Mystery Science Theater 3000: C/D, S/D.

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Michael Daddino, Saturday, 12 January 2002 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Oh *please*, you ask this of me? What episodes *don't* I have on tape?

So gloriously fucking classic it hurts, period, etc. To explain why -- I always loved really bad movies, they're great. Seeing bad movies trashed by people who obviously had brains but weren't afraid of cheap shots either seemed like perfection, and the fact that the perpetrators were seemingly calm Minnesotans who had a clear and total loathing for bullshit of all sorts -- societal, cultural, political, philosophical - - made it all the more fun. Still my favorite ever TV show.

Search -- um, everything. Some episodes you don't need to see as many times, though, and sometimes ones that weren't as great initially become great with time. My Top Ten List At Present:

Manos, The Hands of Fate -- "Honey, I'm scared." "Of WHAT?"

The Starfighters -- "Bob Dornan, wild at heart."

Mitchell -- "She was going to smell like beer sooner or later."

Teenage Strangler -- "I didn't steal no bike neither!"

Overdrawn at the Memory Bank -- "My nuts?"

Red Zone Cuba -- "You and your swank restaurant and your chichi frog's legs!"

Agent From H.A.R.M. -- "There's the windup...and there's the smarm!"

Werewolf -- "C'mon, dead people know what's going to happen next!"

The Starfighters -- "I like coffee."

Pod People -- "Trumpy! You can do MAGIC things!"

Subject to change, but that's a good starter pack right there, along with Eegah!, Jack Frost, Parts: The Clonus Horror, Monster a Go-Go, The Girl in Gold Boots...

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 13 January 2002 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Oh yeah, and Deathstalker, naturally.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 13 January 2002 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

I absolutely adore this show, though I've only been able to see Sci- Fi episodes and only a handful of them at that due to infernal copyright issues (any channel wishing to broadcast it needs rights to both the episode and the film, thus only about 18 eps have been shown in the UK). So my knowledge of MST3K is very limited, but I'll add my vote to Overdrawn At The Memory Bank and Agent From H.A.R.M. - as for episodes to destroy, I haven't seen any eps that are bad but apparently the KTMA ones weren't that good, so destroy them.

Chris Lyons, Sunday, 13 January 2002 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

First, the lowdown. Classic? Oh my, yes.

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Favorite Episode Available on Rihno: I Accuse My Parents or Catalina Caper. Favorite Episode Overall: Alien From L.A.. Favorite Short: The Days of Our Years. Favorite Riff Sequences: The Beau Brummels at the Whiskey-A-Go-Go in Village of the Giants and Fat Linda Rondstadt in The Incredible Melting Man. Favorite Riff: The Albert Goldman/Greil Marcus ref in The Pod People and the "...Massapequa, Massapequa Park, Amityville, Copaigue, Lindenhurst and Babylon. Change at Jamaica for..." line in The Beatniks.

Destroy

The fifteen-minute promo they did for Nintendo; the "sandwich" sketch at the end of The Undead; the long string of lesbian jokes in Racket Girls; and, ultimately, the movie, which while v. good, probably should never have been made; and finally, the various asinine copyright issues that pretty much will ensure its limited availability in non-bootleg form to future generations.

Michael Daddino, Sunday, 13 January 2002 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

The fifteen-minute promo they did for Nintendo

Herein a mystery -- what is this? Given that they're such gaming addicts I'm not surprised they did it...

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 13 January 2002 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

I made a boo-boo. It was actually for Playstation Magazine. Riffing was good, as you can imagine, but it was genuinely painful to watch them hawk stuff. Kinda odd that I can't find more info about it.

Michael Daddino, Sunday, 13 January 2002 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Any film with Joe Don Baker or John Phillip Law is an absolute classic.

But if I'm being honest, I love nearly every one. The only one I think I would destroy is Hamlet, because the adaptation was so static and dull it was hard to make jokes from.

Nicole, Sunday, 13 January 2002 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Oh, and Ned should definitely make me some tapes. The ones on sci-fi I see all the time, but I miss the old episodes.

