the virtues and flaws of Paul Schrader's "building a film canon" article in Sept-Oct Film Comment

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Eric H. accused him of being humorless, and I think that's untenable when he wrote that if "assemblage is the art form of the 20th century and Joseph Cornell its Godfather... Tarantino is its Michael Corleone." (In the midst of the best condemnation of Kill Bill's triviality I've seen.)

I also like that he defends the "Eurocentrism" of his canon with "Damn straight," as it's a pretense that an individual's identity doesn't determine his upper-echelon criteria (though I wish not quite so much as in PS's case).

http://filmlinc.com/fcm/nd06/schraderresponds.htm


Reader critiques here:

http://filmlinc.com/fcm/nd06/furtherfodder.htm


Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 16 November 2006 21:19 (fourteen years ago) link

I like Schrader a lot even if he was humorless (and I don't think he is.) I also really want to see The Aura. Where is the original list of 60?

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 16 November 2006 21:25 (fourteen years ago) link

It's a fine list, I must say.

aesthetically pleasing, in other words 'fly' (kenan), Thursday, 16 November 2006 21:29 (fourteen years ago) link

Also Salvatore Giuliano is way way better than Z (probably not than The Battle of Algiers, but I can excuse that claim given TBOA obvious debt.)

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 16 November 2006 21:31 (fourteen years ago) link

Perfectly fine movies you only need to see once...

Edward III (edward iii), Thursday, 16 November 2006 21:31 (fourteen years ago) link

Well, only his introduction (with the list) is online -- as he wrote, "Anyone can make lists," and his is not fair, democratic, or PC. Which is why I don't wanna debate the List.

You should read the full text, as his criteria are the focus: Beauty, Strangeness, Unity of form and subject, Tradition, Repeatability, Viewer engagement, Morality.


Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 16 November 2006 21:32 (fourteen years ago) link

^and as he says, no one's canon need be fair, democratic, or PC.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 16 November 2006 21:34 (fourteen years ago) link

Is the full text online at all?

aesthetically pleasing, in other words 'fly' (kenan), Thursday, 16 November 2006 21:35 (fourteen years ago) link

Hm. The Film Center site just has the introduction. :(

aesthetically pleasing, in other words 'fly' (kenan), Thursday, 16 November 2006 21:36 (fourteen years ago) link

The Big Lebowski and Talk to Her?!? Lots of stuffy films I barely made it through once on here that I couldn't imagine even trying to watch twice. Also about 20 or so stone classics too though.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 16 November 2006 21:42 (fourteen years ago) link

The Big Lebowski is a fine movie.

I like that he reps for All That Jazz. One of my personal faves.

aesthetically pleasing, in other words 'fly' (kenan), Thursday, 16 November 2006 21:43 (fourteen years ago) link

I find Lebowski the most ridiculous choice, but again it's not the meat of the piece. He only wanted to choose 20 at the outset.

No, I haven't found the full text anywhere online; check the library for FC.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 16 November 2006 21:51 (fourteen years ago) link

One of the movies on this list that I've never seen and always wnated to and which I just got reminded about is The Naked Spur and it's on Netflix so there I go.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 17 November 2006 00:36 (fourteen years ago) link

The Naked Spur features my favorite "dark" James Stewart performance after Vertigo.

I read Schrader's little book on transcendental style a few years ago; it had some useful insights into Ozu and Bresson.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Friday, 17 November 2006 01:14 (fourteen years ago) link

anyone who thinks most great movies were made before 1970 is probably an asshole.

and then there's this:
http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.cinematical.com/media/2006/11/schraderjma.jpg

and:
he claims that cinema, and especially the idea of finding aesthetic art therein, is mostly dead, a relic of the 20th century. He calls cinema a "broken down horse"

jhoshea megafauna (scoopsnoodle), Friday, 17 November 2006 03:20 (fourteen years ago) link

NOTE THE SOUL PATCH

jhoshea megafauna (scoopsnoodle), Friday, 17 November 2006 03:20 (fourteen years ago) link

http://www.nastassja-kinski.jp/sonja/article/photo400/nastassja_sonja_s.jpg

"He shoot me there!"

