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Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 19 January 2007 06:57 (fifteen years ago) link

The Fireman's Ball is fantastic! One of the funniest films i have ever seen and the political satire is wonderfully biting. Loves of a Blonde (one of his other early czech films) is pretty good, but i dont rate it on the same level as Ball.

t0dd swiss (immobilisme), Friday, 19 January 2007 07:06 (fifteen years ago) link

I read 'Ragtime' some years after seeing the movie (and a South Bank 'making of') on TV. It's an angry book, and the movie seemed like a bit of a travesty in retrospect. Memory may be playing me false though.

Soukesian (Soukesian), Friday, 19 January 2007 18:44 (fifteen years ago) link

I prefer Dangerous Liasions to Valmont (Meg Tilly was seriously miscast) but do agree that it captured a bit of the novel's brittle slyness. Cuckoo's Nest is still my favorite.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Friday, 19 January 2007 18:55 (fifteen years ago) link

The Fireman's Ball is one of my all-time favorite films.

AllyzayEisenschefterBDawkinsFlyingSquirrelRomoCrying.jpg (allyzay), Friday, 19 January 2007 18:57 (fifteen years ago) link

Completely forgot about Ragtime. And it's been years since I saw The Fireman's Ball; I must get back to it.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 19 January 2007 19:40 (fifteen years ago) link

He directed HAIR dudes. HAIR. I love Fireman's Ball, tho, and interviews with this guy are always really inspiring. Guy KNOWS about free speech.

Abbott (Abbott), Friday, 19 January 2007 19:53 (fifteen years ago) link

He hasn't really directed anything I like that much (though I think Amadeus is way more fun than most other Oscary 80s films), but I always appreciate seeing Vincent Schiavelli on screen.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Friday, 19 January 2007 20:05 (fifteen years ago) link

(Haven't seen The Fireman's Ball yet.)

Eric H. (Eric H.), Friday, 19 January 2007 20:06 (fifteen years ago) link

Ah thank you, someone who knows.

R.I.P. excellent charactor Actor Vincent Schiavelli

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 19 January 2007 20:06 (fifteen years ago) link

Oddly enough I watched Taking Off a couple days ago. It's a 1971 movie about a middle class couple looking for their runaway daughter. Pretty good, a lighter take than Joe or that other one I can't remember now. It's Foreman's first US movie, and has Vincent Schiavelli in his first role. (A comic bit where he gives a group of these parents weed to smoke to let them see what it's like.)

nickn (nickn), Saturday, 20 January 2007 00:02 (fifteen years ago) link

haven't seen all his stuff and definitely enjoy some of his American efforts, but its always hard for me to escape the feeling that One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest, Amadeus, Man on the Moon, and The People Vs. Larry Flynt are all basically the same movie.

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Saturday, 20 January 2007 00:11 (fifteen years ago) link

i can kinda see that with the last two but how are cuckoo's nest and amadeus alike at all?

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Saturday, 20 January 2007 03:06 (fifteen years ago) link

for my part, i adore cuckoo's nest - one of my 3 or 4 favorite films of the '70s, probably - and like amadeus a lot. not so big on the later ones. i'll definitely check out fireman's ball after this thread.

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Saturday, 20 January 2007 03:12 (fifteen years ago) link

five months pass...

I caught an advance screening of Goya's Ghosts last Friday. The film should be trickling into theatres over the next few weeks. It's pretty good (not great), yet another Forman biopic, this time concerning Francisco Goya and others during revolutiontime in Spain.* Natalie Portman's in it. It looks like she's angling for an Oscar--not only is her part a duel role, she also spends a good chunk of her screentime ugged-up with bad teeth, stringy hair, the works. She's also not very good. However, Javier Bardem was superb, as were Michael Lonsdale and Stellan Skarsgård.

*Parallels are even drawn between the french invasion and a current quagmire for those who pay attention.

