Buying A House: C or D?

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Who here owns their own home? Did you buy something that was already in good shape, or did you fix it up? Do you have tenants? Etc.

Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 14:46 (fifteen years ago) link

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!

I'll let you know in a few weeks when we've finally exchanged.

Please Snap StressTwig (kate), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 14:47 (fifteen years ago) link

Scary as hell, isn't it?
And I'm just going to open houses at this point.

Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 14:47 (fifteen years ago) link

In short:
Yup: 8 yrs ago: 250%

mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 14:48 (fifteen years ago) link

I managed to buy my own house last year. It's only 25 years old, but it needed more doing to it than we thought.

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 14:48 (fifteen years ago) link

I'm really luck I've got work for a really good IFA so it's been far less stressful than it would have been otherwise.

Please Snap StressTwig (kate), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 14:49 (fifteen years ago) link

Being able to afford one on your own, classic.
Having to be a couple to afford one, ooooh, it’ll get messy!

not-goodwin (not-goodwin), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 14:49 (fifteen years ago) link

The true stress of buying a house is having it all fall through. The house buying process that is, not the actual house itself.

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 14:52 (fifteen years ago) link

On one hand, I kind of wish that I was buying one as half a couple - could afford more, could have someone else running around chasing after estate agents and the like.

But on the other hand, I'd have to let an icky BOY live in my house then.

Please Snap StressTwig (kate), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 14:52 (fifteen years ago) link

The most fun was being scheduled to go the title office on 9/11... when for some odd reason they weren't open.

M. White (Miguelito), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 14:54 (fifteen years ago) link

I can't imagine buying a home on my own. You're brave.
In short:
Yup: 8 yrs ago: 250%

does this mean your home has increased in value by 250% in 8 yrs?

Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 14:56 (fifteen years ago) link

also, who here is a landlord? if I can get a basement tenant to pay a chunk of my mortgage every month, why not? or is it too much work?

Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 14:58 (fifteen years ago) link

note: i hate hard work.

Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 15:00 (fifteen years ago) link

http://www.futurelicensing.com/images/tick.gif

xpost.

mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 15:00 (fifteen years ago) link

wow, congrats! that's encouraging. are you going to cash in now or hold onto it?

Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 15:02 (fifteen years ago) link

(and risk "losing" your "profits")

Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 15:19 (fifteen years ago) link

May 2003: bought house
August 2004: drip through bathroom ceiling begins, complain to upstairs neighbours
September 2004: drip continues, as do complaints
October 2004: drip gets worse, ceiling starts to bulge, BOOM!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v384/lucyald/door.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v384/lucyald/ceiling.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v384/lucyald/bath.jpg
Next few months: drip recommences, damp patches discovered &c.
29 August 2005: Insurance company finally get around to start work on the fixing, remove bathroom leaving toilet pan that needs to be flushed with a bucket of water and nothing else.
29 November 2005: Bathroom still bare with exception of aforementioned pan. Surveyor coming for the *third* time on Thursday, after which work can commence, I am told. Still hoping for new bathroom by Christmas.

Mädchen (Madchen), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 15:28 (fifteen years ago) link

Obviously, not everyone has it as bad as me :)

Mädchen (Madchen), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 15:29 (fifteen years ago) link

xpost No, we have to hold really. Unless we relocate to somewhere cheaper. We couldn't afford the house we have now, if we were buying it now.

mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 15:31 (fifteen years ago) link

also, who here is a landlord? if I can get a basement tenant to pay a chunk of my mortgage every month, why not? or is it too much work?

I think it's a pain in the ass. I rent out a house I bought last year as a fixer-upper, to people I'm friends with, and it's a pain just making arrangements to do any little amount of work that needs to be done without intruding. So, put that into your basement .. someone always being around would suck, and if you need to pull out the tennant's bed to make sure water isn't leaking from a pipe, you can't just walk in and do it. Seems like too much work to me, but other people may be willing to put up with it for the extra money.

D.I.Y. U.N.K.L.E. (dave225.3), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 15:45 (fifteen years ago) link

Argh, Madchen - maybe I should get that damp fixed before I move in. :-/

Please Snap StressTwig (kate), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 15:47 (fifteen years ago) link

Mädchen, that's horrible! A colleague had a similar problem. :-(

Nathalie (stevie nixed), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 16:00 (fifteen years ago) link

we just moved in a month ago, if we had cut it any closer to my due date I think it would have been a bad idea. We closed on the house in late september and took a month to have some stuff done to it, but it was all cosmetic--the house was in great shape and we just figured that it would be easier to paint/refinish floors before we moved in. I think even if you buy a house in good shape, there's still going to be plenty of things that you want to do with it, so budget time and money for that.

