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Hello readers. I've got a stumper here about printing a PDF. Here's what I want to do.

Two pages per sheet. And printing double-sided sheets. Can this be done without manually doing each one?

In the Acrobat print dialogue, I'm able to get it to do two pages per sheet. Nice. But choosing "odd numbered pages only" gives me page 1 and 3 on the first sheet. Not what I want. I want pages 1 and 2 on the first sheet, then pages 5 and 6 on the next sheet. Because I'm going to flip the whole stack of paper over at the end and print 3 and 4 on the back of the sheet with 1 and 2 on it. Makes sense, right?

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Thursday, 19 October 2006 15:17 (seventeen years ago) link

(Also, completely unrelated, is it difficult to get a PHP server running on a bog-standard IIS server?)

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Thursday, 19 October 2006 15:17 (seventeen years ago) link

I think you need to just print two pages at a time and then flip and do the rest. don't know about php server.

Sam rides the beat like a bicycle (Molly Jones), Thursday, 19 October 2006 15:19 (seventeen years ago) link

GAH it's like 80 something pages though!

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Thursday, 19 October 2006 15:20 (seventeen years ago) link

I think Adobe goes out of its way to piss me, specifically, off.

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Thursday, 19 October 2006 15:20 (seventeen years ago) link

is that something that your printer could do? it's not the same thing as odd numbered pages to the program.

Sam rides the beat like a bicycle (Molly Jones), Thursday, 19 October 2006 15:22 (seventeen years ago) link

the 'two pages per page' and the 'double sided' things are features of the printer driver here, not acrobat. and printing the backside of a double sided job without a duplex-capable printer only means turning the paper over once in the middle of the job so...

also:
http://www.adobe.com/devnet/dreamweaver/articles/php_iis.html

Koogy Yonderboy (koogs), Thursday, 19 October 2006 15:25 (seventeen years ago) link

Acrobat doesn't have that handy "Pages 1,3,5-12" option that you get with MS office stuff. Do you have the full Acrobat rather than just the reader? If so you could drag the pages around in the thumbnail view so that they are in the order you want to print, or you could simply extract all the odd pages into a separate document and print two to a page.

ONIMO's fish might turn into lizards (GerryNemo), Thursday, 19 October 2006 15:28 (seventeen years ago) link

These are good suggestions. I also found this thing, which is what I'm going to try:

http://www.iconus.ch/fabien/cocoabooklet/

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Thursday, 19 October 2006 15:32 (seventeen years ago) link

koogs the nub of my problem is that i want it to print 1-2 on same page, then 5-6 on same page, then 9-10 on same page. so that when i flip over, i can print the others on the backs of those.

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Thursday, 19 October 2006 15:45 (seventeen years ago) link

yes, that's what i do here, all the time. win2k, hp laserjets. 'print on both sides' and 'two pages per sheet' both ticked in the 'finishing' pane of the popup that comes up when i press print. (i also tick the 'flip pages up' box as i find that easier). all very system specific unfortunately.

Koogy Yonderboy (koogs), Thursday, 19 October 2006 16:33 (seventeen years ago) link

ok, new question:

have been designing cd sleeves for a friend. simple images with text overlaid. but i'm not sure of the final text and figured i'd do it in a way that he'd be able to modify the text himself. so, html. a table containing two cells, with the front and back images as backgrounds to these cells, text goes over the top. looks fine on screen, text aligned nicely and easy enough for lay-person to edit without having to worry about photoshop layers and having the same fonts etc. images are 710x710px each, 120mm square @ 150dpi. (oops, the fold's on the wrong side, nevermind)

unfortunately, when i come to print these i don't have any control over the dpi of the output and it just scales them to fit the page, makes them about 20% too big.

any suggestions?

example here btw
www.koogy.clara.co.uk/cd_cover.html

Koogy Yonderboy (koogs), Friday, 20 October 2006 12:12 (seventeen years ago) link

koogs, some browsers simply won't print CSS background images AT ALL. plus, any time you put images into a web page that aren't 72 dpi, flaky stuff seems to happen. i wish i had better answers, maybe somebody else here does.

does your friend have illustrator, or acrobat?

