anyone seen SEVERANCE yet?

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British Horror/Comedy. I found it not unentertaining but quite difficult to watch. It's not exactly black humour because the laughs are goofy/gross out but the comedy rubs against the Saw/Hostel-style grim thriller background and either it works or it doesn't. I found myself completely unsure whether to get ready to laugh or to shudder and so ended in a constant state of poise throughout the whole film. I thought the premise of the whole thing was a little weak though.

wogan lenin (dog latin), Monday, 18 September 2006 10:43 (fifteen years ago) link

I really want to see this, even though I wasn't nuts about the director's last film, "Creep" (which was also his debut). I loved 'The Descent' enough to deem it a new British Horror Movement in and of itself, so I have high hopes that I can add this to my argument. Looks like it's only in a couple theaters still in London, though - like some Odeon in Leicester Square with a 9:10pm show only and stuff like that. Better hurry, I guess.

Tiki Theater Xymposium (Bent Over at the Arclight), Monday, 18 September 2006 15:34 (fifteen years ago) link

I've seen it, its okay.

Mantraps = classic

Arms dealers sales reps as victims = classic

Jarlr'mai (jarlrmai), Monday, 18 September 2006 15:45 (fifteen years ago) link

one year passes...

saw this last night and i thought it was great. manages to keep one foot in comedy and the other in horror throughout, which is impressive given the levels of gore/unpleasantness.

still killing me: the diving board scene and follow up

if i was from eastern europe, not sure i would really be pleased with the new western preoccupation with making them the new locational horror stand-in for scary unfamiliar frontier, though. (this, Hostel, etc.)

John Justen, Wednesday, 28 November 2007 19:49 (fourteen years ago) link

fourteen years pass...

Can I hijack this thread to talk about the new Apple TV + show? Pretty intriguing mix of Black Mirror, Wayward Pines and Parks & Rec?

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Tuesday, 22 February 2022 21:12 (three months ago) link

Only found out recently about the real life crime inspired by the Brit movie

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/norfolk/8022946.stm

Ward Fowler, Tuesday, 22 February 2022 21:17 (three months ago) link

I'm enjoying it so far, especially simply to look at. I like how the era is indeterminate, the computers suggest 1970s but the houses are entirely modern.

I feel like so much of the design of the corporation is based on a mix of the Clavius base from 2001, especially the deleted part with the kids playing in a rec room, and mid-century modern.

Maresn3st, Tuesday, 22 February 2022 21:29 (three months ago) link

Usually a good move to have retro computer screens for various reasons.

Solaris Ocean Blue (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 22 February 2022 21:32 (three months ago) link

Poor Adam Scott looks so defeated in it, I also enjoy how he somehow looks like a Garry Trudeau character.

Maresn3st, Tuesday, 22 February 2022 21:41 (three months ago) link

Ha, good point.

Solaris Ocean Blue (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 22 February 2022 21:49 (three months ago) link

Third episode is here.

Solaris Ocean Blue (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 26 February 2022 00:49 (two months ago) link

I’m into the show. Kind of worried it won’t stick the landing but the ride is a good weird time. John Turturro is excellent in a supporting role.

na (NA), Friday, 4 March 2022 04:00 (two months ago) link

Yes, he is.

Gary Gets His Tonsure Out (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 4 March 2022 04:08 (two months ago) link

This show reeks of THX-1138 to me, especially the visuals. Not sure how on board I am.

assert (matttkkkk), Friday, 4 March 2022 04:24 (two months ago) link

I love this show SO much

Stiller is so good at noticing all the dumb mundane bullshit in daily life & making hilarious, scary or just weird & i love it

everyone is great. intro credits freak me out.

i loved the awkward dinner party in the first episode - all that stuff like it was impolite to call ww1 anything but the great war, lol bc ww2 hadnt happened yet & the weird oohs and ahhs around the table

the CONFERENCE CALL in episode 3. where she has to speak but doesnt get to hear the board’s responses bc theyre filtered to her through a functionary with more juice than she has. incredibly perfect.

