Buying A House: C or D?

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Who here owns their own home? Did you buy something that was already in good shape, or did you fix it up? Do you have tenants? Etc.

Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 14:46 (fourteen years ago) link

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!

I'll let you know in a few weeks when we've finally exchanged.

Please Snap StressTwig (kate), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 14:47 (fourteen years ago) link

Scary as hell, isn't it?
And I'm just going to open houses at this point.

Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 14:47 (fourteen years ago) link

In short:
Yup: 8 yrs ago: 250%

mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 14:48 (fourteen years ago) link

I managed to buy my own house last year. It's only 25 years old, but it needed more doing to it than we thought.

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 14:48 (fourteen years ago) link

I'm really luck I've got work for a really good IFA so it's been far less stressful than it would have been otherwise.

Please Snap StressTwig (kate), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 14:49 (fourteen years ago) link

Being able to afford one on your own, classic.
Having to be a couple to afford one, ooooh, it’ll get messy!

not-goodwin (not-goodwin), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 14:49 (fourteen years ago) link

The true stress of buying a house is having it all fall through. The house buying process that is, not the actual house itself.

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 14:52 (fourteen years ago) link

On one hand, I kind of wish that I was buying one as half a couple - could afford more, could have someone else running around chasing after estate agents and the like.

But on the other hand, I'd have to let an icky BOY live in my house then.

Please Snap StressTwig (kate), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 14:52 (fourteen years ago) link

The most fun was being scheduled to go the title office on 9/11... when for some odd reason they weren't open.

M. White (Miguelito), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 14:54 (fourteen years ago) link

I can't imagine buying a home on my own. You're brave.
In short:
Yup: 8 yrs ago: 250%

does this mean your home has increased in value by 250% in 8 yrs?

Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 14:56 (fourteen years ago) link

also, who here is a landlord? if I can get a basement tenant to pay a chunk of my mortgage every month, why not? or is it too much work?

Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 14:58 (fourteen years ago) link

note: i hate hard work.

Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 15:00 (fourteen years ago) link

http://www.futurelicensing.com/images/tick.gif

xpost.

mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 15:00 (fourteen years ago) link

wow, congrats! that's encouraging. are you going to cash in now or hold onto it?

Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 15:02 (fourteen years ago) link

(and risk "losing" your "profits")

Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 15:19 (fourteen years ago) link

May 2003: bought house
August 2004: drip through bathroom ceiling begins, complain to upstairs neighbours
September 2004: drip continues, as do complaints
October 2004: drip gets worse, ceiling starts to bulge, BOOM!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v384/lucyald/door.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v384/lucyald/ceiling.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v384/lucyald/bath.jpg
Next few months: drip recommences, damp patches discovered &c.
29 August 2005: Insurance company finally get around to start work on the fixing, remove bathroom leaving toilet pan that needs to be flushed with a bucket of water and nothing else.
29 November 2005: Bathroom still bare with exception of aforementioned pan. Surveyor coming for the *third* time on Thursday, after which work can commence, I am told. Still hoping for new bathroom by Christmas.

Mädchen (Madchen), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 15:28 (fourteen years ago) link

Obviously, not everyone has it as bad as me :)

Mädchen (Madchen), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 15:29 (fourteen years ago) link

xpost No, we have to hold really. Unless we relocate to somewhere cheaper. We couldn't afford the house we have now, if we were buying it now.

mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 15:31 (fourteen years ago) link

also, who here is a landlord? if I can get a basement tenant to pay a chunk of my mortgage every month, why not? or is it too much work?

I think it's a pain in the ass. I rent out a house I bought last year as a fixer-upper, to people I'm friends with, and it's a pain just making arrangements to do any little amount of work that needs to be done without intruding. So, put that into your basement .. someone always being around would suck, and if you need to pull out the tennant's bed to make sure water isn't leaking from a pipe, you can't just walk in and do it. Seems like too much work to me, but other people may be willing to put up with it for the extra money.

