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This one's a real pain in the arse. Most recent example: I want to look at the live scores page, but firefox for some reason sizes the window far smaller than it should be (kinda credit-card sized) and it can't be resized. There aren't even any scroll bars. Is there any way of making this work without resorting to internet explorer?

Earwig oh! (Mark C), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 12:08 (fourteen years ago) link

E-mailing and telling them to step up their web game.

David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 12:17 (fourteen years ago) link

Is this the only site that does that?

Miss Misery xox (MissMiseryTX), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 12:17 (fourteen years ago) link

Nope - another example is The Guardian's over-by-over cricket coverage - you can get it in a sneaky little one-para-at-a-time window for boss-fooling purposes but that does the same thing.

Earwig oh! (Mark C), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 12:21 (fourteen years ago) link

to me it sounds more likely to be a virus.

Miss Misery xox (MissMiseryTX), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 12:36 (fourteen years ago) link

Its crap site testing. The guardian OBO never used to work on Safari, but it appears to have been fixed now.

Ed (dali), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 12:38 (fourteen years ago) link

Hotmail doesn't work properly in Firefox either, but that's not particularly surprising.

Colonel Poo (Colonel Poo), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 12:56 (fourteen years ago) link

you get what you pay for

Werner Herzog Netflix Quine (ex machina), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 15:51 (fourteen years ago) link

looks fine on mine mark. not much help i admit.

koogy wonderland (koogs), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 15:57 (fourteen years ago) link

any good? it's the non-flash version

koogy wonderland (koogs), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 15:59 (fourteen years ago) link

Looks fine on mine too (Firefox for OS X).

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 16:54 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah fine on XP too.

I've had something weird on FF at home happen a couple of times. New tabs will just start opening - I mean like a hundred and I have to shut down. I think that's probably definitely a virus.

Miss Misery xox (MissMiseryTX), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 17:05 (fourteen years ago) link

had a not-so-quick look through the source to see what it was going and it ended up as the usual call with a hard-coded (rather than computed) window size (exactly the right size for the embedded shockwave widget) and a url too long and with too many arguments to fathom (time in seconds, requesting url, language, match number etc).

koogy wonderland (koogs), Wednesday, 28 June 2006 07:24 (fourteen years ago) link

nine months pass...
So I updated to and I can't get a drop menu to come up anymore. I've disabled my extensions, I've gone into safe mode, and I've reinstalled Firefox twice. Got a guess?

Pleasant Plains, Saturday, 14 April 2007 21:05 (fourteen years ago) link

Delete the firefox, it is called Mozilla I think folder in Documents and Settings, and then reinstall. Back up all your bookmarks before you do this and then maybe try a fresh install.

svend, Saturday, 14 April 2007 21:27 (fourteen years ago) link

The last paragraph of this will tell you how to do it.

svend, Saturday, 14 April 2007 21:28 (fourteen years ago) link

Uninstalled and reinstalled. No drop menus. I don't want to go back to Explorer, but at least I can save a freakin' link there if I wanna.

Pleasant Plains, Saturday, 14 April 2007 23:13 (fourteen years ago) link

i had this problem on my mom's computer (using the OpenBook extension/add-on) but uninstalling/reinstalling seems to have fixed it.

mookieproof, Saturday, 14 April 2007 23:36 (fourteen years ago) link

uninstalling/reinstalling firefox, that is

mookieproof, Saturday, 14 April 2007 23:37 (fourteen years ago) link

I finally figured it out (thanks to the Mozilla "Knowledge Zone" actually.) All I needed to do was go to about:config and click on the ui.click_hold_context_menus feature. Apparently, the default Firefox function for Macs is Control + Click to activate the drop down.

Pleasant Plains, Sunday, 15 April 2007 04:11 (fourteen years ago) link

four months pass...

I am pretty much at my wit's end here -- sometime between when I went home on vacation last Wednesday night and when I came back on Monday, apparently Firefox decided that working on my machine was too much for it beyond ten minutes at a stretch. I'm running on Mac OSX 10.4.10 -- without fail, sometimes almost promptly, it starts choking up and taking forever to load pages, switch between tabs, even respond when clicked on. I've seen the spinning ball far too often and have had to force quit god knows how many times. Regular quitting and machine restarts and more have had no effect, and again, absolutely nothing like this was giving me a problem before vacation and it's been nothing but grief since. A cursory examination of the bug report list mentions a couple of problems that might be mine but I just don't know. Anyone?