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 4 March 2022 04:49 (two months ago) link

i'm just going to assume that Michael Chernus's character being named Rickon is a reference to him being Cool Rick in my beloved Patriot

na (NA), Friday, 4 March 2022 15:52 (two months ago) link

Oh yeah, PATRIOT. Keep meaning to watch that.

Gary Gets His Tonsure Out (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 4 March 2022 23:18 (two months ago) link

Does it bother anyone else that they never seem to do any work? I know it's implied but idk

Maresn3st, Friday, 4 March 2022 23:28 (two months ago) link

No.

Gary Gets His Tonsure Out (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 4 March 2022 23:30 (two months ago) link

it's a corollary to them not remembering the work day. when you're actually at work, you only remember hallway conversations and getting coffee

mh, Friday, 4 March 2022 23:40 (two months ago) link

Petey is probably the best super-distressed and disheveled character since William Windom’s Commodore Matt Decker in the “Doomsday Machine” episode of Star Trek: TOS.

Gary Gets His Tonsure Out (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 5 March 2022 00:28 (two months ago) link

otm

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 5 March 2022 01:20 (two months ago) link

Ben Stiller a pretty big Star Trek head so not out of the question he was channeling that somehow.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpVOEp3HMjc

Gary Gets His Tonsure Out (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 5 March 2022 02:25 (two months ago) link

Does it bother anyone else that they never seem to do any work? I know it's implied but idk

A show about office work where they actually just do work. Genius

calstars, Saturday, 5 March 2022 03:02 (two months ago) link

Loving the increasingly cultish vibe at the office but dreading the inevitable moment this show becomes all about Mark joining the underground resistance.

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Saturday, 5 March 2022 07:51 (two months ago) link

agree but it is so far handling getting there well, dig the pacing & minimalist vibe

johnny crunch, Monday, 7 March 2022 16:02 (two months ago) link

hate this show so much, there i said it

Tracer Hand, Monday, 7 March 2022 16:13 (two months ago) link

hey, someone has to

I liked the setup, not sure how I'm feeling about the progression so far. The little office world and the cast of bizarre characters is kind of charming, but it's not quite pulling me in and I feel like it needs to start going... somewhere.. soon

mh, Monday, 7 March 2022 16:15 (two months ago) link

Turturro and Walken playing weird dudes that are kind of vibing about the art in their brainwipe prison

mh, Monday, 7 March 2022 16:16 (two months ago) link

Does it bother anyone else that they never seem to do any work? I know it's implied but idk

I assume that the "work" is only an excuse to keep running this experiment. That said, I am finding it all a bit Wes-Anderson-does-dystopian. A lot of whimsy, not a lot of real substance.

trishyb, Monday, 7 March 2022 16:19 (two months ago) link

the show's kind of reminding me of that amazon one, Homecoming

mh, Monday, 7 March 2022 16:24 (two months ago) link

I hate Ricken so much

Maresn3st, Friday, 11 March 2022 15:32 (two months ago) link

Petey’s cellphone has hella battery life

Mardi Gras Mambo Sun (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 18 March 2022 17:48 (two months ago) link

I love Ricken. That actor's played some ridiculous characters in the same vein and I get why that type of guy drives people nuts, but I enjoy that on screen

mh, Friday, 18 March 2022 20:48 (two months ago) link

tbh I don't really see how you have the show without a Ricken-type character.

Mardi Gras Mambo Sun (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 18 March 2022 20:56 (two months ago) link

ricken is so hilarious to me, i love him. feels like there is a lot of Stiller’s humor in that character specifically. like, idk, literary Zoolander. he’s SO oblivious

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 18 March 2022 22:19 (two months ago) link

I can also imagine that writing that book must have been great fun.
I'm enjoying this show more as it goes along. I thought in the beginning that it was boring and I didn't like it, but I've got into its pace now.

trishyb, Saturday, 19 March 2022 09:39 (two months ago) link

I was surprised to discover that there are only two episodes left in the season

Maresn3st, Saturday, 19 March 2022 10:25 (two months ago) link

that passage from Ricken’s book about “camaraderie” being based on the word “camera” nearly killed me

mh, Saturday, 19 March 2022 15:16 (two months ago) link

A lot of these shows seem to have only eight episodes per season.

