"Sarah Connor? C'est Moi!"
― Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 24 March 2009 18:18 (fifteen years ago) link
I dunno how suited Flaubert would be for today, but I can almost guarantee he'd direct a better Terminator than this McG fellow.
― Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 24 March 2009 18:19 (fifteen years ago) link
sorry but i am one of those "spectrum of human experience" saddoes who demands a range of feeling in a movie
― moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 24 March 2009 18:20 (fifteen years ago) link
this has a range of feeling!
like when SPOILER gets iced.
― FREE DOM AND ETHAN (special guest stars mark bronson), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 18:20 (fifteen years ago) link
are ppl even arguing about the same things here
― the call of the taint (HI DERE), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 18:21 (fifteen years ago) link
there is a range of feeling in cotm - there is a lot of melancholy, regret and humour in it besides the ultra-engaging set pieces
― s1ocki, Tuesday, 24 March 2009 18:21 (fifteen years ago) link
keepin it eclectic
― Hard House SugBanton (blueski), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 18:21 (fifteen years ago) link
xxp i don't think so but ilx isn't too exciting today.
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 24 March 2009 18:22 (fifteen years ago) link
and ya the build up to the "icing" in the car, the ping pong ball sequence, i mean stuff like that sets this movie apart from what you're describing
― s1ocki, Tuesday, 24 March 2009 18:22 (fifteen years ago) link
it's a really short movie too, so extra points for that.
― FREE DOM AND ETHAN (special guest stars mark bronson), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 18:23 (fifteen years ago) link
the ending of the terminator is much more satisfying than the ending of a simple heart
― 鬼の手 (Edward III), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 18:24 (fifteen years ago) link
It's damn sure better than Bouvard et Pecuchet.
― The Screaming Lobster of Challops (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 18:27 (fifteen years ago) link
maybe downbeat dystopian sci-fi is just not for you?
― 鬼の手 (Edward III), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 18:28 (fifteen years ago) link
"blade runner", "thx-1138" and every episode of "the outer limits" have more humanity than this one
― moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 24 March 2009 18:32 (fifteen years ago) link
bouvard et pechuchet is a sorely underrated classic
"thx-1138" has the best sex scene in all of modern cinema
― moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 24 March 2009 18:33 (fifteen years ago) link
ha you're on crack re: "The Outer Limits"
xp: and now I will never see "THX-1138"
― the call of the taint (HI DERE), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 18:33 (fifteen years ago) link
i think that contention deserves its own thread
― Stop relegating Hull you miserable gits! (country matters), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 18:34 (fifteen years ago) link
you're telling me that blade runner, one of the most successful and critically acclaimed sci-fi films of all time, is superior to this movie? quit blowing my mind dude
― s1ocki, Tuesday, 24 March 2009 18:36 (fifteen years ago) link
on the other hand, I don't see how blade runner has any more or less range of feeling than children of god, in fact I suspect the movie itself was directed by a replicant
― 鬼の手 (Edward III), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 18:37 (fifteen years ago) link
i saw it years ago but blade runner seemed really obtuse and boring. i suppose i owe it another look.
i do like thx a lot.
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 24 March 2009 18:38 (fifteen years ago) link
no but seriously, like i said above, there are a lot of really well-done emotional beats in this movie - just because there's also some loud noises doesn't cancel them out
― s1ocki, Tuesday, 24 March 2009 18:39 (fifteen years ago) link
it sort of did for me, i guess we can call that wussing out?
― moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 24 March 2009 18:40 (fifteen years ago) link
s1ocki i hear you too but that sounds sorta like the apologist defense of irreversible
― moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 24 March 2009 18:41 (fifteen years ago) link
nah the apologist defence of that movie is that it rules
― Stop relegating Hull you miserable gits! (country matters), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 18:44 (fifteen years ago) link
"the ending of the terminator is much more satisfying than the ending of a simple heart"
Don't they both die at the end?
― Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 24 March 2009 18:46 (fifteen years ago) link
that's one way of looking at it. another way is the parrot lives forever and so does the T-1000.
