I'm old here, so what is... 'Oh, Wrinklepaws'?

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Discusion of thread here:
Please Use the Undelete Function on ILM Thread 6875941 and strip Jess of his mod access

"wrinklepaws" was/is a person, who posted on ilm a bit. Perhaps the noise board kru saw him/them off, I don't know.

The best thing on the thread raw patrick links to is this:

whereforart thou, wrinklepaws?

-- ZR (teenagequiet@g

CLOSER THAN YOU THINK, ZR.

for roffles, mainly.

Everytime I read the name Wrinklepaws I wanna pat his little head and stroke his wrinkled paws.

Oh, Mosschops.
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/h.hutchison/Images/Mosschops.jpg

http://www.fragglerocker.com/pics/characters_trashheap.jpg

http://www.deafblind.org.uk/pingu/img/pingu.jpg

Anywho, they came to me because they know I read a lot of mp3 blogs like ILM and Stereogum. I suggested that they send out music samples to all the major tastemakers, which they did -- but no response as of yet.

Then I found another intriguing option, for $25 they can be the band of the week on Scenestars, a fave mp3 blog of mine:
http://scenestars.net/bandspot/index.php

What do you think, is the exposure worth $25? I mean, they could just post their music on the YSI thread here for free.. Does anyone know how much traffic Scenestars gets or how many downloads they can expect in a week?

I think they should do it as Coldplay, Arctic Monkeys, and CYHSY are all prominently featured and they are looking to do a similar grassroots viral DIY thing to get label attention.

These Scenestar folks have a pretty high profile so some industry people must listen to what their flogging. Do you think journos will take us less seriously if it's a paid promotion? I have mixed feelings, free would be ideal, but they are not in a position to hire a PR person.

thx in advance,
W

-- Wrinklepaws (wrinklepaw...), April 5th, 2006. (1 trackback)
Answers
ILM IS NOT AN MP3 BLOG

-- Special Agent Gene Krupa (dr.carl.saga...), April 5th, 2006.
oh, wrinklepaws

-- cutty (holle...), April 5th, 2006.
oh god.

-- sean gramophone (sea...), April 5th, 2006.
I read a lot of mp3 blogs like [INSERT NAME OF SITE I AM SPAMMING] and Stereogum

-- musically (emxbe...), April 5th, 2006.
there are several different possible pronunciations "oh, wrinklepaws," and all of them are hilarious

-- ZR (teenagequie...), April 5th, 2006.
Holy shit.

-- Eppy (epp...), April 5th, 2006.
wrinklepaws is my favorite

-- +++++ (...), April 5th, 2006.
okay here is how you become big on "the mp3blogs".

1) email the "big" mp3blogs personalised emails, and tell them you are giving them an "exclusive" song to post. send link to myspace/website/whatever. tell them who you sound like - bonus points if it's Sufjan/Jenny Watson/Rilo Kiley/Nick Drake. offer to send them CD.

2) email the smaller mp3blogs personalised emails, with a link to where they can download the album. send link to myspace/website/whatever. tell them who you sound like - bonus points if it's Sufjan/Jenny Watson/Rilo Kiley/Nick Drake.

3) profit

mp3blogs in general have TERRIBLE quality control, and many basically post anything that sounds like a good/popular band. they are trying to post stuff their readers will like more than anything that is excellent per se. also they prefer to post something no one has posted before, rather than something that is particularly awesome.

paying for coverage on mp3blog sidebars seems retarded to me, but what do i know.

-- sean gramophone (sea...), April 5th, 2006.
I checked to see if this is was an April Fool's. It wasn't.

-- Eppy (epp...), April 5th, 2006.
is lancing an option for an external hemorrhoid? I asked my ex-girlfirend to ask her dad (who's a doctor) but I'm still waiting on a reply.

ex-gf says no, as one might "hit a subcutaenous river of unpleasantness" (her words). I am inclined to think "maybe", as it would reduce swelling -- but as I don't have health insurance right now i'll proabably just chicken out.

-- Wrinklepaws (wrinklepaw...), April 4th, 2006.

-- ++++++ (...), April 5th, 2006.
xxxxpost

I'm hearing it in my head like Mr. Burns reading the comix and saying, "Oh, Ziggy. Will he never win."

