Buying A House: C or D?

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Who here owns their own home? Did you buy something that was already in good shape, or did you fix it up? Do you have tenants? Etc.

Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 14:46 (thirteen years ago) link

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!

I'll let you know in a few weeks when we've finally exchanged.

Please Snap StressTwig (kate), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 14:47 (thirteen years ago) link

Scary as hell, isn't it?
And I'm just going to open houses at this point.

Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 14:47 (thirteen years ago) link

In short:
Yup: 8 yrs ago: 250%

mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 14:48 (thirteen years ago) link

I managed to buy my own house last year. It's only 25 years old, but it needed more doing to it than we thought.

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 14:48 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm really luck I've got work for a really good IFA so it's been far less stressful than it would have been otherwise.

Please Snap StressTwig (kate), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 14:49 (thirteen years ago) link

Being able to afford one on your own, classic.
Having to be a couple to afford one, ooooh, it’ll get messy!

not-goodwin (not-goodwin), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 14:49 (thirteen years ago) link

The true stress of buying a house is having it all fall through. The house buying process that is, not the actual house itself.

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 14:52 (thirteen years ago) link

On one hand, I kind of wish that I was buying one as half a couple - could afford more, could have someone else running around chasing after estate agents and the like.

But on the other hand, I'd have to let an icky BOY live in my house then.

Please Snap StressTwig (kate), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 14:52 (thirteen years ago) link

The most fun was being scheduled to go the title office on 9/11... when for some odd reason they weren't open.

M. White (Miguelito), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 14:54 (thirteen years ago) link

I can't imagine buying a home on my own. You're brave.
In short:
Yup: 8 yrs ago: 250%

does this mean your home has increased in value by 250% in 8 yrs?

Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 14:56 (thirteen years ago) link

also, who here is a landlord? if I can get a basement tenant to pay a chunk of my mortgage every month, why not? or is it too much work?

Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 14:58 (thirteen years ago) link

note: i hate hard work.

Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 15:00 (thirteen years ago) link

http://www.futurelicensing.com/images/tick.gif

xpost.

mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 15:00 (thirteen years ago) link

wow, congrats! that's encouraging. are you going to cash in now or hold onto it?

Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 15:02 (thirteen years ago) link

(and risk "losing" your "profits")

Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 15:19 (thirteen years ago) link

May 2003: bought house
August 2004: drip through bathroom ceiling begins, complain to upstairs neighbours
September 2004: drip continues, as do complaints
October 2004: drip gets worse, ceiling starts to bulge, BOOM!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v384/lucyald/door.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v384/lucyald/ceiling.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v384/lucyald/bath.jpg
Next few months: drip recommences, damp patches discovered &c.
29 August 2005: Insurance company finally get around to start work on the fixing, remove bathroom leaving toilet pan that needs to be flushed with a bucket of water and nothing else.
29 November 2005: Bathroom still bare with exception of aforementioned pan. Surveyor coming for the *third* time on Thursday, after which work can commence, I am told. Still hoping for new bathroom by Christmas.

Mädchen (Madchen), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 15:28 (thirteen years ago) link

Obviously, not everyone has it as bad as me :)

Mädchen (Madchen), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 15:29 (thirteen years ago) link

xpost No, we have to hold really. Unless we relocate to somewhere cheaper. We couldn't afford the house we have now, if we were buying it now.

mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 15:31 (thirteen years ago) link

also, who here is a landlord? if I can get a basement tenant to pay a chunk of my mortgage every month, why not? or is it too much work?

I think it's a pain in the ass. I rent out a house I bought last year as a fixer-upper, to people I'm friends with, and it's a pain just making arrangements to do any little amount of work that needs to be done without intruding. So, put that into your basement .. someone always being around would suck, and if you need to pull out the tennant's bed to make sure water isn't leaking from a pipe, you can't just walk in and do it. Seems like too much work to me, but other people may be willing to put up with it for the extra money.

D.I.Y. U.N.K.L.E. (dave225.3), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 15:45 (thirteen years ago) link

Argh, Madchen - maybe I should get that damp fixed before I move in. :-/

Please Snap StressTwig (kate), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 15:47 (thirteen years ago) link

Mädchen, that's horrible! A colleague had a similar problem. :-(

Nathalie (stevie nixed), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 16:00 (thirteen years ago) link

we just moved in a month ago, if we had cut it any closer to my due date I think it would have been a bad idea. We closed on the house in late september and took a month to have some stuff done to it, but it was all cosmetic--the house was in great shape and we just figured that it would be easier to paint/refinish floors before we moved in. I think even if you buy a house in good shape, there's still going to be plenty of things that you want to do with it, so budget time and money for that.