Mardi Gras Mambo Sun (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 19 March 2022 15:18 (two months ago) link

xpost omg yes we were dying

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 19 March 2022 15:20 (two months ago) link

A lot of these shows seem to have only eight episodes per season.

Yeah, it feels like an artistic decision that will turn out to have some business reason behind it, like eight episodes doesn't count as a full union season, so everyone's salaries don't automatically increase at the start of the next season, or something like that.

trishyb, Saturday, 19 March 2022 15:25 (two months ago) link

Seems clear that the season will end with Mark joining the resistance and with few questions resolved

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Saturday, 19 March 2022 20:04 (two months ago) link

Hard to argue with.

Mardi Gras Mambo Sun (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 19 March 2022 20:11 (two months ago) link

Although I do think we will probably get a few more reveals about people's, um, Outies.

Mardi Gras Mambo Sun (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 19 March 2022 20:12 (two months ago) link

This is fun, and thanks for the recommendation -- I wouldn't have noticed it without reading this thread.

I'm watching it during covid isolation - which feels a litle on the nose

Only seen three episodes - central cast is terrific. So far, the comic tone feels like it undercuts the dramatic tnsion - but maybe that'll change. And there's too much resting on the mystery denoument.

But it rules as My Little Isolation Show and everyone's lovely company (so far)

Chuck_Tatum, Sunday, 20 March 2022 15:27 (two months ago) link

New episode is up. Never sure what time it actually drops. At one point I was getting alerts for certain shows.

Mardi Gras Mambo Sun (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 25 March 2022 02:58 (one month ago) link

Tell you one thing: I really dig Patricia Arquette’s nosy neighbor routine despite myself.

Mardi Gras Mambo Sun (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 25 March 2022 04:03 (one month ago) link

Spook too soon maybe

Mardi Gras Mambo Sun (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 25 March 2022 04:15 (one month ago) link

A lot of these shows seem to have only eight episodes per season.

This one has nine.

Loved the reveal at the end of this episode (although was expecting something along those lines but maybe a different character)

Renewed for season two too

groovypanda, Tuesday, 29 March 2022 07:40 (one month ago) link

Hahaha I had the same thought!

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Tuesday, 19 April 2022 09:53 (one month ago) link

Yes Mark S has taken on a Kafkaesque ring since watching this show. All the shrines to a mysterious leader called Kier also prompted some lols.

The combination of dystopic bureaucratic discourse + self-help shtick reminded me a lot of George Saunders' Civilwarland in Bad Decline? Mark's bro in law felt like he belonged in another show really. That marriage was possibly the least plausible thing about the whole thing.

Watched the last four episodes on Friday, but my Plex autoplayed and for some reason skipped e07, so felt like I had my own severance moment for a while there.

Piedie Gimbel, Tuesday, 19 April 2022 11:04 (one month ago) link

100% on the George Saunders vibe

Chuck_Tatum, Tuesday, 19 April 2022 13:34 (one month ago) link

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mookieproof, Tuesday, 19 April 2022 21:01 (one month ago) link

Lol!