Nicole, Sunday, 13 January 2002 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Arrangements can be made. I need to get a second VCR for dubbing purposes first, though...

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 13 January 2002 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

And yes, I did forget Space Mutiny, didn't I? "HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH!"

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 13 January 2002 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Additional Commentary

I brought the subject up because I think it's high time we discussed it at length. A lot of Americans on ILx are pretty vocal about their MST3K-love, but for obvious reasons, much of the UK posse have never even seen the show. Those who have only know the Sci-Fi era shows (and can't get Rhino tapes, either), so they're only getting part of the fun.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not a Comedy-Central purist at all. The primary reason I got slowly peeved at the AOL NY MST3K contingent was because they were by and large vehemently Anti-Mike, going on and on about how the show was a bunch of boring crap now and how cute and sexy Joel was. I just couldn't see it. Admittedly, though, by the time MST3K left CC, the show's early, woozy charm had long faded away -- but it was replaced by something else that, while slick, was still awfully entertaining. (Charm isn't everything.) At the other end of the history spectrum, the KTMAs aren't bad at all, but all woozy charm and few laffs. Still, that won't matter if you're already a fan.

The worst movie they ever did was, easily, Monster A Go-Go. Scroungily overamped "What'd I Say"-rip at the beginning, but looooong stretches of black & white nothingness punctuated by perhaps the most infuriating cinematic anticlimax ever. Next in line is Manos: The Hands of Fate. It's my impression that MST3K almost single-handedly velcroed this flick onto the Canon of Bad Movies, and that's a good thing, because it's a startling artifact with a great story behind it.

Favorite Sci-Fi-era Episode: Jack Frost. Indeed, every episode involving a children's movie is sterling.

Best Acting in a MST3K Episode: Beverly Garland reads the riot act to The Celery From Outer Space in It Conquered The World. Bela Lugosi tells a fellow scientist off in Bride of the Monster.

Crow vs. Crow: Trace-Crow is more neurotic, Bill-Crow is more snide, yet once Bill got in the groove, I seriously think they were in equal in goodness.

Joel vs. Mike:

Extraneous thought: if in some alternative universe Catalina Caper was a good, no, GREAT movie, the Avalanches' album would be its soundtrack. Perhaps we could kindly suggest to Tim Burton a remake...

Michael Daddino, Sunday, 13 January 2002 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

it's a startling artifact with a great story behind it.

I was going to throw in a link to the article with all the info, but dammit, it's expired! Your vision of a new Catalina Caper thrills and disturbs my soul.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 13 January 2002 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Although I should at least throw in a link to the more or less official fan site, the Satellite News.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 13 January 2002 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

The Manos article is here.

Michael Daddino, Sunday, 13 January 2002 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

That's one of the reasons I could never get into any of the MST3K fan discussions/forums online, they all seem to suffer from this irrational hatred of Mike. It's so silly and pedantic. What's so wrong with liking Joel and Mike?

Nicole, Sunday, 13 January 2002 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Why do you say the movie should not have been made, Mike?

Josh, Sunday, 13 January 2002 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

For one, the movie didn't make any money, partly because Gramercy concentrated its promotional efforts on the Pamela Anderson vehicle Barb-Wire, which ended up belly-flopping anyway. Plus, I got this impression from some recent interview with a member of Best Brains (can't remember where I saw this) that they all ended up regretting ever making the thing in the first place. The whole process was too arduous and distracting and they had to deal with all the asshole suits who prided themselves on having a certain level of hepness, yet told BB to take out a joke about Bootsy Collins because they didn't know who was.

Michael Daddino, Sunday, 13 January 2002 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

The other weird indulgence of the AOL MSTies was the tongue-lashing Sampo, a.k.a. Chris Cornell (the mst3kinfo.com guy, not the Soundgarden guy), recieved on a regular basis. People seemed real irritated at the fact that he assumed the role of King of All MSTies rather quickly, and I attribute that to minor professional jealousy and peevishness over his pro-Mike stance, all caught in a spiral of ever-amplifying regicidal loathing that you often see online. (Sampo's sometime pomposity didn't help either.) Pettiness a go-go.

