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is an animated television program on the Fox network (snigger). It is a Mike Judge (of Beavis and Butthead and Office Space) program. It is consistently filled with, in my opinion, hilarious gags. Or perhaps I am just an anti-Laotian prick. It also consistently attempts to treat "meaningful" themes, especially those having to do with family life. When the show started (i.e. closer to when Beavis and Butthead was on the air) I found this a bit disconcerting. Now it seems fine to me.

So, uh, anyway, discuss. Also note repeated recourse to 'awkward' humor, where awkwardness of a character's behavior (often Peggy) is apparently supposed to be funny. OR IS IT? Also note unnervingly accurate satire of the distanced nature of mid-americanness. Cf. Hank's lines especially ("if you weren't my son, I'd hug you right now" etc.).

Josh, Friday, 11 January 2002 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

King Of The Hill = Simpsons without gags for kids. This obviously makes it less popular (but is still grate). I was really in to it a couple of years ago (the Nacar episode with Bobby as the Go-To boy left me with a bit of a nickname for a while) but channel 4 now show it at bizarre times.

Introduced me to the fearful concept of Rodeo Clowns...

Pete, Friday, 11 January 2002 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

I like it.

DG, Friday, 11 January 2002 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

are you the kids been whacking off fin my camper?

geoff, Friday, 11 January 2002 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Chuck Mangione breaking into His Song during a funeral for Buckley ("...Hi.") - PRICELESS.

David Raposa, Friday, 11 January 2002 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Very strange to see the geezer Josh - usually so in-touch with the buttons and buzzers of pop culture - bring this up now, almost as if it's new. Even the pinefox was taping it in 1997.

I think it's a magnificent programme - probably a tad better than The Simpsons, but with the caveat that The S is is more long-running and has stood test of time / continual success etc better than almost anything (?).

Episodes of KOTH stay hilarious on repeated viewings. Only other 90s prog to do this so well = Match of the Day?

Much more to be said.

the pinefox, Friday, 11 January 2002 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Wonderful programme. Often filled with moments of great poignancy. The awkwardness and emotional reserve of the charecters gives a certain bitter-sweet pleasure. It's 'funny' cos it's true. We are invited to laff with them out of recognition, whereas Beavis & Butthead are, in the main, there to be laughed at. But, yeah, Goh-damn it, it's funny

DavidM, Friday, 11 January 2002 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

I have two problems with this show.

1. I grew up with people like this. My family wasn't really like the Hill family, but almost everyone else's was - gas-fired barbecues, guns, football, an instinctual homophobia and conservatism, a fondness for church. So no matter HOW funny it was I'd still probably be simultaneously unnerved and bored - the same way I felt about Dana Carvey's "Church Lady" character.

2. For a cartoon it is really unimaginative, art-wise. As a writer, or director, I figure the main attraction to animation is that you can do other things with it than you can with just live-action actors in rooms and sets. (My uncharitable suspicion is that the "other thing" allowed by the animation is that they get to make fun of their characters, which would be less defensible and harder to do with live action.)

Tracer Hand, Friday, 11 January 2002 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

'make fun of their characters' - this is key I think. Note how Simpsons and Family Guy also do this unendingly, although those two shows also have much higher proportions of surrealistic gags, or at the very least unrealistic ones like flooding a lunchroom with lard, or say a ripoff of a toothpaste commercial with Peter Griffin as a cavity.

Pinefox, I am well aware that this is not new. But I am back in a house with a television, and reruns of this program are now conveniently right after the Simpsons and before Seinfeld = I watch a lot of KOTH, catching up on years of being too busy to catch it at normal times.

Josh, Friday, 11 January 2002 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Here's a hypothesis: if KOTH is better than Simpsons as PF sez, maybe it has something to do with KOTH's sticking to 'real' (though sometimes weird) stories and actually attempting to resolve them in a normal sitcom-type way, as opposed to Simpsons where they have apparently chosen to write fewer such stories and take care of things more with deus ex machina and Homer-logic, WHICH falls short when the gags start to fall short (I have no problem with it if there are still gags!).