― 鬼の手 (Edward III), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 18:47 (fifteen years ago) link
however, I didn't throw the TV across the room when I was finished watching the terminator
― 鬼の手 (Edward III), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 18:48 (fifteen years ago) link
I am picturing the parrot frozen and shot to pieces, then writhing in industrial lava.
― Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 24 March 2009 18:52 (fifteen years ago) link
I didn't like this movie. I don't really care for "visceral" action scenes and the treacle of the trailer is a pretty accurate represention of the sentiment of the movie. It kinda cruises along on anxiety/fear and a hushed awe for the miracle of human life. It's really not very radical in any way. Standard liberal humanism right? What's to get excited about.
― ryan, Tuesday, 24 March 2009 18:53 (fifteen years ago) link
you're thinking of a simple heart II
xpost
― 鬼の手 (Edward III), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 18:53 (fifteen years ago) link
I often find it amazing how a messageboard titled "I Love Everything" can find so many ways to make me want to hate everything.
― the call of the taint (HI DERE), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 18:54 (fifteen years ago) link
It's really not very radical in any way.
who cares?
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 24 March 2009 18:54 (fifteen years ago) link
I do!
― ryan, Tuesday, 24 March 2009 18:56 (fifteen years ago) link
HI DERE wins. Lock ILX.
― legendary North American forest ape (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 18:56 (fifteen years ago) link
how did anyone ever mistake you for a cineaste?
― Past a Diving Jeter (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 18:57 (fifteen years ago) link
I picture ryan filtering out of the theatre muttering under his breath "that was not at all radical..."
― 鬼の手 (Edward III), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 18:57 (fifteen years ago) link
looooooooooooooool morbs
― Stop relegating Hull you miserable gits! (country matters), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 18:58 (fifteen years ago) link
Haha! Well I should stress I enjoyed it ok. I just get riled up by "movie of the decade talk" so I nitpick.
― ryan, Tuesday, 24 March 2009 18:59 (fifteen years ago) link
that's okay, I also picture morbz in the lobby, facing the exiting the crowd, yelling the same thing like howard beale
― 鬼の手 (Edward III), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 18:59 (fifteen years ago) link
I think ryan's disappointment is a reaction to ILE doing the batshit-overpraise thing when anything of some quality appears in the multiplex that everyone can talk about instead of Haha Awful Nicolas Cage Movie So Grebt & Well Worth $11.
― Past a Diving Jeter (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 19:03 (fifteen years ago) link
I thought this movie was anti-abortion or something? Sort of right-wing Christian fantasy except for the Virgin Mary being black and not a virgin.
― Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 24 March 2009 19:04 (fifteen years ago) link
no.
but you shouldn't get riled up by "movie of the decade talk" in a decade as shitty as this one.
― Past a Diving Jeter (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 19:04 (fifteen years ago) link
god forbid that ppl who enjoy something say they enjoy it, what is this world coming to
― the call of the taint (HI DERE), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 19:06 (fifteen years ago) link
if there was only one pregnant woman left in the entire world I might get all anti-abortion too but it's not like I left the theater and went to go bomb a clinic
― 鬼の手 (Edward III), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 19:06 (fifteen years ago) link
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS xp
― Past a Diving Jeter (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 24 March 2009 19:07 (fifteen years ago) link
but morbs, if it's been such a shitty decade are we not allowed to get psyched when something with half a brain comes to the multiplex?
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 24 March 2009 19:09 (fifteen years ago) link
really not sure what you're talking about dude. CoM has a huge range. as s1ocki says upthread, there's a lot of humor, melancholy, joy in this. the whole michael caine character, "strawberry cough" pot, the ping pong joke, theo making the activist dude buy him 3 pints at the bar in exchange for travel visa. the friendship between caine's character & owens was great. lots of great scenes of melancholy, quiet sadness - the abandoned school, caine giving his wife and dog the suicide drug. all this shit made the action sequences 100x more intense b/c unlike so many other war/action-drama movies i actually gave a shit about the characters
― mark cl, Tuesday, 24 March 2009 19:10 (fifteen years ago) link
see that stuff didn't stick with me, except the abandoned school. the violence is just so OTT that it obliterated the rest of the movie in my memory.
― moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 24 March 2009 19:11 (fifteen years ago) link
really, though, s1ocki nailed it. it's a great movie and i'm an awful wuss.