(For me, the funniest bit from Easy Riders, Raging Bulls)

The Dusty Baker Selection (Charles McCain), Friday, 17 November 2006 03:33 (fourteen years ago) link

should i waste my time with this?

pinkmoose (jacklove), Friday, 17 November 2006 03:49 (fourteen years ago) link

No one should be surprised that an aging man finds comfort in melancholy and canonizing.

anyone who thinks most great movies were made before 1970 is probably an asshole

It's no more valid than thinking most great novels were written before 1930.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Friday, 17 November 2006 03:54 (fourteen years ago) link

change 1970 to 1980 and i have no problem with his statement

timmy tannin (pompous), Friday, 17 November 2006 04:02 (fourteen years ago) link

i mean, where is the porn, the explotation, the outsider work, that and it pays way to much attention to aueters...

pinkmoose (jacklove), Friday, 17 November 2006 04:05 (fourteen years ago) link

i mean sirk is not only on his list, but the list of things he forgot

pinkmoose (jacklove), Friday, 17 November 2006 04:12 (fourteen years ago) link

a fine magazine.

anthony, are you saying sirk is an outsider? srsly?

benrique (Enrique), Friday, 17 November 2006 09:43 (fourteen years ago) link

The biggest and most obvious flaw I see is that there are no instructions on how to build a canon. I was looking forward to blowing shit up.

Bobby Ganush (Uri Frendimein), Friday, 17 November 2006 11:05 (fourteen years ago) link

i am still thinking on the article. the mention of f r leavis interests me because early leavis interests me. i don't like canons of any kind, but in practical terms you have to live with them. anti-canon types have their canons; and modern-day film culture, if it is meant to be non-eurocentric, certainly has its sacred cows.

like douglas sirk!

or in terms of its master-thinkers even more so. canons are usually testament not just to prejudices but moreover of amnesia and ignorance of the past.

benrique (Enrique), Friday, 17 November 2006 11:09 (fourteen years ago) link

in the mood for love 2046

jhoshea megafauna (scoopsnoodle), Friday, 17 November 2006 14:04 (fourteen years ago) link

2046 is shit.

benrique (Enrique), Friday, 17 November 2006 14:08 (fourteen years ago) link

The demise of the canon was tied to the demise of high culture, the demise of high culture to the demise of commonly accepted standards—and the demise of accepted standards led to questions about “the end of Art.”

...


I agree with Kurzweil that humankind is on an evolutionary cusp. We can foresee both the end of the 20,000-year reign of Homo sapiens and the beginnings of the life-forms that will replace it (something Kurzweil and Garreau predict will happen in the next hundred years). Art looks to the future; it is society’s harbinger. The demise of Art’s human narrative is not a sign of creative bankruptcy. It’s the twinkling of changes to come. Such thoughts fill me not with despair but envy: I wish I could be there to see the curtain rise.

ok he might actually just be a little crazy.

jhoshea megafauna (scoopsnoodle), Friday, 17 November 2006 14:11 (fourteen years ago) link

the first bit made sense, not so much with the second...

benrique (Enrique), Friday, 17 November 2006 14:13 (fourteen years ago) link

2046 is shit

well i liked it, but i was more just pointing out that when given the choice between the two dude picked one with the antiquated sensibilities.

(neither would make my super awesome filmographic cannon.)

jhoshea megafauna (scoopsnoodle), Friday, 17 November 2006 14:16 (fourteen years ago) link

the first part of the first part made sense, the second part of the first part is ponderously inane, the second part is sweet sci-fi action.

jhoshea megafauna (scoopsnoodle), Friday, 17 November 2006 14:22 (fourteen years ago) link

lolz that works for my 2046 is shit post too.

jhoshea megafauna (scoopsnoodle), Friday, 17 November 2006 14:27 (fourteen years ago) link

which antiquated sensibilities?

anyone who thinks most great movies were made before 1970 is probably an asshole.

Since nearly two-thirds of the Century of Cinema falls in this period, you need more than a drive-by one-liner to be taken seriously with this. And since the aesthetics of film developed and matured almost entirely in this time, its supremacy seems even more undeniable. This strikes me as the kind of thing somebody who hasn't even bothered to see hardly any Renoir, Bresson, Ford, Ozu, Sturges, Rossellini etc. would say. Have you?

Over 90% of great Hollywood studio films were likely made before '70, maybe '65. (The early '70s is balanced out by the preeminence of crap in the last 25 years.)

