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SYDNEY, Feb 11 (Reuters) - Former Australian tennis professional Scott Draper won his first golf tournament on Sunday with victory in the New South Wales PGA Championship.

Draper shot a final round of seven-under-par 65 to finish with a four-round total of 20-under-par 268 and one shot clear of Andrew Bonhomme and Aaron Townsend.

Draper, 32, is among a rare group of sportsmen to succeed in two professional sports.

He won the Wimbledon junior doubles title before taking up tennis professionally in 1993.

He reached a career high of 42 in singles, but retired from tennis in 2005, shortly after winning the Australian Open mixed doubles title, to pursue a new career as a professional golfer.

Draper made a brief return to tennis when he agreed to coach Lleyton Hewitt at last month's Australian Open but turned down the chance of a longer term coaching job to continue with his own golfing career.

=== temporary username === (Mark C), Sunday, 11 February 2007 11:42 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Sybille Bammer just won a tournament! That's got to be worth millions to the ILX tennis punsters association.

(Hingis won one too, but I'm not sure how much hilarity we're ever going to get out of her)

=== temporary username === (Mark C), Sunday, 11 February 2007 12:19 (twelve years ago) Permalink

ten months pass...

This was a good idea that never took off! Thus, revive.

Offseason now, so gossip rubbish instead: Dumped by Hingis, Radek Stepanek is apparently marrying Nicole Vaidisova!


anatol_merklich, Saturday, 22 December 2007 20:45 (eleven years ago) Permalink

i love the fact that one of the 10 ugliest sportsmen i've seen in the past 3 years is so unbelievably fortunate in matters of the heart, gives us all hope innit

Just got offed, Saturday, 22 December 2007 20:47 (eleven years ago) Permalink

I like to think he's a real nice dude, but of course I've no idea.

Microscandal dept: Starace (best tennis name beside Smashnova) & Bracciali are suspended for a short while for betting insignificant amounts on matches not their own.

anatol_merklich, Saturday, 22 December 2007 20:55 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Mardy Fish a strong candidate for best name IMO

Just got offed, Saturday, 22 December 2007 20:58 (eleven years ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

Fed vs Sampras at MSG, 3/10/08

gabbneb, Wednesday, 9 January 2008 06:48 (eleven years ago) Permalink

1st titles of 2008, for reference:

WTA Gold Coast: LI Na d. Victoria AZARENKA 4-6 6-3 6-4
WTA Auckland: Lindsay DAVENPORT d. Aravane REZAÏ 6-2 6-2

ATP Doha: Andy MURRAY d. Stanislas Wawrinka 6-4 4-6 6-2
ATP Adelaide: Michaël LLODRA d. Jarkko NIEMINEN 6-3 6-4
ATP Chennai: Mikhail YOUZHNY d. Rafael NADAL 6-0 6-1

anatol_merklich, Wednesday, 9 January 2008 16:06 (eleven years ago) Permalink

go davenport!!

Surmounter, Wednesday, 9 January 2008 16:42 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Week 2/2008, with all eyes on the AO anyway:

WTA Sydney: Justine HENIN d. Svetlana KUZNETSOVA 4-6 6-2 6-4
WTA Hobart: Eleni DANIILIDOU walk-over vs Vera ZVONAREVA

ATP Sydney: Dmitry TURSUNOV d. Chris GUCCIONE 7-6(3) 7-6(4)
ATP Auckland: Philipp KOHLSCHREIBER d. Juan Carlos FERRERO 7-6(4) 7-5

anatol_merklich, Monday, 14 January 2008 07:40 (eleven years ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

Watching Sharapova vs Obziler in the Israel-Russia Fed Cup tie now, and wow is the crowd noisy! Rapturous cheering on every serve fault by Maria, tauntingly SCREAMING along with her on every shot etc. Umpire totally unable to silence them haha!

anatol_merklich, Saturday, 2 February 2008 12:50 (eleven years ago) Permalink

fuck what channel? we need to sign up for the tennis channle, i can't be missing stuff like this

Surmounter, Sunday, 3 February 2008 02:45 (eleven years ago) Permalink

I just go to and check whether anything is available ("Live Sports" tab -> "Tennis" button). Note: playing stuff may in general entail installing various Chinese tv apps (sopcast, tvants, uusee...). That particular tie, however, is on some Israeli sports station showing through Windows Media Player or I guess any other .wmv-showing app.

anatol_merklich, Sunday, 3 February 2008 10:09 (eleven years ago) Permalink

How useful it is if you're not using Windows I've no idea. Also, quality unsurprisingly varies wildly; this Israeli broadcast is pretty decent.

