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Guns of August is indeed an excellent narrative history. not got to the RIP Scandinavian sock-puppet fusiliers chapter yet.
― calzino, Sunday, 11 November 2018 11:17 (five years ago) link
I was listening to someone quite bad on R4 making the observation that back in the 60's a common response was to tell WW1 veterans to stfu when the ones that weren't too shook to talk about it went into reminiscence mode.
― calzino, Sunday, 11 November 2018 11:37 (five years ago) link
Kevin Coyne wrote a song about that once...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1E_H9dBwws
― ROCK MUSIC (Tom D.), Sunday, 11 November 2018 11:43 (five years ago) link
I’m pretty lucky that I don’t live/work somewhere where I’m likely to be challenged for not adequately celebrating the awesomeness of war and pinning a shitty piece of prison slave labour-produced tat to my clothesAs a happy consequence of this I have completely forgotten World War I
― coetzee.cx (wins), Sunday, 11 November 2018 12:01 (five years ago) link
I don't know where that actually happens though, if it happens at all. I saw my first ever white poppy yesterday.
― ROCK MUSIC (Tom D.), Sunday, 11 November 2018 12:02 (five years ago) link
ban either tuomas
― unproven (darraghmac), Sunday, 11 November 2018 12:08 (five years ago) link
BREAKING: World leaders have missed the exact moment to commemorate the armistice that ended World War I.— The Associated Press (@AP) November 11, 2018
― mark s, Sunday, 11 November 2018 12:12 (five years ago) link
i mean come on
at least putin can say "pre-gregorian calender mate, no one understands that bollox"
― mark s, Sunday, 11 November 2018 12:14 (five years ago) link
You've got one thing to do and you can't even do that.
― ROCK MUSIC (Tom D.), Sunday, 11 November 2018 12:14 (five years ago) link
you had 11 11/11 job
― unproven (darraghmac), Sunday, 11 November 2018 12:17 (five years ago) link
lol
― imago, Sunday, 11 November 2018 12:22 (five years ago) link
Putin can piss off those weirdo Romanov cultists as much as he likes. though I'm not sure they gaf either tbh!
― calzino, Sunday, 11 November 2018 12:22 (five years ago) link
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DruEouKXgAIIfpj.jpg
Otto Dix otm
― calzino, Sunday, 11 November 2018 12:59 (five years ago) link
otm indeed.
― pomenitul, Sunday, 11 November 2018 12:59 (five years ago) link
Wonder if that etching was an influence on the editors who created the opening credits of the BBCs 1964 The Great War series. I watched it all during a week of deep depression in 2014, it didn't help.
― They Bunged Him in My Growler (Sanpaku), Sunday, 11 November 2018 14:32 (five years ago) link
So why is Theresa May in London today?
― pomenitul, Sunday, 11 November 2018 15:46 (five years ago) link
brexit
― mark s, Sunday, 11 November 2018 15:49 (five years ago) link
World War I, hence not all leaders in attendance are European. But I'm probably putting too much thought into this.
― pomenitul, Sunday, 11 November 2018 15:53 (five years ago) link
i thought this was one correct lesson to the very high % of usa that don't understand it this way
1. It can't be underlined enough how important the First World War is to France's national self-conception. Trump's failure to attend the memorial is a huge diplomatic insult.— Jeet Heer (@HeerJeet) November 10, 2018
― Hunt3r, Sunday, 11 November 2018 15:58 (five years ago) link
well, i didn't mean the "insult" part, i meant the scale of ww1 relative to ww2 in popular perceptions
― Hunt3r, Sunday, 11 November 2018 15:59 (five years ago) link
I was somewhat astonished to read casualty numbers in WWI vs those in WWII: overall the total number killed in the latter dwarfs the former but France was fully engaged in battle for all of WWI vs their swift surrender in WWII. Once people also understand what France went through the first time it becomes easier to understand why there was not as much drive to fight Germany to the death again (a nation that remained in the throes of a violent nationalistic sickness that one defeat wasn’t enough to cast away.)