-- Renard (drenard...), April 5th, 2006.
what did starvin' indie bands ever do before paypal?

-- caspar (caspa...), April 5th, 2006.
Hot female lead singer showin' a little thigh, I hear.

-- Eppy (epp...), April 5th, 2006.
many thx sean! the rest of you go die.

-- Wrinklepaws (wrinklepaw...), April 5th, 2006.
i mean, they might go and do it anyway, can't hurt, naw'mean?
but thx

-- Wrinklepaws (wrinklepaw...), April 5th, 2006.
oh, wrinklepaws

-- ZR (teenagequie...), April 5th, 2006.
Scenestars charging money is bullshit .... your idea that blog payola = "diy grassroots" is nearly equally misguided

-- Renard (drenard...), April 5th, 2006.
Two thoughts:

1) I've never heard of Scenestars, and I'm no stranger to MP3 blogs,

and

2) This sounds like the latest version of the "put your crappy indie band on our crappy CD compilation that we're gonna, like, shop to, like, The Music Industry (tm)". (Translation: the CD gets placed on consignment in a bunch of shops where no one buys it, and sent to record labels who immediately chuck the package in the recycle bin reserved for unsolicited material.)

-- Tantrum The Cat (tantrumtheca...), April 5th, 2006.
ILM meme of the day = oh, wrinklepaws

-- Edward III (ehonaue...), April 5th, 2006.
There was all this.

-- Eppy (epp...), April 5th, 2006.
Doesn't *cough* PFM still have a pay-for-placement mp3 download page? I'm not sure what the numbers are for people actually looking at that page but I know at least one local band that's done it.

-- mike h. (m...), April 5th, 2006.
MP3BLOG PAYOLA $CANDAL ALERT ELIOT SPITZER

-- hstencil (hstenc!...), April 5th, 2006.
Ah yes, the old "grassroots viral DIY thing".

-- nancyboy (40milliondagger...), April 5th, 2006.
ILM IS NOT AN MP3 BLOG...ILM IS THE MP3 BLOG

-- Alex in Baltimore (shipley.a...), April 5th, 2006.
Oh lord. Have the Scenestars lost their minds altogether?

-- Matthew C Perpetua (perpetu...), April 5th, 2006.
TUNE IN NEXT WEEK!

(cue organ)

-- hstencil (hstenc!...), April 5th, 2006.
the drudge siren joke never gets old

-- Renard (drenard...), April 5th, 2006.
shipley is that from your chuck norris inspired "ilm facts" list?

-- +++++ (...), April 5th, 2006.
CYHSY

This always makes me think of Crosby, Young, Henning (Doug), Stills & Youngman (Henny)

-- Huk-L (handsomishbo...), April 5th, 2006.
I don't even know what that's supposed to mean, dude. just give up, you're firing blanks today.

-- Alex in Baltimore (shipley.a...), April 5th, 2006.
Doesn't *cough* PFM still have a pay-for-placement mp3 download page? I'm not sure what the numbers are for people actually looking at that page but I know at least one local band that's done it.

wait, how much does this cost?

-- Wrinklepaws (wrinklepaw...), April 5th, 2006.
Just send 200 grams of pure uncut heroin to Ryan Schreiber.

-- Eppy (epp...), April 5th, 2006.
and some preperation-H

-- hstencil (hstenc!...), April 5th, 2006.
Oh man, I love when the police lights show up in a thread.

-- BlastsOfStatic (breitlin...), April 5th, 2006.
"Guaranteed to Break Your Hip"

anyone want to tell me what this means?

http://scenestars.net/mail/mail_patrik/

"Please use the form below to contact Mark"

:(

-- banana squad (...), April 5th, 2006.
what what a-ship, your bro didnt ever send you chuck norris facts?? that wasnt a dis, i was trying to make you post shit like THERE IS NO THEORY OF EVOLUTION, JUST A LIST OF RAPPERS ILM ALLOWS TO CONTINUE RECORDING.

