i hate christopher guest

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roc u like a § (ex machina), Monday, 13 November 2006 23:39 (seventeen years ago) link

he's been around for like 40 years. what took you so long!!??

scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 13 November 2006 23:41 (seventeen years ago) link

i just got a record of fred willard's old comedy troupe. haven't listened yet. will report back.

scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 13 November 2006 23:42 (seventeen years ago) link

for me: 1989

mark s (mark s), Monday, 13 November 2006 23:43 (seventeen years ago) link

for me, 1970-something:


http://www.marksverylarge.com/images/radiodinner.jpg

scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 13 November 2006 23:46 (seventeen years ago) link

"nigel tufnel" is listed on the credits for the Lenny & Squiggy album(circa 1979).

kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Monday, 13 November 2006 23:47 (seventeen years ago) link

Rich Hall is so much funnier

songs and ballads of the bituminous miners (sanskrit), Monday, 13 November 2006 23:48 (seventeen years ago) link

GET ONE (1) SNIGLET

songs and ballads of the bituminous miners (sanskrit), Monday, 13 November 2006 23:48 (seventeen years ago) link

5th Baron Haden-Guest of Saling in the County of Essex, if it helps you warm to him better

rich hall is not funnier than anyone, much

mark s (mark s), Monday, 13 November 2006 23:50 (seventeen years ago) link

catherine o'hara and fred willard leave me no choice but to keep going to his movies.

dan (dan), Tuesday, 14 November 2006 00:38 (seventeen years ago) link

i can understand being sick of guest at this point...but hating him feels a bit much!

latebloomer: not to be confused with the dolphin from Seaquest DSV (latebloomer), Tuesday, 14 November 2006 03:36 (seventeen years ago) link

All of his jokes just feel the fucking same. I don't even object to his movies but the execution feels so tired. Maybe he should try using all new cast?

roc u like a § (ex machina), Tuesday, 14 November 2006 03:50 (seventeen years ago) link

rich hall is not funny, period.

hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 14 November 2006 03:51 (seventeen years ago) link

Christopher Guest's movies are only slightly less awful than Spinal Tap, but not by much. They're all so toothless and boring, I don't know how anyone can watch them.

milo z (mlp), Tuesday, 14 November 2006 03:52 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm not too fond of Spinal Tap either.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Tuesday, 14 November 2006 03:57 (seventeen years ago) link

rich hall is not funnier than anyone, much

I still feel a little bit traumatized by sniglets. They were just painful in a way I'm at a loss to describe?

Beth S. (Ex Leon), Tuesday, 14 November 2006 03:58 (seventeen years ago) link

"rich hall is not funny, period."

true. he's popular in the u.k. for some inexplicable reason, no?

scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 14 November 2006 03:59 (seventeen years ago) link

when david letterman had his show on in the morning rich hall used to do the pitkinville farm report and...it wasn't very funny. and neither was the whole sniglet thing. i'm a wayne cotter fan though.

scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 14 November 2006 04:00 (seventeen years ago) link

i guess wayne cotter is the poor man's ray romano, but i think wayne might have even come first.

scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 14 November 2006 04:01 (seventeen years ago) link

Okay, Spinal Tap hate is a step too far.

I regard Sniglets as one of those things you had to accept while growing up at the time and place that I did. Like Mark Russell, aka the demon lord of hell, as we've discussed elsewhere.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 14 November 2006 04:01 (seventeen years ago) link

sniglets reminds me of the horrifying mouthsounds guy with white hair. he is still on one of the pbs shows, between the lions.

scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 14 November 2006 04:04 (seventeen years ago) link

this guy:


http://www.mouthsounds.info/images/book_02.jpg

scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 14 November 2006 04:05 (seventeen years ago) link

he is the prairie home companion guy too. i think i saw him first on that's incredible or something.


http://www.duendedrama.com/Images/newman_poster.jpg

scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 14 November 2006 04:08 (seventeen years ago) link