C. Grisso/McCain, Monday, 16 July 2007 17:24 (fourteen years ago) link

revolutiontime

More a civil war. As for the parallels, I'm seeing that in other places as well (recently historical overviews of the Napoleonic era in general, etc.) It appears to be the snooty version of Vietnam comparisons.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 16 July 2007 17:27 (fourteen years ago) link

let me guess its about a wild individualistic hedonist who is destroyed by the conservative mediocracy of his contemporaries

Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 16 July 2007 17:27 (fourteen years ago) link

Well, Yes and No. There is a individualistic hedonist who is ultimately destroyed by his own arrogance and, well... the conservative mediocracy of his contemporaries. Though it isn't Goya, who serves more as a connective tissue, a reporter chronicling the events as they go down. It's funny though, because the first scene sets Goya up to be that first character, but alas, it doesn't pan out.

C. Grisso/McCain, Monday, 16 July 2007 18:23 (fourteen years ago) link

I just saw People vs. Larry Flynt and was kinda disappointed by it.

Abbott, Friday, 27 July 2007 17:19 (fourteen years ago) link

But you gotta admit, Courtney Love was well-cast.

kenan, Friday, 27 July 2007 17:20 (fourteen years ago) link

Boy, I hope she doesn't get typecast. :(

kenan, Friday, 27 July 2007 17:20 (fourteen years ago) link

HAHAHAHA

Yeah, v. well cast, though later reasearch did not help me discover whether IRL wife dressed like one of the first spo0o0o0ooky club folx at the Batcave.

Abbott, Friday, 27 July 2007 17:22 (fourteen years ago) link

there are a couple funny sequences but overall yeah its a squandered opportunity. lolz @ Courtney Oscar-talk when that came out

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 27 July 2007 17:44 (fourteen years ago) link

OMG you're kidding.

I think the Xtian conversion scene was the best. I don't know, based on interviews with Forman, I thought it'd be this totally triumphant celebration of free speech and challenging censorship & whatnot, whereas, it kind of ... was dissatisfying in that department. Made me wish I'da just rewatched "Pleasatville" for that kinda vibe. That movie does it for me every time.

Edward Norton was mighty attractive, tho.

Abbott, Friday, 27 July 2007 17:46 (fourteen years ago) link

one month passes...

TAKING OFF is still unavailable on dvd or vhs.

pisces, Wednesday, 29 August 2007 13:22 (fourteen years ago) link

four years pass...

Taking Off playing tnite at NYC's Film Forum, guess I have to go.

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 1 August 2012 18:33 (nine years ago) link

TAKING OFF is still unavailable on dvd or vhs.

was issued on region 2 dvd earlier this year - uses many of the same stylistic tricks as Firemen's Ball and Blonde in Love, w/out ever quite matching them for poignancy or humour. Still worth a watch, tho.

Ward Fowler, Thursday, 2 August 2012 11:59 (nine years ago) link

two years pass...

RIP Miroslav Ondříček (tho I think If.... and O Lucky Man! are my faves that he shot, not the Formans)

http://deadline.com/2015/03/miroslav-ondricek-dies-cinematographer-behind-amadeus-was-80-1201400839/

the increasing costive borborygmi (Dr Morbius), Monday, 30 March 2015 19:15 (seven years ago) link

three years pass...

RIP

flappy bird, Saturday, 14 April 2018 07:08 (four years ago) link

TAKING OFF is still unavailable on dvd or vhs.

Apparently music rights are holding it up (at least in Region 1). I saw it in a double feature with AUDITION (1964). ILM types might especially be interested in its portrait of pop music behind the Iron Curtain--lots of domestic songs that sound just enough like their Western inspirations to tip them into the uncanny valley.

And I'm sorry to see the man go, but he did have a respectable run of work.