-- +++++ (...), April 5th, 2006.
haha ok dude, sorry, i must be behind on my internet memes, i forgot about that chuck norris thing

-- Alex in Baltimore (shipley.a...), April 5th, 2006.
i want to be a scenestar

-- cutty (holle...), April 5th, 2006.
THERE IS NO HTML CODE UNDER THE MAIN PAGE OF GOVT NAMES - ONLY ANOTHER FIST.

-- +++++ (...), April 5th, 2006.
take it to the DJ Shadow thread, man.

-- Alex in Baltimore (shipley.a...), April 5th, 2006.
Fess up Perpetua, you may have your pride and integrity but don't you wish you had TWENTY-FIVE DOLLARS? I mean, that's some serious taco money.

-- mike h. (m...), April 5th, 2006.
oh man

-- cutty (holle...), April 5th, 2006.
"grassroots viral thing" sounds like hippie herpes

-- pssst - badass revolutionary art! (plsmit...), April 5th, 2006.
If your friends are male:
1. let them lose weight + wear makeup
2. send pictures to ultr4grrrl
3.
4. profit

-- StanM (Stan10...), April 5th, 2006.
Now picture Bowling for Soup doing that.

-- Eppy (epp...), April 5th, 2006.
ok i am looking at scenestars for the first time in a while, and right now, in april of 2006, its front page has: love is all, clap your ass say woo, and a bunch of 'look, i get to go to a conference' life-drops. and the RED HOT CHILI PEPPERS. oh and some press releasey things about sufjan stevens and beck.

so wrinklepaws, i guess if your friend's band wants to be at the zeitgeist of six months ago, this $25 thing sounds like the perfect opportunity.

ps plz don't give me the 'aw they're in memphis' excuse, hello you're all on the internet

-- maura (maur...), April 5th, 2006.
Fess up Perpetua, you may have your pride and integrity but don't you wish you had TWENTY-FIVE DOLLARS? I mean, that's some serious taco money.
-- mike h. (m...), April 5th, 2006.

^^^ pwn

-- +++++ (+...), April 5th, 2006.
hi maura! :D

-- ++++ (...), April 5th, 2006.
Matthew wouldn't take $25 to post an MP3 unless two blogs that get signifantly less readers than him had already done it. Then he could "discover" payola and tell all his fans about it.

-- Dom Passantino (juror...), April 5th, 2006.
It's my blog, so I guess I'll explain the deal -

You may have noticed the blogads banners on most reputable mp3 sites...

This is where the big 5 record companies buy space to advertise new records from their artists. Elefant, Flaming Lips, Beth Orton, I can;t remmeber all of the ones that have been featured in the last few months...

I get about 30 emails a week from independent bands asking me to listen to their music. I also get about 10 CD's in the mail from labels and PR companies. I can't listen to it all. The $25 basically gives you premium space on a blog that gets up to 4000 hits a day and since we host the music, it covers bandwidth costs.

All in all, it's a pretty good deal.

-- Rachel Hurley (rache...), April 5th, 2006.
A good deal, huh? Maura said it best up above: "if your friend's band wants to be at the zeitgeist of six months ago."

I'm sure the day will come when sounding "six months ago" will be all the rage, but the cycle hasn't sped up that much yet. The primary flaw that Scenestars has always had (above many, many others) is that it's a hanger-on blog.

Giving $25 to Scenestars could be better sent mailing 25 cdr's to 25 other mp3 blogs.

-- Johnny Fever (sidewaysou...), April 5th, 2006.
i for one will automatically hex any band that pays to be on scenestars. shudder

-- sovietpanda (sovietpand...), April 5th, 2006.
NYPOST: SPITZER FIGHTS BLOG PAYOLA WITH VOODOO

-- yuengling participle (pton_mwaa...), April 5th, 2006.
What kind of bandwidth costs do you have, Rachel? It costs me $200 a YEAR to pay for my domain/webspace and file hosting. Either you've signed up for a chump deal, or you're pocketing a LOT of that money.

-- Matthew C Perpetua (perpetu...), April 5th, 2006.
Well, maybe not a LOT of it if you're splitting it with your contributors.

-- Matthew C Perpetua (perpetu...), April 5th, 2006.
reputable mp3 sites...