Josh, Friday, 11 January 2002 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

My father dislikes both the Simpsons and KotH. Recently I asked him why. "I don't watch cartoons," he said.

Tracer Hand, Friday, 11 January 2002 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Does he ever watch Disney or read the comics page? If so, mock him loudly as a bad father for his hypocrisy.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 11 January 2002 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

My dad refuses to watch cartoons also. When I was home over Christmas he also said 'I'm not watching this crap.' I did catch him laughing at King of the Hill once though.

Josh, Friday, 11 January 2002 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Is there a qualitative difference between the way the Simpsons make fun of their characters and the way KotH does it?

Tracer Hand, Friday, 11 January 2002 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Well on KOTH the main characters seem more like real people to me, even as much as I love the Simpsons. That makes the fun-making on the Simpsons more silly and abstract (though not always). On KOTH it often seems meaner because less abstract. ("Fat white lump!")

Josh, Friday, 11 January 2002 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

i agree with pinefox yet again

help...RAGANOK APPROACHES !

the boy ain't right, Friday, 11 January 2002 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm Heimdall, then. Guarding the damn bridge against the idjits.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 11 January 2002 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Ragnarok. Get your vikings right, damnit.

Maria, Friday, 11 January 2002 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

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Norman Phay, Friday, 11 January 2002 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

I am quite confused!

Maria, Friday, 11 January 2002 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

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Geordie Racer, Saturday, 12 January 2002 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

the north will rise again-ah

(not in ten thousand years-ah)

amused prestwich readah, Saturday, 12 January 2002 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Stop ruining my goh-damn thread you wankers.

Josh, Saturday, 12 January 2002 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

we are explaining it josh, with theatre

mark s, Saturday, 12 January 2002 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Oh go work on your book Sinker.

Josh, Saturday, 12 January 2002 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

We are his book. He's like a far superior version of You Know Who.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 12 January 2002 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

I like KOTH though I haven't seen it for ages. It doesn't make fun of its characters in the same way as the Simpsons, or at least the balance between smart-ass liberal satire and respect and fondness for the world it depicts is a lot more even. My favourite episode is the one where Bobby falls in love with Luanne's plastic beautician school head.

N., Monday, 14 January 2002 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

"Geordie Racer... now *there's* a name I haven't heard in a long time..."

the pinefox, Tuesday, 15 January 2002 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

The one where Hank is accused of renting PORN is great.

DG, Tuesday, 15 January 2002 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

three years pass...
Speaking of comedy...

King Of The Hill is, in my opinion, still as strong today as it was years ago! I am constantly in awe of newer episodes that are near flawless. dialogue, performances, plot, teh funny, etc. from beginning, middle, to end. do people forget about how good it is? is it taken for granted? should i just use the word "underrated" and be done with it. i'm guessing there is a mike judge thread somewhere where people talk about the show after 2002 on ILX.

scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 23 April 2005 22:12 (fifteen years ago) link

I had a few words for it on FT over Easter, Scott - I'm a big admirer.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Saturday, 23 April 2005 22:23 (fifteen years ago) link

it's a brilliant show, and since it started airing, it's been better than "The Simpsons" across the board.

"My name is Mr. Big..."

Gear! (can Jung shill it, Mu?) (Gear!), Saturday, 23 April 2005 23:07 (fifteen years ago) link

I heart KOH

Miss Misery (thatgirl), Sunday, 24 April 2005 04:36 (fifteen years ago) link

I think its weakest seasons were the first two! Its gone nowhere but up.

