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Gandolfini was irl one of the most famous grads of Rutgers' Mason Gross theater school fwiw.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Monday, 4 October 2021 18:41 (two years ago) link

Caputo: DiYah hear? Goddamn juice place movin in here!

Patsy: Jews? What Jews?

Caputo: Juice . . . juice, Jamba Juice! Ya boss went and sold the building!

... (Eazy), Monday, 4 October 2021 19:32 (two years ago) link

"You listen to me now. Before you do any more serious damage to yourself or your grandchildren's inheritance, you're gonna stop living alone, right now."

"I'm not going to that nursing home."

"Green Grove is a retirement community! And it's more like a hotel at Captain Teeb's!"

"Who's he?"

"A captain that owns luxury hotels or something, I don't know. That's not the point. "

Gardyloominati (Neanderthal), Monday, 4 October 2021 19:59 (two years ago) link

Reading that post I can still hear exactly how Tony says "retirement community" as his frustration level rises.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 4 October 2021 20:06 (two years ago) link

the "I know seniors who are inspired" right after always kills me, the way he tries to copy Dr Melfi and fucks it up routinely

Gardyloominati (Neanderthal), Monday, 4 October 2021 20:11 (two years ago) link

"Y'know you're like the old woman who's got a Virginia ham under her arm and she goes around crying cuz she's got no bread"

"what the fuck?"

"nevermind"

Gardyloominati (Neanderthal), Monday, 4 October 2021 20:29 (two years ago) link

Accents are great all around but "Muddah" and "Faddah" always leap out as cringe

calstars, Monday, 4 October 2021 20:50 (two years ago) link

it's also pretty accurate.

Gardyloominati (Neanderthal), Monday, 4 October 2021 20:58 (two years ago) link

my father (when he still could talk) pretty much sounded like that, as well as my late aunt.

Gardyloominati (Neanderthal), Monday, 4 October 2021 20:59 (two years ago) link

"You listen to me now. Before you do any more serious damage to yourself or your grandchildren's inheritance, you're gonna stop living alone, right now."

"I'm not going to that nursing home."

"Green Grove is a retirement community! And it's more like a hotel at Captain Teeb's!"

"Who's he?"

"A captain that owns luxury hotels or something, I don't know. That's not the point. "

I just watched this. Cap d'Antibes ---> Captain Teeb's is Chase just clowning these morons. Incredible.

Hannibal Lecture (PBKR), Monday, 4 October 2021 22:07 (two years ago) link

That’s making a show for that era of HBO, I think: making the audience feel smart + feel like an insider in the world of the show (Sopranos, Wire, Sex and the Coty, etc.).

... (Eazy), Monday, 4 October 2021 23:46 (two years ago) link

You want Tony to be smarter? Or the audience to be dumber?

I think Chase absolutely is saying something about these characters (and by proxy, America) by having everyone on the show be dumb af.

Hannibal Lecture (PBKR), Monday, 4 October 2021 23:56 (two years ago) link

you're flexiiiiiiiiiiiiin

Gardyloominati (Neanderthal), Monday, 4 October 2021 23:58 (two years ago) link

Stripper, on stage at the Bada Bing upon hearing the tv news report on the death of Jackie Aprile: "I'll always remember where I was!"

Hannibal Lecture (PBKR), Tuesday, 5 October 2021 01:19 (two years ago) link

What's Ralph Cifaretto's favorite Dr Seuss book?

Horton Hears a Who-re

Gardyloominati (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 5 October 2021 01:32 (two years ago) link

Corey Stoll as Uncle Junior in the movie seems pretty good choice. He was awesome in House of Cards.

earlnash, Tuesday, 5 October 2021 01:36 (two years ago) link

yeah I always liked Stoll. last thing I saw him in was the first Ant Man though lol

Gardyloominati (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 5 October 2021 01:37 (two years ago) link

watching Funhouse episode, they turn a tender moment with Carmela comforting a depressed Tony following an existential nightmare with him running to the toilet violently farting.

and then the heartbreaking "not in the face".

Gardyloominati (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 5 October 2021 01:40 (two years ago) link

No real spoilers, but if you want to go in cold, skip this.

Good idea, as always, to forgot the series, beyond knowing who is who. The tone, humour, etc.--can't capture that.