Michael Daddino, Sunday, 13 January 2002 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

dude, fuck all that. after joel left the show totally went to shit. joel really wanted to create a feeling with story /characters and consistancy. mike was just a hired writer. i think i read someone saying in another thread "after a while if felt like the ones running the show just didnt get 'it' "

chaki, Monday, 14 January 2002 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

As so many of us are such pynchon junkies, here's a great mst3k & pynchon link.

i is brit and loving the mst3k. it can grate if you're not in the right mood, but fuck that for a game of toy soldiers. I also liked the film (riffing on This Island Earth -- fave bit is when the alien is explaining about the fate of his planet "a-huh, yeah, yup... got ya... a-huh"

Alan Trewartha, Monday, 14 January 2002 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

In point of fact, Mike wasn't merely a "hired writer": as early as the second season, he was the Head Writer. Since MST3K was always a group effort, I think it's difficult to pinpoint one person who was responsible for any particular characteristic of the show. (Two obvious exceptions, of course, are the whole Gizmonics Institute business and the idea for the Invention Exchange.) So he may share some responsibility with Joel H. for creating the rather paternal relationship between Joel R. & the 'bots -- a relationship which, for obvious reasons, would be altered once Mike replaced Joel R. the SOL.

Michael Daddino, Monday, 14 January 2002 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

The funniest episode of MST3K I've ever seen is a Gammora movie that we watched on KTMA backstage during a high school show choir competition. I can't remember the name of the movie, but the bad monster was a giant gumball machine and the episode contained one of my favorite riffs ever (7-YEAR-OLD GIRL: I love you, Gamora! CROW: Keep your shirt on, honey.). Most of the others I've seen have come from the Sci-Fi years, but "Manos" is definitely classic. I will also put in a vote for "Overdrawn At The Memory Bank" if only because it's fun to watch Raul Julia in something embarrassing, plus "Squirm" and "The Final Sacrifice".

Dan Perry, Monday, 14 January 2002 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

I loved Overdrawn At The Memory Bank as a child. I believe I still have a video on it somewhere doubling up with Max Headroom.

Pete, Monday, 14 January 2002 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Ah, the AOL MSTie days. Got my first stalker out of that bunch.

Anyway, I adored the show. Was a staunch Mike defender in the Mike v. Joel days, now I'm not so sure. Favorite bit (of all time): "Are You Happy In Your Work?"

Colin Meeder, Monday, 14 January 2002 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

What the fuck are you doing here, Colin? :)

Michael Daddino, Monday, 14 January 2002 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Dan -- you saw a KTMA on the air? I envy and worship you, my liege.

Colin -- yeah, I remember you were torgotback@aol.com, but the stalking? No, not that.

The boards also attracted a number of true mental cases, most unforgettably KeijiKJ. He was similar to Gondola Blob in that he indulged in casebook net.kook behavior: delusions of professionalism, snottily dismissive of any random thing, threw around the word "clique" a lot. I've even heard stories that he scared the bejesus out of BB members during the first con. I personally had a thoroughly pointless argument with him about the population of the cities in California.

Concerning Mike, I'll say this: there are quite a few times during the Sci-Fi-era when he seemed to be sending out his performance via Fed Ex. Sad, because it was clear after CC he was capable of much better. But you know, a lot of the Sci-Fi-era episodes that initially seemed kinda minor and kinda eh to me now strike me as being thoroughly solid.

Michael Daddino, Monday, 14 January 2002 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

That was my first exposure to MST3K. I had no idea that it was going to become so huge; I only thought that snarky Minnesotans would find it funny!

Dan Perry, Monday, 14 January 2002 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Well, you're lucky and we hate you. There. ;-)

I'm waiting on Mike's next collection of essays and novel myself. The Megacheese collection was a scream.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 14 January 2002 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Michael: With you and Dave R. here, it was simply a matter of time.