― omar little, Sunday, 11 November 2018 16:09 (five years ago) link
I doubt trump knows a single thing about that war
― omar little, Sunday, 11 November 2018 16:10 (five years ago) link
i remember my dad at a memorial day parade in the 70s trying to explain to 5 or 6 y/o me why the (very few) wwi veterans were so important and notable because of the immensity of the great war in world history.
― Hunt3r, Sunday, 11 November 2018 16:15 (five years ago) link
His wife is Slovenian yet he still blamed the Baltic states for the crimes they committed in Yugoslavia. 'Cause it sounds just like the Balkans, duh!
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― pomenitul, Sunday, 11 November 2018 16:17 (five years ago) link
I've heard it said before that the failure of The Maginot Line and surrender of France was much more down to a widespread fatalistic malaise amongst the French military than any stroke of genius from Manstein. It might not tell the full story, but I think there is some substance to that.
― calzino, Sunday, 11 November 2018 16:19 (five years ago) link
And in France they still have 1200 square kilometres of land that is still a century later, an uninhabitable toxic wasteland. Tho I'd have let it slide if they had invaded England and done the same to Middlesbrough.
― calzino, Sunday, 11 November 2018 16:38 (five years ago) link
And in France they still have 1200 square kilometres of land that is still a century later, an uninhabitable toxic wasteland.
Remember learning about this some years back. Like a pre-nuclear Chernobyl.
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 11 November 2018 16:48 (five years ago) link
the only difference is that Chernobyl has become quite a nature reserve in some parts and you read stories of people moving back there recently. Zone Rouge is still lifeless and deadly, it's quite mindblowing really!
― calzino, Sunday, 11 November 2018 16:54 (five years ago) link
"According to the Sécurité Civile agency in charge, at the current rate no fewer than 700 more years will be needed to clean the area completely."
― calzino, Sunday, 11 November 2018 16:58 (five years ago) link
Putin RSVP'd first is my punt tbh
― nashwan, Sunday, 11 November 2018 17:04 (five years ago) link
"Remembrance Day: In pictures"
meh, no decent Up The Arse Corner contenders this year.
― calzino, Sunday, 11 November 2018 17:17 (five years ago) link
I'd have let it slide if they had invaded England and done the same to Middlesbrough
how would we tell?
― two Barongs don't make a Wight (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 11 November 2018 17:22 (five years ago) link
no such thing as "uninhabitable toxic wasteland" in Real England!
― calzino, Sunday, 11 November 2018 17:27 (five years ago) link
so this Peter Jackson doc is on bbc2 tonight and its just mindblowing seeing all this footage in high-ish def colour.
― Hmmmmm (jamiesummerz), Sunday, 11 November 2018 22:31 (five years ago) link
how is that P-Jax doc? I saw a trailer and it is really something else seeing the film transformed in this manner, hoping it's worth a view and isn't just a gimmick on which to hinge a thinly sketched statement.
― omar little, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 01:36 (five years ago) link
I thought it was very bland + heavily sentimentalised Our Boys type claptrap, and aside from the old movie stock tarted up by CGI - with absolutely nothing interesting to say and with no coherent narrative. Although I'm sure it made Tommy Robinson cry into his beer. Just basically the type of shite you'd see playing on one of the screens at the imperial war museum.
― calzino, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 10:06 (five years ago) link
Saw most of The Long Shadow repeated on BBC4 the last few weeks. That was interesting and challenging even when I was sceptical of some of the interpretations he made.
― biliares now living will never buey (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 12:36 (five years ago) link
I want a full book about this story.
I want a movie too. I want the whole damn thing.
a gay love story of the 1st world war’s year. [thread by @guillemclua im just a translator]. pic.twitter.com/I3CkgKd1EO— maaayyy. (@brendonsexual) December 7, 2018
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 00:56 (five years ago) link
Well, the chances are probably quite high..
https://guillemclua.com/comunicado-sobre-el-hilo-de-twitter-emilyxaver/
― Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 01:37 (five years ago) link
Rather!
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 01:50 (five years ago) link