Wile E. Kinbote (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 19 April 2022 21:04 (one month ago) link

haha britt lower def does give off jenny lewis vibes

in places all over the world, real stuff be happening (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 19 April 2022 21:06 (one month ago) link

i keep wanting to push dylan’s glasses back up

any two-handed task leads to that level of precarity within 11 seconds, ime. Dylan knew what he was volunteering for.

sloop johnnin' skater (geoffreyess), Thursday, 21 April 2022 03:29 (one month ago) link

Yup

Wile E. Kinbote (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 21 April 2022 04:29 (one month ago) link

Best show this year, so far. I wonder how much the writers have planned ahead, I really don't know where it would go next season

Vinnie, Friday, 22 April 2022 06:14 (one month ago) link

haha britt lower def does give off jenny lewis vibes

her face reminds me a lot of Lena Headey's

Vinnie, Friday, 22 April 2022 06:15 (one month ago) link

The creator says the show is meant to run 3 seasons, so I figure he has a story planned out

Chappies banging dustbin lids together (President Keyes), Friday, 22 April 2022 12:06 (one month ago) link

Good to hear, I don't want this show to go too LOST

Vinnie, Friday, 22 April 2022 12:59 (one month ago) link

Yeah, they've set it up so that they could pretty easily undo all of the progress of the last episode and start over again from square one, or have the whole show be upended, or anything in between. Very curious how they will handle it.

justfanoe (Greg Fanoe), Friday, 22 April 2022 13:13 (one month ago) link

^yes to all of this

Wile E. Kinbote (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 22 April 2022 13:37 (one month ago) link

It's hard to imagine Helly's outie letting her go back to the office. In fact, it's hard to imagine the innies not being wiped or something now that they've seen too much.

Chappies banging dustbin lids together (President Keyes), Friday, 22 April 2022 13:54 (one month ago) link

Yes, this is what I have been thinking. Unless...

Wile E. Kinbote (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 22 April 2022 14:11 (one month ago) link

It is hard to figure out how they haven't reached a narrative dead end, sort of where The Good Place went during the second season, where a return to the status quo doesn't make narrative sense, but going too far from the status quo could make the series lose the specific intrigues that make it interesting.

On the other hand it could all be fine! And I hope it well be. Aside from all the puzzlebox mystery shows that lost their way, there's still The Leftovers, which basically aced it all the way through to the finale.

Chuck_Tatum, Friday, 22 April 2022 20:45 (one month ago) link

And I'm still thinking about the finale! It wouldn't work as a discrete hour of television, but it's got to be the most enjoyable single episodes of television I've watched in a long, long time. Totally Reaganing.

Chuck_Tatum, Friday, 22 April 2022 20:47 (one month ago) link

Yes, finale was excellent. Still thinking one way they could play it is that the whole thing was some kind of mega-experiment, allowing them to read Ricken's book and then to escape to See What They Would Do and the Whole Town Is In On It so they all just get put back in the box next season but then that would sort of be a copout, so I dunno. *scratches head*

Granny Takes a Tripos (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 22 April 2022 20:51 (one month ago) link

I watched the final three in a row, so I may have missed something, but I feel like the most clearly dangling thread to pick up in the next season is the Lumon chip doctor, who iirc never reappeared after meeting with Mark and killing the security guy. So an obvs way to not just wipe the innies would be to have them reintegrated

rob, Friday, 22 April 2022 21:03 (one month ago) link

Yes, pondering that too.

Granny Takes a Tripos (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 22 April 2022 21:09 (one month ago) link

Yes. Alternatively Lumon could just reset their chips so their innies would be back to ignorant bliss.

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Saturday, 23 April 2022 07:21 (four weeks ago) link

or they could reset *us* and show the same season to a fresh audience

assert (matttkkkk), Saturday, 23 April 2022 10:14 (four weeks ago) link

So after watching Severance, I started reading Piranesi by Susanna Clarke and am struck by many similarities, starting with the labyrinthine setting and making of notes, among other things - anyone else?

kinder, Saturday, 23 April 2022 19:27 (four weeks ago) link

Yes!

trishyb, Sunday, 24 April 2022 01:23 (four weeks ago) link

Right? (Hidden spoilers are for the book) plus the inside/outside knowledge/memory of oneself and trying to cross the worlds, the question of whether you want to, the 'work' in Severance maybe being similar to the 'Secret Knowledge' in Piranesi, who is trustworthy. Possibly getting people inside by nefarious means. Dunno what the equivalent of the waffle party would be though...

