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SYDNEY, Feb 11 (Reuters) - Former Australian tennis professional Scott Draper won his first golf tournament on Sunday with victory in the New South Wales PGA Championship.

Draper shot a final round of seven-under-par 65 to finish with a four-round total of 20-under-par 268 and one shot clear of Andrew Bonhomme and Aaron Townsend.

Draper, 32, is among a rare group of sportsmen to succeed in two professional sports.

He won the Wimbledon junior doubles title before taking up tennis professionally in 1993.

He reached a career high of 42 in singles, but retired from tennis in 2005, shortly after winning the Australian Open mixed doubles title, to pursue a new career as a professional golfer.

Draper made a brief return to tennis when he agreed to coach Lleyton Hewitt at last month's Australian Open but turned down the chance of a longer term coaching job to continue with his own golfing career.

=== temporary username === (Mark C), Sunday, 11 February 2007 11:42 (twelve years ago) link

Sybille Bammer just won a tournament! That's got to be worth millions to the ILX tennis punsters association.

(Hingis won one too, but I'm not sure how much hilarity we're ever going to get out of her)

=== temporary username === (Mark C), Sunday, 11 February 2007 12:19 (twelve years ago) link

ten months pass...

This was a good idea that never took off! Thus, revive.

Offseason now, so gossip rubbish instead: Dumped by Hingis, Radek Stepanek is apparently marrying Nicole Vaidisova!


anatol_merklich, Saturday, 22 December 2007 20:45 (eleven years ago) link

i love the fact that one of the 10 ugliest sportsmen i've seen in the past 3 years is so unbelievably fortunate in matters of the heart, gives us all hope innit

Just got offed, Saturday, 22 December 2007 20:47 (eleven years ago) link

I like to think he's a real nice dude, but of course I've no idea.

Microscandal dept: Starace (best tennis name beside Smashnova) & Bracciali are suspended for a short while for betting insignificant amounts on matches not their own.

anatol_merklich, Saturday, 22 December 2007 20:55 (eleven years ago) link

Mardy Fish a strong candidate for best name IMO

Just got offed, Saturday, 22 December 2007 20:58 (eleven years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Fed vs Sampras at MSG, 3/10/08

gabbneb, Wednesday, 9 January 2008 06:48 (eleven years ago) link

1st titles of 2008, for reference:

WTA Gold Coast: LI Na d. Victoria AZARENKA 4-6 6-3 6-4
WTA Auckland: Lindsay DAVENPORT d. Aravane REZAÏ 6-2 6-2

ATP Doha: Andy MURRAY d. Stanislas Wawrinka 6-4 4-6 6-2
ATP Adelaide: Michaël LLODRA d. Jarkko NIEMINEN 6-3 6-4
ATP Chennai: Mikhail YOUZHNY d. Rafael NADAL 6-0 6-1

anatol_merklich, Wednesday, 9 January 2008 16:06 (eleven years ago) link

go davenport!!

Surmounter, Wednesday, 9 January 2008 16:42 (eleven years ago) link

Week 2/2008, with all eyes on the AO anyway:

WTA Sydney: Justine HENIN d. Svetlana KUZNETSOVA 4-6 6-2 6-4
WTA Hobart: Eleni DANIILIDOU walk-over vs Vera ZVONAREVA

ATP Sydney: Dmitry TURSUNOV d. Chris GUCCIONE 7-6(3) 7-6(4)
ATP Auckland: Philipp KOHLSCHREIBER d. Juan Carlos FERRERO 7-6(4) 7-5

anatol_merklich, Monday, 14 January 2008 07:40 (eleven years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Watching Sharapova vs Obziler in the Israel-Russia Fed Cup tie now, and wow is the crowd noisy! Rapturous cheering on every serve fault by Maria, tauntingly SCREAMING along with her on every shot etc. Umpire totally unable to silence them haha!

anatol_merklich, Saturday, 2 February 2008 12:50 (eleven years ago) link

fuck what channel? we need to sign up for the tennis channle, i can't be missing stuff like this

Surmounter, Sunday, 3 February 2008 02:45 (eleven years ago) link

I just go to and check whether anything is available ("Live Sports" tab -> "Tennis" button). Note: playing stuff may in general entail installing various Chinese tv apps (sopcast, tvants, uusee...). That particular tie, however, is on some Israeli sports station showing through Windows Media Player or I guess any other .wmv-showing app.

anatol_merklich, Sunday, 3 February 2008 10:09 (eleven years ago) link

How useful it is if you're not using Windows I've no idea. Also, quality unsurprisingly varies wildly; this Israeli broadcast is pretty decent.

