The mixture of tones most impressed me, even when Desplechin strained by using jump cuts and intentionally elided transitions; an American version of this kind of novelistic film would have too many cute ironic moments. The performances were good. Emmanuelle Devos is exhaustive and exhausting (Desplechin forces her to cry too often); Catherine Deneuve is dry and self-amused; Maruice Garrel as the father was quite moving.
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 16 March 2006 19:39 (eighteen years ago) link
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 16 March 2006 23:18 (eighteen years ago) link
― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 16 March 2006 23:19 (eighteen years ago) link
― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 16 March 2006 23:22 (eighteen years ago) link
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 16 March 2006 23:37 (eighteen years ago) link
Weird. I had the opposite impression. It's been nearly a year since I saw it, but I remember a lot of scenes being extra spry and that there were a lot more of them than in most movies.
I loved it, but my love is sort of guarded with this movie. I don't like talking about it with people. I'm much more comfortable enthusing about Cannibal Holocaust and Dave Chappelle's Block Party and such.
― Eric H. (Eric H.), Friday, 17 March 2006 00:18 (eighteen years ago) link
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 17 March 2006 00:58 (eighteen years ago) link
― amateurist0, Friday, 17 March 2006 01:50 (eighteen years ago) link
― Real Goths Don't Wear Black (Enrique), Friday, 17 March 2006 09:53 (eighteen years ago) link
― Eric H. (Eric H.), Friday, 17 March 2006 10:39 (eighteen years ago) link
― Real Goths Don't Wear Black (Enrique), Friday, 17 March 2006 10:43 (eighteen years ago) link
did anyone see "esther kahn"? sort of his film maudit i guess. well no that was "leo en jouant 'la compagnie des hommes'" which i saw in paris and which i found to be completely awful. but anyway "esther kahn" i thought was interesting but i don't remember it much now, except that ian holm was good and summer phoenix was sort of bleh.
― amateurist0, Friday, 17 March 2006 11:27 (eighteen years ago) link
― amateurist0, Friday, 17 March 2006 11:28 (eighteen years ago) link
― Eric H. (Eric H.), Friday, 17 March 2006 12:15 (eighteen years ago) link
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Friday, 17 March 2006 16:30 (eighteen years ago) link
You could be right.
― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 17 March 2006 16:31 (eighteen years ago) link
― Real Goths Don't Wear Black (Enrique), Friday, 17 March 2006 16:33 (eighteen years ago) link
It's either age or I see too many movies, but I don't even remember Deneuve being in K&Q!
Esther Kahn: having a terrible actress play a terrible actress = terrible film.
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 17 March 2006 16:39 (eighteen years ago) link
― Real Goths Don't Wear Black (Enrique), Friday, 17 March 2006 16:40 (eighteen years ago) link
― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 17 March 2006 16:41 (eighteen years ago) link
― Eric H. (Eric H.), Friday, 17 March 2006 16:49 (eighteen years ago) link
A private, deliciously illicit pleasure?
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Friday, 17 March 2006 16:53 (eighteen years ago) link
― Eric H. (Eric H.), Friday, 17 March 2006 17:34 (eighteen years ago) link
― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 17 March 2006 17:35 (eighteen years ago) link
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Friday, 17 March 2006 17:45 (eighteen years ago) link
― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 17 March 2006 17:46 (eighteen years ago) link
arnaud desplechin season at mine
u r all invited
― I h8 meatheads (cozwn), Monday, 3 August 2009 13:18 (fourteen years ago) link
got esther kahn, un conte noel and kings & queen showing
bring own popcorn pls
― I h8 meatheads (cozwn), Monday, 3 August 2009 13:19 (fourteen years ago) link
Those are the three I've already seen. Should probably get around to My Sex Life one of these days.
― sir-mounter (Eric H.), Monday, 3 August 2009 13:35 (fourteen years ago) link
i haven't finished watching 'kings and queen' on the netflix yet, this reminds me i have to do that. haven't seen 'esther kahn' but will get to that next, i think.
"leo en jouant 'la compagnie des hommes'"^^^ i liked this but maybe had a lot to do with sami bouajila looking very pretty in it
― daria, actually (daria-g), Monday, 3 August 2009 13:47 (fourteen years ago) link
iirc i liked this, but 'a christmas tale', nooooo. it's kind of the french 'peter's friends' + awful use of music.
― Dean Gaffney's December (history mayne), Friday, 18 December 2009 12:51 (fourteen years ago) link
to be fair i ejected after 55min.
― Dean Gaffney's December (history mayne), Friday, 18 December 2009 12:52 (fourteen years ago) link
Man, I loved this movie.