Really curious as to whether Piranesi had any influence at all over Severance? I might not have put the two together if I hadn't read/watched in quick succession.

kinder, Sunday, 24 April 2022 13:08 (four weeks ago) link

I'm reading that the Backrooms horror meme had a bit of influence over Severance and, in particular, folks talking about this 16-year-old's series of videos, but the first one went up 3 months ago so it can't be true. They're pretty good though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4dGpz6cnHo

Maresn3st, Sunday, 24 April 2022 15:37 (four weeks ago) link

I have little interest in most dystopian stories but gave Severance a try anyway. I was immediately hooked by the opening scene's conference room as prison cell and absurdist corporate survey. And how Helly responded with the fury it all deserves from any sane person. Later scenes of doublespeak and goofy dancing, though entertaining, haven't been quite so on target.

I guess I've kept watching for the mystery and the puzzle aspect, although it's hard to really care what evil mechanics of Lumon turn out to be revealed. What matters more is the tone and the characters.

It is a relief to follow a series with a relatively small cast of characters you don't need to struggle to keep track of.

Tubesocks Secure (punning display), Sunday, 24 April 2022 18:13 (four weeks ago) link

Every time I see this thread I think about Ecks vs. Sever.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Sunday, 24 April 2022 18:36 (four weeks ago) link

I thought this was really excellent. Some of the scenes were so formally perfect, if plucked from a 70s Italian auteur work they would be taught in film courses.

The "it's a lab experiment" theory faded somewhat by the end of the season; if it is an experiment then I think it's a Prison Experiment variant where the supervisors (Cobel, Milchik) are not in on it but also subjects. Given where the season ended up though, I think the purpose of the innies' work is just to demonstrate the viability of the severance technology, which Lumon wants to make mainstream. The work is mysterious but probably not important.

I liked how the innies were the central characters and the outies mainly rounded out their stories, kind of a reversal of how the outies would feel about themselves.

TWELVE Michelob stars?!? (seandalai), Saturday, 30 April 2022 23:58 (three weeks ago) link

Waffle party is objectively the worst party, egg dish social is seriously underrated (though what was with the purple eggs?)

TWELVE Michelob stars?!? (seandalai), Sunday, 1 May 2022 00:07 (three weeks ago) link

Xp Stanford Prison experiment appears to have been quite different than it appears in the public semi cosciousness. I heard a couple of pretty good podcasts on it last year. You're Wrong About was one I think.
So was more 2 sides being aware of situation than double blind. Just misreported.

Stevolende, Sunday, 1 May 2022 08:08 (three weeks ago) link

Just discovered Apple's spin-off ebook thing: https://books.apple.com/us/book/severance/id1613220757

stet, Friday, 6 May 2022 13:10 (two weeks ago) link

the implications of the severing can get really dark really quickly; my mind immediately thought about evil people using the procedure to force people (women mostly) into sex slavery. but the idea that they can turn you on and off whenever is also pretty wild, suggesting that they could "kill" either half of you whenever they wanted.

― ian, Saturday, April 2, 2022 8:31 AM (one month ago)

This brought me back to Gibson's Neuromancer and the "puppets" who were essentially prostitutes who turned "off" when they were servicing johns. I was discussing the show's core concept with my mother (before she's seen it) and she immediately went to how people running the concentration camps in WW2 would probably benefit from it.

Definitely not a new concept, and one that only seems to truly benefit a society with a lot of ills we want to "wish away" with a mere symptomatic fix rather than a systemic one.

octobeard, Monday, 9 May 2022 20:50 (one week ago) link

I'm glad more and more people seem to be watching this, but I wish Tramell Tillman's amazing supporting role was a bigger part of that conversation (unless I'm missing something)

Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 9 May 2022 21:42 (one week ago) link

That did have a big moment on this thread, although probably easy to scroll past what with all the other posting.