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Friday, 20 October 2006 12:40 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah I'm thinking the answer is not to give him him HTML files to modify. B/c of the resolution, that's not a good option for CD sleeves.

Sam rides the beat like a bicycle (Molly Jones), Friday, 20 October 2006 12:47 (seventeen years ago) link

yes, i had to enable the 'print backgrounds' thing in firefox which is off by default.

even if he has illustrator or acrobat i don't 8) i don't think he's technical at all. have done all my others just using gimp (usually they don't have any text anyway) but i know the text isn't final and wanted him to be able to change it himself.

i thought css was designed to handle more than just web layout. can find the odd thing about @page but not enough (seems to let you specify borders and margins, not absolute size. could be wrong. why doesn't google let you search for @page without removing the @?)

Koogy Yonderboy (koogs), Friday, 20 October 2006 12:53 (seventeen years ago) link

four months pass...
I think I am out of my depth. I am trying to run a program called http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=117553 on OS X 10.4 that involves installing the http://www.mono-project.com. I have downloaded and run the Mono installer, and it all seems to to be sitting fine in Library/Frameworks.

So, now I want to run MPEG Modifier. I downloaded the zipped file, which produces a folder with an file called mmcl.exe along with other uncompiled (is that the right word?) .cs files.

I know that when the whole thing is up and running I just have to type something like:

mono mmcl.exe --unpack /home/jdp/Desktop/test.avi /home/jdp/Desktop/test-new.avi

into Terminal and it will do what I want it to do but when I try that just now I get a

"Cannot open assembly mmcl.exe."

response in the Terminal window.

This didn't really surprise me, as the mmcl.exe file is just sitting in my downloads folder. Presumably I need to put it somewhere else. Have tried putting it in the Mono framework's Commands folder, because there seemed to be lots of other Unix executable files there, but no luck. Also tried putting it in my normal Applications folder.

Would ask the folk on the Doom9 board, but you need to wait 5 days after registering before you can post.

Help meee!

Alba, Monday, 26 February 2007 10:17 (seventeen years ago) link

.exe's are windows applications, it appears that you have downloaded the windows archive rather than the Mac one.

Ed, Monday, 26 February 2007 10:20 (seventeen years ago) link

Arrgh - and now to compound me computer problems I have got the new hotlinking syntax the wrong way around.

So, the program is MPEG Modifier

and the framework is Mono

Alba, Monday, 26 February 2007 10:20 (seventeen years ago) link

Ed - OK, I was thinking unix programs were also exe. It's supposed to be a Unix thing that they say can run on a Mac if you install Mono. If you have a look at that MPEG Modifier link you'll see what I mean.

Alba, Monday, 26 February 2007 10:23 (seventeen years ago) link

(maybe I have to compile those .cs files in some way??)

Alba, Monday, 26 February 2007 10:23 (seventeen years ago) link

Sorry I wasn't thinking there. mono is Open Source .net so it's programmes may be .exe. I shall have a deeper look into the links.

Ed, Monday, 26 February 2007 10:31 (seventeen years ago) link

mono's like php or java in that the 'executables' aren't executable on their own and need 'java' or 'php' in front of them.

are you in the same place as mmcl.exe?

http://www.mono-project.com/Guide:Running_Mono_Applications

koogs, Monday, 26 February 2007 10:34 (seventeen years ago) link

Are you working from the directory that mmcl.exe is stored in? i.e. did you use cd [directory path] beforehand?

Ed, Monday, 26 February 2007 10:34 (seventeen years ago) link

Ah - thanks boys. Switching to the directory with mmcl in did the trick. D'oh.

Alba, Monday, 26 February 2007 10:49 (seventeen years ago) link

Woah - and what's more that little program actually does what I hoped it would do. I've got a Philips DVD player that plays DivX files, but couldn't usually handle most things I'd downloaded off bittorrent. It would play them, but with a weird slight sluggishness/jerkiness to the playback that made them kind of unwatchable. I'd previously put it down to some problem with my TV but a new bout of Googling the problem suggested that it might be caused by the files being XVid ones that used something called "packed bitstream", which my Philips can't handle. This little program unpacks them all in minutes without having to reencode the file.