Pe'er was double-breadsticked by the Shazbot right now, making it 2-1 to Russia. Elsewhere, France vs China will be decided by the doubles.

anatol_merklich, Sunday, 3 February 2008 10:28 (eleven years ago) link

one month passes...

Murray knocks out Federer in the first round of the Dubai tournament.

nice one you unpatriotic little shit.

Upt0eleven, Monday, 3 March 2008 17:15 (eleven years ago) link

he was wearing a saltire cap when he was playing, which doesn't seem desperately unpatriotic to me.

ailsa, Monday, 3 March 2008 22:01 (eleven years ago) link

Federer was too busy not thinking about yesterday

Matt, Monday, 3 March 2008 22:05 (eleven years ago) link

i was only referring to his disinclination to play davis cup.
and i was kidding about that anyway - i care no more about it than he does.

still, 'unpatriotic' was probably a poor choice of word. well done young man!

Upt0eleven, Monday, 3 March 2008 22:35 (eleven years ago) link

It was more the "little shit" that you coupled it with, to be fair.

Anyway, yes, two out of three won against Federer now.

ailsa, Monday, 3 March 2008 22:37 (eleven years ago) link

God knows why he'd want to play the Davis Cup. Who else is going to be on the team? I wouldn't want to be winning matches and carrying a team full of useless people in a tournament that has long since lost its cachet and relevance except in the eyes of really, really old tennis commentators.

edwardo, Monday, 3 March 2008 22:38 (eleven years ago) link

x-post take umbrage wherever you like it was all meant in jest, apart from the congratulatory bit. internet does not do deadpan.

But I genuinely like Murray. I also agree with the above post. I can't be arsed to even watch Davis Cup so I can't blame him if he's rather not play in it.

Upt0eleven, Monday, 3 March 2008 22:45 (eleven years ago) link

five months pass...

Andy Murray wins something

Herman G. Neuname, Sunday, 3 August 2008 21:42 (ten years ago) link

He has won about 4-5 career titles before...but yes, its his biggest win

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 3 August 2008 21:45 (ten years ago) link

this is his third title of 2008 alone. by far the biggest though! wish i could've seen it, sounds like a fantastic match, and it's good to see him encroaching on THE TRIVALRY even if i do like nole more (lol the way fed's playing, nadal/djokovic/murray is the real trivalry).

on the WTA, dinara safina has won two big titles in a row! she is the only woman out there who is stepping up to fill the void at the top. jankovic is going to be world no 1 next week, that is embarrassing. the WTA is probably in the worst shape i've ever witnessed.

lex pretend, Sunday, 3 August 2008 22:08 (ten years ago) link

also i didn't know this thread existed!

lex pretend, Sunday, 3 August 2008 22:09 (ten years ago) link

Oh I know he's won stuff before but not a big tourney. It was a good match. He looks so much fitter and stronger than he was a year or 2 ago.

Herman G. Neuname, Sunday, 3 August 2008 23:53 (ten years ago) link

Nadal will be #1 on 18/8. Can't quite believe Fed's slump post-SW19; loss to Simon, near-loss to Ginepri, loss to Karlovic. Thought he might have at least made a fight of the #1 ranking (his form was fine for 18 of 19 matches in Paris, Halle and London); I had this romantic notion of the baton being passed as Fed beat Nadal at Flushing Meadow (Nadal's points surge taking him past the repeating champ despite the loss). Fed will be lucky to get out of the sixteens in NYC. Does Beijing have any ranking points?

Michael Jones, Monday, 4 August 2008 00:04 (ten years ago) link

yeah, it does. i think a few less than a masters event for the dudes, a few more than a tier ii for the chicas.