I've never been a landlord but dave's advice seems to make a lot of sense. What area of the country are you in? are real estate prices outrageous there?

teeny (teeny), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 16:12 (thirteen years ago) link

oh and don't forget that your wife won't be able to lift anything, pay for movers or start sucking up to your friends now.

teeny (teeny), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 16:19 (thirteen years ago) link

Oh, that's rotten, Madchen.

We're still waiting to exchange too. Time is running out - once mortgage offer expires in four weeks it's all over as we can't get an extension (Pam will no longer be a full-time employee on additional maternity leave, she'll be unemployed).

This has been going on for five months. I've completely lost any enthusiasm I had for the move because every time I glance at the property section of the local freesheet or open an estate agent email, I see something better which needs less work. Each time we've decided we've had enough (early August when the estate agent couldn't find us a buyer; early October when the delays up the chain seemed neverending), we've been encouraged to stick with it by some new piece of progress. This time we're only half-heartedly looking elsewhere because it's not very likely we'll find a chain-free place that we love and that we can complete on in four weeks.

Meanwhile, we eat off the two or three plates that haven't been bubble-wrapped and listen to the handful of CDs that evaded the pack, surrounded by 90-odd boxes.

So, "D" then.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 16:20 (thirteen years ago) link

The house buying process that is, not the actual house itself.

the actual house collapsing sounds like it would be far worse.

We've been looking for the past few months but the market here is quickly spiraling out of our range. stupid yuppies.

Miss Misery xox (MissMiseryTX), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 16:22 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm on my fourth house now, and I've nearly always had lodgers for a while to help pay the rent. I find it great, partly because I don't advertise or anything, I only take in people I already know I will get along with, and I don't mind a bit of extra housework in exchange for extra cash and/or dogminding. Right now my cousin and her husband are living with us and they're spot on, ideal lodgers.

See, lodgers are different from tenants - or they should be, anyway - because they don't get an equal share, so you don't have to give them an equal amount. They are renting a room in your house, not renting half the house. That's how it works for me anyway.

accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 16:24 (thirteen years ago) link

I'd like to buy but even though I'm infected with icky GIRL GERMS we still can't afford to buy anything in stupid London. We're planning to start a savings account for a deposit though so maybe in a few years things will be different.

Colonel Poo (Colonel Poo), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 16:25 (thirteen years ago) link

See, part of the reason that I'm buying MINE OWN house is because I started out being a tenant (or so I thought) and then got switched to being a lodger without anyone telling me. Grrrr.

::thinks about beautiful flat of mine own::

::calms down::

Please Snap StressTwig (kate), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 16:28 (thirteen years ago) link

The thing that really made me want to buy my own house was moving hurriedly out of a flat that was being let by a MAD WOMAN into a house that didn't appear to have any hot water. I went from screaming at the landlady's agent to not touch me and to never look at me again, straight over to the new rented house. When I decided to have a nice hot shower, I got into the shower and the water was cold. I cried and cried and vowed that I would never live in rented accommodation again.
Okay, it's not Gone With the Wind, but it's my story.

accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 16:32 (thirteen years ago) link

I've had lodgers too, for a couple months at a time. It wasn't all bad, but then they left a washcloth in the laundry basin and it clogged the drain an overflowed and water got all over.. And even though it was an honest mistake, it's not one I would have made, so it bugged me. And also they always felt the need to talk when I came home from work. Maybe I just can't stand people.

D.I.Y. U.N.K.L.E. (dave225.3), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 16:54 (thirteen years ago) link

The concept of "lodgers" is less common here, but we have talked about taking in a Japanese student, maybe as part of an organized "Homestay" program where you're expected to feed them and be vaguely helpful. Maybe just by putting up some signs at one of the Japanese groceries. But will a lodger be able to handle living under the same roof as a screaming infant in 9 mos time? And will we really want a stranger around as we lose our minds? I'm thinking not so much.

Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 17:07 (thirteen years ago) link

Maybe I should abscond with my deposit and buy a horse instead.