Pe'er was double-breadsticked by the Shazbot right now, making it 2-1 to Russia. Elsewhere, France vs China will be decided by the doubles.

anatol_merklich, Sunday, 3 February 2008 10:28 (eleven years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

Murray knocks out Federer in the first round of the Dubai tournament.

nice one you unpatriotic little shit.

Upt0eleven, Monday, 3 March 2008 17:15 (eleven years ago) Permalink

he was wearing a saltire cap when he was playing, which doesn't seem desperately unpatriotic to me.

ailsa, Monday, 3 March 2008 22:01 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Federer was too busy not thinking about yesterday

Matt, Monday, 3 March 2008 22:05 (eleven years ago) Permalink

i was only referring to his disinclination to play davis cup.
and i was kidding about that anyway - i care no more about it than he does.

still, 'unpatriotic' was probably a poor choice of word. well done young man!

Upt0eleven, Monday, 3 March 2008 22:35 (eleven years ago) Permalink

It was more the "little shit" that you coupled it with, to be fair.

Anyway, yes, two out of three won against Federer now.

ailsa, Monday, 3 March 2008 22:37 (eleven years ago) Permalink

God knows why he'd want to play the Davis Cup. Who else is going to be on the team? I wouldn't want to be winning matches and carrying a team full of useless people in a tournament that has long since lost its cachet and relevance except in the eyes of really, really old tennis commentators.

edwardo, Monday, 3 March 2008 22:38 (eleven years ago) Permalink

x-post take umbrage wherever you like it was all meant in jest, apart from the congratulatory bit. internet does not do deadpan.

But I genuinely like Murray. I also agree with the above post. I can't be arsed to even watch Davis Cup so I can't blame him if he's rather not play in it.

Upt0eleven, Monday, 3 March 2008 22:45 (eleven years ago) Permalink

five months pass...

Andy Murray wins something

Herman G. Neuname, Sunday, 3 August 2008 21:42 (ten years ago) Permalink

He has won about 4-5 career titles before...but yes, its his biggest win

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 3 August 2008 21:45 (ten years ago) Permalink

this is his third title of 2008 alone. by far the biggest though! wish i could've seen it, sounds like a fantastic match, and it's good to see him encroaching on THE TRIVALRY even if i do like nole more (lol the way fed's playing, nadal/djokovic/murray is the real trivalry).

on the WTA, dinara safina has won two big titles in a row! she is the only woman out there who is stepping up to fill the void at the top. jankovic is going to be world no 1 next week, that is embarrassing. the WTA is probably in the worst shape i've ever witnessed.

lex pretend, Sunday, 3 August 2008 22:08 (ten years ago) Permalink

also i didn't know this thread existed!

lex pretend, Sunday, 3 August 2008 22:09 (ten years ago) Permalink

Oh I know he's won stuff before but not a big tourney. It was a good match. He looks so much fitter and stronger than he was a year or 2 ago.

Herman G. Neuname, Sunday, 3 August 2008 23:53 (ten years ago) Permalink

Nadal will be #1 on 18/8. Can't quite believe Fed's slump post-SW19; loss to Simon, near-loss to Ginepri, loss to Karlovic. Thought he might have at least made a fight of the #1 ranking (his form was fine for 18 of 19 matches in Paris, Halle and London); I had this romantic notion of the baton being passed as Fed beat Nadal at Flushing Meadow (Nadal's points surge taking him past the repeating champ despite the loss). Fed will be lucky to get out of the sixteens in NYC. Does Beijing have any ranking points?

Michael Jones, Monday, 4 August 2008 00:04 (ten years ago) Permalink

yeah, it does. i think a few less than a masters event for the dudes, a few more than a tier ii for the chicas.