Not terrible, though. Performances I liked: 1) Having said that about forgetting the series, Vera Farmiga gets Livia exactly right. A couple of line readings were uncanny; 2) Alessandro Nivola (Dickie) and Leslie Odom Jr. (Harold) were both good; 3) Michela De Rossi had to be exceedingly beautiful, and she was. Also, Ray Liotta #2 was pretty good, making up for Ray Liotta #1.

I was so preoccupied with trying to figure out where I knew Michael Gandolfini from (not even thinking about his father, because I had forgotten all about that)--it's The Deuce, which I just finished--that got in the way for me. But at times, I could see Tony. Again, I had forgotten who I was watching.

The soundtrack is mostly random and not particularly effective. "Astral Weeks" worked well. (I'll also mention the last/end-credits song. Probably obvious for most people, caught me by surprise. It's a song I've always disliked, but I thought it actually worked here.)

Best "Of course!" moment: Carmela. (Speaking of which, who is the guy Tony pummels in that scene, beside the phone booth? Was that teenage Richie? Teenage Tony Blundetto? I didn't catch a name.)

I couldn't take Corey Stoll seriously, even though he looked like Junior. He's House of Cards for me. I thought whoever played Silvio gave far and away the most affectatious performance. Not bizarre and funny affectatious, though, like Steve Van Zandt. Just affectatious.

clemenza, Tuesday, 5 October 2021 02:27 (two years ago) link

The guy with Carmela and Tony was Jacky Aprile. But the only reason I even know this is thanks to Rolling Stone's (bizarrely detailled and obsessive) recap. I have no idea how they worked it out (maybe just from credits?)

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Tuesday, 5 October 2021 02:38 (two years ago) link

But for those of a bent for fan-obsessive detail its not a bad read:

https://www.rollingstone.com/movies/movie-features/many-saints-newark-recap-spoilers-1232129/

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Tuesday, 5 October 2021 02:39 (two years ago) link

Thanks...Jacky, yeah--died of cancer in the first season.

clemenza, Tuesday, 5 October 2021 02:39 (two years ago) link

Also liked the overlap with American Gangster, although this Frank Lucas couldn't have been more different from Denzel's.

clemenza, Tuesday, 5 October 2021 02:41 (two years ago) link

knocked out the first three seasons in under a week. It holds up surprisingly well! Lots of smart touches, constantly compelling (if somewhat repetitive) storylines. what i'm consistently most impressed by is the sharp plotting and the acting from everybody but especially gandolfini and falco. they are so fucking good it's ridiculous.

When Young Sheldon began to rap (forksclovetofu), Friday, 8 October 2021 05:49 (two years ago) link

a major downside of watching 32 hours of the sopranos over five days is that i've got the tetris effect going on where i end up saying "why ya bustin my balls heah?" to my mother.

i got a neck procedure done today at my pain doctor and they put me out then apparently escorted me out to a group recovery room and when i came to, there was a huge italian-looking guy sitting in the chair across from me moaning and writhing in a chair that was far too small for him and i had a weird confused moment of thinking I fell asleep watching the show and this was a melfi/tony scene that i had fallen into

When Young Sheldon began to rap (forksclovetofu), Friday, 8 October 2021 05:58 (two years ago) link

Watched "The Legend of Tennessee Moltisanti" (S1 E8) which has Christopher's hilariously wrong summation of Keanu Reaves' character arc in the movie "The Devil's Advocate".

Hannibal Lecture (PBKR), Friday, 8 October 2021 11:50 (two years ago) link

thinking about many saints of newark intermittently since I saw Sunday night in the theatre and it just seems worse and worse on reflection. a total turd

《Myst1kOblivi0n》 (jim in vancouver), Friday, 8 October 2021 22:19 (two years ago) link

lol, all I can retrospectively think about it is: just how fucking shite it was. They did a decent flashback to Tony's dad/Junior back in the day episode in one of the latter seasons and all this had to do was continue in a similar vein for a bit longer, but without all the very tedious fan service. But then again this type of shit needs to stop tbh. I feel like a guileless rube for even thinking it might be good!

calzino, Friday, 8 October 2021 23:18 (two years ago) link

Why was Steve buscemi on this show. HBO contract I guess

calstars, Friday, 8 October 2021 23:23 (two years ago) link

Loved him and his padded-shoulder white sportcoat.