I've never been a landlord but dave's advice seems to make a lot of sense. What area of the country are you in? are real estate prices outrageous there?

teeny (teeny), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 16:12 (fifteen years ago) link

oh and don't forget that your wife won't be able to lift anything, pay for movers or start sucking up to your friends now.

teeny (teeny), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 16:19 (fifteen years ago) link

Oh, that's rotten, Madchen.

We're still waiting to exchange too. Time is running out - once mortgage offer expires in four weeks it's all over as we can't get an extension (Pam will no longer be a full-time employee on additional maternity leave, she'll be unemployed).

This has been going on for five months. I've completely lost any enthusiasm I had for the move because every time I glance at the property section of the local freesheet or open an estate agent email, I see something better which needs less work. Each time we've decided we've had enough (early August when the estate agent couldn't find us a buyer; early October when the delays up the chain seemed neverending), we've been encouraged to stick with it by some new piece of progress. This time we're only half-heartedly looking elsewhere because it's not very likely we'll find a chain-free place that we love and that we can complete on in four weeks.

Meanwhile, we eat off the two or three plates that haven't been bubble-wrapped and listen to the handful of CDs that evaded the pack, surrounded by 90-odd boxes.

So, "D" then.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 16:20 (fifteen years ago) link

The house buying process that is, not the actual house itself.

the actual house collapsing sounds like it would be far worse.

We've been looking for the past few months but the market here is quickly spiraling out of our range. stupid yuppies.

Miss Misery xox (MissMiseryTX), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 16:22 (fifteen years ago) link

I'm on my fourth house now, and I've nearly always had lodgers for a while to help pay the rent. I find it great, partly because I don't advertise or anything, I only take in people I already know I will get along with, and I don't mind a bit of extra housework in exchange for extra cash and/or dogminding. Right now my cousin and her husband are living with us and they're spot on, ideal lodgers.

See, lodgers are different from tenants - or they should be, anyway - because they don't get an equal share, so you don't have to give them an equal amount. They are renting a room in your house, not renting half the house. That's how it works for me anyway.

accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 16:24 (fifteen years ago) link

I'd like to buy but even though I'm infected with icky GIRL GERMS we still can't afford to buy anything in stupid London. We're planning to start a savings account for a deposit though so maybe in a few years things will be different.

Colonel Poo (Colonel Poo), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 16:25 (fifteen years ago) link

See, part of the reason that I'm buying MINE OWN house is because I started out being a tenant (or so I thought) and then got switched to being a lodger without anyone telling me. Grrrr.

::thinks about beautiful flat of mine own::

::calms down::

Please Snap StressTwig (kate), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 16:28 (fifteen years ago) link

The thing that really made me want to buy my own house was moving hurriedly out of a flat that was being let by a MAD WOMAN into a house that didn't appear to have any hot water. I went from screaming at the landlady's agent to not touch me and to never look at me again, straight over to the new rented house. When I decided to have a nice hot shower, I got into the shower and the water was cold. I cried and cried and vowed that I would never live in rented accommodation again.
Okay, it's not Gone With the Wind, but it's my story.

accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 16:32 (fifteen years ago) link

I've had lodgers too, for a couple months at a time. It wasn't all bad, but then they left a washcloth in the laundry basin and it clogged the drain an overflowed and water got all over.. And even though it was an honest mistake, it's not one I would have made, so it bugged me. And also they always felt the need to talk when I came home from work. Maybe I just can't stand people.

D.I.Y. U.N.K.L.E. (dave225.3), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 16:54 (fifteen years ago) link

The concept of "lodgers" is less common here, but we have talked about taking in a Japanese student, maybe as part of an organized "Homestay" program where you're expected to feed them and be vaguely helpful. Maybe just by putting up some signs at one of the Japanese groceries. But will a lodger be able to handle living under the same roof as a screaming infant in 9 mos time? And will we really want a stranger around as we lose our minds? I'm thinking not so much.

Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 17:07 (fifteen years ago) link

Maybe I should abscond with my deposit and buy a horse instead.

Control your ponies, children! (kate), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 17:14 (fifteen years ago) link

If the homestay programs where I work are anything to go by, you don't know who/what you're going to get, people turn up with all kinds of weird foibles - and if you're cooking for them that's food issues to deal with too. You don't always get to meet them before agreeing to host them - if it's an organised program and they are coming over from Japan - to see if you get on, unlike with traditional tenants or lodgers. Having TWO unpredictable new arrivals at once (baby and student) seems kind of daunting?