GOD that feels ridiculous looking at it! thinking about how much the olympics mean to, like, track&fielders and rowers and the like, and in tennis it's like...a TIER II.

anyway in other news, THIS is the 15-year-old saviour of the WTA who in the past month has taken sets from both serena and sweta, michelle larcher de brito:

she makes sharapova sound like a trappist. seriously i can't believe she hasn't been asked to stop that bullshit yet, or like MURDERED ON COURT by a deafened opponent. that's not a grunt, that's a scream with a sustain pedal on. i'm not sure i'm going to be able to actually watch any of her matches.

oh and in other news silliams has pissed on her phone at the beach:
sometimes you just long for the days before celebrities discovered how to work the internet themselves :(

(also note "enuf boring stuff" LIKE TENNIS)

lex pretend, Tuesday, 5 August 2008 20:19 (ten years ago) Permalink

you know, i used to watch all the nonslams cuz my stepdad taped them. then i didn't speak to him anymore. i wish i knew when they were on -- i think i'm gonna have to get on top of that!

Surmounter, Tuesday, 5 August 2008 20:20 (ten years ago) Permalink

they're on every week! televised or not is another qn

lex pretend, Tuesday, 5 August 2008 20:22 (ten years ago) Permalink

exactly, that's the thing.

Surmounter, Tuesday, 5 August 2008 20:23 (ten years ago) Permalink

ten months pass...

Blake was asked about the partisan crowd before today's final and reminded everyone he's half English :)

BBC giving it "Blake is just happy to be here" bollocks - dude isn't here to make the numbers up. I think I'll be pro-Blake today, as he does things like this

SB "A Good Story" (onimo), Sunday, 14 June 2009 13:17 (nine years ago) Permalink

Well done Andy!

ailsa, Sunday, 14 June 2009 15:02 (nine years ago) Permalink

Bit of a dull game lit up by a few stunning forehands. Shoddy line calls all day, none of which helped Blake. Well done to Murray on being the first Brit in yonks to win Queen's, which I'm sure won't lead to even more Wimbledon hype.

SB "A Good Story" (onimo), Sunday, 14 June 2009 15:08 (nine years ago) Permalink

I predict Murray will cave under the pressure and be out by round 3.

ailsa, Sunday, 14 June 2009 15:09 (nine years ago) Permalink

he doesn't seem to be the sort to cave under pressure. but a friendly first-week draw would certainly be nice...

didn't watch the Queen's, but watched the Edgbaston SFs (Li d. Sharapova and Rybarikova d. Mirza) and a bit of the final today - Magdalena Rybarikova is a real discovery, such a classic grass-court game! Slices and volleys and good serving! she looks weirdly like Samantha Morton, too. i remember seeing a photo of her from her junior days when she lost some random final - she was posing w/the trophy and seriously looked like she was about to go bowling for columbine. so it was lucky for Edgbaston that she won today!

Haas beat Djokovic in the Halle final this week too.

lex pretend, Sunday, 14 June 2009 15:25 (nine years ago) Permalink

in other news, larcher de screamo gets a wildcard to wimbledon. FUN.

Roz, Sunday, 14 June 2009 15:56 (nine years ago) Permalink

The weird transatlantification of Murray's pan loaf accent has meant I can't actually hear what he's saying - it's just a series of droning noises that makes my ears stop working.

SB "A Good Story" (onimo), Sunday, 14 June 2009 16:04 (nine years ago) Permalink

pan loaf accent

is that how you talk with your mouth full of bread?

Beth Parker, Sunday, 14 June 2009 16:17 (nine years ago) Permalink

It was once more expensive and regarded as more fashionable than the then more common plain loaf. Hence, to speak with a pan loafy voice is to speak in a posh or affected manner.

SB "A Good Story" (onimo), Sunday, 14 June 2009 16:19 (nine years ago) Permalink

How on earth does Murray speak with an affected accent?! He just mumbles.

I found that picture of Rybarikova looking like she's ready to go bowling for Columbine after losing the Wimbledon juniors final!

Fortunately today was more to her liking.

lex pretend, Sunday, 14 June 2009 16:41 (nine years ago) Permalink

Haas beat Djokovic in the Halle final this week too.

!!! interesting result for sure. fed dropped out?