Control your ponies, children! (kate), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 17:14 (thirteen years ago) link

If the homestay programs where I work are anything to go by, you don't know who/what you're going to get, people turn up with all kinds of weird foibles - and if you're cooking for them that's food issues to deal with too. You don't always get to meet them before agreeing to host them - if it's an organised program and they are coming over from Japan - to see if you get on, unlike with traditional tenants or lodgers. Having TWO unpredictable new arrivals at once (baby and student) seems kind of daunting?

Archel (Archel), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 17:16 (thirteen years ago) link

I miss just being able to call a super to fix shit, but I do like the whole ownership and "this is my wall that I can put holes into" feeling. My house's value has increased $10K in the last five years, and I haven't done shit to it.

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 18:59 (thirteen years ago) link

We have had some work done, but even barring that, due to the low purchase cost when we bought in late 2001, we've made about a 50% 'profit'. SF real estate is insane.

M. White (Miguelito), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 19:03 (thirteen years ago) link

Oh my god, I'm so grown up. I just got a quote for building and contents insurance! Eep!

Control your ponies, children! (kate), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 19:17 (thirteen years ago) link

Oh, classic, possibly because we didn't have to do much (just cosmetic stuff to hide the horrible old-woman-ness of the original decor) and ours has almost doubled in value over the last four years. I realise we are very lucky in this respect (having seen Madchen's bathroom firsthand).

Also classic because our outgoings are less than they would be if we were renting, and we get to live on our own and do what we want and IT'S OURS! As Pleasant Plains said, it's the I do like the whole ownership and "this is my wall that I can put holes into" feeling feeling that makes it worthwhile.

ailsa (ailsa), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 20:02 (thirteen years ago) link

I want one, all to myself. A garage where I can put all the nailguns and tools I've inherited and my grandmother's old ceramics kiln, a bathroom I could convert into a real darkroom and a decent kitchen. I could almost afford to rent a small house by myself now, but that just gives me space without the ability to make changes.

Buying new appliances for a house seems like the most fun part of the process. Ooooh stainless steel cooktop. Ooooooh subzero wine fridge.

Erick Dampier is better than Shaq (miloaukerman), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 20:10 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah sure, if you have a nice fat budget. But I remember it as being one of the hassliest bits of buying the house. We had hardly any money left over after buying our first house and it was really tiny so we didn't even bother buying a washing machine and just went to the laundry once a week.
Which actually turned out to be a great idea, because it meant we never had washing hanging around the place.

accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 20:53 (thirteen years ago) link

Haha, yeah that goes without saying. I've gone on too many trips with people we're building houses for while they pick out all their fancy new stainless appliances. It's fun by proxy.

Erick Dampier is better than Shaq (miloaukerman), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 21:04 (thirteen years ago) link

these are a couple of before and after pics of my house i bought in brooklyn a year ago. we have a tenant. we found him on craigslist and totally lucked out. whenever i go out of town i tell him to hang out in the main house and try on all my clothes. there is still a lot of work to do on the house but i figure that will be ongoing. i think that the value has gone up a lot already without us even doing work.

living room/dining room before
http://www.astro.columbia.edu/~feb/pics/livingrm2.jpg
after
http://www.astro.columbia.edu/~feb/newpics/house_livroom2.JPG
http://www.astro.columbia.edu/~feb/newpics/house_livroom3.JPG

kitchen before
http://www.astro.columbia.edu/~feb/pics/kitch2.jpg

after
http://www.astro.columbia.edu/~feb/newpics/house_kitchen.JPG


master bedroom before
http://www.astro.columbia.edu/~feb/pics/master2.jpg

after (with my old roommate using the computer)
http://www.astro.columbia.edu/~feb/newpics/house_bedroom1.JPG

Mendoza Lineman (Carey), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 01:39 (thirteen years ago) link

oh that linked pic should be of the living room looking the other way
http://www.astro.columbia.edu/~feb/newpics/house_livroom3.JPG

and here is the bathroom, the before pic is too big but it used to be all pink and black.

http://www.astro.columbia.edu/~feb/newpics/house_bathroom1.JPG

Mendoza Lineman (Carey), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 01:43 (thirteen years ago) link

Good job of brightening up the place. It looks great.

My wife and I have owned our house since early 87. We love the place. Single family, 90 plus yrs old, awesome mountain views and we'll be here a while yet. Of course there's always something in need of work, but you gotta live somewhere.

jim wentworth (wench), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 02:14 (thirteen years ago) link

Your house looks great, C!