... (Eazy), Friday, 8 October 2021 23:38 (two years ago) link

Probably my favourite season

《Myst1kOblivi0n》 (jim in vancouver), Friday, 8 October 2021 23:41 (two years ago) link

"M'boy are you fat"

calzino, Friday, 8 October 2021 23:42 (two years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcIcNu-ahXQ

calzino, Friday, 8 October 2021 23:54 (two years ago) link

Why was Steve buscemi on this show. HBO contract I guess

David Chase was a big fan of Trees Lounge (a couple of cast members end up on The Sopranos too) and hired him to direct (Pine Barrens is his first episode) before adding him into the cast.

Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 9 October 2021 19:03 (two years ago) link

My favorite funny line from the show: 'It's an idea, I don't know. Who knows where it fucking came from? Isaac Newton invented gravity because some asshole hit him with an apple.'

Donald Fhtagen (Old Lunch), Saturday, 9 October 2021 21:15 (two years ago) link

Buscemi was great in the show!

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Sunday, 10 October 2021 00:56 (two years ago) link

sure was

lag∞n, Sunday, 10 October 2021 17:12 (two years ago) link

woke up this morning

When Young Sheldon began to rap (forksclovetofu), Monday, 11 October 2021 06:34 (two years ago) link

Feeling around for my shoes

Spiral Scratchiti (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 11 October 2021 15:27 (two years ago) link

I like the recurring S1 bit where Tony storms out of therapy session at least 1x per episode only to show up with his tail between his legs at his next appointment.

[to Dr. Melfi] “Last week I called you a whore...That might have been overstating the case a little bit.” -Tony

— The Sopranos Quotes (@thesopranosNJ) October 11, 2019

Hannibal Lecture (PBKR), Monday, 11 October 2021 16:12 (two years ago) link

Hate your mudder

Gardyloominati (Neanderthal), Monday, 11 October 2021 16:19 (two years ago) link

of course there was also the episode where he destroyed her furniture and almost physically assaulted her

Gardyloominati (Neanderthal), Monday, 11 October 2021 16:19 (two years ago) link

The Columbus Day episode >>>>>>>> Many Saints of Newark

Chris L, Monday, 11 October 2021 16:28 (two years ago) link

Maybe obvious, but the absolute funniest moment in all of Sopranos to me is Chrissy's monologue at Livia's wake, esp with his stoned affect

They say there's no two people on Earth exactly the same. No two faces. No two sets of fingerprints. But do they know that for sure? Because they would have to get everybody together in one huge space and obviously that’s not possible, even with computers. And not only that, they’d have to get all the people who've ever lived, not just the ones now. So they got no proof. They got nothing. Mrs. Soprano may have passed but who’s to say there isn’t another Mrs. Soprano just like her, or will be? Maybe not with the same fears and paranoia but the same.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Monday, 11 October 2021 16:40 (two years ago) link

FWIW in the Chapo ep on Many Saints of Newark, one of them (I think Felix?) had a good read on all the stupidity and malpropisms that it isn't just fun at the expense of the characters but shows how removed these guys are from normal society. But I also think it serves a function of demystifying the mafia, which is something the show tries to do a lot -- i.e. these are not brilliant supercriminals, they're hacks. "More of a glorified crew" if you will, except of course even the New York gang isn't too bright, just sharper by comparison.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Monday, 11 October 2021 16:45 (two years ago) link

they're often good tacticians (on the show at least) but they often don't know how the rest of the world works and they appear so fish out of water.

like Tony Soprano getting angry af about being charged a co-pay despite cancelling the session

Gardyloominati (Neanderthal), Monday, 11 October 2021 16:48 (two years ago) link

right, I think the show sees them largely as instinctual beings -- often with strong instincts -- but without much understanding of things beyond "their thing."

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Monday, 11 October 2021 16:56 (two years ago) link

all the stupidity and malpropisms that it isn't just fun at the expense of the characters

I don't think it's ever been about fun. The stupidity is just an example of how their venality corrupts them and everyone around them.

In other words, this is America, we're dumb as rocks and twice as evil/greedy, and if you aren't careful, we will drag you down to our level.

Hannibal Lecture (PBKR), Monday, 11 October 2021 17:00 (two years ago) link

It feels post-post-watergate to me. All the institutions are rotten to the core. Even the mob.

Hannibal Lecture (PBKR), Monday, 11 October 2021 17:01 (two years ago) link

they're basically the type of people that, when not doing their mob duties, are mass forwarding emails about DO NOT BUY GAS AT CITGO, ARABIAN TERRORISTS HAVE PUT NEEDLES UNDER THE PUMP to family members

Gardyloominati (Neanderthal), Monday, 11 October 2021 17:01 (two years ago) link


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