Archel (Archel), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 17:16 (fifteen years ago) link

I miss just being able to call a super to fix shit, but I do like the whole ownership and "this is my wall that I can put holes into" feeling. My house's value has increased $10K in the last five years, and I haven't done shit to it.

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 18:59 (fifteen years ago) link

We have had some work done, but even barring that, due to the low purchase cost when we bought in late 2001, we've made about a 50% 'profit'. SF real estate is insane.

M. White (Miguelito), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 19:03 (fifteen years ago) link

Oh my god, I'm so grown up. I just got a quote for building and contents insurance! Eep!

Control your ponies, children! (kate), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 19:17 (fifteen years ago) link

Oh, classic, possibly because we didn't have to do much (just cosmetic stuff to hide the horrible old-woman-ness of the original decor) and ours has almost doubled in value over the last four years. I realise we are very lucky in this respect (having seen Madchen's bathroom firsthand).

Also classic because our outgoings are less than they would be if we were renting, and we get to live on our own and do what we want and IT'S OURS! As Pleasant Plains said, it's the I do like the whole ownership and "this is my wall that I can put holes into" feeling feeling that makes it worthwhile.

ailsa (ailsa), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 20:02 (fifteen years ago) link

I want one, all to myself. A garage where I can put all the nailguns and tools I've inherited and my grandmother's old ceramics kiln, a bathroom I could convert into a real darkroom and a decent kitchen. I could almost afford to rent a small house by myself now, but that just gives me space without the ability to make changes.

Buying new appliances for a house seems like the most fun part of the process. Ooooh stainless steel cooktop. Ooooooh subzero wine fridge.

Erick Dampier is better than Shaq (miloaukerman), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 20:10 (fifteen years ago) link

Yeah sure, if you have a nice fat budget. But I remember it as being one of the hassliest bits of buying the house. We had hardly any money left over after buying our first house and it was really tiny so we didn't even bother buying a washing machine and just went to the laundry once a week.
Which actually turned out to be a great idea, because it meant we never had washing hanging around the place.

accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 20:53 (fifteen years ago) link

Haha, yeah that goes without saying. I've gone on too many trips with people we're building houses for while they pick out all their fancy new stainless appliances. It's fun by proxy.

Erick Dampier is better than Shaq (miloaukerman), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 21:04 (fifteen years ago) link

these are a couple of before and after pics of my house i bought in brooklyn a year ago. we have a tenant. we found him on craigslist and totally lucked out. whenever i go out of town i tell him to hang out in the main house and try on all my clothes. there is still a lot of work to do on the house but i figure that will be ongoing. i think that the value has gone up a lot already without us even doing work.

living room/dining room before
http://www.astro.columbia.edu/~feb/pics/livingrm2.jpg
after
http://www.astro.columbia.edu/~feb/newpics/house_livroom2.JPG
http://www.astro.columbia.edu/~feb/newpics/house_livroom3.JPG

kitchen before
http://www.astro.columbia.edu/~feb/pics/kitch2.jpg

after
http://www.astro.columbia.edu/~feb/newpics/house_kitchen.JPG


master bedroom before
http://www.astro.columbia.edu/~feb/pics/master2.jpg

after (with my old roommate using the computer)
http://www.astro.columbia.edu/~feb/newpics/house_bedroom1.JPG

Mendoza Lineman (Carey), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 01:39 (fifteen years ago) link

oh that linked pic should be of the living room looking the other way
http://www.astro.columbia.edu/~feb/newpics/house_livroom3.JPG

and here is the bathroom, the before pic is too big but it used to be all pink and black.

http://www.astro.columbia.edu/~feb/newpics/house_bathroom1.JPG

Mendoza Lineman (Carey), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 01:43 (fifteen years ago) link

Good job of brightening up the place. It looks great.

My wife and I have owned our house since early 87. We love the place. Single family, 90 plus yrs old, awesome mountain views and we'll be here a while yet. Of course there's always something in need of work, but you gotta live somewhere.

jim wentworth (wench), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 02:14 (fifteen years ago) link

Your house looks great, C!