GOD that feels ridiculous looking at it! thinking about how much the olympics mean to, like, track&fielders and rowers and the like, and in tennis it's like...a TIER II.

anyway in other news, THIS is the 15-year-old saviour of the WTA who in the past month has taken sets from both serena and sweta, michelle larcher de brito:

she makes sharapova sound like a trappist. seriously i can't believe she hasn't been asked to stop that bullshit yet, or like MURDERED ON COURT by a deafened opponent. that's not a grunt, that's a scream with a sustain pedal on. i'm not sure i'm going to be able to actually watch any of her matches.

oh and in other news silliams has pissed on her phone at the beach:
sometimes you just long for the days before celebrities discovered how to work the internet themselves :(

(also note "enuf boring stuff" LIKE TENNIS)

lex pretend, Tuesday, 5 August 2008 20:19 (ten years ago) link

you know, i used to watch all the nonslams cuz my stepdad taped them. then i didn't speak to him anymore. i wish i knew when they were on -- i think i'm gonna have to get on top of that!

Surmounter, Tuesday, 5 August 2008 20:20 (ten years ago) link

they're on every week! televised or not is another qn

lex pretend, Tuesday, 5 August 2008 20:22 (ten years ago) link

exactly, that's the thing.

Surmounter, Tuesday, 5 August 2008 20:23 (ten years ago) link

ten months pass...

Blake was asked about the partisan crowd before today's final and reminded everyone he's half English :)

BBC giving it "Blake is just happy to be here" bollocks - dude isn't here to make the numbers up. I think I'll be pro-Blake today, as he does things like this

SB "A Good Story" (onimo), Sunday, 14 June 2009 13:17 (ten years ago) link

Well done Andy!

ailsa, Sunday, 14 June 2009 15:02 (ten years ago) link

Bit of a dull game lit up by a few stunning forehands. Shoddy line calls all day, none of which helped Blake. Well done to Murray on being the first Brit in yonks to win Queen's, which I'm sure won't lead to even more Wimbledon hype.

SB "A Good Story" (onimo), Sunday, 14 June 2009 15:08 (ten years ago) link

I predict Murray will cave under the pressure and be out by round 3.

ailsa, Sunday, 14 June 2009 15:09 (ten years ago) link

he doesn't seem to be the sort to cave under pressure. but a friendly first-week draw would certainly be nice...

didn't watch the Queen's, but watched the Edgbaston SFs (Li d. Sharapova and Rybarikova d. Mirza) and a bit of the final today - Magdalena Rybarikova is a real discovery, such a classic grass-court game! Slices and volleys and good serving! she looks weirdly like Samantha Morton, too. i remember seeing a photo of her from her junior days when she lost some random final - she was posing w/the trophy and seriously looked like she was about to go bowling for columbine. so it was lucky for Edgbaston that she won today!

Haas beat Djokovic in the Halle final this week too.

lex pretend, Sunday, 14 June 2009 15:25 (ten years ago) link

in other news, larcher de screamo gets a wildcard to wimbledon. FUN.

Roz, Sunday, 14 June 2009 15:56 (ten years ago) link

The weird transatlantification of Murray's pan loaf accent has meant I can't actually hear what he's saying - it's just a series of droning noises that makes my ears stop working.

SB "A Good Story" (onimo), Sunday, 14 June 2009 16:04 (ten years ago) link

pan loaf accent

is that how you talk with your mouth full of bread?

Beth Parker, Sunday, 14 June 2009 16:17 (ten years ago) link

It was once more expensive and regarded as more fashionable than the then more common plain loaf. Hence, to speak with a pan loafy voice is to speak in a posh or affected manner.

SB "A Good Story" (onimo), Sunday, 14 June 2009 16:19 (ten years ago) link

How on earth does Murray speak with an affected accent?! He just mumbles.

I found that picture of Rybarikova looking like she's ready to go bowling for Columbine after losing the Wimbledon juniors final!

Fortunately today was more to her liking.

lex pretend, Sunday, 14 June 2009 16:41 (ten years ago) link

Haas beat Djokovic in the Halle final this week too.

!!! interesting result for sure. fed dropped out?

Lamp, Sunday, 14 June 2009 17:22 (ten years ago) link

yeah...Djokovic was lucky to be in the final at all, he had to come back from 5-7, 2-5 down and save 5 match points against Florent Serra (!) in the 2nd round.

lex pretend, Sunday, 14 June 2009 17:26 (ten years ago) link

three weeks pass...


French tennis player banned for betting found dead

Natural causes apparently.