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 12:32 (thirteen years ago) link


nathalie, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 12:33 (thirteen years ago) link

Considering I switched from Safari a long time back, I'd ask for other suggestions.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 12:34 (thirteen years ago) link

Sorry, I just can't understand the love for FireFox. Safari is just so stable and loads a lot quicker than FF for me. Why did you switch anyway?

Have you tried to just reinstall it?

nathalie, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 12:45 (thirteen years ago) link

Or empty the cache?

nathalie, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 12:46 (thirteen years ago) link

Ned is that not sounding like a connection issue, rather than a browser problem? i guess you've already looked into that eh.

it sounds very similar to a problem i get sometimes, again with firefox, but further checking shows that IE5 produces slow internet pages. It sorts itself out after a day and i usually just put it down to crappy broadband service.

i'm away for the next 5 days and you can bet your bottom dollar that my computer will fail to work on my return, it usually does.

Ste, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 12:48 (thirteen years ago) link

yeh this is happening to a lot of people, i've read that there are problems with displaying flash & memory leakage. some people have had success disabling the antiphishing. have you tried Camino?

zappi, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 12:49 (thirteen years ago) link

you know when you try and download something big on firefox.. it seems to freeze the whole thing (and any other firefox window), while the download is in progress (and not tell you what progress it's making) until it's over.. is there a way to fix that??

ken c, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 12:50 (thirteen years ago) link

Safari is just so stable and loads a lot quicker than FF for me. Why did you switch anyway?

Because I was experiencing the reverse. Cache-clearing so far has had no effect but I'll try it again -- as it is I need to head out to work so I won't have a chance to futz with it further until tonight.

Stet, good point about the connection issue but that doesn't seem to be it.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 12:50 (thirteen years ago) link

this is on windows xp

ken c, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 12:50 (thirteen years ago) link

i mean, this is on windows xp xpost

ken c, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 12:50 (thirteen years ago) link

I had this on my Apple as well.

nathalie, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 12:51 (thirteen years ago) link

i've got exactly the same OS X/FF combo as you, ned, and i have to say it does grind to a halt every few days or so ... nothing quite as frequent as you're having, though. how many extensions have you got running? have you tried chucking them all?

i really don't like safari at all, i have to say. it seems oddly unresponsive and slow.

grimly fiendish, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 12:52 (thirteen years ago) link

can keith not write us a web browser?

ken c, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 12:54 (thirteen years ago) link

actually: checking mine just there, it seems greasemonkey, foxytunes and a couple of others were in some odd limbo-like state (presumably since the update) ... the icons in the add-ons menu were greyed out. hmm. i've uninstalled them because TBH i never use the things.

go on, check you've not got some rogue FF extension fucking shit up.

grimly fiendish, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 12:55 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm glad (okay not really glad, but you get my point) to see others having the same issues with Firefox. Within the last two weeks my Firefox has recently started grinding to a near complete halt whenever I'm downloading a file (exact same problem as ken c).

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 13:00 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah i have that downloading problem all the time, i just thought it was shite programming

Ste, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 13:03 (thirteen years ago) link

hmm: i don't notice everything else grinding to a halt while i'm downloading, but it does do so *before* i download (for up to 20 seconds). like ste, i just thought it was sloppiness.

still prefer it to safari, though. sorry.

grimly fiendish, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 13:09 (thirteen years ago) link

I've had problems with FF using up tons of CPU/RAM for no apparent reason lately (on XP), might well be extensions doing it, should try uninstalling and see if it helps.

Colonel Poo, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 13:38 (thirteen years ago) link

> you know when you try and download something big on firefox.. it seems to freeze the whole thing (and any other firefox window), while the download is in progress (and not tell you what progress it's making) until it's over.. is there a way to fix that??

is this mostly pdfs? if it is then PDF file association (within firefox) from 'use this plugin' to 'use this application'. now they'll download in background then start acrobat rather than freezing friefox for the duration.

might work with other file types as well.

koogs, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 13:39 (thirteen years ago) link

Since Monday, Firefox crashes every time I try to reply to an email from my gmail account. Why?? I went on vacation for a week and since I got back it's fuxored. IT IS A MYSTERY DOT GEE EYE EFF.