Lamp, Sunday, 14 June 2009 17:22 (nine years ago) Permalink

yeah...Djokovic was lucky to be in the final at all, he had to come back from 5-7, 2-5 down and save 5 match points against Florent Serra (!) in the 2nd round.

lex pretend, Sunday, 14 June 2009 17:26 (nine years ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...


French tennis player banned for betting found dead

Natural causes apparently.

RIP Mathieu

anatol_merklich, Wednesday, 8 July 2009 15:55 (nine years ago) Permalink

Fuckin' hell. (Though my initial shock was because I thought you meant Paul-Henri Mathieu...)

Michael Jones, Wednesday, 8 July 2009 16:00 (nine years ago) Permalink

Oh right, sorry! To avoid confusion to others: it's Mathieu Montcourt.

anatol_merklich, Wednesday, 8 July 2009 16:08 (nine years ago) Permalink

The Lex's favourite choker, Richard Gasquet avoids getting suspended after testing positive for coke.

The full findings are here (pdf): pretty lol-worthy just for the kissing descriptions and finding out that he was allegedly "contaminated" at a Bob Sinclar event.

Roz, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 20:32 (nine years ago) Permalink

hingis should've found a french waiter of her own to blame. or maybe just one of the 9494439 atp players she'd slept with.

lex pretend, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 20:42 (nine years ago) Permalink

her ban ends in january right? think she'll come back?

Roz, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 21:03 (nine years ago) Permalink

four weeks pass...

wtf federer?! 5-2 up in the final set, somehow fails to serve it out twice and then DFs on match point in the tie-break to give Tsonga the win.

all credit to Jo-W for stepping it up right at the end, but still... that was some breakdown.

Roz, Friday, 14 August 2009 21:25 (nine years ago) Permalink

& playing doubles w novak for laver cup

johnny crunch, Saturday, 22 September 2018 00:44 (six months ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...

djoko 2 & 1 over sascha in an hour

fed loses to borna in straights, borna played/served great he didnt even face a break pt

johnny crunch, Saturday, 13 October 2018 14:04 (five months ago) Permalink

Novak pretty unstoppable at this point. No one has risen from outside the top 20 to be year-end #1 before, and he's going to do it inside 5 months.

Fed clearly a notch below his 2017 level in all respects. Age, finally. Back in March, right up to the point he held MP vs Del Potro in Indian Wells, he seemed a shoo-in for year-end #1, given Nadal's injury, Novak's form. I thought Thiem or Zverev might be the challengers by summer. It's out of his hands now, even if wins 15 straight matches through to the end of the year (Basel/Paris/London) - that's 8160pts and Rafa/Novak pass that with decent runs anywhere. Of course, I've devised a scenario where he manages this ;) Gonna be so disappointed when Novak enters Vienna on a whim* and wins it, ruining my plans.

(* - maybe he's in the draw for this or Basel, hadn't checked; assumed he was skipping the 250s/500s ahead of Paris).

Next year, it's all about Thiem (clay) and Tsitsipas (everything else). I hope.

Michael Jones, Tuesday, 16 October 2018 11:36 (five months ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...

some fun points munar v de minaur @ nxt gen milan

johnny crunch, Friday, 9 November 2018 19:49 (four months ago) Permalink

super compelling 3rd set fed cup, siniakova gets by sophie kenin ~ sini had multiple break pts up 4-1, could not convert, ended up down two match pts @ 4-5 & came back to seal the cup 7-5... was p hi level competitive

johnny crunch, Sunday, 11 November 2018 14:56 (four months ago) Permalink

If my maths are correct, Fed only has to win five games off Anderson tonight to make the semis. Kinda ridiculous...

Michael Jones, Thursday, 15 November 2018 15:53 (four months ago) Permalink

I'm not entirely sure if h2h results take precedence if it's only a two-way tie, mind. Fed would want to avoid Novak in the semis, I imagine; I'm not sure whether *any* win enables him to top the group, or if he has to beat KA something like 6-2 6-3 to swing the %-age games in his favour.

This event can be such a let-down at times. Are we going to have a nice little round of applause at 5-5 tonight when they both go through?