Don't Renege On (Our Dub) (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 9 May 2022 21:48 (one week ago) link

Oh I didn't mean here particuarly, just in general online whatnot

Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 9 May 2022 21:50 (one week ago) link

Oh, okay. I don't think it's going out on a limb to say his peformance is key to the whole thing.

Don't Renege On (Our Dub) (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 9 May 2022 21:53 (one week ago) link

I think he has probably getting noticed by people who cast shows and films. There were a few articles calling him the breakout star of the show.

Chappies banging dustbin lids together (President Keyes), Monday, 9 May 2022 23:01 (one week ago) link

tillman fit in well with the 1970s vibe of the innie world. none of the other lumon bosses fit in so well.

adam t. (abanana), Monday, 9 May 2022 23:04 (one week ago) link

they needed mustaches too

mookieproof, Monday, 9 May 2022 23:06 (one week ago) link

Walken did well with a being in his 70s vibe

Chappies banging dustbin lids together (President Keyes), Monday, 9 May 2022 23:09 (one week ago) link

tillman fit in well with the 1970s vibe of the innie world. none of the other lumon bosses fit in so well.

Right. But he’s kind of not an officer, more of a sergeant, and the way he (Tramell Tillman) dealt with that is what made his performance so interesting.

Don't Renege On (Our Dub) (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 9 May 2022 23:13 (one week ago) link

the point where he started dancing was a real "this guy can do... anything!" moment

Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 9 May 2022 23:47 (one week ago) link

Ha, yes, exactly.

Don't Renege On (Our Dub) (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 10 May 2022 00:19 (one week ago) link

I'm just reading the book Soldaten which is based around a load of tapes of German POWs from he 2nd World War being transcribed. So it shows a lot of casual conversation caught unconsciously. & shows what the epistemology of those involved. Some horrific stuff about attitudes toward Jews and other civilians.
Interesting parallel to what appears to be being depicted here.

Stevolende, Tuesday, 10 May 2022 10:50 (one week ago) link

Just finished this, incredible. Fantastic concept, couldn't stop thinking about it, what it would be like to be severed, imagining spending 24 hours a day seven days a week awake in an office, never sleeping, never leaving, feeling mysteriously refreshed every 8 hours, and whether your outie having all the sleep and leisure time would truly be enough to offset that psychological insanity. When my wife said after ep 3 that she was thinking about the show I said 'you mean what it would be like to be severed?' and she said no i don't think about things that couldn't happen, lol.

Loved the bit in the first episode where Helly tries to leave and some mysterious force pushes her back - it seemed a bit supernatural and not what I was expecting from the show, till the penny dropped and I realised the mysterious force was her own - or her outie's - agency choosing to walk back through the door, but which she has no memory of. And then we see it from the other side in ep 2.

So much humour, lots noted upthread already - Burt's leaving speech video, 'the latin for camera' (and everything else in Ricken's book or said by Ricken - the kid's beds!), 'It was me, I found her!'.

Mark's listing the reasons his wife was extraordinary ('My wife liked other people's dogs. My wife thought cardigans looked ridiculous.') sounded just like a Wellness session.

Haven't seen any mention upthread of continuity errors/'errors' (?) - the most obvious was the blood on Milchick's arm disappeared when he walked out the door; my wife said she'd noticed some others.

That last episode, where they were supposed to be doing THE MISSION to TELL EVERYONE and yet Mark kept getting delayed by everything, like some neverending dream / The Unconsoled.

Wow, my favourite book but I hadn't noticed this similarity! That was so tense, I kept on yelling 'Mark for God's sake just start talking!'

My theory, which stands up to zero scrutiny, is that the severed floor is literally, not figuratively, hell.

buffalo tomozzarella (ledge), Tuesday, 17 May 2022 08:30 (five days ago) link

People would really like that

Chappies banging dustbin lids together (President Keyes), Wednesday, 18 May 2022 01:23 (four days ago) link


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