Lethal Dizzle (djdee2005), Sunday, 24 April 2005 07:49 (fifteen years ago) link

It's told me everything I need to know about Texas, Sam. I just need to know which of you and Dee is Peggy and which Luanne.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 24 April 2005 08:31 (fifteen years ago) link

Sam is Boomhauer and Dee is Cotton!

j blount (papa la bas), Sunday, 24 April 2005 08:51 (fifteen years ago) link

lol hank has a narrow eurethra lol peggy is dumb lol bobby is fat and kinda gay lol propane lol chuck mangione

i just explained all the jokes you will ever see on king of the hill, there is no need to watch it now

webber (webber), Sunday, 24 April 2005 10:21 (fifteen years ago) link

It's not a very funny show. Every episode has a sappy sentimental ending where Hank smiles wistfully, everyone's enjoying a picnic, or Bill's being honored on an aircraft carrier.

And all that's between is Dale saying "Boy, this is a funny situation. Wonder how you're going to get out of it, Hank?" and Boomhauer talks really fast.

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Sunday, 24 April 2005 14:41 (fifteen years ago) link

as a Texan i love this show (and i often wonder how much of the humor carries over) -- i didn't realize how accurate (if obviously exaggerated) a depiction of Texas it was until I left for a while. i like the obvious affection the show has for its characters (which translates to an affection for people from this part of the country--which is rare). peggy hill's poor spanish is just a perfect regional joke.

ryan (ryan), Sunday, 24 April 2005 14:46 (fifteen years ago) link

I remember interviewing Judge as part of a press conference thing for the Beavis and Butthead movie and he was quietly proud and excited talking about the imminent debut of King of the Hill, you could tell he was looking forward to using his relative clout to get something he'd oversee on the air (as MTV had locked down ownership of B&B). While I've not watched the show much there's always been a good zinger or two whenever I did, and I like the fact that his hopes back in late 1995 have translated into something with an even longer run than B&B.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 24 April 2005 14:54 (fifteen years ago) link

This used to be my favorite program until Peggy Hill's parachute jump caused the show's shark jump.

Search: The Propaniacs.

Ken L (Ken L), Sunday, 24 April 2005 15:00 (fifteen years ago) link

and i often wonder how much of the [Texan] humor carries over...

The start of that one episode where Bobby points to the sky at a barbecue and says, "Look, it's ashes!" when it turns out to be snow, and everyone wrecks their car pulling out of the parking lot... that was pretty close to the bone, I tells you.

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Sunday, 24 April 2005 15:22 (fifteen years ago) link

I watch it, and enjoy it, while I am really bothered by its politics. I don't like the way the show sets up these straw "liberal" targets, and am suspicious of anything that sets up "common sense" as the goal to which we as Americans aspire. As a celebration of provincialism it's annoying and simple-minded, even though it's never quite as simplistic as you might think. But it is kind of what this country is like, I guess, during this horrible era. And I think Bobby's pretty funny, getting gout from his chicken-liver fix. I've visited Texas many times and have had a good time, but I'm not a Texan and that whole mentality gets under my skin a little bit.

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Sunday, 24 April 2005 20:16 (fifteen years ago) link

one year passes...
A ten year run! (And I got my story of the Mike Judge interview wrong, it was obv. late 1996, not late 1995.)

Revival prompted in part by Wikiquote browsing and finding this exchange:

Dale: "So it turns out I'm not the actual Dale Gribble, but a clone of him. The original Dale Gribble is a super-warrior from the year 2087. The second me, i.e. I, was created to help the first me fight the invading Mongol armies."

Hank: "Dale, that's asinine, and here's four reasons why. First, you're not gonna clone a super-warrior out of a guy who can't even win a thumb-wrestling match. Two, you've spent your life swearing that the robots will eliminate the clones by the year 2010, so which is it, robots or clones? Three, you've already said you sympathize with the invading Mongolians of 2087, so you'd be the last one they'd send to fight them. And four, if you were from the future, you would have seen this coming." (Punches Dale in the arm)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 16:52 (fourteen years ago) link

the most underrated show ever?