RIP Mathieu

anatol_merklich, Wednesday, 8 July 2009 15:55 (ten years ago) link

Fuckin' hell. (Though my initial shock was because I thought you meant Paul-Henri Mathieu...)

Michael Jones, Wednesday, 8 July 2009 16:00 (ten years ago) link

Oh right, sorry! To avoid confusion to others: it's Mathieu Montcourt.

anatol_merklich, Wednesday, 8 July 2009 16:08 (ten years ago) link

The Lex's favourite choker, Richard Gasquet avoids getting suspended after testing positive for coke.

The full findings are here (pdf): pretty lol-worthy just for the kissing descriptions and finding out that he was allegedly "contaminated" at a Bob Sinclar event.

Roz, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 20:32 (ten years ago) link

hingis should've found a french waiter of her own to blame. or maybe just one of the 9494439 atp players she'd slept with.

lex pretend, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 20:42 (ten years ago) link

her ban ends in january right? think she'll come back?

Roz, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 21:03 (ten years ago) link

four weeks pass...

wtf federer?! 5-2 up in the final set, somehow fails to serve it out twice and then DFs on match point in the tie-break to give Tsonga the win.

all credit to Jo-W for stepping it up right at the end, but still... that was some breakdown.

Roz, Friday, 14 August 2009 21:25 (nine years ago) link

very satisfying to see fed take the first set 6-1. too bad isner got hobbled in the second, but i can't help but feel federer would've found a way to pull it out anyway. i can barely stand to watch a match of isner's. all that lumbering around. it's bullshit. my distaste for him is legendary around my living room. ask the cats.

andrew m., Monday, 1 April 2019 14:59 (three months ago) link

two weeks pass...

Novak-Kohlscr just had eight consecutive breaks of serve. And Novak saved 3BPs in the next game.

Novak now up a break in the decider but that, as we have established, means nothing. (Every game held to love from this point, I'm guessing).

Michael Jones, Tuesday, 16 April 2019 15:28 (three months ago) link

novak drop shotting the hell out of meds (to varying effect) ~ looks destined to go 3

johnny crunch, Friday, 19 April 2019 12:40 (two months ago) link

jeez pella has broken rafa 1st 3 service games, up 4-1

johnny crunch, Friday, 19 April 2019 14:32 (two months ago) link

Tuned into Amazon Prime in time to see Pella fall apart.

Michael Jones, Friday, 19 April 2019 15:46 (two months ago) link

fognini/lojovic final!

johnny crunch, Saturday, 20 April 2019 17:45 (two months ago) link

Rafael Nadal calls loss to Fognini ‘one of my worst matches on clay in 14 years’

johnny crunch, Saturday, 20 April 2019 22:06 (two months ago) link

I saw only the very end of this - in fact, I got home at 6-4 5-0 30/0 and Fabio was so tight for 10min that I thought I was going to see another Rafa comeback. Extraordinary that FF saved five break points to avoid going down 4-6 1-5 vs Rublev in r1. He was getting pasted by Coric for 45min yesterday too.

A clay Masters final without the top two. Let's have a couple more.

Michael Jones, Saturday, 20 April 2019 22:59 (two months ago) link

Fognini is hilarious to watch. Even when he’s dialed in and playing amazingly, like today, he gives off this aura that makes me think he would really just rather be at the bar.

GDPR vs GAPDY (DJP), Saturday, 20 April 2019 23:28 (two months ago) link

farewell ferrer

johnny crunch, Friday, 26 April 2019 01:08 (two months ago) link

michael jones, u would like this book prob,204,203,200_.jpg

johnny crunch, Friday, 26 April 2019 13:47 (two months ago) link

good match in estoril, tsitsy grinds thru the local joao domingues who played p well

johnny crunch, Friday, 3 May 2019 14:05 (two months ago) link

Is anyone else low-key enjoying the Zverev implosion?

GDPR vs GAPDY (DJP), Friday, 3 May 2019 19:13 (two months ago) link

Bought that Circuit book on Kindle; a fair enough run-through of a year I suppose, but I felt the writing jarred at many points. I sensed a discrepancy between ambition and performance. Now, in some blurbs after the end of the actual book, it turns out the guy is apparently a published poet in his (I presume?) native English, which made me question my own (non-native-English) judgment a bit, but... nah, unless you are some hitherto unknown contortionist, I do not believe you can lie prone on your back, even if your leg is hurt badly. And if you can, I do not believe a professional tennis player soon does it after you, right there on court. It would have made some news.