Mary (Mary), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 05:49 (fifteen years ago) link

Someone I vaguely know in Virginia bought a Sears kit house from a hundred years ago. It still has the instructions in it. I think that's the coolest thing.

accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 07:29 (fifteen years ago) link

this makes me want my own house so badly... but alas, i have a lot of growing up to do first.

tres letraj (tehresa), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 07:57 (fifteen years ago) link

growingsaving

jim p. irrelevant (electricsound), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 08:01 (fifteen years ago) link

yes, among other things.

tres letraj (tehresa), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 08:10 (fifteen years ago) link

just closed on my house on halloween. we are only the second owners and it was built in 1941. just minor cosmetics needed to be done, i will post pictures of before and after.

this is the second house we've owned, we sold our condo and made $75000.

bingo (Chris V), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 11:17 (fifteen years ago) link

We bought in summer 2019 at 3.625 and refinanced in December at 2.75. It reduces our monthly payment by 10% for the next 30 years and we cover the costs of refinancing in like 12 months. If you’re currently paying anything approaching 4% and you don’t have specific plans to move soon it’s probably still worth doing.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 6 March 2021 19:18 (one month ago) link

Our letter of offer is at 2.5% fixed for 5 years which hopefully they honour come drawdown

beware the ídes of mairt (darraghmac), Saturday, 6 March 2021 20:21 (one month ago) link

the first place i bought was 6%. that shit seems hilarious now.

Yerac, Saturday, 6 March 2021 20:21 (one month ago) link

My first (and current) house had a 12.25% mortgage, which is even more ridiculous, but it's the best leap I ever made. A better leap would have been selling and getting something nicer in 1993, when I considered it, but was too chicken to do.

nickn, Saturday, 6 March 2021 22:46 (one month ago) link

We looked into refinancing, and then we couldn't cover the costs of refinancing, so we just said fuck it. But rates were pretty low when we bought, too, and I don't really see us leaving this dump.

it's like edging for your mind (the table is the table), Thursday, 18 March 2021 21:55 (one month ago) link

have you considered letting a friend park their RV or truck in your yard and pay you like $100/month?

sarahell, Thursday, 18 March 2021 22:14 (one month ago) link

I have to say that seven months in, on one hand, I love home ownership, but on the other hand, I can't fathom why anyone would want to own more than one house.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 1 April 2021 19:46 (two weeks ago) link

I mean unless you have the kind of fuck you money that you can just pay a property manager to take care of literally everything.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 1 April 2021 19:47 (two weeks ago) link

A property manager takes what 10% of rent? Even with that expense it’s easy to set things up such that renting is extremely profitable because our housing markets are messed up. No fuck you money required, beyond the fuck you of being able to afford a second downpayment, especially if you bought the house in the past.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 1 April 2021 21:58 (two weeks ago) link

because if the second house is a rental, as caek implied, you could conceivably not have to work but instead live off your passive landlord income

sarahell, Friday, 2 April 2021 18:03 (two weeks ago) link

there are different arrangements re property management -- you could pay a company, which takes either a % of rent, or a flat fee, or, depending on the property, you could have a person who manages your property in exchange for free/discounted rent

sarahell, Friday, 2 April 2021 18:04 (two weeks ago) link

yeah either way a using property manager does not involve any more fuck you money than being a landlord in the first place.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 2 April 2021 18:11 (two weeks ago) link

I guess it depends how much capital you have in that second house and what rents are like in your area.

It looks like Zillow is estimating rent for houses in my area at about 22% over the monthly payment (mortgage, escrow, property tax). Which would give you a lot of leeway if you were renting an apartment or condo in an expensive area for a few thousand and had low maintenance overheard, but it’s just a few hundred bucks here.

mh, Monday, 5 April 2021 14:47 (one week ago) link

i want to be a renter again tbqh, but it's financial insanity if not to own if you have the option :(

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𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 5 April 2021 19:13 (one week ago) link

I think women who own homes are expected to have that competence be part of their identity now as well, I also experience a cold wave of dread when I think about my experiences with the people my contractor sent out to remodel my bathroom that I had to spend hours with one-on-one in my own house, and what that would have been like as a woman

mark e. smith-moon (f. hazel), Monday, 5 April 2021 19:20 (one week ago) link

I have definitely wondered before if there would be a viable way to offer people inexpensive property management-like services for their own homes. We got really lucky and found these awesome guys through friends who are like handyman++ and know tons about houses and construction, so they can pretty much always either do what we need cheap or advise us on it. Like an on-call service that could (1) send a handyman when you need it for simple stuff, (2) advise you on all home repair and renovation decisions and (3) help you find contractors for more serious stuff. I guess there could be some messed up incentives and you'd probably need some kind of way to avoid contractors being selected via kickbacks.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Monday, 5 April 2021 19:26 (one week ago) link