Polly of the Pre-Codes (j.lu), Saturday, 14 April 2018 12:50 (four years ago) link

"Cuckoo's Nest" is one of my all time favourite movies. I really need to see his Czech films

well bissogled trotters (Michael B), Saturday, 14 April 2018 12:59 (four years ago) link

Dangerous Liasions is by far the best of his post-Czech international successes

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 14 April 2018 13:03 (four years ago) link

(I meant his take on DL; should never type w/one thumb)

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 14 April 2018 13:12 (four years ago) link

Cuckoo's Nest, D L, Amadeus all great movies. I absolutely loathed that Larry Flint travesty.

calzino, Saturday, 14 April 2018 13:15 (four years ago) link

I don't think any of those Oscar winners are great films, but they're fun to watch for being ribald.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 14 April 2018 13:20 (four years ago) link

(by Oscar standards)

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 14 April 2018 13:20 (four years ago) link

I'd re-watch any of them, I suppose I just meant "great" as thoroughly enjoyed them much more than most other dross in the last 20 years!

calzino, Saturday, 14 April 2018 13:23 (four years ago) link

Never had any interest in Amadeus, but I think Cuckoo's Nest--because of the performances, because of the moment--is a pretty great movie. (This is unfair, but I'm guessing it's an improvement on the book.) I've always meant to see his two well-known early films, but they just never seem to play in Toronto.

clemenza, Saturday, 14 April 2018 13:24 (four years ago) link

I agree it's an improvement on the book, and as a crowd pleaser it can't be beat (I think it and Forrest Gump are the only Best Picture winners that are also the highest-grossing films of their respective years).

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 14 April 2018 13:26 (four years ago) link

Amadeus > Cuckoo's Nest

Uppercase (Eric H.), Saturday, 14 April 2018 13:26 (four years ago) link

too brute-eh

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 14 April 2018 13:36 (four years ago) link

Reducing films to one fantastic image:

http://i.imgur.com/88jCL.jpg

clemenza, Saturday, 14 April 2018 13:39 (four years ago) link

I wouldn't One Perfect Shot that movie, really.

Uppercase (Eric H.), Saturday, 14 April 2018 13:45 (four years ago) link

I always get Taking Off, Little Murders, and Getting Straight confused--a quick check tells me that Taking Off is the one I haven't seen.

clemenza, Saturday, 14 April 2018 13:50 (four years ago) link

Amadeus belongs on the stage, and even there it's a trifle.

the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 14 April 2018 15:29 (four years ago) link

I've seen The Loves of a Blonde bigged up on here so many times and still haven't got round to watching it.

calzino, Sunday, 15 April 2018 10:12 (four years ago) link

I'd forgotten about later should-have-been-betters like Man on the Moon and Larry Flynt. He was directing so infrequently they felt like events at the time, and Carrey and Harrelson were good. They just didn't seem to say with me for very long. The first produced a great song and video, though (not directed by Forman).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_JnCWT-_O8

clemenza, Sunday, 15 April 2018 13:50 (four years ago) link

three months pass...

I was looking up Sarah Paulson (because I just spent the entirety of a very bad movie thinking she was Kristen Wiig) and came across this--Netflix is producing a prequel about Nurse Ratched?

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt7423538/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_1

clemenza, Thursday, 9 August 2018 03:04 (three years ago) link

Louise Fletcher gave such an iconic performance, not sure how this is going to work

Dan S, Thursday, 9 August 2018 03:11 (three years ago) link

The description's amusing: "A young nurse at a mental institution becomes jaded, bitter and a downright monster to her patients." So it's basically Better Call Saul--she starts out as Florence Nightingale, but her patients, or bureaucracy, or some personal betrayal will ground her down and turn her into Mussolini.

clemenza, Thursday, 9 August 2018 03:18 (three years ago) link

three years pass...

watching it again after decades, it’s interesting to see that One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest has some of the beguiling homeliness of Milos Forman’s two great Czech films, Loves of a Blonde and The Firemen’s Ball, both of which I’ve only seen recently

Dan S, Tuesday, 21 June 2022 01:54 (one week ago) link

I remember being really affected by the theremin in the soundtrack at the time, but it didn’t seem like a big component of the film now

Dan S, Tuesday, 21 June 2022 02:07 (one week ago) link

I don't know if Brad Dourif understood at the time what being a stutterer meant or how exactly to act the part, but he leaned in to the role in a very engaging way

Dan S, Tuesday, 21 June 2022 02:31 (one week ago) link


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