(That was just one jarring example; I flinched or goggled at a few other vocabulary choices as well, but maybe they could be taken as poetic licence or something, I dunno)

anatol_merklich, Sunday, 5 May 2019 23:35 (two months ago) link

interesting idk i read it & enjoyed.. did not notice that specifically, i felt he did try to add sorta unnecessarily florid language @ times but it usu did not bother me

johnny crunch, Monday, 6 May 2019 12:32 (two months ago) link

Yeah, the florid language thing probably added to my feeling that attempted style clashed a bit with ability.

And I didn't mean to be too harsh either -- I agree that it is a fine enough first essay into a niche which could have some real potential; there are plenty of sports books on single seasons seen either as a whole or from a particular team's viewpoint in e.g. soccer or baseball, and I see no reason there couldn't be a tennis literature of this sort as well. There were several things I enjoyed and found insightful, such as his stuff on Goffin and the particular unglamourous insiderness of the post-US-Open indoor swing.

anatol_merklich, Monday, 6 May 2019 13:01 (two months ago) link

(But you simply cannot lie prone on your back. The word the author was looking for is supine. :-P )

anatol_merklich, Monday, 6 May 2019 13:03 (two months ago) link

juicy madrid quarters:


johnny crunch, Thursday, 9 May 2019 20:14 (two months ago) link

have some dignity stan

mookieproof, Saturday, 11 May 2019 03:17 (two months ago) link

no shame when its vs rafa

johnny crunch, Saturday, 11 May 2019 03:50 (two months ago) link

It seems like Fed loses a lot of matches from MP up in the twilight of his career. Pretty good battle though and Thiem is a master of clubbing his way out of trouble. Hopefully he can win this.

Michael Jones, Saturday, 11 May 2019 09:06 (two months ago) link

yea thiem is confident in his serve & groundstokes at all times basically, i dont fault fed too much for squandering those match pts

johnny crunch, Saturday, 11 May 2019 14:04 (two months ago) link

And... Thiem just comes up short vs Novak. Up a break in both sets, ultimately a DF in the second set t/b did for him. Oh well, go win the French.

Michael Jones, Saturday, 11 May 2019 18:37 (two months ago) link

Genuinely great performance from Tsitsipas. The slices! He’s my guy for the next decade I reckon.

Michael Jones, Saturday, 11 May 2019 22:02 (two months ago) link

quite a day in rome

johnny crunch, Thursday, 16 May 2019 11:40 (two months ago) link

Yep. Wednesday washed out = Thursday So. Much. Tennis. Amusingly, the first six WTA matches of the day all went the distance too, pushing the schedule ever later. Not sure of the circs surrounding Serena's withdrawal - meant that Venus was the only person to progress yesterday (after 3hr+ vs Mertens on Tuesday). And now she gets to rest ahead of Konta match in mid-afternoon L16, who just played 2hr30 vs Stephens this morning.

Nadal seems to be peaking at the right time? Even in defeat, performance vs Tsitispas (Madrid) > vs Thiem (Barce) >>> vs Fognini (MC), and he's just allowed Chardy a single game here.

Michael Jones, Thursday, 16 May 2019 12:30 (two months ago) link

And... Nick K chucks a chair and gets DQ'd. He *started* his first round match with an underarm serve.

Michael Jones, Thursday, 16 May 2019 15:40 (two months ago) link

prob was too much overlap but it wouldve been amazing to see in person in one day each or fed rafa and novak play twice

johnny crunch, Thursday, 16 May 2019 18:15 (two months ago) link

kyrgios wow, that podcast was p hilarious that all he truly wants to do in life is get iced coffees shoot hoops and hang out ~ ok bro

johnny crunch, Thursday, 16 May 2019 18:18 (two months ago) link

nadal wins two matches and drops two total games o_O

johnny crunch, Thursday, 16 May 2019 18:44 (two months ago) link

Horrific shank wide from Delpo on double MP vs Djoko, after he'd been nailing FHs all night. I don't think I can bear to watch the 3rd set.