The "broken down horse" thing makes sense to me, as I don't think there's any question we're going to be watching exclusively digital media in theaters in 10-20 years (hello, NOT FILM. Most of what either gets discussed heavily or anticipated on ILX -- Borat, Inland Empire, Jackass 1 & 2, or my recent favorite The Joy of Life -- is not cinema).

re the Kurzweil and Garreau stuff (which I plan to look at) about our imminent evolutionary leap: Can't you see people already using their phones and PDAs with the frequency and utility of organs? They're already half-machine. (Which is why I'm kinda surprised Cronenberg didn't make Schrader's 60.)

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 17 November 2006 14:42 (fourteen years ago) link

morbius, are things which are digitally edited 'not cinema'?

benrique (Enrique), Friday, 17 November 2006 14:45 (fourteen years ago) link

I'm talking about the medium: celluloid or something else.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 17 November 2006 14:54 (fourteen years ago) link

Borat, Inland Empire, Jackass 1 & 2, or my recent favorite The Joy of Life -- is not cinema

semantics!

over 90% of great Hollywood studio films were likely made before '70, maybe '65. (The early '70s is balanced out by the preeminence of crap in the last 25 years.)

this would only constitute an argument if no one else was making movies. (and of course there were tons in the 70's).

re the Kurzweil and Garreau stuff (which I plan to look at) about our imminent evolutionary leap: Can't you see people already using their phones and PDAs with the frequency and utility of organs? They're already half-machine. (Which is why I'm kinda surprised Cronenberg didn't make Schrader's 60.)

half-pointy stick > half-plow > half-tv > half-smart-phone: the evolution of man!!!

(and yeah i've seen movies by all those dudes you mentioned w/ozu being the one i have true affection for. although why everyone loves toyko story so much better than good morning {which has fart jokes, hello!} is a mystery to me.)

jhoshea megafauna (scoopsnoodle), Friday, 17 November 2006 14:54 (fourteen years ago) link

so why did things get so much better after 1970? chic violence? Fassbinder and Waters? Christopher Walken? Amelie?

We're not talking about whether you have a great affection for them, we're talking if they made canonical films.

semantics!

No, something's either made on film or isn't, or is a stitched-together TV sketch show or isn't.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 17 November 2006 15:00 (fourteen years ago) link

I'm talking about the medium: celluloid or something else.
-- Dr Morbius (wjwe...), November 17th, 2006.

celluloid is not a medium. that's like saying literature is paper or some shit.

benrique (Enrique), Friday, 17 November 2006 15:01 (fourteen years ago) link

We're not talking about whether you have a great affection for them, we're talking if they made canonical films.

well some of them can be in my cannon any day, but i must warn you it's gonna be based on affection. and of course i wasn't partiularly saying that movies after 1970 were better, just that there's a lot of good ones there too, right?

woman under the influence, terminator, mulholland dr, borat - how u be leavin these out?

jhoshea megafauna (scoopsnoodle), Friday, 17 November 2006 15:08 (fourteen years ago) link

actually borat the wire. see tv shows can be cinema too!

jhoshea megafauna (scoopsnoodle), Friday, 17 November 2006 15:10 (fourteen years ago) link

i don't know where the canon crowd derive their standards from, or why they expect other people to subscribe to them.

xpost

tbh tv >>>>>> the cinema for a long-ass time. but then cinema used to be more like tv; films would be melted down; it was an ephemeral medium.

benrique (Enrique), Friday, 17 November 2006 15:12 (fourteen years ago) link

where does the "NON-canon crowd" derive their standards from? There are none, it's "here's a list of what I like, just cuz."

Literature is experienced via paper (this may change, let's see); film is experienced via projected light through celluloid.

i wasn't partiularly saying that movies after 1970 were better

More films were made en toto before '70; you said "most great movies were made before 1970" is assholism. You were, by the math, saying they're better since.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 17 November 2006 15:19 (fourteen years ago) link

where does the "NON-canon crowd" derive their standards from? There are none, it's "here's a list of what I like, just cuz."

that's all you're doing! but just claiming high art values for it, universalizing it.

benrique (Enrique), Friday, 17 November 2006 15:21 (fourteen years ago) link

dude has two movies post 1990 on his list!!!!!!!!!!!!! do teh maths.

jhoshea megafauna (scoopsnoodle), Friday, 17 November 2006 15:22 (fourteen years ago) link

he has never even seen the god of cookery

jhoshea megafauna (scoopsnoodle), Friday, 17 November 2006 15:24 (fourteen years ago) link

a lot of tv is *shot* on film. i don't see that the light-through-film-strip model somehow adds up to an art-form in itself. the art is in the other stuff -- photography, editing, writing, acting, etc.

benrique (Enrique), Friday, 17 November 2006 15:24 (fourteen years ago) link

I'm not saying non-film stuff isn't art, it's just not cinema (admittedly it's a technical and/or narrow definition, but the very nature of video changes the way stuff is categorized, distributed, talked about etc). TV shows shot on film are almost never seen projected tho (except for foreign TV we get in theaters, like The Best of Youth, Berlin Alexanderplatz), which renders the filminess moot.

dude has two movies post 1990 on his list!!!!!!!