Mary (Mary), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 05:49 (thirteen years ago) link

Someone I vaguely know in Virginia bought a Sears kit house from a hundred years ago. It still has the instructions in it. I think that's the coolest thing.

accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 07:29 (thirteen years ago) link

this makes me want my own house so badly... but alas, i have a lot of growing up to do first.

tres letraj (tehresa), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 07:57 (thirteen years ago) link

growingsaving

jim p. irrelevant (electricsound), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 08:01 (thirteen years ago) link

yes, among other things.

tres letraj (tehresa), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 08:10 (thirteen years ago) link

just closed on my house on halloween. we are only the second owners and it was built in 1941. just minor cosmetics needed to be done, i will post pictures of before and after.

this is the second house we've owned, we sold our condo and made $75000.

bingo (Chris V), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 11:17 (thirteen years ago) link

just dealt with this very issue as a buyer, it is (in the uk) the buyer's responsibility to get a survey; if that shows up work needing doing then they're within their rights to negotiate the price down by the estimated cost. do you have any guarantees from the treatment?

home, home and deranged (ledge), Wednesday, 25 July 2018 10:43 (eleven months ago) link

yeah, my concern is that we will get the treatment done again and still get the same readings, in which case... ???

ogmor, Wednesday, 25 July 2018 10:55 (eleven months ago) link

well we're getting the work done after purchase so anything after that is our (the buyers) problem. getting the seller to do the work before purchase, no idea if that's common or not... maybe we're the suckers here! if you've got guarantees i would've thought that would be a good bargaining chip.

home, home and deranged (ledge), Wednesday, 25 July 2018 11:02 (eleven months ago) link

that feeling when you get the keys to your new house and turn up and the old owners haven't moved all their stuff out yet...

home, home and deranged (ledge), Friday, 27 July 2018 13:49 (eleven months ago) link

ah, this happened to my friends recently, there was a lot of drinking wine in the garden

the seller is doing the work for us, it slowly moves on

ogmor, Friday, 27 July 2018 13:57 (eleven months ago) link

I think that means all the stuff belongs to you, Ledge.

Tim, Friday, 27 July 2018 14:06 (eleven months ago) link

The worst thing is a nice note from the old owners making a gift of the ugly sofa they couldn’t be arsed to move to the tip themselves.

suzy, Friday, 27 July 2018 16:35 (eleven months ago) link

I don't know the details of this stuff but I suspect it's supposed to be explicitly spelled out in the contract (probably in a part no one reads).

My house had been empty when I bought it, but there were a few "staging items," i.e., a few pieces of furniture to give you an idea of what the place would look like when occupied.

Some of the things we didn't care about (they belonged to the listing agent, not the previous owners). But one was an absolutely lovely antique pub table (it fit the room exactly), and we asked for it to stay. But this was just a verbal arrangement, we didn't have it codified contractually.

Of course when we arrived we found the table gone - had to call frantically to get them to bring it back, which they did.

I find your lack of chill disturbing (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 27 July 2018 16:49 (eleven months ago) link

Britishers buying and selling a house - last time I did this you had to have buildings insurance in place on the new house from the completion date. Now it seems it needs to be from exchange which in our case might be a couple of weeks before completion. But I have buildings and contents insurance with the same provider so how does this work - can they move the buildings insurance from exchange but keep the contents insurance until completion? We're going away probably between exchange and completion so want to make sure our contents are insured.

I guess they're essentially two separate policies?

kinder, Friday, 3 August 2018 21:31 (eleven months ago) link

I've now owned my house for 4 years (+3 days) and three different listing sites are estimating it's nearly doubled in value, give or take a couple thousand. Stay put and hope for the best, or sell and move somewhere cheap? Nothing's keeping me here except for laziness and my very average job.

Johnny Fever, Saturday, 4 August 2018 01:40 (eleven months ago) link

if you want to move out of the area, do it. if changing housing in the same area would mean a comparable or worse deal when it comes to location and price, stay

I have considered moving to a cooler social district but it’s less than a ten minute drive away and a one bedroom would be the cost of my mortgage. I mean, wtf? home maintenance sucks but that seems like a raw deal

mh, Saturday, 4 August 2018 04:03 (eleven months ago) link

JF where do you live? I think US real estate is going to flatline and/or go down soon. I kind of think I may have already missed a window for selling in NY (since inventory has gone up and people have slowed down on buying because of tax changes/rates). The last time I sold it was probably a little too early to get the max but the place I bought after has appreciated what I would've made anyway if I had stayed, so it wasn't a loss and it's much easier to maintain where I bought. Just live where you want to live.