― queen frostine (Eric H.), Friday, 18 December 2009 13:07 (fourteen years ago) link
And A Christmas Tale, for that matter.
ACT was attenuated in spots, but if anything it's more emotionally acute than KAQ (that first conversation b/w Deneuve and Amalric).
I know it's 2008, etc, but ACT didn't play in South Florida until February, so I may include it in a top twenty.
― Hell is other people. In an ILE film forum. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 18 December 2009 13:20 (fourteen years ago) link
lol i rewatched "a christmas tale" last nite and was thinking it was kinda wes anderson w/better music or really i guess grown-up wes anderson. havent seen peters friends so i dont get the ref but im (stupidly?) surprised u didnt like this~~~
i think its really, really good fwiw and aside from any 'deeper' or 'thoughtful' reasons the entire aesthetic and experience is like designed to be deeply pleasing to me. the ppl and the clothes and the way they wear their clothes and how they talk to and touch each other and the house and the way the house is decorated and the records they play and the movies they watch and the sprawling pleasant place - would live itw.
― b( ۠·_۠·)b (Lamp), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 16:35 (fourteen years ago) link
i do think the movie and most of the characters are emotionally closed-off theyre playing games w/us the movie is playing games w/us too. but i like its ability to give and take pleasure - revel in 'cleverness' and 'aesthetics'.
theres a shot were simon and sylvia are in the car talking and he cuts to cars exterior and u can see theyve been there a while - the windshield is lightly coated w/falling snow - and we can only here them talking. and then syliva moves to the backseat and bumps the wipers and the snow is brushed away (so cleanly!) and theyre visible to us again and its kinda a false and unnecessary moment but i still liked it a lot
― b( ۠·_۠·)b (Lamp), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 16:40 (fourteen years ago) link
theres stuff i still havent really unraveled either like the part w/ the grandpa reading nietzsche (?) to elizabeth (who is ~amazing~) and then theres the car window sequence. i have an 'idea' but idk
― b( ۠·_۠·)b (Lamp), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 16:42 (fourteen years ago) link
I liked A Christmas Tale watching the family dynamic in Summer Hours made the Desplechin movie look overwrought.
― Blue Fucks Like Ben Nelson (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 17:04 (fourteen years ago) link
thought arnie was indulging the heck out of his actors in this.
― free the charmless but occasionally brilliant Dom Passantino (history mayne), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 17:05 (fourteen years ago) link
*but watching
― Blue Fucks Like Ben Nelson (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 17:06 (fourteen years ago) link
the whole movie was p indulgent (and overwrought!) - dont really think thats a bad thing
iirc summer hours kinda sucked
― b( ۠·_۠·)b (Lamp), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 17:18 (fourteen years ago) link
^^ suggest ban
― Blue Fucks Like Ben Nelson (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 17:19 (fourteen years ago) link
yep.
― free the charmless but occasionally brilliant Dom Passantino (history mayne), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 17:19 (fourteen years ago) link
emmanuelle devos is the tits
― Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 26 January 2010 17:21 (fourteen years ago) link
i thought christmas tale broke a lot of storytelling rules but did it in a way that made me love it... the scene at the end with the coin flipping... the act of which is never set up earlier in the film at all... but it doesn't seem to matter. that was a great moment.
― I'm FINNISH!!!! (s1ocki), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 17:22 (fourteen years ago) link
The chat outside between Deneuve and Amalric was superb.
― Blue Fucks Like Ben Nelson (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 17:24 (fourteen years ago) link
the coin-flipping is kinda set-up by (or least fits in to) the talk abt gambling/game-playing that happens throughout
idk summer hours looked and felt kinda shabby
― b( ۠·_۠·)b (Lamp), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 17:24 (fourteen years ago) link
ya i guess, it just seemed to come sort of pre-packaged in that scene... in a good way tho
― I'm FINNISH!!!! (s1ocki), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 17:25 (fourteen years ago) link
― b( ۠·_۠·)b (Lamp), Tuesday, January 26, 2010 12:24 PM (33 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
well duh it's about old furniture
and old people
― Blue Fucks Like Ben Nelson (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 17:26 (fourteen years ago) link
h8 old stuff ---------> ˇsbˇ
― b( ۠·_۠·)b (Lamp), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 17:27 (fourteen years ago) link
Hey, I'm old, and on some mornings I look and smell like a footrest.