Michael Jones, Thursday, 15 November 2018 15:59 (four months ago) Permalink

(h2h does take precedence it's a two-way tie, I now read)

So... what if KA pulls out with an injury and Coric beats Fed 6-1 6-2 tonight? I'm just trying to spice it up.

Michael Jones, Thursday, 15 November 2018 16:13 (four months ago) Permalink

one of the reasons i don't watch tennis as much as i ought to is the fans

i think tennis fans might be the worst sports fans in the world

i wish them so much ill

imago, Saturday, 17 November 2018 19:41 (four months ago) Permalink

one month passes...

fed/serena will play in a mixed dbles match @ hopman cup

johnny crunch, Monday, 31 December 2018 04:19 (two months ago) Permalink

the post match on court interview w the two of them was really nice

johnny crunch, Tuesday, 1 January 2019 22:00 (two months ago) Permalink

epic giles simon/millman match @ sydney rn

johnny crunch, Thursday, 10 January 2019 14:30 (two months ago) Permalink

one month passes...

Opelka-Isner in NY semi had the inevitable scoreline and, delving into the stats, was exactly what you'd expect but more so. 80+ aces between them and Opelka surviving 6 MPs in a 16-14 t/b. More interesting than that, Brayden Schnur is Opelka's opponent in the final. 23yo Canadian, world #154, never won a Tour-level match before this week, never made it into a Slam main draw, won a few ITF Future titles back in 2016-17, has only reached one Challenger-level final. He'll be approx #108 if he loses the final and #92 if he wins, which hardly seems enough of a leap! At least he's straight into Delray Beach ATP250 next week as a special exemption.

Michael Jones, Sunday, 17 February 2019 11:43 (one month ago) Permalink

schnur has looked good. stevie johnson had him dead to rights a few rounds back but choked p hard, credit to schnur for hanging in there

johnny crunch, Sunday, 17 February 2019 20:13 (one month ago) Permalink

tiafoe still wildly volatile coming off his qtr final aussie open run, was bounced in ny open 1st match by jason jung, now is abt to lose defending his 2018 delray beach title 1st match to dan evans

johnny crunch, Wednesday, 20 February 2019 01:23 (one month ago) Permalink

in good form w his racket smash tho, to be fair

johnny crunch, Wednesday, 20 February 2019 01:27 (one month ago) Permalink

lots of other big upsets today osaka out to kiki mladenovic in dubai, thiem out to djere and fognini out to FAA in rio

johnny crunch, Wednesday, 20 February 2019 01:53 (one month ago) Permalink

I'm stunned that Naomi Osaka fired her coach. I don't have a good feel yet for her maturity and temperament, but I hope this decision wasn't rash.

calumy (rip van wanko), Wednesday, 20 February 2019 02:34 (one month ago) Permalink

Del Potro's back in action! Beat Nishioka in two sets at Delray Beach

willem, Wednesday, 20 February 2019 10:48 (one month ago) Permalink

he looked good, nishioka put up a solid fight

johnny crunch, Wednesday, 20 February 2019 12:45 (one month ago) Permalink

fed confirms hes playing clay btw, madrid open entry

johnny crunch, Wednesday, 20 February 2019 13:00 (one month ago) Permalink

Hmm, interesting. I sort of figured that Fed would play clay again but only in a farewell tour kind of way.

Michael Jones, Wednesday, 20 February 2019 14:08 (one month ago) Permalink

wow bencic/sabalenka was just a fucking battle; belinda saved 6 match pts and won the match on her 1st mp chance

johnny crunch, Wednesday, 20 February 2019 19:39 (one month ago) Permalink

delpo sees two break chances vs opelka, converts both & cruises in straights, abt what youd expect~

johnny crunch, Friday, 22 February 2019 03:01 (one month ago) Permalink

lol mackie macdonald beats delpo, spikes his racquet in celebration

johnny crunch, Saturday, 23 February 2019 03:58 (one month ago) Permalink

& the racquet nearly rebounds off the ct to hit him in the face

johnny crunch, Saturday, 23 February 2019 03:59 (one month ago) Permalink

just a stellar monf/tsitsy match wow

johnny crunch, Friday, 1 March 2019 16:14 (three weeks ago) Permalink

fed 100 titles btw

johnny crunch, Saturday, 2 March 2019 19:45 (three weeks ago) Permalink


From Milan 2001 to Dubai 2019...