D.I.Y. U.N.K.L.E. (dave225.3), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 15:45 (fourteen years ago) link

Argh, Madchen - maybe I should get that damp fixed before I move in. :-/

Please Snap StressTwig (kate), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 15:47 (fourteen years ago) link

Mädchen, that's horrible! A colleague had a similar problem. :-(

Nathalie (stevie nixed), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 16:00 (fourteen years ago) link

we just moved in a month ago, if we had cut it any closer to my due date I think it would have been a bad idea. We closed on the house in late september and took a month to have some stuff done to it, but it was all cosmetic--the house was in great shape and we just figured that it would be easier to paint/refinish floors before we moved in. I think even if you buy a house in good shape, there's still going to be plenty of things that you want to do with it, so budget time and money for that.

I've never been a landlord but dave's advice seems to make a lot of sense. What area of the country are you in? are real estate prices outrageous there?

teeny (teeny), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 16:12 (fourteen years ago) link

oh and don't forget that your wife won't be able to lift anything, pay for movers or start sucking up to your friends now.

teeny (teeny), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 16:19 (fourteen years ago) link

Oh, that's rotten, Madchen.

We're still waiting to exchange too. Time is running out - once mortgage offer expires in four weeks it's all over as we can't get an extension (Pam will no longer be a full-time employee on additional maternity leave, she'll be unemployed).

This has been going on for five months. I've completely lost any enthusiasm I had for the move because every time I glance at the property section of the local freesheet or open an estate agent email, I see something better which needs less work. Each time we've decided we've had enough (early August when the estate agent couldn't find us a buyer; early October when the delays up the chain seemed neverending), we've been encouraged to stick with it by some new piece of progress. This time we're only half-heartedly looking elsewhere because it's not very likely we'll find a chain-free place that we love and that we can complete on in four weeks.

Meanwhile, we eat off the two or three plates that haven't been bubble-wrapped and listen to the handful of CDs that evaded the pack, surrounded by 90-odd boxes.

So, "D" then.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 16:20 (fourteen years ago) link

The house buying process that is, not the actual house itself.

the actual house collapsing sounds like it would be far worse.

We've been looking for the past few months but the market here is quickly spiraling out of our range. stupid yuppies.

Miss Misery xox (MissMiseryTX), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 16:22 (fourteen years ago) link

I'm on my fourth house now, and I've nearly always had lodgers for a while to help pay the rent. I find it great, partly because I don't advertise or anything, I only take in people I already know I will get along with, and I don't mind a bit of extra housework in exchange for extra cash and/or dogminding. Right now my cousin and her husband are living with us and they're spot on, ideal lodgers.

See, lodgers are different from tenants - or they should be, anyway - because they don't get an equal share, so you don't have to give them an equal amount. They are renting a room in your house, not renting half the house. That's how it works for me anyway.

accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 16:24 (fourteen years ago) link

I'd like to buy but even though I'm infected with icky GIRL GERMS we still can't afford to buy anything in stupid London. We're planning to start a savings account for a deposit though so maybe in a few years things will be different.

Colonel Poo (Colonel Poo), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 16:25 (fourteen years ago) link

See, part of the reason that I'm buying MINE OWN house is because I started out being a tenant (or so I thought) and then got switched to being a lodger without anyone telling me. Grrrr.

::thinks about beautiful flat of mine own::

::calms down::

Please Snap StressTwig (kate), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 16:28 (fourteen years ago) link

The thing that really made me want to buy my own house was moving hurriedly out of a flat that was being let by a MAD WOMAN into a house that didn't appear to have any hot water. I went from screaming at the landlady's agent to not touch me and to never look at me again, straight over to the new rented house. When I decided to have a nice hot shower, I got into the shower and the water was cold. I cried and cried and vowed that I would never live in rented accommodation again.
Okay, it's not Gone With the Wind, but it's my story.

accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 16:32 (fourteen years ago) link

I've had lodgers too, for a couple months at a time. It wasn't all bad, but then they left a washcloth in the laundry basin and it clogged the drain an overflowed and water got all over.. And even though it was an honest mistake, it's not one I would have made, so it bugged me. And also they always felt the need to talk when I came home from work. Maybe I just can't stand people.