Anyway, the upshot is that I finally have an easy way to watch Lost and 24 on my TV rather than my mac. I am pleased.

Alba, Monday, 26 February 2007 11:20 (seventeen years ago) link

I shall give this a go. I think I have the same DVD player as you.

Ed, Monday, 26 February 2007 11:28 (seventeen years ago) link

You should!

Phew - I've just discovered that you can drag a file from the Finder onto the terminal window and it copies the path for you. That was going to be a real pain otherwise.

Alba, Monday, 26 February 2007 12:05 (seventeen years ago) link

How do I change my preferences in IE so that I'm continously logged on ILX? I often have to close the window at work, and apparently I get logged out every time I do that.

Tuomas, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 08:46 (seventeen years ago) link

You can't - it's in the FAQ.

Forest Pines, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 08:48 (seventeen years ago) link

There's nothing you can do about that, right now, Tuomas. A temporary thing is coming that will keep you logged in between browser shutdowns and for two hours after you last looked at the site.

Keith, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 08:49 (seventeen years ago) link

Where's the FAQ anyway? I don't see a link to it.

Tuomas, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 08:53 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm wondering about that myself, actually. I think I found it originally via the other "how can I stay logged in for eternity" thread.

Forest Pines, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 08:56 (seventeen years ago) link

FAQ

Keith, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 09:01 (seventeen years ago) link

alba/ed - which dvd player is this? i'd like to be able to burn divx for my parents (currently i have to convert to dvd, which uses lots of discs/time adnpresumably loses quality), so if it's reasonably cheap that might be the answer...

toby, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 09:09 (seventeen years ago) link

It seems that I'm logged out not only when I close the browser, but also when I visit other sites without closing the window.

Tuomas, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 09:31 (seventeen years ago) link

Toby - mine is the Philips DVP 5100, I think (not at home to check). That may have been discontinued by now but I think Philips have a rep for low cost DivX compatible players so I'm sure they have something similar.

Alba, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 09:59 (seventeen years ago) link

That sounds right, It was under £50 on amazon I think.

Ed, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 10:07 (seventeen years ago) link

three months pass...

I've got a problem with my laptop in that there is a problem with the screen. Picture below shows the logon screen. Once logged on the text appears fuzzy, however it is not like this all the time, it's an intermittent fault. At the moment I'm using it and the screen is fine, but it could come back any time.

So do I need a new screen, or is it just a dodgy connection? If so how difficult or easy would it be to fix it?

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1120/574730046_9b6332f0c7.jpg?v=0

Billy Dods, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 10:21 (sixteen years ago) link

Are you running at the native screen resolution?

Forest Pines Mk2, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 10:37 (sixteen years ago) link

(FP2 did you ever get flash working on your 64 bit linux box?
i tried this and it seems fine: http://gwenole.beauchesne.info/projects/nspluginwrapper/)

koogs, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 10:53 (sixteen years ago) link

Yes koogs - but clunkily. I installed both the mozilla-firefox and mozilla-firefox-bin packages; and I switch from one to the other whenever I want to watch Youtube or whatever. It has the side effect that I am protected from annoying Flash when I don't want it.

Forest Pines Mk2, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 10:55 (sixteen years ago) link

xxpost
Yes, I haven't changed any of the settings. I'm going to download the driver to see if that makes any difference, but as I said in my earlier post the fault is intermittent so I suspect it's a hardware problem.

Billy Dods, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 10:56 (sixteen years ago) link

hard drive question. i have two hard drives in my pc, one a boot disk with all my windows and program files on, the other a simple storage for all my documents

i turned it all off at the wall socket while i went on holiday recently, and now it won't recognise my second hard drive. I have to unplug it otherwise it takes my computer ages to boot up.

both SATA drives. is it fooked? why?

Ste, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 12:35 (sixteen years ago) link

(sorry, should have been clearer, "I have to unplug the second hard drive now from the motherboard, otherwise it takes ages to boot up")

Ste, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 12:37 (sixteen years ago) link

two months pass...

My computer died on it's arse a couple of weeks ago. Mostly fine now, but the @ and " symbols have switched around, so when I press the " key I get @ - minor, but pretty irritating. Any ideas how I can switch them back?