They're all so toothless and boring

OTM

cousin larry bundgee (bundgee), Tuesday, 14 November 2006 04:08 (seventeen years ago) link

weird, he was the star of some crazy henson show that i've never ever heard of:


http://muppet.wikia.com/images/a/a1/Puppetmancast.jpg

scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 14 November 2006 04:10 (seventeen years ago) link

wait, maybe i love fred newman:


http://www.folkalley.com/gallery/albums/phc/Fred_Newman_phc_cruise_jpeg.jpg

scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 14 November 2006 04:12 (seventeen years ago) link

Is he channeling Julia Child as a drag queen there?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 14 November 2006 04:14 (seventeen years ago) link

okay, no, i don't love him.


http://www.folkalley.com/archives/Fred-Newman.jpg

scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 14 November 2006 04:15 (seventeen years ago) link

mouthsounds is a disgusting word.

horseshoe (horseshoe), Tuesday, 14 November 2006 04:19 (seventeen years ago) link

Me and my friends used to tape sections of "Between the Lions" over parts of my brother's skinemax tape. These two women were talking about some giant dildo/alarm clock thing they had, which squeezed lube out the top. After they started, we taped Funnymouth Whitehair, who was saying, "GLOPPY! ggggllllllooo-ppy! Gloppeeeeeeey!" So now I just associate him with fake spooj.

Abbott (Abbott), Tuesday, 14 November 2006 04:21 (seventeen years ago) link

It would be interesting to see what Christopher Guest's parliamentary voting record was, but I doubt anyone can be arsed trawling through Hansard.

(I seem to remember he did take an active interest in his position, when in London, before his right to sit in the Lords was removed)

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Tuesday, 14 November 2006 08:18 (seventeen years ago) link

I remember seeing Lady Haden-Guest at some opening of parliament gig a few years ago and thinking she really looked like Jamie Lee Curtis.

I like him, seems like a nice enough fellow...

Ned T.Rifle (nedtrifle), Tuesday, 14 November 2006 11:05 (seventeen years ago) link

I seem to remember he did take an active interest in his position, when in London, before his right to sit in the Lords was removed

When IIRC he voted for the removal of his position.

aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Tuesday, 14 November 2006 11:43 (seventeen years ago) link

Rich Hall? haven't heard his name since the 70s!

Guest was a bit humorless/insufferable in recent NY Times profile.

the ensemble/cast makes his movies IMO, but then I'm an SCTV fan.

m coleman (lovebug starski), Tuesday, 14 November 2006 12:12 (seventeen years ago) link

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m coleman (lovebug starski), Tuesday, 14 November 2006 12:12 (seventeen years ago) link

Sniglets were great! I still use "thumblets" in casual conversation.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Tuesday, 14 November 2006 12:13 (seventeen years ago) link

are well-educated patrician WASPS capable of funny? discus

m coleman (lovebug starski), Tuesday, 14 November 2006 12:18 (seventeen years ago) link

"rich hall is not funny, period."
true. he's popular in the u.k. for some inexplicable reason, no?

He said in an interview once he makes a much better living in the UK because British stand-up comedy is so dreadful he looks better in comparison.

dommy p is alright WHICH IS A LOT MORE THAN I CAN SAY ABOUT A LOT OF PEOPLE (Dom, Tuesday, 14 November 2006 12:18 (seventeen years ago) link

can we change "I Love Everything"'s name to "I Gripe About Things That Have Done Me No Harm" now?

Thomas Tallis (Tommy), Tuesday, 14 November 2006 13:48 (seventeen years ago) link

i sat through that entire film thomas -- IT DID ME HARM

mark s (mark s), Tuesday, 14 November 2006 13:50 (seventeen years ago) link

Guest is pretty funny in A Few Good Men (he should've adapted and directed that, it would've saved us from Aaron Sorkin)

also, search "Overdose Heaven"

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 14 November 2006 14:07 (seventeen years ago) link

not liking 'spinal tap' is fucked up.

benrique (Enrique), Tuesday, 14 November 2006 14:14 (seventeen years ago) link

the ensemble/cast makes his movies IMO

^^^cosign

stoked for the madness (nickalicious), Tuesday, 14 November 2006 14:21 (seventeen years ago) link

rich hall is not funny, period.

hstencil, i agree, just wanted to derail the thread into a sniglet discussion

songs and ballads of the bituminous miners (sanskrit), Tuesday, 14 November 2006 14:48 (seventeen years ago) link

five years pass...

the films are long, uneven TV sketches, and the "doc" style is the suckiest thing about them.

Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 20:06 (twelve years ago) link

i've realized after rewatching all of them that this is spinal tap is the only "christopher guest" movie i really love...and it's directed by rob reiner lol

humba (NZA), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 20:08 (twelve years ago) link

oh no

wolf kabob (ENBB), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 20:13 (twelve years ago) link

hahahahaha

the "intenterface" (difficult listening hour), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 20:14 (twelve years ago) link

wikipedia's page on parker posey doesn't have a "personal life" section does that mean i might still marry her

the "intenterface" (difficult listening hour), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 20:16 (twelve years ago) link

lol @ sniglet discussion upthread

buzza, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 20:16 (twelve years ago) link

"rich hall is not funny, period."

true. he's popular in the u.k. for some inexplicable reason, no?

― scott seward (scott seward), Monday, November 13, 2006 10:59 PM (5 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Rich Hall being popular in the UK is almost as mystifying to me as that one guy from Fun Lovin' Criminals being popular there or FLC being popular there in general.

wolf kabob (ENBB), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 20:17 (twelve years ago) link

x-post - DHL you might have a shot. It's funny that I said I didn't like her much anymore yesterday as I now realize she's in three of the movies that made my ballot. I guess I just think that her schtick is kind of old at this point.

wolf kabob (ENBB), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 20:18 (twelve years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TixwF_ywN4A

buzza, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 20:20 (twelve years ago) link

i haven't seen her in anything for a long time i don't think; i will retreat to my 90s dreamworld. i was going to say in the other thread that one thing guffman has over BiS for me is that parker posey is not an evil monster in it and it is generally more fun to like parker posey (even tho mrs. busybee is a nightmare masterpiece) but then i remembered that i have no problem whatsoever with dazed and confused so never mind.

the "intenterface" (difficult listening hour), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 20:23 (twelve years ago) link

"Mouthsounds" sounds revolting.
And isn't any sound you make with your mouth a mouthsound?

MrDasher, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 20:26 (twelve years ago) link

the films are long, uneven TV sketches, and the "doc" style is the suckiest thing about them.

― Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, March 28, 2012 4:06 PM (20 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

otm

A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 20:27 (twelve years ago) link

what drives me crazy is that he's so LAZY about the style, like he never takes advantage of the 'doc mode' to do anything funny in a cinematic way, like spinal tap did. lazy!!!

A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 20:27 (twelve years ago) link

but obv that doesn't matter to 99.5% of the ppl who get yuks out of them

Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 20:29 (twelve years ago) link

those shitheads

the "intenterface" (difficult listening hour), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 20:29 (twelve years ago) link

Dr. M, I just posted my complete ballot on FB in case, you know, you want to go read something that'll most likely make you lose your lunch. ;)

wolf kabob (ENBB), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 20:30 (twelve years ago) link

but obv that doesn't matter to 99.5% of the ppl who get yuks out of them

who should pity who

less of the same (darraghmac), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 20:31 (twelve years ago) link

*sigh*

i'm so invested in hopeless causes like aesthetic beauty, goddamn me

Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 20:35 (twelve years ago) link

i don't have an opinion on ppl who like cg's films, but i do think the movies themselves can be pretty mediocre

A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 20:36 (twelve years ago) link

I don't have an opinion on ppl bcz of their artistic likes and dislikes since I figured out I didn't like most indie rock fans (c. 1990)

Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 20:39 (twelve years ago) link

lol

I just realized that Posey is in FOUR of the movies on my list, not three. That's a lot of Parker Posey.

wolf kabob (ENBB), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 20:46 (twelve years ago) link

Waiting for Guffman is still one of my favorite movies of all time. The rest have been a case of diminishing returns, all of which I wish I liked more than I do.