XPOST

hey fatass, it is because your WMA files are tiny

-- Fight the Real Enemy -- Tasti D-Lite (dr_...), April 5th, 2006.
Rachel, perhaps you could more effectively supplement your expenses by going into business with these kind people.

-- Johnny Fever (sidewaysou...), April 5th, 2006.
5 featured artists that I notice * $25 * 52 weeks is $6500. Just food for thought.

Do music bloggers that play this particular game actually pay more attention to physical releases? I'd imagine email would cut costs significantly.

-- mike h. (m...), April 5th, 2006.
looks like we're missing out, you can post tracks for free to http://gabba.cc , not that we really need any more..

-- jk_ (j...), April 5th, 2006.
Record labels don't take you seriously unless you're charging people money. Believe you me.

-- Eppy (epp...), April 5th, 2006.
"We think we know what we're doing
But we don't pull the strings
it's all in the past now
money changes everything"

-- M@tt He1geson (mat...), April 5th, 2006.
Scenestars is a rubbish website.

-- James Mitchell (jxmitchel...), April 5th, 2006.
hey everyone, let's all get into a slap-fight about blogs and zeitgeist!

-- Matos-Webster Dictionary (michaelangelomato...), April 5th, 2006.
Several of us already did that about a year ago... with Scenestars.

-- Johnny Fever (sidewaysou...), April 5th, 2006. (tracklink)
To be serious for a second: if you want to spend some money promoting your music online, spend a little bit (a very little bit) more and buy an ad banner somewhere. I guess I don't know how this'll end up being presented, but in concept, it reeks of desperation--"We weren't good enough to get an MP3blog to actually post our music of their own free will (!!!) so we have paid them to do so." Now, if you can work them in seamlessly like radio stations do (uh, in the sense that it's all paid for, I guess), that's one thing. But if there's a separate "paid for" section, no one in their right mind would check it out. Maybe it's designed to trick people who are just using Mp3 aggregators, in which case good, but otherwise it's just a cordoned-off "bad and lame" area. Play a few more gigs and buy an ad banner instead. You can get one at a site of similar size for $350 a month and can doubtless work out a weekly rate if you want to.

-- Eppy (epp...), April 5th, 2006.
Great point, Eppy. A paid mp3 section is like the day-old bread shelf at the bakery.

-- Johnny Fever (sidewaysou...), April 5th, 2006.
Nick Slyvester biopic to premiere on Youtube this Fall. DEVELOPING...

-- Steve Shasta (steveshast...), April 5th, 2006.
Howard Johnson is right.

-- van igloo (non...), April 5th, 2006.
Bwahaha.

-- Eppy (epp...), April 5th, 2006.
NAW'MEAN

-- gbx (in....), April 5th, 2006.
i think wrinklepaws is secretly STEVE SHASTA tricking us

-- mookieproof (mookieproo...), April 5th, 2006.
I think you're onto something!

-- Tynan DeLong (steveshast...), April 5th, 2006.
real or not, this dude is sub-tynan at BEST.

-- jinx hijinks (nutramentmik...), April 5th, 2006.
am i the only one here mildly fascinated by this concept? at least the lure of money would keep me writing.

4 reviews @ 25$ = 100$ per week! 8 reviews = 200$!

but eh, declaring taxes. and id probably hate all the stuff that came in, so i would refund the money, putting me back at 0$.

OK, maybe this is a dumb idea. oh wrinklepaws!

-- mts (keepitonth...), April 5th, 2006.
am i the only one here mildly fascinated by this concept? at least the lure of money would keep me writing.

4 reviews @ 25$ = 100$ per week! 8 reviews = 200$!

Yeah, but this is where you cross the line between blogger and publicist.

-- Johnny Fever (sidewaysou...), April 5th, 2006.
how much is a spot on darla's 'little darla has a treat for you', it's pretty steep isn't it?

-- keyth (keythkeyt...), April 6th, 2006.
It sounds very professional even if it was mixed on ProTools and recorded in a home studio.

Off-topic, but I see little red dots and want to kill when i read stuff like this.

-- joseph cotten (josephcotte...), April 6th, 2006.
Why the ire, Joseph?