Anna, Thursday, 6 September 2007 12:01 (sixteen years ago) link

If you go to the control panel you can change your keyboard layout there, I think. You'll have to choose a UK layout instead of a US one. I could be wrong though. I'm sure somebody'll be along in a minute to give you the correct answer.

nate woolls, Thursday, 6 September 2007 12:08 (sixteen years ago) link

Audio CDs are occasionally prompting my PC to bring up the "autoplay" thingummy as if they are data disks, then nothing happens. Thereafter the machine refuses to recognise anything but datadisks until it is rebooted.

How to fix?

onimo, Thursday, 6 September 2007 13:04 (sixteen years ago) link

nate is correct, anna. Go into Control Panel->Regional and language settings

Ed, Thursday, 6 September 2007 13:08 (sixteen years ago) link

Holding down left shift when you insert the disc bypasses autoplay. Symptomatic treatment at best, dunno about a cure.

ledge, Thursday, 6 September 2007 13:11 (sixteen years ago) link

onimo, find your disk drive in my computer, right click and select properties. somewhere in there is the option to disable autoplay for audio cds. you can also disable it entirely if you like.

^@^, Thursday, 6 September 2007 13:22 (sixteen years ago) link

Remote Desktop doesn't just mirror what's on your work screen, it actually gives you whatever resolution you want. So if you have a larger monitor at home, you'll get more screen real estate. I have no experience using multiple monitors on the client side remotely, though.

beautifully, unapologetically plastic (mh), Wednesday, 18 September 2013 19:36 (ten years ago) link

Oh yeah, actually I have an HDMI out on my laptop and I already run it to my TV to watch movies, but it didn't occur to me that I could change the settings so the TV would be a double-wide monitor instead of a bigger version of my laptop screen. But apparently there's a windows 7 setting that lets you do that, says the internet

#fomo that's the motto (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 18 September 2013 19:46 (ten years ago) link

yeah, just turn off mirroring or w/e

beautifully, unapologetically plastic (mh), Wednesday, 18 September 2013 19:50 (ten years ago) link

How do I get this stupid appbario12 toolbar out of my system (Windows 7 Home Premium)? Uninstall is not working. I think it may be the root of other problems I've been having the past couple of days.

clemenza, Thursday, 19 September 2013 00:24 (ten years ago) link

idk but if you google "appbario12" all the results are removal instructions

beautifully, unapologetically plastic (mh), Thursday, 19 September 2013 00:25 (ten years ago) link

Tried three or four, no help. I think one of them was even a trap for more mischief.

clemenza, Thursday, 19 September 2013 00:29 (ten years ago) link

have you tried running combofix?

dynamicinterface, Thursday, 19 September 2013 03:03 (ten years ago) link

Ugh I got some stupid MyPCBackup thing on my system that only finally disappeared when I uninstalled Chrome! Every other suggestion I could find didn't work. Also manually deleted the files it put in the program files directory. It went away, but I've been meaning to log on to that laptop again and check registry entries and all that. I run Spybot S&D and Malwarebytes anti-malware usually, but this laptop also has a Norton account.

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Thursday, 19 September 2013 03:36 (ten years ago) link

Maybe I should try that--uninstall Firefox. Combofix seemed to clean up some stuff, but appbario's still there, and I still can't get my mp3 cover art back.

clemenza, Thursday, 19 September 2013 03:43 (ten years ago) link

Appbario messed with your iTunes cover art, or something else? Either way: new low for viruses/hijackers when it comes to music fans. I'd never heard of that!

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Thursday, 19 September 2013 03:45 (ten years ago) link

I don't know what caused it--it all started when I stupidly/idly accepted a download for something called "Codec Performers." Much weirdness after that, including mp3 files that all carry that ugly, generic musical note icon, instead of the cover art I wasted hours and hours chasing down. I feel stupid for caring. (It's not iTunes, just stuff I keep on the hard drive/Media Player.)

Un/reinstalled Firefox, but that didn't do anything. I think I'll just live with it until I buy something new in a year or two.

clemenza, Thursday, 19 September 2013 04:25 (ten years ago) link

one year passes...