A B C (sparklecock), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 16:57 (fourteen years ago) link

Peggy should know Hank can't enjoy himself at a party until he knows where the bathroom is.

andrew m. (andrewmorgan), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 17:05 (fourteen years ago) link

great show

deej.. (deej..), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 17:11 (fourteen years ago) link

i knew i would love my ex for all time when she told me years ago that bobby hill was her personal hero

acid waffle house (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 21:38 (fourteen years ago) link

i am going to watch this when i get home from work

ai lien (kold_krush), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 22:00 (fourteen years ago) link

A ten year run!

Wow. I remember when it debuted when I was in college, and we'd all see who could run to the TV fast enough to turn it off after The Simpsons was over.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 22:04 (fourteen years ago) link

or who it was i guess, since the show's over. (except for a few more episodes to maybe air in the fall?)

would you ask tom petty that? (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 16 June 2009 15:02 (eleven years ago) link

love this show

Molecular Man (Ste), Tuesday, 16 June 2009 15:09 (eleven years ago) link

Not sure who the demographic is but it has been my favourite fox cartoon for a long time, sad to see it go.

Mornington Crescent (Ed), Tuesday, 16 June 2009 15:13 (eleven years ago) link

congratulations on not fitting into any demographic

congratulations (n/a), Tuesday, 16 June 2009 15:14 (eleven years ago) link

Anyone paid any attention to the Goode family?

Mornington Crescent (Ed), Tuesday, 16 June 2009 15:18 (eleven years ago) link

I think Goode Family is showing potential, but there are a lot of traps in the approach, and it's falling into some of 'em. Maybe a lot.

Subtlest Fart Joke (Oilyrags), Tuesday, 16 June 2009 16:05 (eleven years ago) link

Where do you live, Tipsy? Quebec City?

Pleasant Plains, Tuesday, 16 June 2009 16:59 (eleven years ago) link

I watched couple, definitely showing potential, however I kind of expect it to die a death seeing as ABC have consigned it to friday nights over the summer and they seem not to be promoting it at all, (ABC's awful awful streaming player doesn't help either)

Mornington Crescent (Ed), Wednesday, 17 June 2009 00:51 (eleven years ago) link

Where do you live, Tipsy? Quebec City?

nyc. i have no idea why my friends don't know king of the hill, except that maybe they think of it as some kinda red-state thing.

would you ask tom petty that? (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 17 June 2009 01:07 (eleven years ago) link

I'm pretty sure people in Quebec City would know King of the Hill (they even have it dubbed in french in Quebecand hank is changed to Henri)

So is it over or what?

EDB, Wednesday, 17 June 2009 01:13 (eleven years ago) link

apparently so, to make way for All Seth MacFarlane Sunday. I hope someone picks it up, the last series has been on great form.

Mornington Crescent (Ed), Wednesday, 17 June 2009 01:35 (eleven years ago) link

The Propaniacs still rule.

barney kestrel (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 17 June 2009 01:42 (eleven years ago) link

I'm pretty sure people in Quebec City would know King of the Hill (they even have it dubbed in french in Quebecand hank is changed to Henri)

How in the hell do they handle the dubbing on Boomhauer?

Pleasant Plains, Wednesday, 17 June 2009 15:46 (eleven years ago) link

I gotta try watching the dvds with the closed captioning on sometimes.

For other uses, see Cornhole (disambiguation). (Oilyrags), Wednesday, 17 June 2009 16:07 (eleven years ago) link

eleven months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlbY18HDCYI

iiiijjjj, Thursday, 27 May 2010 17:30 (ten years ago) link

I'm pretty sure people in Quebec City would know King of the Hill (they even have it dubbed in french in Quebecand hank is changed to Henri)

omg I must find this

iatee, Thursday, 27 May 2010 17:38 (ten years ago) link

one year passes...