All 100 of @rogerfederer's titles!#RF100

— Tennis TV (@TennisTV) March 2, 2019


johnny crunch, Saturday, 2 March 2019 21:59 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Kyrgios working miracles this week - not sure how many BPs he saved across those matches but he squeaked home all the same. Back up to 30-31ish in the ranking. Think Fed is top 4 again.

Michael Jones, Sunday, 3 March 2019 10:55 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Bit odd to see Kyle Edmund drop down to the Challenger Tour last week (Indian Wells) - I guess he's short of matchplay post-injury, but still ranked fully 50 places higher than the next best guy in the draw, and not surprisingly won the title. You'd think there'd be an upper limit on these things. And now he gets to stay in Indian Wells for the Masters 1000 event.

Michael Jones, Monday, 4 March 2019 12:09 (two weeks ago) Permalink

vika/serena are playing some long ass rallies/games

johnny crunch, Saturday, 9 March 2019 02:48 (two weeks ago) Permalink

9 games played, 6 breaks~

johnny crunch, Saturday, 9 March 2019 03:06 (two weeks ago) Permalink

shapo beats cilic to advance to 4th rd of indian wells, spits 16 bars to celebrate

johnny crunch, Tuesday, 12 March 2019 21:15 (one week ago) Permalink

wow bianca andreescu first set 6-0 over mugu in teh qtrfinals

johnny crunch, Wednesday, 13 March 2019 20:32 (one week ago) Permalink

mugu won (1) total game, 24 points in the match

johnny crunch, Wednesday, 13 March 2019 21:05 (one week ago) Permalink


GDPR vs GAPDY (DJP), Wednesday, 13 March 2019 21:31 (one week ago) Permalink

fed looks great + is trucking kyle edmund

johnny crunch, Wednesday, 13 March 2019 21:40 (one week ago) Permalink

Khachanov through to meet Nadal in the quarters. We were denied the prospect of Kyrgios extending his 100% record vs Novak, and hence a NickK vs GaelM QF - Kohlsc is spoiling all our fun.

Meanwhile, Auger-Al is the *real* real deal, right? The gen who got to be next because the NextGen weren't actually up to it.

Michael Jones, Wednesday, 13 March 2019 22:50 (one week ago) Permalink

yea FAA will get a title this yr, i bet; assuming nothing detrimental has or will come from the heart condition issue that forced him to w/draw vs shapo last us open

hurkacz is another next genner breaking thru, faces fed in the qtrs

johnny crunch, Wednesday, 13 March 2019 23:03 (one week ago) Permalink

Khach/Nadal had that great us open match last yr too ~ I see rafa and fed both advancing though for the dream semi

johnny crunch, Wednesday, 13 March 2019 23:06 (one week ago) Permalink

svitolina just beating vondorousova was amazing

johnny crunch, Thursday, 14 March 2019 03:20 (one week ago) Permalink

oof monfils now w/draws due to injury - top semis is milos/thiem

johnny crunch, Friday, 15 March 2019 02:13 (one week ago) Permalink

get sampras out there to hit w someone to entertain the crowd

johnny crunch, Friday, 15 March 2019 02:14 (one week ago) Permalink

fucking hell, bianca andreescu....outgrits svitolina which is really saying something

johnny crunch, Saturday, 16 March 2019 03:53 (one week ago) Permalink

outstanding win by thiem

johnny crunch, Monday, 18 March 2019 01:16 (six days ago) Permalink

I had to shut down the stream at midnight and get some sleep - at that point Fed was 6-3 1-2, and Thiem kept kicking his serve to the BH with no great effect. Fully expected to wake to a straight sets win though.

Wish Amazon was showing the WTA portion of these combined events. Have seen none of Andreescu’s amazing run.

Michael Jones, Monday, 18 March 2019 08:00 (six days ago) Permalink

I didn't see much of Andreescu but what I did see made her one of my favorite players on the tour right now

GDPR vs GAPDY (DJP), Monday, 18 March 2019 13:27 (six days ago) Permalink

she came back and won tday miami rd one, was down a set and 1-5

johnny crunch, Friday, 22 March 2019 04:52 (two days ago) Permalink

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