But that math says that there are many fewer canonical films since '90, which I wouldn't quarrel with -- for one thing, by Schrader's criterion of Repeatability, we don't entirely know their place in the firmament yet.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 17 November 2006 15:42 (fourteen years ago) link

hah i was gonna mention best of youth - total kriptonite to yr cinemaness.

where was schrader's criteria, i was just looking for it? morality was included lol.

jhoshea megafauna (scoopsnoodle), Friday, 17 November 2006 15:46 (fourteen years ago) link

what a racist he is

Eric H. (Eric H.), Friday, 17 November 2006 15:47 (fourteen years ago) link

influential = lots of non-critics read it

five months pass...

Matt Zoller Seitz is murdering the classics! You can too...

http://www.salon.com/life/slide_shows/index.html?story=/ent/movies/film_salon/2010/09/10/movie_heresy_slide_show

kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 11 September 2010 17:44 (eleven years ago) link

Gran Torino is a classic?

Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Saturday, 11 September 2010 17:54 (eleven years ago) link

maybe this guy can put together the Kill Your Idols of cinema!

da croupier, Saturday, 11 September 2010 17:56 (eleven years ago) link

can't wait to find out what the cinematic equivalent of Paul McCartney's Ram is

da croupier, Saturday, 11 September 2010 17:56 (eleven years ago) link

The Science of Sleep.

Gucci Mane hermeneuticist (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 11 September 2010 17:59 (eleven years ago) link

Good thread revives all around today, Morbs. I was just thinking about starting that "Make your own S&S '12 ballots" list thread this afternoon.

Eric H., Saturday, 11 September 2010 17:59 (eleven years ago) link

if he wanted to take down an eastwood movie he should have gone with unforgiven

buzza, Saturday, 11 September 2010 18:39 (eleven years ago) link

or, given its surprisingly unimpeachable status among cinephiles, Bridges of Madison County

Eric H., Saturday, 11 September 2010 18:43 (eleven years ago) link

is that unimpeachable? i always thought it was on the lesser end of his critical adorations. could be mistaking Anthony Lane with general consensus.

MZS right about Gran Torino. Unforgiven is great fuiud.

a cankle of rads (Gukbe), Saturday, 11 September 2010 19:21 (eleven years ago) link

Unforgiven realy did not break new ground, even Clintwise, as was claimed.

I had Madison Co on for the first 15 mins on TCM last week and myGgod, they hadnt even gotten to Clint and Meryl yet. Never seen, but I will skip the first reel if I ever do.

kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 11 September 2010 20:37 (eleven years ago) link

Not necessarily about breaking new ground though is it.

Madison County is pretty tedious.

a cankle of rads (Gukbe), Saturday, 11 September 2010 20:41 (eleven years ago) link

Streep and Eastwood are excellent together; it's still one of her best.

Gucci Mane hermeneuticist (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 11 September 2010 20:44 (eleven years ago) link

ten months pass...

just wanted to pop in and say I caught Blue Collar on cable last night, had seen it before, but damn that is a good movie.

Richard Nixon's Field of Warmth (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 10 August 2011 22:12 (ten years ago) link

I've only seen it once, but thought it was good--best after Affliction for me, being a director I don't usually care for.

clemenza, Thursday, 11 August 2011 00:18 (ten years ago) link

i totally want to build a film cannon, to shoot film critics with

ice cr?m, Thursday, 11 August 2011 00:22 (ten years ago) link

I was talking about Light of Day with a friend this morning. Schrader misjudges (typically) how good Joan Jett is.

a 'catch-all', almost humorous, 'Jeez' quality (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 11 August 2011 00:25 (ten years ago) link

whoah WTF never even heard of that before

Richard Nixon's Field of Warmth (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 11 August 2011 16:04 (ten years ago) link

you don't remember the Jett song? It's a Springsteen number – and great performance.

a 'catch-all', almost humorous, 'Jeez' quality (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 11 August 2011 16:30 (ten years ago) link

Hardcore is still probably my favorite Schrader movie.

Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Thursday, 11 August 2011 16:34 (ten years ago) link

Mishima's pretty good too, IIRC, but it's been years since I've seen it so I mostly remember the score now.

Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Thursday, 11 August 2011 16:36 (ten years ago) link

I'm replying to history mayne upthread:

I DO think that books are a medium. You said

celluloid is not a medium. that's like saying literature is paper or some shit.

but I think that literature was changed by paper. Actually, that's not even a remotely controversial thing to say - it's more of a truism than anything - so it feels weird disagreeing. I agree that "literature" is more than books, but if you said, "Books are dead," then it would be unfair to reply, "But look at all of the good writing happening on the Internet," because the nature of the literature would be different. I have never and will never read a novel on the internet, for instance. I admit that there is a remote possibility I would do it on an ebook. If I were arguing with you back in 2006 or whenever, I would think the celluloid to non-celluloid shift would be something like the book to ebook shift. The celluloid shift is probably less severe, so point taken, but I sympathize with morbz's position because I'm most drawn to movies made before 1980.

I think that in 2009 or 2011 that Leni Reifenstahl hiccup would have lasted a few hundred posts longer.

bamcquern, Thursday, 11 August 2011 19:40 (ten years ago) link

one year passes...

Meanwhile, Ellis, Pope and Schrader battled over the film’s final cut. Pope screened a rough cut of The Canyons for Steven Soderbergh. Intrigued, Soderbergh offered to do an edit of the movie if he was given the footage for 72 hours.

Schrader said no. […] "The idea of 72 hours is a joke,” Schrader said. “It would take him 72 hours to look at all the footage. And you know what Soderbergh would do if another director offered to cut his film?”

I said I didn’t. Schrader leaned back in his chair and gave me two middle fingers.

“That’s what Soderbergh would do.”

turds (Hungry4Ass), Thursday, 10 January 2013 22:04 (eight years ago) link

five months pass...

Film Comment really doubling down on this in the next issue.

Gukbe, Tuesday, 9 July 2013 21:08 (eight years ago) link

gtfo w/ 180 minutes !

shouldve def let sodes edit

johnny crunch, Wednesday, 10 July 2013 13:30 (eight years ago) link

I think that's the time of the event, including the Q&A with Schrader.

playwright Greg Marlowe, secretly in love with Mary (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 10 July 2013 13:48 (eight years ago) link

well it better be

johnny crunch, Wednesday, 10 July 2013 13:54 (eight years ago) link

now listed at 100 mins.

aaaand I forgot the public sale started at midnight, and the tix are gone.

playwright Greg Marlowe, secretly in love with Mary (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 11 July 2013 11:32 (eight years ago) link

nine months pass...

Checked back to see what I wrote about Auto Focus at the time, and it did improve some. What seemed like a very limiting flatness then was still there, but shrunk down, it wasn't so bothersome. One of the better Schrader films, I'd say. Similar to Star 80 in a lot of ways.

clemenza, Tuesday, 22 April 2014 04:16 (seven years ago) link

I just saw Mishima yesterday, and...WOW. Kind of mad that the most intriguing of the stories adapted (Kyoko's House) is one of the handful of Mishima novels that's never been released or translated in the west.

Damnit Janet Weiss & The Riot Grrriel (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 22 April 2014 04:33 (seven years ago) link

I saw Blue Collar once before, about 10 or 15 years ago, and don't really remember how I felt. It seemed very strong this time--I'd say Schrader's best film after Affliction. Pryor, Keitel, and Kotto are so good, the essential blandness that drags down most of Schrader's films for me was never an issue.

Pryor hisses invective--at the union steward during the meeting, at the IRS guy--as well as anyone I can remember. Kael singles out Kotto, and he really is great; one of those performances that feels completely natural, without a trace of acting. And Keitel does one of his best jobs ever of laying back and letting those around him be the focus of attention.

Really liked seeing a couple of Scorsese bit players: George "What's a mook?" Memmoli, and Harry Northup (Doughboy) from Taxi Driver.

clemenza, Thursday, 1 May 2014 21:57 (seven years ago) link

five months pass...

I'm sympathetic, but at the same time wincing at the thought of a Nicholas Cage thriller:

http://deadline.com/2014/10/paul-schrader-dying-of-the-light-nicolas-cage-protest-853521/

clemenza, Sunday, 19 October 2014 19:45 (six years ago) link

one month passes...