*Hank walks in looking through the mail"

"Bills, bills, bills. Why do we keep getting Bill's mail?"

andrew m., Tuesday, 19 July 2011 01:40 (nine years ago) link

On the dvd of the first season, there were a few eps that had "character commentaries". That ep had Peggy and Bobby;when that joke came up, they were all like, "Why does he try to be funny?"

Mucho! Macho! Honcho!: Turn Off The Dark (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 01:43 (nine years ago) link

I forgot how much I love this show.

ladies love draculas like children love stray dogs (ENBB), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 01:58 (nine years ago) link

man, the one where Hank mistakenly smokes a joint is so incredible

frogbs, Thursday, 28 July 2011 16:18 (nine years ago) link

three months pass...

from "Blood and Sauce"

Bobby: Mr. Dauterive, there's a blender right there with a "chop" setting. I bet it could get through these onions in no time.

Bill: (chuckles knowingly) Well, that's fine if I'm grinding up old sandwiches for breakfast hash, but as my Uncle Honore always said, "Shortcuts taste likeun chien mart! (spits) Eh?"

andrew m., Wednesday, 9 November 2011 17:27 (nine years ago) link

four years pass...

http://imgur.com/a/PiJLk

thrusted pelvis-first back (ulysses), Wednesday, 22 June 2016 16:54 (four years ago) link

three years pass...

Hank after sending Dale extra paranoid by kidnapping his mower: "We're putting pressure on a structure that wasn't up to code in the first place."

GK Chessington's World of Adventure (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 25 January 2020 02:26 (one year ago) link

^^Possibly the greatest of all KoTH eps.

a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 25 January 2020 05:56 (one year ago) link

It's a good one for sure

GK Chessington's World of Adventure (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 25 January 2020 06:19 (one year ago) link

one month passes...

pic.twitter.com/fhA9Ykpqbz

— Mike Judge (@MikeJudge) March 20, 2020

a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 20 March 2020 22:27 (ten months ago) link

ice cold

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 20 March 2020 23:09 (ten months ago) link

three months pass...

I found a French Canadian fan dub of King of the Hill and Boomhower is just... pic.twitter.com/VKharSf8vd

— 🦌🎈Buckley🌹🌺 (@Chronoexpert39) June 30, 2020

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Wednesday, 1 July 2020 05:33 (six months ago) link

lol

Two Meter Peter (Ste), Wednesday, 1 July 2020 07:39 (six months ago) link

two months pass...

So, okay, I passively watched the first season of this when it first aired (in much the same way that I passively watched Ned and Stacy, which preceded KOTH in the mid-Simpsons/X-Files timeslot) and thought it was okay but, well, it was during a time of upheaval in my life just before my contemporaneous tv viewing largely came to a halt, so I never got any further. But I started rewatching from the beginning and...hey, it's actually a whole lot better than I remember. Probably too subtle and sly for me to have fully appreciated 20+ years ago. This is quality COVID-era viewing: at least one solid belly laugh per episode plus legit and unsaccharine feelings. Just what I need to break the monotony of staring at a wall as I quietly weep.

Don't be such an idot. (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 2 September 2020 01:32 (four months ago) link

So you're a Bill?

"...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 2 September 2020 01:41 (four months ago) link

pretty, pretty dresses ...

budo jeru, Wednesday, 2 September 2020 01:44 (four months ago) link

Reminding me I need to see the last couple seasons, I loved the show but didn't have time to watch and no VCR or Tivo.