Stalking resulted from an unfortunate IRL encounter with a nice enough person. I thought it was a lovely afternoon, she thought it was TRUE LOVE FOREVER. Eek. The story resolved harmlessly enough -- she found TRUE LOVE FOREVER again with another MSTie, and this time it was returned.

Colin Meeder, Monday, 14 January 2002 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

What the hell do I have to do with anything, Mr. Meeder? I've never seen you before in my life! (Weren't you supposed to get me a job?)

MST3K was never that big a part of my life - I watched it sporadically, and I always seemed to be in the wrong state of mind to truly enjoy it. I'll side with the Joel phreex, though, just because bald is sexy. (I'm getting sexier by the minute.)

David Raposa, Monday, 14 January 2002 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

DR: I'll side with the Joel phreex, though, just because bald is sexy. (I'm getting sexier by the minute.)

But wasn't Mike balder than Joel? I'm confused. No matter. I'm balder than both, and I agree with David.

Brian MacDonald, Monday, 14 January 2002 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm watching Rocketship X-M right now and it looks as if Joel is balder than Mike. I agree wholeheartedly that BALD(ING) = SEXXXY (my real and imaginary boyfriends are testament to this) but Joel really isn't bald enough to be sexy-bald.

Michael Daddino, Monday, 14 January 2002 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

grr, watch it daddino.

ethan, Monday, 14 January 2002 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Le huh?

Michael Daddino, Monday, 14 January 2002 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Let me second Ned's Mike Nelson's Movie Megacheese rec. Even if you don't like or are not familiar with MST3K it is an extrodinarily funny take on a lot of overblown movies of the 80s and 90s.

Nicole, Tuesday, 15 January 2002 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Had you gotten that job I mentioned, David, you'd have been laid off about five months ago. So I did you a favor by being a hopeless slacker.

I think that my slight preference for Joel has something to do with a sense that the guy's a bit . . . off, where Mike is merely charming and funny.

Colin Meeder, Tuesday, 15 January 2002 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Merely? I wouldn't go that far, though he certainly projects more immediate affability. But every so often he comes out with something or takes on a role that makes you a bit nervous. Thus, when he wigged out about his old temp job in one episode, and in Time Chasers where he played his drunk angry brother or cousin, I forget which. Sure, it's a role, but he inhabited them rather well. ;-)

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 15 January 2002 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Sampo once remarked that in interview, one can sense that there's something very dark and private about Mike just percolating below the surface, and that's colored my impression of him ever since. One thing to remember: "I suffer from excruciating headaches that dozens of neurologists have tried unsuccessfully to treat. I think I might be possessed."

Michael Daddino, Tuesday, 15 January 2002 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

I appreciate the fact that both Mike and Bridget are very private about their home life, but from the sound of it from some of Bridget's comments it's a very happy family, lots of singing and nuttiness and fun with their kids. A good reminder that the show was, after all, just a performance.

But yes, Mike has the angst in there somewhere. He just tempers it very beautifully -- thus his legendary turn as Morrissey.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 15 January 2002 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Fair enough -- Mike probably *is* a churning cauldren of angst. But I think he (and his rage) are probrably more based in reality, where Joel strikes me as more otherworldly. Which I prefer (slightly, only ever so slightly) in humor.

Colin Meeder, Thursday, 17 January 2002 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

one year passes...
Oh, about time for a revival (thanks in part to a recent link from Mike D.). Actually, there were a number of episodes I didn't have, mostly from the sixth season, but my Seattle trip has given me the chance to dub a lot of those from Brian's collection, yay me. Plus I finally have Daddy-O and Fugitive Alien, that took long enough!

To add to the book recommendations -- Mike N.'s general essay book Mind Over Matters is another fine read (the TV essay alone is some kinda genius, the mock 19th century novel even more so), while I very much liked Kevin Murphy's A Year at the Movies. Chris Piuma mentioned he felt it was fairly Joe Queenan-like and therefore not as distinct as it could be, but I think it was handled very well and worked as both microstudy of the moviegoing experience and general reflection. Certainly any of the ILF/film-going hounds on this board should consider reading/borrowing a copy, at least. Then there's Mike's new novel Death Rat, which I really need to order next month...