About a year ago, I don't know why, things I typed into the address bar on Firefox no long defaulted to a Google Search page--Yahoo became the default page. Is there a way to switch this back to Google? I hate the Yahoo search pages.

clemenza, Wednesday, 19 August 2015 19:46 (eight years ago) link

go to Menu (3 horizontal lines thingy in the upper right corner), click Options, then choose 'Search' from column on left

rip van wanko, Wednesday, 19 August 2015 19:52 (eight years ago) link

Thanks--worked.

clemenza, Wednesday, 19 August 2015 20:03 (eight years ago) link

six years pass...

Any thoughts on this, if I swapped in more memory?

Basically its for office work, music and the internet.

https://www.chillblast.com/chillblast-diploma-i3-10100-slimline-office-pc.html#product-details-tab-customise

djh, Monday, 15 November 2021 20:49 (two years ago) link

Any thoughts on this, if I swapped in more memory?

Basically its for office work, music and the internet.

https://www.chillblast.com/chillblast-diploma-i3-10100-slimline-office-pc.html#product-details-tab-customise🕸


If I were in the market for a computer right now for around I’d keep an eye on the second hand Mac market. Now that M1 chip MBP’s exist everyone is rushing to upgrade and the price of some pretty powerful i7 MacBook Pro’s (15” retina etc) have plummeted to around £400 on Gumtree.

Agnes, Agatha, Germaine and Jack (Willl), Monday, 15 November 2021 21:00 (two years ago) link

Would you really see much impact in throwing more than the existing 16gb into that?

Ive not been looking for a while tbh

fix up luke shawp (darraghmac), Monday, 15 November 2021 21:15 (two years ago) link

See, this is why I have to ask basic questions on here. The person at the shop said ...

"If the default storage of 500GB is a little small for your needs, that can be customised (via the link provided) to either upgrade the 500GB Seagate BarraCuda Q5 M.2 PCIe Solid State Drive to something larger, or additional storage can be added too."

(Thanks for the answers, btw).

djh, Monday, 15 November 2021 21:27 (two years ago) link

When you say music are you talking about creating or what, exactly

Storage wise for office work and internet you arent going to fill 500gb and its def quick enough

I dont know enough about the i3 to know what would be the likeliest limiter as it is configured there between processor (128GB maximum memory suggests not tbh), storage and RAM but id guess its the RAM so if you think youll be maxing that out in your usage then another 16GB might be no harm to throw in

Thats really up to you and whether you want to spend that now, could always retain the option to do it later at negligible extra cost or effort too

fix up luke shawp (darraghmac), Monday, 15 November 2021 21:47 (two years ago) link

Storing music rather than creating.

djh, Tuesday, 16 November 2021 16:28 (two years ago) link

500GB might not go far in that case (depends on volume and quality, obv), but external 4tb drives are cheap (and you'd want a backup anyway)

koogs, Tuesday, 16 November 2021 16:49 (two years ago) link

(which several people have said now!)

koogs, Tuesday, 16 November 2021 16:49 (two years ago) link

one year passes...

I've been using the same desktop pc to make music since 2011 (fully offline, which I think really extended its lifespan), but it's starting to show its age (windows 7, 8gb Ram, processor is Intel i5 2.80 Ghz, whatever that means, etc).

Do I:

1) Upgrade this same computer? Get new more Ram, swap out some other stuff? I would have the local place that looks like the Lone Gunmen's hangout do this.

2) Better to just get a new machine?If so, where do people do this these days? Do I still just go on New Egg like I did over a decade ago? I could also talk to that local place about building something.

Gonna jump like 7 versions of DAW software too, lol.

Random Restaurateur (Jordan), Wednesday, 26 July 2023 22:07 (ten months ago) link

How about this? Would I need/want more than 16gb Ram if all I care about is running my DAW (smoothly)?

https://www.costco.com/dell-inspiron-desktop---13th-gen-intel-core-i5-13400---windows-11.product.4000139132.html

Random Restaurateur (Jordan), Friday, 28 July 2023 00:37 (ten months ago) link

....just be careful that your new daw most likely won't be able to open any of your old projects...

m0stly clean (Slowsquatch), Friday, 28 July 2023 03:37 (ten months ago) link

adding more RAM and adding an SSD are the two easiest ways to improve your old computer's performance.

if you decide to get a new machine, building a PC is easy and fun. i'd recommend doing that. newegg is kinda scammy nowadays, kinda like amazon where you need to make sure the part is shipped and sold by newegg. check out pcpartpicker. if you have a microcenter near you, check it out, i like them a lot.