Yerac, Saturday, 4 August 2018 04:10 (eleven months ago) link

u.s. real estate is hugely dependent on the market in which one actually lives--imo, real estate in metro boston isn't going down anytime soon b/c we just don't have the right number of houses. JF lives in atlanta iirc and doubling value certainly makes an interesting case to sell if one is not tied to that city.

call all destroyer, Saturday, 4 August 2018 04:20 (eleven months ago) link

Oh yeah, I think Atlanta should keep going up, unless the broader market tanks soon/black swan event. My first place I sold more than doubled and was still going up but I just really didn't want to live there anymore and wanted something easier.

Yerac, Saturday, 4 August 2018 04:25 (eleven months ago) link

I moved to Atlanta in 2011, bought a house in 2014 while the market was still sorta reasonable in various parts of the metro area, and have watched it explode in the 4 years since. If I were buying or renting now, there'd be nothing I could afford pretty much anywhere in Fulton county. I was just looking at estimates to see where things are at right now, but in all honesty I don't really want to sell and move. I'd probably have a hard time buying a comparable house to mine anyplace I'd want to live and keep my mortgage payment at $600 like it is now.

Johnny Fever, Saturday, 4 August 2018 04:54 (eleven months ago) link

That is quite a reasonable mortgage. I suppose the best would be to hang on to it and save, move when prices go down again, rent house out until prices go up and you can sell. Seems like the market shouldnt influence too much of your decision if its not an investment property and you plan to buy in the same area.

Impossible Burgermeat. Unlikely Seitan. (Sufjan Grafton), Saturday, 4 August 2018 05:27 (eleven months ago) link

Things are definitely becoming more buyer-friendly (marginally) in Seattle this year, some of the evidence being that there are actually multiple new condo projects getting planned, one is even converting before construction that was planned as rentals like everything else since the recession. (There’s some bizarre law in Washington that I guess means some lawyers have a cottage industry where they get to sue every condo developer as a matter of course? I don’t know the details.)

devops mom (silby), Saturday, 4 August 2018 06:22 (eleven months ago) link

My wife and I are moving out of London, something we would have done in maybe 10 years (when we'd be in our mid-fifties) but my wife got very sick two years back and is still in a long recovery process, London is a tough place to be if you don't move at everyone else's pace and my sis in law and wife's parents had a plan to move to Norfolk this year, so we are doing the same, selling the house, paying off the mortgage and cash buying a place.

We've found a lovely house in a great little town, and now things are moving, got an offer on our place, had our offer accepted, booked a survey, getting quotes from removals companies, slowly packing up spare rooms, yesterday I sat down with my two solicitor's quotes and there's a £960 difference between them, lot's of head scratching, now for two/three/however many months of freefall wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

MaresNest, Saturday, 4 August 2018 10:05 (eleven months ago) link

600 bux for a mortgage is madness to me (nyc)

YouTube_-_funy_cats.flv (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Saturday, 4 August 2018 14:15 (eleven months ago) link

Yeah, that is insane.

Yerac, Saturday, 4 August 2018 14:48 (eleven months ago) link

Be my neighbors! The houses on each side of my property are vacant and are deteriorating quickly after being abandoned by owners who were in various stages of rehabilitating them (one of them is basically just a frame with a brand new roof on it, and it's been like that since summer 2016—I expect it's just going to collapse on itself one day).

So yeah, my mortgage is affordable and I have no directly adjacent neighbors (plenty other people on the street, though, just not next to me), but I also think the value estimates don't take into account I live in a perfectly nice house between two should-be-condemned properties.

Johnny Fever, Saturday, 4 August 2018 15:02 (eleven months ago) link

The frustrating thing is that other houses all throughout the neighborhood have been rehabbed and quickly turned around for waaaaaaay more than I bought mine for. These two houses are just cursed or something.

Johnny Fever, Saturday, 4 August 2018 15:15 (eleven months ago) link

I would sit on it for at least five or six more years.

Sure, you'd make back on what you bought it for, but all you've really been paying since 2014 is your interest. Get some of that principal paid, sell it for 20% more or whatever, and you'll really feel like you've made some money.

pplains, Saturday, 4 August 2018 15:29 (eleven months ago) link

I actually keep looking at land in Winterville (near Athens). Is there ever going to be a train from athens to atlanta? I keep seeing things about it.