And praise to all the other castmembers doing things and the continual rolling out of more DVDs, though apparently Rhino says they've exhausted what they have the rights to right now and are looking into securing more, hopefully...

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 25 May 2003 15:08 (seventeen years ago) link

...although a quick check of the SatNews link sez there's some sort of further DVD thing coming out later this year, hm! Good thing to know. Also, anyone in Minneapolis can go to a writing workshop taught by Mary Jo Pehl next month, which I think would be great (I'm an unabashed fan of hers but she seems to really grate for a lot of MSTies...).

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 25 May 2003 15:11 (seventeen years ago) link

is this ever shown in the UK?

mark s (mark s), Sunday, 25 May 2003 15:12 (seventeen years ago) link

It may still be on the Sci-Fi Channel UK, but your best bet is to go on S0ulS33k and download entire episodes (which are about 700MB a pop, FWIW).

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Sunday, 25 May 2003 15:16 (seventeen years ago) link

I've never come across it here, Mark - but I have never had the Sci-Fi Channel.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 25 May 2003 15:21 (seventeen years ago) link

It was certainly on (late night) on the Sci-Fi channel a couple of years ago.

N. (nickdastoor), Sunday, 25 May 2003 15:24 (seventeen years ago) link

Michael, I kiss you! I had no idea there were mst3k episodes on soulseek.

Nicole (Nicole), Sunday, 25 May 2003 15:34 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, that sounds great, rah Mike! Nicole, I might be able to help with dubbing too though I still need a second VCR, but also please drop me a line about another possible source...

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 25 May 2003 15:52 (seventeen years ago) link

FYI, Best Brains Inc. has its own little shop with some non-Rhino treasures. I highly recommend "Mr. B's Lost Shorts" which has the hands-down best short, "Mr. B Natural" - you know, the one with the ridiculously perky, questionably-gendered Neverland shill for Conn brass instruments.

"Bad touch."
"Does this mean I like guys now?"
"I feel ill."
"Spanking time!"

http://www.mst3kinfo.com/satnews/catalog/Basement.htm
http://www.mst3kinfo.com/daddyo/images/mrb5.JPG

Ernest P. (ernestp), Sunday, 25 May 2003 15:58 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah, i still haven't made it through all the Netflix episodes, and at this point i doubt i ever will. :-/ i've tried popping it on to unwind at night but the overstimulated fear-of-silence riffing just doesn't mesh with the kind of chill i'm looking for.

this honking's on a bobo (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 6 April 2021 17:32 (one week ago) link

The best spirit-of-MST these days has easily been The Mads Are Back livestreams that started up last summer. One a month and they've all been delights.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 6 April 2021 18:26 (one week ago) link

The best spirit-of-MST these days has easily been The Mads Are Back livestreams that started up last summer. One a month and they've all been delights.


Yeah Trace and Frank are such a delight, and even their swearing is funny/endearing.

I don’t know if you are much into Rifftrax, Ned, but the chemistry between Bridget and Mary Jo is similar, very loose and sometimes more personally revealing.

In on the killfile (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 6 April 2021 18:39 (one week ago) link

I do follow Rifftrax and yeah, that's a partnership that's been pretty great. (That said, per upthread comments when Mike's more questionable choices blew up again last summer, sometimes you gotta wonder about that family.)

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 6 April 2021 20:00 (one week ago) link

Hmmm.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 7 April 2021 15:04 (one week ago) link

having their own app seems pointless, why not just put it on Shout Factory's thing or even just their Youtube channel?