Laurel, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 13:48 (thirteen years ago) link

I can't imagine it's any of my extensions, I would have noticed that before my vacation break as well and haven't added any since. Still, I might experiment.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 13:58 (thirteen years ago) link

laurel: have had something similar with bad swf files embedded in a page, mostly ads. use adblock to block them. (you might need to view source in a different browser in order to find them)

koogs, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 13:59 (thirteen years ago) link

it's with any kinds of files koogs, and i wasn't even trying to launch them, just to save to disk. the program will just freeze for the duration of the download and then eventually comes back with a little popup on the bottom right corner and say "All files download is complete", and bring up the downloads window.

it's like somebody forgot to run the download process in a background thread.

ken c, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 14:01 (thirteen years ago) link

or maybe it's the way firefox wants to tell me "You decided to download a 15MB file. Good Job. Moron."

ken c, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 14:03 (thirteen years ago) link

i do that all the time (firefox, winxp...) and it's fine.

it's not me, it's you.

modem problems? virus checker? disk space?

koogs, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 14:14 (thirteen years ago) link

there must be SOMETHING, but i dunno what.

disk space maybe but there's definitely more than 15MB.

ken c, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 14:18 (thirteen years ago) link


someone with same problem since last monday. clearing cache, deleting cookie fixed it.

koogs, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 14:18 (thirteen years ago) link

Andy, you are a star. Thank you.

Laurel, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 14:33 (thirteen years ago) link

Ned: maybe try safe mode ( and if that fixes things then start turning extensions on and off one at a time. Failing that, create a new OS X test user account and see if they have the same problem.

caek, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 14:49 (thirteen years ago) link

You can change the search box function back. I found this on the arstechnica forums.

Go to "about:config"
Find this key:
Double-click it to change it to "false"

Zachary Taylor, Thursday, 11 December 2014 04:43 (six years ago) link

you're the man, dawg!

Nhex, Thursday, 11 December 2014 05:14 (six years ago) link

OMG so much better.

Leeegally Blonde (Leee), Wednesday, 17 December 2014 01:43 (six years ago) link

three years pass...

I have "search as you type" enabled, but when I'm on ILX and I type 's', it goes to SNA instead of searching for 's'. Anyone else experience this or know what's going on?

Leee. Earl Grey, hot. (Leee), Friday, 29 December 2017 23:33 (three years ago) link

it's a feature stet added, noted here


sleeve, Friday, 29 December 2017 23:35 (three years ago) link

one year passes...

Current version has a very annoying Network Protocol Error bug that's going to be fixed

StanM, Monday, 11 March 2019 17:11 (two years ago) link

one month passes...

firefox appears to have broken all add-ons. i'm seeing the web today without adblock and it's just a horrible place.

koogs, Tuesday, 7 May 2019 11:36 (two years ago) link

There's an update you can install to fix the bug. Save the exe file in the link below on disc and run it, that worked for me:

Tuomas, Tuesday, 7 May 2019 12:04 (two years ago) link

win64. pah.

i've downloaded an update already this morning, didn't help. there's a new point release. will try that.

koogs, Tuesday, 7 May 2019 12:08 (two years ago) link

that is a lot better. facebook now not just showing me random pictures of things with prices on them. no gizmodo video advert sidebars.

koogs, Tuesday, 7 May 2019 12:16 (two years ago) link

just restart and enable them all again. worked for me yesterday

ilm jive mind (FlopsyDuck), Tuesday, 7 May 2019 12:46 (two years ago) link

also don't use adblock, use ublock origin

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 7 May 2019 13:19 (two years ago) link

What I don’t understand is why this happened to my Firefox too when I have it set to not auto-install any updates?