I'm the point person for my condo complex dealing with our property management company, and it's a constant issue... there's a powerful incentive for relationships to form between the property managers and service providers that aren't in the best interest of the homeowners. A lot of the investor owners have zero patience with that reality, instead choosing to blame me for being naive about something like how much it should cost to replace the roof on a 3-story building. As if I'm going to have any fucking idea about that! And most of the time they're bluffing and have no idea themselves either.

mark e. smith-moon (f. hazel), Monday, 5 April 2021 19:36 (one week ago) link

I have definitely wondered before if there would be a viable way to offer people inexpensive property management-like services for their own homes.

A home warranty company is sort of this, on the repair side. Definitely makes homeownership less D for me. I don't think they would go find me a contractor if I wanted to I dunno redo the kitchen or something.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Monday, 5 April 2021 19:54 (one week ago) link

Seems like word of mouth is the only way that can be done successfully.

nickn, Monday, 5 April 2021 21:39 (one week ago) link

I don't understand that tweet above, who is making a joke, or if there is a joke? Or is he making fun of M Yglesias like many people seem to do.

Yerac, Monday, 5 April 2021 22:40 (one week ago) link

there is not a joke. owning a house is a terrible job. yglesias is bad. both are true.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 5 April 2021 22:50 (one week ago) link

i don't feel any of the gendered pressure to enjoy the "male" aspects of it the zeitlin tweet refers to.

but i do hate every aspect of it.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 5 April 2021 22:51 (one week ago) link

he appears to think wiping his own ass is "doing the job of ass manager"

microsloth fig stimulator (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 5 April 2021 22:52 (one week ago) link

Idk I do as little as possible for myself that I can afford to pay for, why should I fix shit

Canon in Deez (silby), Monday, 5 April 2021 22:55 (one week ago) link

if you don't want to do it but want it done, hire somebody and pretend they're your "property manager". don't take mitch hedberg's words too seriously.

microsloth fig stimulator (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 5 April 2021 22:57 (one week ago) link

i'm sure he is talking about spackling the holes left by his framed reservoir dogs poster and not foundation repair anyway

microsloth fig stimulator (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 5 April 2021 22:58 (one week ago) link

I wouldn’t mind learning more home repair and maintenance if my primary job was like 20 hrs/wk. impossible to keep up with my current life. Any manly fantasy I had quickly got dispelled when I realized it’s not just a matter of knowing how to do stuff but having the time and attention to do it constantly.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Monday, 5 April 2021 23:10 (one week ago) link

I am feeling this. There's a lot of things that I know how to do and enjoy doing. I like painting, drywall, carpentry, gardening, yardwork - but can't set aside the time to do them well.

For me the major timesucks seem to be preparation and cleanup. And the major hassle is having normal life go on while the job is being done.

We've spent weeks that are completely janked up by having to live out of boxes and temporary arrangements while much of the house is undergoing repairs and remodeling.

The painting (or whatever) isn't all that hard, it's a week and a half of plaster dust everywhere and constant "where the fuck is the corkscrew" / "oh, it's in box 17 on the porch, the one labeled 'miscellaneous kitchen shiznit.'"

Condé Nasty (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 5 April 2021 23:19 (one week ago) link

...or wanting to paint just one thing or do just a bit of yardwork but needing a half-hour of getting ready and another half-hour to clean up and shower afterwards. If there weren't six mammals trying to live here, do work and school and relax, it would be way easier.

Condé Nasty (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 5 April 2021 23:23 (one week ago) link

Most regular home maintenance/small fixes/updates like painting/finding skilled tradesmen just fall into laundry, washing windows, mopping for me. It's the same.

Yerac, Monday, 5 April 2021 23:32 (one week ago) link

spoken like a true property manager

call all destroyer, Monday, 5 April 2021 23:52 (one week ago) link

i was born with a fistful of caulk.

Yerac, Monday, 5 April 2021 23:54 (one week ago) link

I tried to mount a knife magnet several months ago but found that I’d probably need a drill to actually do so and I still haven’t bought a drill, so the holes I augured with the drywall anchor and screwdriver are just sitting there

And we rent!