( X '____' )/ (zappi), Wednesday, 7 April 2021 15:16 (one week ago) link

Yeah the fact that Shout Factory coowns MST3K with Joel is my big sticking point here.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 7 April 2021 15:19 (one week ago) link

I mean, I have multiple sticking points at this point of sticking.

avatar of a kind of respectability homosexual culture (Eric H.), Wednesday, 7 April 2021 15:28 (one week ago) link

Well, that too!

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 7 April 2021 15:33 (one week ago) link

I suspect I'll do exactly what I did with the last one -- contribute $1 and see what the updates say.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 7 April 2021 15:34 (one week ago) link

The first time around, I definitely gave good.

avatar of a kind of respectability homosexual culture (Eric H.), Wednesday, 7 April 2021 15:35 (one week ago) link

the Pluto TV app for Roku has a channel that shows MST3k 24 hours a day year round

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 7 April 2021 15:38 (one week ago) link

My go to when firing that up for background noise while working but I’ve noticed they do seem to be rerunning some of them much more frequently than others. Especially the coiley short.

avatar of a kind of respectability homosexual culture (Eric H.), Wednesday, 7 April 2021 15:44 (one week ago) link

Anyway, up and running. Now, who has a spare $25,000?

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/mst3k/makemoremst3k

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 7 April 2021 18:45 (one week ago) link

I’ll take a servo @ 7.5K (i do not have that money)

You've got kids, make them earn their keep

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 7 April 2021 19:09 (one week ago) link

I do not!

smh at Ned's .xls error

Canon in Deez (silby), Wednesday, 7 April 2021 19:13 (one week ago) link

Corrupted data. I blame society.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 7 April 2021 19:21 (one week ago) link

Anyway I do appreciate the cost breakdown

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 7 April 2021 19:28 (one week ago) link

Also they're already up to about half a million so I suspect they'll hit their 6.6 million ultimate stretch goal with ease.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 7 April 2021 19:30 (one week ago) link

$25k doesnt include shipping on the various merch rewards, so really its like $25,012.50 - nice try, Joel

nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Wednesday, 7 April 2021 19:50 (one week ago) link

I’m sitting this one out.

In on the killfile (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 7 April 2021 20:17 (one week ago) link

am I blind or is there no confirmation of any of the cast for this?

( X '____' )/ (zappi), Wednesday, 7 April 2021 20:50 (one week ago) link

Well per the video it's the returning SoL Netflix crew at least, and presumably the photo of Oswalt and Day in the promo image confirm them.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 7 April 2021 20:52 (one week ago) link

just seems weird that they want money for a TV show but won't state clearly who is going to be in the TV show. wiggle room I guess.

( X '____' )/ (zappi), Wednesday, 7 April 2021 20:58 (one week ago) link

starring... Shane Gillis and Michael Richards

Dana Jel Pey (DJP), Wednesday, 7 April 2021 21:05 (one week ago) link

Which makes me think of

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vN84P7OISmc

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 7 April 2021 21:08 (one week ago) link

lost it starting with "Thomas Aquinas!"

sgt. pepper's one-and-only bobo honkin' band (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 7 April 2021 21:16 (one week ago) link

I hope they learn from their mistakes and listen to viewer feedback this time.

wasdnuos (abanana), Wednesday, 7 April 2021 22:20 (one week ago) link

maybe the viewers can feedback via little talking heads at the bottom of the screen

Piven After Midnight (The Yellow Kid), Wednesday, 7 April 2021 22:37 (one week ago) link

Interview with Joel here:

https://tv.avclub.com/exclusive-joel-hodgson-says-it-s-time-to-makemoremst3-1846634073

Also they're approaching $1.5 million and it's not even been twelve hours -- for the first time around the day one total was $850,000. This might all be more of a big blowout than we realize!

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 8 April 2021 01:39 (one week ago) link

Interesting vibes there. The comment about not having to pitch it to a suit .... I wonder, has anyone from the Netflix era ever indicated anything about the show that was in any way pushed from the Netflix end? Or did the nature of the deal give them creative freedom?

sgt. pepper's one-and-only bobo honkin' band (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 8 April 2021 02:03 (one week ago) link

MST will be an NFT.