D.I.Y. U.N.K.L.E. (dave225.3), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 16:54 (fourteen years ago) link

The concept of "lodgers" is less common here, but we have talked about taking in a Japanese student, maybe as part of an organized "Homestay" program where you're expected to feed them and be vaguely helpful. Maybe just by putting up some signs at one of the Japanese groceries. But will a lodger be able to handle living under the same roof as a screaming infant in 9 mos time? And will we really want a stranger around as we lose our minds? I'm thinking not so much.

Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 17:07 (fourteen years ago) link

Maybe I should abscond with my deposit and buy a horse instead.

Control your ponies, children! (kate), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 17:14 (fourteen years ago) link

If the homestay programs where I work are anything to go by, you don't know who/what you're going to get, people turn up with all kinds of weird foibles - and if you're cooking for them that's food issues to deal with too. You don't always get to meet them before agreeing to host them - if it's an organised program and they are coming over from Japan - to see if you get on, unlike with traditional tenants or lodgers. Having TWO unpredictable new arrivals at once (baby and student) seems kind of daunting?

Archel (Archel), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 17:16 (fourteen years ago) link

I miss just being able to call a super to fix shit, but I do like the whole ownership and "this is my wall that I can put holes into" feeling. My house's value has increased $10K in the last five years, and I haven't done shit to it.

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 18:59 (fourteen years ago) link

We have had some work done, but even barring that, due to the low purchase cost when we bought in late 2001, we've made about a 50% 'profit'. SF real estate is insane.

M. White (Miguelito), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 19:03 (fourteen years ago) link

Oh my god, I'm so grown up. I just got a quote for building and contents insurance! Eep!

Control your ponies, children! (kate), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 19:17 (fourteen years ago) link

Oh, classic, possibly because we didn't have to do much (just cosmetic stuff to hide the horrible old-woman-ness of the original decor) and ours has almost doubled in value over the last four years. I realise we are very lucky in this respect (having seen Madchen's bathroom firsthand).

Also classic because our outgoings are less than they would be if we were renting, and we get to live on our own and do what we want and IT'S OURS! As Pleasant Plains said, it's the I do like the whole ownership and "this is my wall that I can put holes into" feeling feeling that makes it worthwhile.

ailsa (ailsa), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 20:02 (fourteen years ago) link

I want one, all to myself. A garage where I can put all the nailguns and tools I've inherited and my grandmother's old ceramics kiln, a bathroom I could convert into a real darkroom and a decent kitchen. I could almost afford to rent a small house by myself now, but that just gives me space without the ability to make changes.

Buying new appliances for a house seems like the most fun part of the process. Ooooh stainless steel cooktop. Ooooooh subzero wine fridge.

Erick Dampier is better than Shaq (miloaukerman), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 20:10 (fourteen years ago) link

Yeah sure, if you have a nice fat budget. But I remember it as being one of the hassliest bits of buying the house. We had hardly any money left over after buying our first house and it was really tiny so we didn't even bother buying a washing machine and just went to the laundry once a week.
Which actually turned out to be a great idea, because it meant we never had washing hanging around the place.

accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 20:53 (fourteen years ago) link

Haha, yeah that goes without saying. I've gone on too many trips with people we're building houses for while they pick out all their fancy new stainless appliances. It's fun by proxy.