Cuba Pudding, Jr. (jaymc), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 20:46 (twelve years ago) link

jaymc otmfm

hot and brothered (Eric H.), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 20:47 (twelve years ago) link

Don't think Tap is especially more "cinematic" than Guffman either.

hot and brothered (Eric H.), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 20:48 (twelve years ago) link

^^ above two posters = not bastard people

wolf kabob (ENBB), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 20:48 (twelve years ago) link

ENBB is a beautifully wrapped, glossy, sweet smelling show.

hot and brothered (Eric H.), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 21:00 (twelve years ago) link

:)

The rest of ppl itt = ass-faced bastards ppl.

wolf kabob (ENBB), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 21:07 (twelve years ago) link

i remember being really bothered by that scene in guffman where dude locks himself in his bathroom and then all of the sudden we're in there with him and it made no sense how the camera got in there

A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 22:37 (twelve years ago) link

I've seen Guffman and Best in Show like a billion times each

polyphonic, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 22:39 (twelve years ago) link

i remember being really bothered by that scene in guffman where dude locks himself in his bathroom and then all of the sudden we're in there with him and it made no sense how the camera got in there

― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Wednesday, March 28, 2012 6:37 PM (33 minutes ago) Bookmark

I think it was just a fake bathroom that the movie crew built on the set but I'm not sure

dayo, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 23:13 (twelve years ago) link

good one.

A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 23:28 (twelve years ago) link

I like best in Show, but but was very underwhelmed by Guffman and Mighty Wind.

I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 23:38 (twelve years ago) link

Probably my favorite comedic filmmaker next to Albert Brooks. Whoever called him "toothless" early on must not have much ability to sense what is going on, with the possible exception of A Might Wind.

Guffman is probably my favorite, though.

filthy dylan, Thursday, 29 March 2012 02:33 (twelve years ago) link

one year passes...

anybody see his HBO thing Family Tree?

calstars, Sunday, 19 May 2013 01:20 (ten years ago) link

I was expecting it to be a B and it was B-. I don't know why this needs to be a mockumentary tbh. This show could've worked as a droll, "regular" sitcom without the "Watchout for that boom mic!" clunkiness that's the genre's staple; that and the tiresome improv energy that happens in some scenes. I'm tired of the false "That was inappropriate!" moments in comedies because a) they rarely happen in real life like they do in improv-based comedies b) when they do happen people don't react like improv actors trying to keep a scene going. If someone mentions masturbation at a dinner table full of strangers it's going to be awkward in a way that isn't "HEY-OH -- c'mon, c'mon keep the scene alive, keep it alive" improv. The hallmark of mockumentary improv acting that drives me nuts is you'll have one person acting bizarre, in a way that would get them ostracized IRL right away, but because this is improv everyone plays along, trying to *listen* and "say yes to their offer!" and all the cliches in improv that don't get extended to real life.

Guest is better than all of the people that ripped him off but there's still a bunch of devices and conventions that are exhausted. Victim of his own influence. Bring back "Cheers"

Cunga, Sunday, 19 May 2013 06:15 (ten years ago) link

The conventions of mockumentaries ensure that the pacing of the jokes is fairly slow. The humor usually requires that the characters be quirky and dense beyond all reason, but somehow seem real and recognizable. This puts a premium on a highly nuanced line delivery. Guest is ok at this, but he can't seem to get it to really take off and fly. Fred Willard and Caherine O'Hara, as noted in a post above, are true masters at it.

Aimless, Sunday, 19 May 2013 18:09 (ten years ago) link

eight years pass...

I've just noticed that Christopher Guest plays the young policeman who finds Charles Bronson after he's been shot in the leg in Central Park and is told to forget he ever saw anything it by Vincent Gardenia.

http://markmaynard.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/guestdeathwish.jpg

Wouldn't disgrace a Michael Jackson (Tom D.), Wednesday, 28 July 2021 23:03 (two years ago) link

...in Death Wish, that is.

Wouldn't disgrace a Michael Jackson (Tom D.), Wednesday, 28 July 2021 23:04 (two years ago) link

in response, Guest's policeman yelled "I hate you, and I hate your ASS FACE!"

making splashes at Dan Flashes (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 28 July 2021 23:15 (two years ago) link

He played a cop in The Hot Rock as well.

“Heroin” (ft. Bobby Gillespie) (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 28 July 2021 23:25 (two years ago) link

Didn't realize for the longest time that he was the 'strange and interesting plant' dude in Little Shop of Horrors.

Marty J. Bilge (Old Lunch), Thursday, 29 July 2021 02:15 (two years ago) link

he is the best person ever for that

making splashes at Dan Flashes (Neanderthal), Thursday, 29 July 2021 02:19 (two years ago) link


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