In on the killfile (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 8 April 2021 02:07 (one week ago) link

Just what we needed.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 8 April 2021 02:15 (one week ago) link

In terms of the vibe -- Netflix is clearly in a position of not having to answer to anyone about their choices, so no, to my knowledge nothing has surfaced, probably only a bland statement or two. It's worth remembering that the previous Kickstarter got the show filmed and the Netflix deal happened after the season itself was in the can, so it can't have been that Netflix thought they spent too much money on the production straight up, though presumably there was some further deal. I'm sure Shout Factory and Joel were more than a little miffed at the opacity in the end.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 8 April 2021 02:18 (one week ago) link

It’s been reported that Netflix finds that seasons beyond the 2nd of their original series generally don’t have a measurable effect on subscriptions iirc

Canon in Deez (silby), Thursday, 8 April 2021 02:23 (one week ago) link

I thought it was three rather than two? Seems to be a magic number.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 8 April 2021 02:25 (one week ago) link

it is crazy to me that anything at all has any effect on their subscriptions. everyone i know, whatever else they do with their lives, also has netflix. to my knowledge no one ever cancels it or subscribes to it. like the fact that they shovel out content at the pace they do blows my mind because surely they could halve it and experience no measurable drop in income.

sgt. pepper's one-and-only bobo honkin' band (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 8 April 2021 02:55 (one week ago) link

Fun detail -- Jonah is responding to a number of the comments on the Kickstarter page.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 8 April 2021 03:12 (one week ago) link

Anyway initial funding goal reached in a little over a day, so I'm guessing $5.5 million will happen when all is said and done.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 8 April 2021 19:26 (one week ago) link

Msties are indeed the craziest of fans, in a good way.

avatar of a kind of respectability homosexual culture (Eric H.), Thursday, 8 April 2021 19:47 (one week ago) link

yeah, the average donation is currently hovering around $190, which is pretty absurd.

Judi Dench's Human Hand (methanietanner), Thursday, 8 April 2021 19:52 (one week ago) link

I did like Jonah's comment a few minutes back: "Wow, look at all those pledges... PREEEEETTY NIIIIIIICE!"

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 8 April 2021 19:54 (one week ago) link

Actually what's kinda fucking crazy is that they've since added almost another $50K. Allowing for late evening/early morning slowdown that still puts them in range to hitting $3.3 million conceivably as early as late tomorrow or the weekend? But we'll see how this shakes out, normally there's a big initial rush then a ticking along before a final rush.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 8 April 2021 19:58 (one week ago) link

First note from Joel from it all:

The last 24 hours have been so crazy that I don't know what to say. When we decided to come back and do another Kickstarter – and to do it after a year-long worldwide pandemic – we weren't really sure how things would go.

The last time we tried this, it took us almost a week to reach our first goal, and make three episodes... so I guess I figured if we could do that again, we'd be off to a really good start.

But yeah, as you might have noticed, things went a little faster this time...

And it goes from there. I hadn't remembered it had needed a week for the first goal last time out, I don't blame him for being surprised!

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 8 April 2021 23:58 (one week ago) link

New update from Joel clarifies some further details and reconfirms the (kinda) obvious, that it's the returning cast from the last two seasons but also dropped a pretty heavy hint that Emily from the live shows last year will be involved too, a good thing.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 9 April 2021 23:11 (one week ago) link

Chugging along and about to hit halfway to the main final goal. New update with some details

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/mst3k/makemoremst3k/posts/3158936

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 13 April 2021 19:27 (five days ago) link

Meantime on tonight's Mads are Back stream (with Kevin Murphy as a guest), one of the questions the moderator passed along -- saying they were getting a lot of people asking -- was whether either of the Mads or Kevin were involved with this new effort. Kevin politely begged off and noted he had Rifftrax but let's just say it was PLENTY clear that Frank and Trace still feel some ill will over everything that happened, though they tried to keep it relatively smooth. (Trace, not entirely.)

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 14 April 2021 03:14 (four days ago) link


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