As for the state of cinema itself, Schrader has long put forth the position that the moviegoing experience was we know it is on it's way out the door. "...the 20th-century concept of a projected image in a dark room in front of a paying audience. If you’re wedded to that concept, you’re in trouble, because that concept is dead," he states. Pointing toward both longer form storytelling on TV and shorter form moviemaking on the internet, Schrader says the definition of a "movie" is up for grabs, and the three-act, two-hour movie is becoming stale. And so, when it comes to the push lately for 35mm projection and saving analog formats, you better bring that nostalgia somewhere else.

"It’s all revanchist claptrap. The goal of art is not to tell people what tools they want to use, but to use whatever tools are around. The tools are always changing and the artists need to change with the tools. We didn’t have movies 100 years ago, and we did quite fine without them, and now they’re going to become something else again," Schrader says.

http://blogs.indiewire.com/theplaylist/paul-schrader-talks-bad-people-behind-dying-of-the-light-says-push-for-35mm-projection-is-claptrap-20141121

things lose meaning over time (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 22 November 2014 07:00 (six years ago) link

two months pass...

Damn, there's no region 2 of Mishima. A lot of high quality picture dvds look pretty bad on my multi-region player and I'm reluctant to shell out for another multi-region player, especially with bluray possibly pushing dvds out the way.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Thursday, 5 February 2015 04:02 (six years ago) link

The Criterion Mishima is gorgeous on pretty much every level (transfer, artwork, packaging...)

Don A Henley And Get Over It (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 5 February 2015 07:34 (six years ago) link

Somebody posted it on YouTube but I'm going to resist it.

Wish Eureka would pick it up but they don't tend to do as many newer films as Criterion.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Thursday, 5 February 2015 13:58 (six years ago) link

two years pass...

as noted elsewhere, his tormented clergyman movie is getting him his best press in eons

https://www.criterion.com/current/posts/4875-the-daily-venice-toronto-2017-schrader-s-first-reformed

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 13 September 2017 15:17 (four years ago) link

three weeks pass...

^it's one of his best, indeed.

also has a revised edition of his transcendental film book out next year

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 7 October 2017 17:00 (three years ago) link

Dog Eat Dog never really topped the insane opening sequence, but the cartoonish gruesomeness of the film on the whole was hmmm memorable.

Οὖτις, Saturday, 7 October 2017 19:51 (three years ago) link

five months pass...

The point is not to *get* the canonical movie, but use it as a tool to learn a different style or perspective or world (KANE got its position because it’s an extremely teachable movie in terms of narrative / aesthetic strategies)

— Peter Labuza (@labuzamovies) March 20, 2018

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 20 March 2018 14:38 (three years ago) link

^^ a point often missed by conservatives bemoaning what lib English faculty are doing.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 20 March 2018 14:40 (three years ago) link

six months pass...

Girish Shambu on the male canon and auteurism

https://filmquarterly.org/2018/09/21/times-up-for-the-male-canon/

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 24 September 2018 17:55 (two years ago) link

two years pass...

gee i wonder why pic.twitter.com/nQstniXRHM

— paul schrader's facebook posts (@paul_posts) August 4, 2021

i carry the torch for disco inauthenticity (Eric H.), Wednesday, 4 August 2021 02:00 (one month ago) link

gee i wonder why pic.twitter.com/nQstniXRHM

— paul schrader's facebook posts (@paul_posts) August 4, 2021

i carry the torch for disco inauthenticity (Eric H.), Wednesday, 4 August 2021 02:00 (one month ago) link

one month passes...

The possibly 9/11-anniversary-timed (hard to say with release schedules right now) The Card Counter is supposed to be cathartic, I suppose, but I found it to be more and more of an ordeal as it went along. The truly dreadful soundtrack played a part in that. I thought I was headed out to see a good poker film.

clemenza, Sunday, 12 September 2021 21:14 (six days ago) link

You do what you must. But I was impressed that Schrader got such a wide opening for a film exploring the impact and legacy of Abu Ghraib. Has this, or other episodes of the War on Terror, been treated in such detail before?

Also, I hope that the desk jockeys who defended "enhanced interrogation" will be questioned again. But somehow I suspect once again they'll not experience material or professional discomfort.

Infanta Terrible (j.lu), Monday, 13 September 2021 00:32 (five days ago) link


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