-- I like ProTools (protoolsrul...), April 6th, 2006.
Yeah, but this is where you cross the line between blogger and publicist.

how so?

-- mts (keepitonth...), April 6th, 2006.
xpost: Maybe because the phrase "it sounds very professional" (w/r/t audio recording) has been rendered utterly meaningless?

-- Tantrum The Cat (tantrumtheca...), April 6th, 2006.
Yeah, but this is where you cross the line between blogger and publicist.

how so?

I mean, you may as well just be writing those awful promo/bio sheets labels send out with advance cds. They obviously pay people to create those things, right?

I'm not going to get all soapboxy about the "inherent purity" of weblogging (it's an argument that's full of holes), but I think there's a Grand Canyon-sized chasm of difference between gushing about a band on a blog and shilling for that band after pocketing their $25.

-- Johnny Fever (sidewaysou...), April 6th, 2006.
i just want an extra 25$ in my pocket

-- mts (keepitonth...), April 6th, 2006.
"Do you think journos will take us less seriously if it's a paid promotion?"

No, I cover everything that appears for pay on Scenestars! Gimme $25 and I'll write about you in my 'zine! It's very well regarded at Kinkos.

-- js (roc...), April 6th, 2006.
If scenestars was only a "hot" mp3 blog, I'd say no. But it's a "hott" mp3 blog.

-- js (roc...), April 6th, 2006.

-- Wrinklepaws (wrinklepaw...), April 4th, 2006.

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holy hail

-- cutty (holle...) (webmail), April 25th, 2006 6:43 PM. (mcutt) (later) (link)

;)

-- cutty (holle...) (webmail), April 25th, 2006 6:44 PM. (mcutt) (later) (link)

Unread Messages

I am going to start using the phrase "party good times" a lot more now

what are you doing this weekend?
you know. party good times.

-- Mickey (mi...) (webmail), April 25th, 2006 9:39 PM. (modestmickey) (later) (link)

-- N. (nickdastoo...), April 29th, 2004 9:02 AM. (nickdastoor) (link)

hahaha idolator i kiss u

What the heck are "challops"?

It's a contraction of "challenging opinions" apparently. Seemingly (+ve connotation) look someone's pointing out the bleeding obvious/making some kind of cliche/heard it 1,000,000 times before statement handed down as if carved on tablets of stone (-ve connotation) ooh look someone's a bit naive lets laugh at him/her because i never was oh no.

Okay, thanks for the explanation.

So many levels of humour right here right now.

Many of those levels being below the ground floor...

http://www.challops.com/images/2.gif

can we get a chad paws update

I wanna one of these sharpie puppies

http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2007/07/she-out-cold-get-mai-sharpie-is-in-here.jpg

http://www.challops.com/

i✧✧✧@chall✧✧✧.c✧✧

phuck

can we get a chad paws update

-- cutty, Friday, August 8, 2008 2:47 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Link

sanskrit was doing well the last time i saw him

1 PLANNING APPEAL DECISIONS

1.1 Site Land known as Challops Field, Maidstone Road,
East Peckham

Appeal Against the refusal of permission for the creation of a farm animal veterinary unit (re-submission)

Appellant Mr Eryl Davies
Decision Appeal dismissed
Background papers file: PA/60/04 Contact: Cliff Cochrane
01732 876038

1.1.1 The Inspector considered the main issue to be whether the development would be inappropriate within the Green Belt and, if so, whether any special circumstances of sufficient weight exist to justify approving proposals, bearing in mind the effect that the development would be likely to have on the openness, character and appearance of this attractive rural location.

1.1.2 PPG2 makes it clear that two of the main attributes of the Green Belts are their openness and their permanence. By definition it is stated, inappropriate development is harmful to the Green Belt. Within areas so designated a presumption against inappropriate forms of development exists. PPG2 does not state that a development of this type would not be inappropriate within the Green Belt and, therefore, the Inspector considered it to be the weight of the very special circumstances advanced in this case which is the determining factor in the appeal.

1.1.3 The Inspector noted that the appeal site would meet a number of the criteria which are important considerations in site selection for a use of this type. These include size, good parking facilities, locational considerations, land availability and easy access to the highway network. He had no doubt that the land would be suitable for its intended use in these terms.