Erick Dampier is better than Shaq (miloaukerman), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 21:04 (fourteen years ago) link

these are a couple of before and after pics of my house i bought in brooklyn a year ago. we have a tenant. we found him on craigslist and totally lucked out. whenever i go out of town i tell him to hang out in the main house and try on all my clothes. there is still a lot of work to do on the house but i figure that will be ongoing. i think that the value has gone up a lot already without us even doing work.

living room/dining room before
http://www.astro.columbia.edu/~feb/pics/livingrm2.jpg
after
http://www.astro.columbia.edu/~feb/newpics/house_livroom2.JPG
http://www.astro.columbia.edu/~feb/newpics/house_livroom3.JPG

kitchen before
http://www.astro.columbia.edu/~feb/pics/kitch2.jpg

after
http://www.astro.columbia.edu/~feb/newpics/house_kitchen.JPG


master bedroom before
http://www.astro.columbia.edu/~feb/pics/master2.jpg

after (with my old roommate using the computer)
http://www.astro.columbia.edu/~feb/newpics/house_bedroom1.JPG

Mendoza Lineman (Carey), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 01:39 (fourteen years ago) link

oh that linked pic should be of the living room looking the other way
http://www.astro.columbia.edu/~feb/newpics/house_livroom3.JPG

and here is the bathroom, the before pic is too big but it used to be all pink and black.

http://www.astro.columbia.edu/~feb/newpics/house_bathroom1.JPG

Mendoza Lineman (Carey), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 01:43 (fourteen years ago) link

Good job of brightening up the place. It looks great.

My wife and I have owned our house since early 87. We love the place. Single family, 90 plus yrs old, awesome mountain views and we'll be here a while yet. Of course there's always something in need of work, but you gotta live somewhere.

jim wentworth (wench), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 02:14 (fourteen years ago) link

Your house looks great, C!

Mary (Mary), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 05:49 (fourteen years ago) link

Someone I vaguely know in Virginia bought a Sears kit house from a hundred years ago. It still has the instructions in it. I think that's the coolest thing.

accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 07:29 (fourteen years ago) link

this makes me want my own house so badly... but alas, i have a lot of growing up to do first.

tres letraj (tehresa), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 07:57 (fourteen years ago) link

growingsaving

jim p. irrelevant (electricsound), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 08:01 (fourteen years ago) link

yes, among other things.

tres letraj (tehresa), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 08:10 (fourteen years ago) link

just closed on my house on halloween. we are only the second owners and it was built in 1941. just minor cosmetics needed to be done, i will post pictures of before and after.

this is the second house we've owned, we sold our condo and made $75000.

bingo (Chris V), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 11:17 (fourteen years ago) link

ILX: the place to find spouses, houses

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Friday, 11 September 2020 11:57 (two weeks ago) link

I fixed the dryer!

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Sunday, 13 September 2020 04:03 (two weeks ago) link

It was way harder than I thought but I did it. The main thing was that the bolt that held the roller axle in place was rusted on. Took me a long time to figure out a way to get enough force to break it while also gripping the bolt at an awkward angle with not much room.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Sunday, 13 September 2020 04:05 (two weeks ago) link

anybody test black mastic for asbestos? we've a real money pit on our hands.

bogo jumbo boba (Sufjan Grafton), Sunday, 13 September 2020 05:52 (two weeks ago) link

> I fixed the dryer!

repairing things

koogs, Sunday, 13 September 2020 10:47 (two weeks ago) link

Sign went up yesterday and now random people are stopping by to take pictures of the house.

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Sunday, 13 September 2020 13:11 (two weeks ago) link

xp Sufjan -- isn't the process to take a sample and send it to a testing lab? The org I work for recently did this on a building we are working on -- it cost us $35.

sarahell, Sunday, 13 September 2020 18:06 (two weeks ago) link

thanks, sarahell. Been reading more about it and I believe you are correct. You can't tell from black adhesive color alone. Good news is it's also reasonably safe after you cover it up with a new floor. $35 not too bad! Would make things more danherous and expensive if we wanted to route any gas lines on the slab away from an exterior wall

bogo jumbo boba (Sufjan Grafton), Sunday, 13 September 2020 18:23 (two weeks ago) link

iirc mastic is one of the safer asbestos containing materials bc of its inherent encapsulting properties

micah, Sunday, 13 September 2020 22:58 (two weeks ago) link

Yes, I agree. Mostly worried about the kids walking on it a bunch, which might free some fibers. Also, if we needed to channel the slab for a gas line to cross a doorway to an interior wall. We are leaning toward keeping the water and oven stuff by their already existing hookups to avoid headache. Everybody wants to sell you on an open design with a funtional kitchen island

bogo jumbo boba (Sufjan Grafton), Sunday, 13 September 2020 23:34 (two weeks ago) link