― Blue Fucks Like Ben Nelson (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 17:28 (fourteen years ago) link
suggérer interdiction
― I'm FINNISH!!!! (s1ocki), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 17:29 (fourteen years ago) link
"idk summer hours looked and felt kinda shabby"
the hell
― free the charmless but occasionally brilliant Dom Passantino (history mayne), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 17:29 (fourteen years ago) link
haha dont make me defend the stupid shit i post on ilx. i havent seen summer hours in like a year+ but im p sick and have not much to do but sit around and watch movies so ill rewatch it tonite if i can
― b( ۠·_۠·)b (Lamp), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 17:32 (fourteen years ago) link
just cuz i realize u were all deeply concerned abt this
― b( ۠·_۠·)b (Lamp), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 17:33 (fourteen years ago) link
I'll bring some chicken soup.
― Blue Fucks Like Ben Nelson (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 17:34 (fourteen years ago) link
rewatched kings and queen and their scenes were sum of my favorites in that
― 15 y.o. girls hellhole ratface (Lamp), Tuesday, 2 February 2010 23:45 (fourteen years ago) link
weird movie
― Steve Sharta (cozen), Friday, 23 April 2010 23:25 (fourteen years ago) link
v.rad tho
― Steve Sharta (cozen), Friday, 23 April 2010 23:28 (fourteen years ago) link
the first half or so of this was good, amalric on form and a sort of fractious energy that dissipated long before the end
― nakhchivan, Saturday, 24 April 2010 00:29 (fourteen years ago) link
movie is pretty devastating. i know i liked it, not sure what it is I liked about it. it's definitely stuck w/ me. Loved A Christmas Tale, too. And Summer Hours! French families. They crazy.
― tylerw, Saturday, 24 April 2010 02:16 (fourteen years ago) link
The family in Summer Hours is much more approachable, Also: I envy the French, and their insouciance about smoking (heavily) indoors.
― Throwing Muses are reuniting for my next orgasm! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 24 April 2010 02:18 (fourteen years ago) link
smoking indoors, enormous homes stuffed with books and art. c'est la vie. I'd say that those portrayals of French family life are totally unrealistic, but my French cousins' grandparents have a house pretty similar to those depicted in Christmas Tale and Summer Hours. I think I need to move in with them some day.
― tylerw, Saturday, 24 April 2010 02:25 (fourteen years ago) link
haha i nvr did get around 2 rewatching summer hours
smoking indoors, enormous homes stuffed with books and art. c'est la vie. I'd say that those portrayals of French family life are totally unrealistic, but my French cousins' grandparents have a house pretty similar to those depicted in Christmas Tale and Summer Hours. I think I need to move in with them some day
saw maren ade's everyone else recently & man srsly - umc europeans living beautifully framed lives alla fukken time.
― where display names die, unrecognized (Lamp), Saturday, 24 April 2010 17:29 (fourteen years ago) link
almaric talken 2 the kid @ the museum is somethin i reflect on like weekly fwiw - love this movie
― where display names die, unrecognized (Lamp), Saturday, 24 April 2010 17:30 (fourteen years ago) link
Really liked the scene between Nora's son and Ismael at the end of this. Tough watch leading up to it but it totally needs the concentration I can only get in a cinema.
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 24 April 2010 17:45 (fourteen years ago) link
finally watched this, yea prob loses something viewing @ home, but is good. like its fwd momentum in the face of all messy family dynamics a lot, characters are v well drawn. i should prob watch 'a christmas tale' sometime
― johnny crunch, Tuesday, 4 September 2012 13:40 (eleven years ago) link
the Criterion version of A Christmas Tale has a perfect freeze frame of Deneuve.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 9 January 2016 21:29 (eight years ago) link
NYC retro in advance of the new one
http://www.filmlinc.org/series/golden-days-the-films-of-arnaud-desplechin/#films
― we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 8 March 2016 04:53 (eight years ago) link
How was Jimmy P? I remember Richard Brody was high on it (interpret that as you please).
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 8 March 2016 11:48 (eight years ago) link
I didn't much like it, kind of half-baked.
― we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 8 March 2016 12:20 (eight years ago) link
since My Sex Life and others are in new DCPs in this series, i assume Blurays are coming
― we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 9 March 2016 21:33 (eight years ago) link
A Christmas Tale has become a comfort film.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 3 July 2018 12:09 (five years ago) link
“La Sentinelle” is weird. Borgesian even. Rosenbaum supposedly compared it to “Paris nous appartient” and I can get with that.
― SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Wednesday, 25 November 2020 20:39 (three years ago) link
It started as one.
― On average, this critic grades 8.3 points lower than other critics (Eric H.), Wednesday, 25 November 2020 21:06 (three years ago) link
https://thefilmstage.com/arnaud-desplechin-has-adapted-philip-roths-deception-with-lea-seydoux/
― johnny crunch, Tuesday, 15 December 2020 19:05 (three years ago) link
ooooh
― stylish but illegal (Simon H.), Tuesday, 15 December 2020 20:15 (three years ago) link