Michael Jones, Friday, 17 May 2019 22:21 (two months ago) link

excellent match, both have missed tons of massive opportunities

johnny crunch, Friday, 17 May 2019 22:40 (two months ago) link

love how now both are playing to the crowd~

johnny crunch, Friday, 17 May 2019 22:44 (two months ago) link

Obv I continued to keep an eye on it. Absurd drop half-volley from Delpo to save BP, but ultimately to no avail.

Michael Jones, Friday, 17 May 2019 23:07 (two months ago) link

three weeks pass...

Nice to see Dustin Brown having success on the grass in Stuttgart - plays Zverev next!

DB's win over Millman today was his first at ATP Tour main-draw level since 2017 US Open; he's been plugging away on the Challenger tour. He even won a title on clay at Sophia Antipolis in France in April to get himself back in the top 200. He got 9000 euro for that. Less than a fifth of what he'll get if he get into the main draw at Wimbledon.

Michael Jones, Tuesday, 11 June 2019 15:26 (one month ago) link

And Dustin wins! 6-4 6-7 6-3. With the help of... FOURTEEN double faults from Zverev.

Michael Jones, Thursday, 13 June 2019 15:41 (one month ago) link

I really shouldn't be enjoying Zverev's slow implosion this much

brigadier pudding (DJP), Thursday, 13 June 2019 17:59 (one month ago) link

I bet he wins Wimbledon now. Weird thing is, his first-serve percentage was pretty good: 69%. He only had to hit 32 second serves in the match. He missed the box with almost half of them.

Michael Jones, Thursday, 13 June 2019 20:51 (one month ago) link

dreddy vs faa is a wildly entertaining matchup, 3rd set rn

johnny crunch, Friday, 14 June 2019 14:52 (one month ago) link

felix comes back from a break down in the 3rd to take it in a tiebreak; similarly coric did the same thing in den bosch earlier tday

johnny crunch, Friday, 14 June 2019 15:42 (one month ago) link

Heading to Wimbledon for the first time this year, first two days, hoping for ground passes. Would we be likely to get those arriving at, say, 6 in the morning?

abcfsk, Tuesday, 18 June 2019 19:50 (one month ago) link

haven't been for ten years but back then yeah you'd be fine don't think it has changed too much in the meantime but could be wrong

oscar bravo, Tuesday, 18 June 2019 19:56 (one month ago) link

Was thinking of taking a day off next week for Roehampton qualies (used to be you could just rock up and walk in - now it's £10 tickets online + photo ID at the gate) but the forecast is not great. If I could be *sure* the weather was terrible Tue-Thu, I'd go the Friday and there'd be a glut of matches left (I did this in 2016). But... the event is supposed to be over by Thu, and so there are no tickets for Fri. Meh.

Michael Jones, Wednesday, 19 June 2019 12:27 (four weeks ago) link

xp thanks, hopefully

abcfsk, Wednesday, 19 June 2019 13:51 (four weeks ago) link

feli is having a week @ queens club, upstaging andy

4:07pm: starts singles SF

6:23pm: wins singles SF

6:44pm: resumes doubles QF

6:57pm: wins doubles QF

7:08pm: starts doubles SF

8:51pm: wins doubles SF

johnny crunch, Saturday, 22 June 2019 20:23 (three weeks ago) link

Simon was terrific earlier - Medvedev couldn't break him down. Painted the line on 49th stroke of rally to save bp early in 3rd, and went on from there.

Maybe I'd never noticed before, but FAA has same b'day as Fed. 19 years younger. FAA, RF, Laver and Sampras all have their birthdays within four days of each other August. I'm one day outside of that group, hence my lousy overheads.

Michael Jones, Saturday, 22 June 2019 22:33 (three weeks ago) link

xpost I just really love how Feli Lopez has carved out a career as a grass court specialist in a world where all other Spanish male players prefer clay. up a set in the final against Simon rn.

Roz, Sunday, 23 June 2019 13:38 (three weeks ago) link

Edging closer to the first 12-12 breaker at Roehampton; Sinner and Bolt are deep into the decider...

Michael Jones, Monday, 24 June 2019 18:21 (three weeks ago) link

Edging closer to the first 12-12 breaker at Roehampton; Sinner and Bolt are deep into the decider...

Michael Jones, Monday, 24 June 2019 18:21 (three weeks ago) link

Jinxed it! Bolt wins 12-10 as soon as I posted that.

Michael Jones, Monday, 24 June 2019 18:21 (three weeks ago) link

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