, Friday, 28 July 2023 12:39 (ten months ago) link

What kind of DAW is it? A lot of people steadfastly maintain old computers/OS just because they can't abide the new version of whatever (usually adobe software). If you don't want to open up your machine, apparently you can plug in an external SSD for more swap/storage. Also, laptops have gotten bizarrely cheap relative to standalone PCs, if making music on the go is a plus.

Philip Nunez, Friday, 28 July 2023 16:44 (ten months ago) link

Cubase, lol. Hopefully I'll like the newest version but it seems pretty similar, which is a pro and a con for different people.

Thanks for the tip re: new egg, I'll check out pc part picker. After doing some more research I'm pretty set on building something.

Random Restaurateur (Jordan), Friday, 28 July 2023 17:19 (ten months ago) link

nine months pass...

I have a couple old Macbooks I need to get rid of. I'm not sure I can get them to boot, and I can't remember if the hard drives are encrypted. I basically want someone to tell me it's fine to take them to the local ewaste dropoff business, but what should I really do?

default damager (lukas), Thursday, 16 May 2024 17:52 (four weeks ago) link

Oh hm maybe I should just bring them to an Apple Store

default damager (lukas), Thursday, 16 May 2024 17:53 (four weeks ago) link

if they're ewaste anyway then might as well rip 'em open and take the hard drives out and drill through 'em a few times

the absence of bikes (f. hazel), Thursday, 16 May 2024 17:59 (four weeks ago) link

you can always use the disks as backups, you don't need to trash them if you've got a use for them (and who doesn't need more space?)

koogs, Thursday, 16 May 2024 18:13 (four weeks ago) link

Yeah I've been dreaming for years of a zfs setup where old drives just get added to the array. Sounds like work though.

default damager (lukas), Thursday, 16 May 2024 18:53 (four weeks ago) link

Yeah I've been dreaming for years of a zfs setup where old drives just get added to the array. Sounds like work though.


I don’t know exactly what this is but I want it too!!

sarahell, Thursday, 16 May 2024 19:29 (four weeks ago) link

bookmarked because i have the same issue and need a good solution

budo jeru, Thursday, 16 May 2024 21:43 (four weeks ago) link

My question: why does it look like windows defender is taking up a shit ton of memory and slowing my computer and how can I fix this

sarahell, Thursday, 16 May 2024 22:24 (four weeks ago) link

re: old macbooks -- if they don't boot outright, depending on vintage you might be able to boot them in target disk mode so you can see if you can read them from another mac.
https://support.apple.com/guide/mac-help/transfer-files-mac-computers-target-disk-mode-mchlp1443/mac

re: plug and dump, I think the old mac XServes did this -- shame they discontinued the line!

re: win defender, these guys seem to have the same issue:
https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/answers/questions/615949/windows-defender-high-memory-usage

Philip Nunez, Friday, 17 May 2024 05:06 (four weeks ago) link

I did that target mode thing once

Billion Year Polyphonic Spree (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 17 May 2024 05:09 (four weeks ago) link

three weeks pass...

This confirms all my worst suspicions about USB-C

https://www.xda-developers.com/the-state-of-usb-is-a-mess/

Alba, Monday, 10 June 2024 12:01 (five days ago) link

Can't they put a coloured dot on them or something ?

Alba, Monday, 10 June 2024 12:02 (five days ago) link

I've only glanced through the article as I am lacking in technology knowledge. But is the outlook really that pessimistic? I thought the EU is requiring a 'common charger' based on USB C from the beginning of next year that will need to meet detailed technical standards for the port itself, the power supply, and for fast charging if the charger supports it. In the EU at least, I thought it looked reasonably hopeful that you'd be able to use the same USB C charger across products.