Yerac, Saturday, 4 August 2018 17:15 (eleven months ago) link

I wouldn't hold my breath. There's not even a straight shot on the Interstate from Athens to Atlanta.

Johnny Fever, Saturday, 4 August 2018 17:26 (eleven months ago) link

Every community has their second ave subway

YouTube_-_funy_cats.flv (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Saturday, 4 August 2018 17:56 (eleven months ago) link

BLOODY solicitors!

Both times selling a property, we've had the normal solicitor go on holiday and older gentlemen fill in (different ones, apparently) who actually cannot use email or even look up anything basic on the internet.
Today he called and was reading random sentences of my own email of questions back to me in order to answer the same questions I was re-asking on the phone.

kinder, Monday, 6 August 2018 20:13 (eleven months ago) link

i already have a house that i love but this wonderful foursquare is on one of the most beautiful streets in town. i won't buy it but i want it. maybe a tad overpriced, it needs some cosmetic work, not hugely crazy about the kitchen updates but within the next 5 years i think this will be considered a great price for this house especially considering all the other houses are this street are gorgeous. we looked at a few on this street when we were house hunting and i regret not buying one there.

https://www.redfin.com/OH/Lakewood/1452-Northland-Ave-44107/home/70838312?utm_source=myredfin&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=instant_listings_update&riftinfo=ZXY9ZW1haWwmbD04MTIyMjU0JnA9bGlzdGluZ191cGRhdGVzX2luc3RhbnRfMTUmdHM9MTUzMzg0NjkzMDY2OSZhPWNsaWNrJnM9c2F2ZWRfc2VhcmNoJnQ9aW1hZ2UmZW1haWxfaWQ9ODEyMjI1NF8xNTMzODQ2OTIwXzImdXBkYXRlX3R5cGU9MyZzYXZlZF9zZWFyY2hfaWQ9MTc4NzMyMjAmbGlzdGluZ19pZD04NjIzMjkzOCZwcm9wZXJ0eV9pZD03MDgzODMxMiZwb3NpdGlvbl9udW1iZXI9MQ==

marcos, Friday, 10 August 2018 16:15 (eleven months ago) link

That’s a Big Family house

YouTube_-_funy_cats.flv (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Friday, 10 August 2018 19:03 (eleven months ago) link

jesus that's ugly inside. look at how the fridge sticks out, lol. nice porch tho.

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Friday, 10 August 2018 20:31 (eleven months ago) link

it has *potential*

i love the gold brick foundation, all that gorgeous woodwork throughout

marcos, Friday, 10 August 2018 20:50 (eleven months ago) link

Extensive house hunting today, i day of three smells:

1) the awful cologne of estate agents
2) even worse scented candles
3) the carpet glue smell that hold down the awful cheap grey carpet that seems to have become a mandatory precursor to listing a house.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Saturday, 11 August 2018 06:57 (eleven months ago) link

two months pass...

moved in today. chaos obv but I am surprised at how good I feel. I didn't think I cared that much, but the thought I might never have to deal with a landlord again is incredible

ogmor, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 12:33 (nine months ago) link

great stuff ogmor, congrats

just sold our house and had an offer accepted on a new place over the weekend, now plunged into the tedious world of arranging contracts, getting movers arranged &c &c

super-psyched to have more space into which i can expand my store of clutter over the next few years

himalayan mountain hole (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 17 October 2018 13:19 (nine months ago) link

congrats ogmor & bg! good luck to you all

marcos, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 13:23 (nine months ago) link

i'm digging my house a lot these days, though i already want to change the color of the walls on the first floor

marcos, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 13:24 (nine months ago) link

ah, yes, new house means more scope for clutter, this is surely the true purpose of moving. what is a home but useful clutter? we've never really had to discuss home decor before and suddenly we have to work out our taste. a bit of painting is on the cards. the cats are spooked.

ogmor, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 13:40 (nine months ago) link

Current circumstances mean this is in my thoughts at the moment.

First step: I have started segregating clutter.

Bimlo Horsewagon became Wheelbarrow Horseflesh (aldo), Wednesday, 17 October 2018 14:19 (nine months ago) link

didn't you move not so long ago? hope all's ok

Here's my biggest biggest tip ever - get anything and everything agreed explicitly in writing with your buyers/sellers even if you assume it's obvious.