Screamin' Jay Gould (The Yellow Kid), Tuesday, 7 May 2019 15:25 (two years ago) link

it was some certificate thing that expired or didn't get signed anymore imo

StanM, Tuesday, 7 May 2019 15:29 (two years ago) link

weird that it affected the add-ons when i thought that stuff only affected things like SSL

Nhex, Tuesday, 7 May 2019 16:00 (two years ago) link

The add-ons themselves are signed - so if we had an ILXor add-on, it would be signed to show it came from us and not some rando. It was a key certificate in the chain used to check those signatures that expired.

stet, Tuesday, 7 May 2019 16:31 (two years ago) link

eleven months pass...

note to self: next time firefox wants to update itself, don't let it.

updated and now ilx and firefpx are missing something and everything looks like the 1980s

koogs, Wednesday, 22 April 2020 20:42 (one year ago) link

adblock is screwing the pooch. disable it and things are back to normal. linux.

koogs, Wednesday, 22 April 2020 21:16 (one year ago) link

disable adblock and install ublock origin

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 22 April 2020 21:32 (one year ago) link

i already have both 8)

adblock apparently has an update, but i can't work out how to install it, so disabled for now.

koogs, Wednesday, 22 April 2020 21:35 (one year ago) link

four months pass...

did firefox on android recently get updated with a bunch of jank? i just want to visit websites thank you

wasdnous (abanana), Saturday, 29 August 2020 01:23 (nine months ago) link

yeah, the laatest version for Android is awful -- they discontinued support for almost all extensions and jettisoned a bunch of basic decades-old features like the tab bar, download manager, back button, and about:config. hopefully they'll accede to the demands of the screeching Firefox fanboys and restore some of that functionality with the next update. in the meantime I've switched to Kiwi, which is pretty decent alternative

panburger partner (unregistered), Monday, 31 August 2020 08:13 (nine months ago) link

two weeks pass...

I'm normally quite patient with application updates but fucking hell they really ballsed this up. I've mostly adapted to using the new UI but it's still hanging quite regularly.

grebo shot first (Noel Emits), Monday, 14 September 2020 11:19 (nine months ago) link

three weeks pass...

fuck this garbage browser

neith moon (ledge), Monday, 5 October 2020 08:25 (eight months ago) link

starting to think the same

Two Meter Peter (Ste), Monday, 5 October 2020 22:08 (eight months ago) link

i'm guessing this has to do with android users? i'm having zero issues on any of my machines.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Monday, 5 October 2020 22:29 (eight months ago) link

How so? I was hating it recently, lots of crashes, but now I'm having Chrome issues and I think it's just a weird RAM thing or some other app causing issues.

change display name (Jordan), Monday, 5 October 2020 22:32 (eight months ago) link

Still a ton of stupid annoying stuff in the Android version. Seems like they rewrote lots of the interface and barely tested it. Just typing into this box on ILX and it starts crunching.

Kieran Arse (Noel Emits), Monday, 5 October 2020 22:38 (eight months ago) link

My issues are with the windows version, albeit on an old (5 years!!!) and somewhat flaky pc:

1) the 'firefox is already running' dialog, needed by no other application in history (though chrome is a famous memory hog, maybe it just ignores orphaned processes)
2) this one is weird - slack and gmail and no other sites take an eternity to load, often it will just give up, the loading spinner will stop though the tab is still blank. multiple refreshes needed to get them to load.
3) i can't read messages in slack threads - it opens the sidebar, doesn't load any messages
4) slack brought it down completely yesterday

seems to be some bad firefox/slack confluence going on, i know the idiots at slack focus on chrome (you can't do video calls in firefox).

neith moon (ledge), Tuesday, 6 October 2020 09:23 (eight months ago) link

Slack posted an advisory yesterday, they were having trouble...

koogs, Tuesday, 6 October 2020 09:27 (eight months ago) link

i installed the slack app to my desktop but still run slack in Firefox and that seems to have fixed a lot of those issues

1000 Scampo DJs (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 6 October 2020 09:32 (eight months ago) link

will give that a go, ta.

neith moon (ledge), Tuesday, 6 October 2020 09:47 (eight months ago) link

Slack (and gmail, though only about 1/3rd as much as slack ime) is a notorious memory hog. How many workspaces are you using on slack?