Canon in Deez (silby), Tuesday, 6 April 2021 00:07 (one week ago) link

I’d pay our landlord to come do it but covid

Canon in Deez (silby), Tuesday, 6 April 2021 00:08 (one week ago) link

Or if anyone has a drill and wants to lend it to me let me know when is a good time for me to come get it and what bus stop to use

Canon in Deez (silby), Tuesday, 6 April 2021 00:08 (one week ago) link

Lads stop harshing my buzzsaw

your own personal qanon (darraghmac), Tuesday, 6 April 2021 00:11 (one week ago) link

I am knowledgeable enough to be able to diagnose many problems, but lack the confidence to actually fix them, leading to frustration for paying someone else to do something I should be able to do myself.

guillotines aren't just for royalty anymore (PBKR), Tuesday, 6 April 2021 00:13 (one week ago) link

I just look up everything online and do it (if it's not likely to set the house on fire).

Yerac, Tuesday, 6 April 2021 00:18 (one week ago) link

Id be v concerned about hitting cables/pipes but after that sher fuckit have a crack

xp yes avoid that if at all possible ime

your own personal qanon (darraghmac), Tuesday, 6 April 2021 00:21 (one week ago) link

Bad knees also an impediment to many plumbing fixes.

guillotines aren't just for royalty anymore (PBKR), Tuesday, 6 April 2021 01:16 (one week ago) link

Homeowner things for me are a matrix of things I love/tolerate/despise, am great/decent/horrible at, and am confident/likely/not even close to doing well. All this is then factored against time and expense.

I got over a lot of my intense DIY pride/neurosis after a plumber pointed out how stubborn and masochistic it is to spend hours learning to half-assedly do something, with great potential for catastrophe, that I have no actual desire to do and would only do once or twice in my life vs. hiring someone who’s done the thing successfully hundreds of times.

joygoat, Tuesday, 6 April 2021 02:54 (one week ago) link

otm

microsloth fig stimulator (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 6 April 2021 03:00 (one week ago) link

yup

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 6 April 2021 03:00 (one week ago) link

Yeah, that's exactly the realization I came to when I managed to fix our old dryer. I was fairly proud of what I had done, but (1) it took me several hours and multiple trips to Home Depot, and I almost cried when I thought I wasn't going to be able to get an old rusted bolt off that was in an awkward place where I couldn't get any torque, (2) I spent 30 minutes anxiously watching it run afterwards, terrified that I had done something that would set the house on fire, (3) I was never 100% sure I correctly put the belt back on and (4) it died a month later anyway, necessitating a new dryer.

I do find it interesting to take things apart, see how they work, etc., but not enough to expend the time and/or risk fucking things up.

Lawyers know it's a bad idea to be your own lawyer, so hardly seems like a better idea to be your own plumber.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Tuesday, 6 April 2021 03:06 (one week ago) link

sounds like you learned something about yourself

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 6 April 2021 03:26 (one week ago) link

Like an on-call service that could (1) send a handyman when you need it for simple stuff, (2) advise you on all home repair and renovation decisions and (3) help you find contractors for more serious stuff.

lol this is like the org i work for but it's for non-traditional housing/spaces -- we also do financial consulting re loans and stuff

sarahell, Tuesday, 6 April 2021 08:07 (one week ago) link

i hear this song when i was like eight and the wisdom it contains occurs to me at least once a month.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40CV0ZuEweM

G.A.G.S. (Gophers Against Getting Stuffed) (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 6 April 2021 15:59 (one week ago) link

I am lucky/unlucky enough to have a partner who spent a great portion of his life as a property manager and contractor. We laid a new kitchen floor a few weeks ago, it took all day but looks excellent.

The unfortunate aspect is that there are many, many projects where he refuses to hire someone when we could save a lot of time and energy by doing so.

it's like edging for your mind (the table is the table), Tuesday, 13 April 2021 19:13 (five days ago) link

I am feeling some tension now between DIY vs. hiring someone, not because I'm territorial about it (or, frankly, good at it). Rather, because I had a budget in mind for painting / fixing / decorating / landscaping and we've completely blown past it, with loads of things still to do.

In the meantime we're underwhelmed by the choices in our price range - if a house in my area is affordable it's generally because there's something wrong with it. A little bit outdated, weird, small, shabby... kinda like my house. Not sure we want this much upheaval for a marginal improvement or no improvement in our lives.

Jurassic parkour (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 13 April 2021 19:42 (five days ago) link

xp - this reminds me of the week where we did dishes in the bathroom because my partner was insistent on improving his plumbing skills by repairing/replacing the pipes below the kitchen sink.

sarahell, Friday, 16 April 2021 01:56 (two days ago) link


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