Bob Six, Monday, 10 June 2024 12:14 (five days ago) link

if i'm understanding right, it sounds like it's a mess much like micro USB (nevermind this being a connector and not a standard, I guess?) when you care about doing anything other than charging. Any cable ought to charge your phone (albeit sometimes slowly).

maf you one two (maffew12), Monday, 10 June 2024 14:02 (five days ago) link

think the worst part is that i own a few things with usb-c ports that can only be charged if the usb-c cable is connected to a usb-a port on the other end

, Monday, 10 June 2024 14:03 (five days ago) link

Oh that's weird! Haven't come across that. That part of the charging equation is a mess for sure. In an effort to not moot everyone's existing chargers, we've got all this A to C business and not the ideal C to C? I got a phone with a C charger, that was handy. Next phone had a C to C cable and no charger.

Good luck out there

maf you one two (maffew12), Monday, 10 June 2024 14:06 (five days ago) link

Yeah, it feels like you need to check a compatibility table to figure it all out (like old Nikon lenses or smthg) but with the extra twist that the cables (esp cheaper ones) are usually completely unmarked and could be anything.

I know I can't charge my camera with A->C (only C->C) but that makes sense from a PD protocol PoV, I suppose. Found out the hard way, obv.

Michael Jones, Monday, 10 June 2024 14:11 (five days ago) link

I was just having USB-C adventures yesterday. I have a new piece of music gear that only has a USB-C port to transfer data, and I realized that all of my myriad flash drives and cables are incompatible. So I went to the husk of an Office Depot and got a USB-C flash drive, cool.

Luckily I have one USB-C port on my new desktop PC. Weirdly, I noticed that the screen would go black for a second and then come back on when I plugged the drive in, but it worked fine. But then the next time I plugged in the usb drive, it went black, the fan started spinning up, and I couldn't shut down the computer by any means except turning the power off. Next time it worked fine. Wtf.

Jordan s/t (Jordan), Monday, 10 June 2024 15:55 (five days ago) link

I wonder if your PC thought you were plugging in an external monitor? There are USB-C-powered monitors. Little tiny things. Perhaps the PC thought you were plugging in an external monitor - for some reason - and decided to switch off your main monitor. Or perhaps it had to install some drivers, and it got confused.

I have an old MOTU 828 audio interface. It uses Firewire, which was its big feature in 1999. It didn't require a PCI card. Modern Macintoshes don't have Firewire... and notice how I'm writing Firewire. Not FireWire. I've done my research! I've done my research. It's Mac mini. Mac mini. Firewire. Firewire. Thunderbolt, not ThunderBolt.

Done my research. I've done my research. I've trained myself. Two-two. Trained myself to spell millennium correctly. Two-two. Like accommodate. Two-two. I'm sorry, I'm digressing here. But I have trained myself to spell millennium correctly. I have done that. My point is that in order to use this audio interface with my 2013 Mac Pro I had to buy an official Apple Firewire->Thunderbolt adapter. For £29! For a little adapter. And now Apple no longe sells that adapter, so they're only available on eBay, for £140! I suppose I could sell mine, but I have an emotional attachment to Firewire.

See, I was a PC person in the 2000s. Which means that I was a USB person. But I was aware of Firewire. It was the interface that Apple people used with their iPods. I was vaguely aware of it. By "Apple people" I mean skinny, chic young women who wore jeans and owned iPods. Good-looking Apple people. Young, well-off Apple people. Healthy, good-looking Apple people. People who were outside my league.

And like so many things in life I didn't get to experience Firewire until it no longer had any meaning. Apple stopped including it on their computers circa 2012. I didn't become an Apple person until several years after that. And so I sit here surrounded by Firewire peripherals, using them, and it's just meaningless and I don't feel anything any more. Curse you, Firewire. You demon. You wound my heart with a monotonous langour. No other digital interface hurts me this way.

Ashley Pomeroy, Monday, 10 June 2024 18:39 (five days ago) link

jordan it may even be trying to boot or find a power source from that usb c port, i had a similar issue with a hub i got

changing boot order seemed to sort it

close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Tuesday, 11 June 2024 07:41 (four days ago) link


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