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 6 October 2020 14:10 (eight months ago) link

only one!

neith moon (ledge), Tuesday, 6 October 2020 14:14 (eight months ago) link

Slack and facebook are the biggest memory hogs. Just closing a tab w/ slack or fb in Firefox instantly drops my overall memory usage w/ 15%, according to my memory cleaner app

Ilxor in the streets, Scampo in the sheets (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 6 October 2020 14:21 (eight months ago) link

Desktop Firefox is going thru a shonky phase at the moment imo

The Android version is currently dogshit, as others have indicated

1000 Scampo DJs (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 6 October 2020 14:48 (eight months ago) link

in Mozilla's slight defense, the Android version now has a back button and a download manager, but the other issues haven't been resolved (including the lack of a tab bar) and the whole thing still feels like a beta. apparently the latest version of Nightly supports add-ons, but I haven't tried it yet and I'm still using Kiwi for the time being even though it's no longer being updated

(peech) or (buht ih-moh-jee) (unregistered), Wednesday, 14 October 2020 16:10 (eight months ago) link

three months pass...

something i complained about here (back button being disabled when clicking on image urls) is explained here:

instagram and facebook now open in a container in firefox and that ditches all the history / referer details when making the new container. makes sense but i wonder whether i can force it to use a new tab for those links so i still have everything in the original tab.

koogs, Saturday, 16 January 2021 15:07 (five months ago) link

four months pass...

firefox has been at the crayons again, changing stuff, making it look dumber.

top bar with the tabs in it now looks a lot taller but the favicons and tab names are the same size so you lose vertical space for no real gain.

koogs, Tuesday, 8 June 2021 11:27 (two weeks ago) link

yeah that spacing ffs. I had to create a lot more bookmark folders because eff having to scroll to see my bookmark lists

Diggin Holes (Ste), Tuesday, 8 June 2021 13:03 (two weeks ago) link

it's annoying

Linda and Jodie Rocco (map), Tuesday, 8 June 2021 13:13 (two weeks ago) link

had to change that this morning. wordy fix below

about:config <-- in address bar. "accept risk and continue" <--- set to true. exit about:config. maybe restart firefox.

find 'customize' under 'more tools' in the drop down menu that is an icon that looks like 3 small horizontal lines

set density to compact.

protip-- if you use menu bar and bookmarks toolbar, drag the bookmark toolbar items onto the menu bar from the customize screen

n/a (FlopsyDuck), Tuesday, 8 June 2021 13:28 (two weeks ago) link

oops! one more important step-- turn off the bookmarks toolbar if you move the bookmark toolbar items up to the menu bar or never use it.

n/a (FlopsyDuck), Tuesday, 8 June 2021 13:36 (two weeks ago) link

hmm, didn't seem to change anything. Although my Density setting was "Compact (not supported)".

Diggin Holes (Ste), Tuesday, 8 June 2021 13:39 (two weeks ago) link

try turning off your bookmarks toolbar

n/a (FlopsyDuck), Tuesday, 8 June 2021 14:51 (two weeks ago) link

ah but it's the bookmarks toolbar i want the compact to affect. Is that not possible to change then?

Diggin Holes (Ste), Tuesday, 8 June 2021 14:54 (two weeks ago) link

i can't confirm it myself because i'm running ESR but apparently setting browser.proton.enabled to false in about:config unfucks things a bit

enjoy it until mozilla inevitably removes it next version

chihuahuau, Tuesday, 8 June 2021 16:59 (two weeks ago) link

There is also browser.uidensity that should be set to 1 (if it isn't already)

n/a (FlopsyDuck), Tuesday, 8 June 2021 18:08 (two weeks ago) link

xp, chih, tried it and things got even more compact :)

n/a (FlopsyDuck), Tuesday, 8 June 2021 18:11 (two weeks ago) link

I think Ste meant the Bookmarks dropdown menu from the menubar was no longer compact. I decided to test disabling all Proton entries in about:config and discovered the one that fixes the issue by resetting to how it was before.

set to false:

and while were at it we might as well set the entry chihuahuau mentioned to false as well:

n/a (FlopsyDuck), Thursday, 17 June 2021 15:09 (six days ago) link

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