I don't want to fuck around and end up the subject of mockery on the kitchen island thread.

bogo jumbo boba (Sufjan Grafton), Sunday, 13 September 2020 23:36 (two weeks ago) link

worst part about this process is i can't sleep. I jokingly complain about our cat, who is an anxious runt leaving a ridiculous number of litterbox deposits. But i'm learning i too am ananxious runt.

bogo jumbo boba (Sufjan Grafton), Sunday, 13 September 2020 23:39 (two weeks ago) link

wait but im not shitting a lot. or especially in a litterbox. i just can't sleep.

bogo jumbo boba (Sufjan Grafton), Sunday, 13 September 2020 23:40 (two weeks ago) link

Bathroom leak ;_; ;_; ;_;

Turns out the bathroom reno was shitty and there's no waterproofing under the shower tile and the second showerhead (handheld) has been causing a leak for a long time. The owner didn't fix it, he just redid the sheetrock to hide it. May wind up having to retile the shower which means might as well just redo the bathroom about 5 years sooner than i was hoping to (didn't like it but thought we could live with it).

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Monday, 14 September 2020 17:29 (two weeks ago) link

Boo!

sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Monday, 14 September 2020 17:36 (two weeks ago) link

I hate bathrooms

bogo jumbo boba (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 14 September 2020 17:47 (two weeks ago) link

we should all bathe in lakes or streams

bogo jumbo boba (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 14 September 2020 17:47 (two weeks ago) link

even the humble toilet seems to fail in the most obvious but still annoying ways

bogo jumbo boba (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 14 September 2020 17:49 (two weeks ago) link

we should all bathe in lakes or streams

For three years, the nascent Talking Heads lived in a loft with no bath or shower; they would just go over to friends' houses and, after a decent social interval, just ask "hey, do you mind if I take a shower?"

velcro-magnon (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 14 September 2020 17:51 (two weeks ago) link

Neddy Merrill of showers

bogo jumbo boba (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 14 September 2020 18:28 (two weeks ago) link

For three years, the nascent Talking Heads lived in a loft with no bath or shower; they would just go over to friends' houses and, after a decent social interval, just ask "hey, do you mind if I take a shower?"

I feel like at some point it would be the friend asking "hey, do you mind taking a shower?"

Guayaquil (eephus!), Monday, 14 September 2020 20:35 (two weeks ago) link

Or "thanks for stopping by so i can complain about my problems. first, and this one is the least of it, but my shower broke. Have a seat. Shall i open a bottle of pepsi?" Etc.

bogo jumbo boba (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 14 September 2020 20:41 (two weeks ago) link

I spent a good six months of my life bathing only in the river near our place, back when we lived off-grid.

Similar thing with our bathroom, man alive— whoever had done the reno before hadn't connected the shower properly to the main, so whenever we took showers for the first few weeks, water was spraying into the walls and ceiling. A real treat.

healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Monday, 14 September 2020 23:11 (two weeks ago) link

Movers are coming next week, after which we will be living with a bunch of staging shit. Gonna feel weird.

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Wednesday, 16 September 2020 16:57 (one week ago) link

where are you moving to again?

sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Wednesday, 16 September 2020 16:59 (one week ago) link

Santa Barbara

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Wednesday, 16 September 2020 17:01 (one week ago) link

!

Everybody surfs for a living there, right?