1.1.4 The Inspector was aware of the present shortcomings of the site at Paddock Wood and the difficulties being experienced in the treatment and management of large animals, especially horses, partly due to the limited space and site size. He fully acknowledged that the arrangements and size of the existing site and buildings is hindering the development of the Practice and prejudicing its level of service to clients. If the Practice is to retain its reputation and move forward, then an additional or replacement site has to be found with more space, better access and additional parking. Whilst the Inspector attached significant weight to these conclusions he did not consider that the “special circumstances” that are claimed are “very special” within the meaning of PPG2. He was not convinced that other solutions are not possible although he noted the submissions on this point and the difficulties that have been encountered in finding a new site, possibly by way of the conversion of existing agricultural buildings.

1.1.5 A number of the Kent Structure Plan policies contain clear statements that development within the Green Belt and the countryside will normally be resisted, unless very special circumstances apply. These echo Government guidance set out in PPG2 and PPS7. Various policies within the Local Plan follow this approach.

1.1.6 The inspector did not consider that any possible exceptions apply to this case. Nor did he conclude that the special circumstances in support of the development are so exceptional or “very special” that they overcome the presumption against inappropriate forms of development contained within PPG2. He also concluded that the development has no special justification for a location within the open countryside. It would harm the character and appearance of the area because of its visual intrusion and by introducing substantial and exposed buildings and other “hard areas” into an area characterised by its rural appearance. The erection of a building to the likely scale proposed would be widely visible in the landscape and would appear incongruous and stark in this attractive setting. Coupled with the fact that the openness of the area would be seriously diminished, he found the case against the proposals as so compelling as to override all other considerations.

challops field = an attractive rural location

i cant believe "oh, wrinklepaws" has been around for 2 years

pos-mens

whoa 2 years

ILM meme of the day = oh, wrinklepaws

-- Edward III (ehonaue...), April 5th, 2006

it has been a very long day

ILX poster "stevie" used a slight variation on "yoga flame for all time" in a music magazine earlier this week, nice work that man

Next week's share will likely include spinach, lettuce, radishes, mustard greens, challops, kale, turnip greens, arugara, maybe basil, maybe peas, maybe swiss char, and maybe garlic.

Ingredients:

1 1/2 pounds sea challops
3/4 cup fine dry unseasoned bread crumbs
1/2 cup butter
1/4 teaspoon salt
1/8 teaspoon ground black pepper
dash paprika
1 tablespoon fresh chopped parsley
3 tablespoons fresh lemon juice, about 1 large lemon
Preparation:

Roll challops in bread crumbs. Melt half of butter in skillet over medium low heat. Add salt, pepper, and paprika. Add challops and sauté slowly for 7 to 9 minutes, or until golden brown. Turn to brown evenly. Remove challops to heated serving dish and keep hot. Put remaining butter, parsley, and lemon juice in skillet; heat and pour over challops. Serve with rice or vegetables.
Serves 4.

holy shit two years

While we're at it, can somebody explain to me what that whole dutch board is about?

It's a Dutch thing, and not even they understand.

I see (?)

So where'd the "what a disaster for xxxx" meme come from?

I used to know

I know where good luck xxxx came from

I don't know where it came from but it's time for it to go away.

Conan Replaces Leno on Tonight Show...

hey! we're xxxxing

^^^ that came from Finland

what a disaster for wrinklepaws' henfap

and this is where the "xxx" meme is being created live before your very eyes!

what a disaster for "what a disaster for X"

^^^^xxxxxx

what a disaster for xxxxing

"it came from tuomas" sounds like an ilx horror film

what would be the Finnish title?

cornie indie xxxxors

hey! tuomas is cumming in front of a babby

xp

good luck ilxxxx

"it came from tuomas" sounds like an ilx baby horror film

xxxxxxposts

in finland no one can hear you scream

I often feel a lot of sympathy for Tuomas for having to be "the dude known for defending masturbating in front of a baby" right up to the point where I remember that he was defending masturbating in front of a baby.

http://trollcats.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/forced_meme_is_forced_trollcat.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y176/edwardiii/memeshotwad.jpg

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