Boring, Maryland, Wednesday, 2 September 2020 18:08 (four months ago) link

I'm in the same boat as OL, I must've been like 13 when it premiered and I remember thinking "man this is really not funny", nowadays I can get easily watch 2-3 hours of clips on YouTube

frogbs, Wednesday, 2 September 2020 19:10 (four months ago) link

I will test it on my kids tonight and see what they think.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 2 September 2020 19:12 (four months ago) link

I had forgotten how complex the politics on this show could get

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKOKYrKRjwQ

frogbs, Wednesday, 2 September 2020 19:16 (four months ago) link

also I feel like in retrospect they sort of pioneered the YTP/Vic Berger aesthetic before that was even a thing, a lot of these clips I have to remind myself that they're not edited

frogbs, Wednesday, 2 September 2020 19:26 (four months ago) link

I'm in the same boat as OL, I must've been like 13 when it premiered and I remember thinking "man this is really not funny", nowadays I can get easily watch 2-3 hours of clips on YouTube

― frogbs, Wednesday, September 2, 2020 12:10 PM (sixteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

im in a similar boat. didn't hate it when it came out but was far from loving it. if I watch an episode now, 20 odd years later, I love it

rascal clobber (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 2 September 2020 19:27 (four months ago) link

It was legitimately shocking for me to discover recently that this thing was on the air until 2010.

Don't be such an idot. (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 2 September 2020 19:50 (four months ago) link

this was consistently great when it was on and remains by far the best thing mike judge has ever done

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 2 September 2020 19:51 (four months ago) link

I guess this must just be how I come to Mike Judge shows. I couldn't stand watching Beavis & Butthead when it was first airing because it reminded me too much of real-life dipshits in my high school. Then I revisited it a decade and a half later and realized, oh hey, this shit is genuinely hilarious.

Don't be such an idot. (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 2 September 2020 19:54 (four months ago) link

Guns: The security video showing the "last seen alive" of Reese Witherspoon's character was great.

https://i.imgur.com/DdXzXQd.png

pplains, Wednesday, 2 September 2020 20:31 (four months ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmSORFI2XzU

pplains, Wednesday, 2 September 2020 23:45 (four months ago) link

Verdict from the 15-year old is positive! Doubt it will be her first choice, but she definitely liked it, and Greg Daniels' name definitely made an impression, fwiw. .

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 3 September 2020 00:28 (four months ago) link

feel like I quit watching it in real time right before Lucky showed up. I could probably stand to rewatch from the beginning. 13 seasons is a lot tho

A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Thursday, 3 September 2020 01:12 (four months ago) link

four months pass...

im watching this through for the first time - i watched it at the time but not consistently every week and only for the first 5 or 6 seasons. caught the odd episode of the later seasons but only very few. it holds up tremendously well. it is much better than i remember it being even. i feel that perhaps the family relationships and emotional moments were probably wasted on me as a teenage boy and now "hit different" as i approach middle-age. i am on season 4 and wondering when the it will start to lose its lustre.

id forgotten just how sociopathically narcissistic peggy is

Fenners' Pen (jim in vancouver), Monday, 11 January 2021 22:10 (two weeks ago) link

another reflection: this show is wonderfully directed and its depiction of its specific geographical place in the world is exceptional. when i think of the quality of recent popular animated shows - especially something like big mouth, which looks like utter shit - it seems even more exceptional

Fenners' Pen (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 12 January 2021 20:14 (one week ago) link

I fell off after watching most of the first two seasons but you are inspiring me to pick it back up.

Meat Chew All the Way (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 12 January 2021 20:18 (one week ago) link

agree with all that. when KotH came out I was barely a teenager, the show didn't make sense to me then but I really love it now. I can't think of an animated comedy series with more three-dimensional characters. I love that none of the main characters are caricatures, they all seem very real in a way you don't see often in a sitcom.

maybe this is just curmudgeonly grumbling of a 90's kid but growing up I remember every animated show having its own very distinct style; The Simpsons, KotH, Rugrats, Rocko, Home Movies, all the weird MTV shit...now everything looks like an ugly Family Guy crossover.

frogbs, Tuesday, 12 January 2021 20:23 (one week ago) link

Yeah, kind of really hate that 'overly-slick digitally-animated replication of 2D hand-drawn animation, oh and P.S. every character must have Garfield-style eyes' shit.

Meat Chew All the Way (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 12 January 2021 20:25 (one week ago) link


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