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 16 September 2020 21:14 (one week ago) link

one of my bffs just move down there -- she works for a winery, no surfing

sarahell, Wednesday, 16 September 2020 21:18 (one week ago) link

hahah every time I see A Martinez in a tv show, I think of Santa Barbara

sarahell, Thursday, 17 September 2020 01:34 (one week ago) link

When I was a little kid, I thought Santa Barbara (the show) was somehow linked to Hanna Barbara, so I would watch the first several minutes of it hoping to see cartoons.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 17 September 2020 18:58 (one week ago) link

it was on at 2pm (iirc) right before the cartoons and children's shows so ... it makes sense to me

sarahell, Thursday, 17 September 2020 21:40 (one week ago) link

got a quote of $160k for replacing a leaning retaining wall. this house likely not happening.

bogo jumbo boba (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 25 September 2020 15:44 (three days ago) link

selling agent also gave us a survey, claiming it showed the wall on neighbor's property. It clearly has the wall outside of the neighbor's parcel line. So I think dude is just trying to scam us.

bogo jumbo boba (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 25 September 2020 15:47 (three days ago) link

So dud, i guess

bogo jumbo boba (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 25 September 2020 15:48 (three days ago) link

When I was a little kid, I thought Santa Barbara (the show) was somehow linked to Hanna Barbara, so I would watch the first several minutes of it hoping to see cartoons.

― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, September 17, 2020 2:58 PM (one week ago) bookmarkflaglink

Me too! I mean, I learned after the first time though.

📺👁️ (peace, man), Friday, 25 September 2020 15:54 (three days ago) link

Damn there goes my plan of renting and/or buying Surfjan’s condo

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Friday, 25 September 2020 19:43 (three days ago) link

well we are just asking the seller to pay for it. they likely won't want to. so a bunch of inspectors/engineers made money off us. and we will remain houseless.

bogo jumbo boba (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 25 September 2020 22:55 (three days ago) link

My retaining walls are making me not want to own property. I have three of them, two where I'm the upside neighbor and one the downside. They are all slowly failing. One is serious. After being replaced once 10 years ago, my 80-foot redwood tree which is beloved by the residents of the entire block continues to push out my wall into the neighbor's deck. I know I'm going to have to take it down, but it's huge and is hanging right over their house, and it is in the middle of the block with no street access whatsoever, so the idea of trying to remove it gives me nightmares. And thinking about dealing with the 12 or so other owners on neighboring properties who will inevitably be angry about it also really stresses me out

Dan S, Friday, 25 September 2020 23:20 (three days ago) link

yeah, I am permanently off retaining walls after this.

bogo jumbo boba (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 25 September 2020 23:30 (three days ago) link

Retaining walls are pretty much a given in a lot of parts of my town because it’s so hilly. The upside of that is that there are a handful of excellent local stonemasons who really know how to deal with them. We have a couple of old stacked stone walls and a stone and mortar wall and all are holding up well according to the people we had look at them.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Saturday, 26 September 2020 01:46 (two days ago) link

All mention of this gives me shivers. I am wondering what am I going to do. How liable will I be for damage to my neighbor's property? Can they really take a four-foot diameter tree in sections out through my house to the street? Because there is no other way

Dan S, Saturday, 26 September 2020 02:01 (two days ago) link

probs with a crane

micah, Saturday, 26 September 2020 02:43 (two days ago) link

depends on where you live? ... stonemasons are great in theory, but if you live somewhere earthquake prone? Not the best idea, I think the general material used is concrete in that case? ...Also, depending on where you live, the tree issue could be fraught, like ridiculously fraught.

sarahell, Saturday, 26 September 2020 18:43 (two days ago) link

on the plus side: if you have a whole bunch of fraught trees, you can grow apples

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Saturday, 26 September 2020 20:01 (two days ago) link

the velvetundergrowth of retaining walls

sarahell, Saturday, 26 September 2020 20:07 (two days ago) link

i'd get that checked if that's a problem for you, likely mold

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Saturday, 26 September 2020 20:17 (two days ago) link

the velvetundergrowth of retaining walls

Not many people have built a retaining wall, but every one of them started a band

velcro-magnon (Ye Mad Puffin), Saturday, 26 September 2020 21:50 (two days ago) link

hahahahah thank you!

sarahell, Sunday, 27 September 2020 15:31 (yesterday) link

every one of them started a lawsuit

Guayaquil (eephus!), Sunday, 27 September 2020 16:03 (yesterday) link


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