Certain people in our transaction are making my life a total misery.

kinder, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 15:38 (nine months ago) link

5-6 years since last move, which was a drama.

This is... different. Not really in a position to talk about it yet except that it'll probably involve downsizing which is great for clutter management motivation.

Bimlo Horsewagon became Wheelbarrow Horseflesh (aldo), Wednesday, 17 October 2018 15:41 (nine months ago) link

Hope you find your ideal place. <3

kinder, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 15:47 (nine months ago) link

That's the problem, this a a huge thing which for me I'm sure will be the ideal place but Mrs aldo requires more of a leap of faith.

Location definitely doesn't have the same type of housing available and the best/easiest answer will involve somewhere smaller. Decluttering will be helpful beyond any need to do so to be honest, and I'll end up doing it anyway.

Bimlo Horsewagon became Wheelbarrow Horseflesh (aldo), Wednesday, 17 October 2018 17:59 (nine months ago) link

we’ve been in a couple months now and have so far:
- repointed outside
- cleared gutters at front
- installed new bathroom
- sanded and varnished upstairs throughout
- plastered and painted upstairs throughout
- stripped all wallpaper
- repaired and reseated the double glazing

not sure what to do now. we had thought we were going to build an extension to connect the house to the garden but the architect has quoted figures which are substantially north of what we’d expected. if the garden was south facing (it’s NE) I would probably not balk because I know I would live there long enough (10+ years) to recoup but I’m in two minds. it’s hard to know how “bad” the garden is without having lived a summer with it. it’s quite long so should hopefully get some sun up the back till quite late on... ?

depressing

||||||||, Thursday, 18 October 2018 14:51 (nine months ago) link

Have you weatherproofed everything for the winter?

Yerac, Thursday, 18 October 2018 15:22 (nine months ago) link

seeing a lot of price drops in my hood, def starting to look like a buyers market again

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Thursday, 18 October 2018 15:23 (nine months ago) link

there were articles last month about how nyc was cutting prices on the most listed apartments since 2006.

Yerac, Thursday, 18 October 2018 15:45 (nine months ago) link

we have some original cupboards (edinburgh presses) and wardrobes (from 1927) and they are soooooo narrow. whyyyyyyyyyyyyy ? I can't even hang a suit in one e.g.

||||||||, Saturday, 20 October 2018 18:14 (nine months ago) link

Yeah our last place had built-in wardrobes either side of the chimney breast but they're too shallow to hang anything sideways. hanging frontways plus shelves, was the answer.

kinder, Saturday, 20 October 2018 18:29 (nine months ago) link

two months pass...

There are probably a million things wrong with this place (oh, that sliding glass door,) but there's also probably a billion cool things that are right.

https://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/506-Sands-Ct_Gallup_NM_87301_M26502-77696#photo23

✈️✈️ (pplains), Friday, 28 December 2018 05:08 (six months ago) link

six months pass...

so today my neighbor's adult son, who is a handyman by trade and cleans his folks' yard every week, tells us that he believe's he's owed compensation for cleaning up leaf litter from the trees on my property that share a boundary with theirs. there are several trees and they drop a fair amount of debris, but nothing harmful to their property by what I understand to be the law in this kind of situation. They're not the friendliest people in the world, so this feels an awful lot like a shakedown. What am i supposed to do, pay him every week to keep his own yard clean?

― Scam jam, thank you ma’am (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, May 17, 2018 4:04 PM (one year ago)

For god's sake he's back at it, albeit this time not explicitly trying to get me to pay him. In the ensuing year, I've taken it upon myself to very tidily trim the hedge/privacy screen between us and his mother's property, trim the tree in my yard to about half the size it has been for the last 5 years, and remove all dead branches from the tree in my backyard that borders their property. Now yesterday he's out telling me that the tree planted by the city in front of my house is "a fire hazard". He's telling me I need to be responsible for the leaves it's dropping (it's a big magnolia and sheds huge leathery leaves regularly). "I don't know what the status is with your parents, but my parents can't be having all these leaves in front of their house. This is ridiculous." I tried to straight out ignore him but he kept going on about it. All I could manage to get out in a courteous manner was "you have the issue completely wrong and I'm done discussing it with you".

the public eating of beans (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, 11 July 2019 17:56 (one week ago) link


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