Sopranos

"The death of this series' main character, which was built up to for the entire episode and left outrageously, deliberately unresolved, isn't the point"

basically, it could be his way of saying "it's not the point."

Yes, this. I would love it if he'd make a definitive statement like that every few years and flip it 180˚ each time.

Really great casting,

this really holds true throughout the entire show imo

yeah, keep watchin' morbs!!!

knew u wld love it

I like it alright. I don't love it.

btw I watched All the President's Men again, and Dominic Chianese is one of the burglars (I think in shirtsleeves?)

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/42sANL2ap9A/mqdefault.jpg

and they're busted by F Murray Abraham

Peter Bogdanovich's interview with Chase on the s1 set is funny for the way PB of course cites Ford, Hawks, Welles (since they're around the same age, Chase at least knows what he's talking about).

I was constantly struck by how much of the Sopranos cast shows up in Woody Allen films (often in tiny bit parts)

"The death of this series' main character, which was built up to for the entire episode and left outrageously, deliberately unresolved, isn't the point"

― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand)

i think it's part of the point but i also think it's not unresolved at all, and i think chase's reluctance to answer maybe stems from his thinking that it doesn't need to be explained and to explain it robs it of its poetry.

of course he dies... eventually

(when is a detail)

UPDATE: Chase's publicist put out the following statement:

A journalist for Vox misconstrued what David Chase said in their interview. To simply quote David as saying,“ Tony Soprano is not dead,” is inaccurate. There is a much larger context for that statement and as such, it is not true.

As David Chase has said numerous times on the record, “Whether Tony Soprano is alive or dead is not the point.” To continue to search for this answer is fruitless. The final scene of THE SOPRANOS raises a spiritual question that has no right or wrong answer.

lawl

everything abt this is funny but none more so than this http://www.theverge.com/2014/8/27/6075535/are-you-proud-of-yourself-savedyouaclick-question-mark-nope

The hero can't dead till the last reel

see it's a mob show (which Tracer got) and an existential dreamscape (well)

Really great casting is thanks to Christopher Walken's wife.

Stick around for Polly Bergen.

yes right, I just found out about that casting duo.

I was constantly struck by how much of the Sopranos cast shows up in Woody Allen films (often in tiny bit parts)

Chase cast entirely out of New York, at least in the first season, as Allen generally has. Though the only substantial actor in a Woody film I can think of is Jerry Adler in Manhattan Murder Mystery, who played Hesh the slick lawyer in Sopranos.

The way Tony and his lower-case family are talking around the coffee shop table in the last ep, it's like they've already dismissed the Family---and of course, cousin*/"nephew"/maybe "son" Christopher is dead, surrogate uncle or brother Sal the sane manager is dead, Tony as boss or whatever his title is, seems dead in the water power-wise--prob doesn't have all that much money, since he didn't at his peak,as his senior Jewish consultant, the guy with the studio, once estimated for another non-made guy. So, whether those guys really are coming to kill him and maybe his relatives or not--hell, maybe they're working for him now, some new bodyguards or something---it's just another thing that happens, in the midst of and after a bunch of other stuff.
*Back when Cousin Buscemi got out of prison and started palling around with Tony, as little Christopher trailed behind, made fun of by the big guys, like when they were all three kids: think that was when Carmela explained to another lady that he was a cousin, but so young that Tony felt obliged or moved to treat him as his nephew.

Dominic Chianese starred in a Woody Allen play in '04 (one I never saw or read):

http://www.playbill.com/news/article/87907-Michael-McKean-Dominic-Chianese-Martha-Plimpton-Star-in-Woody-Allens-Memory-This-Fall

basically, it could be his way of saying "it's not the point."

― son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), woensdag 27 augustus 2014 17:44 (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Bingo: David Chase: “Sopranos” piece on Vox “is inaccurate,” “not true”

http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/2014/08/27/david_chase_vox_article_the_sopranos_showrunner_responds_to_tony_soprano.html

^^^ i hate this guy

of course he dies... eventually

― son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, August 27, 2014 12:07 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

(when is a detail)

― son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, August 27, 2014 12:07 PM (Yesterday)

this is otm. tony doesn't die onscreen, so he's technically alive at the end of the show. but he might die in 5 minutes, or it might be 5 years. i think one of the points of the show is that living that life will eventually have consequences for you and the people you love. he can't escape it

And seeing him get shot would be to bring an end to that anxiety, but instead it ends with that ongoing anxiety itself.

this is otm. tony doesn't die onscreen, so he's technically alive at the end of the show. but he might die in 5 minutes, or it might be 5 years. i think one of the points of the show is that living that life will eventually have consequences for you and the people you love. he can't escape it

― k3vin k., Thursday, August 28, 2014 10:24 AM (11 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

no, the seconds of blackness can very easily be read as his death

the show doesn't end when it cuts to black, it ends when the credits roll

those seconds of blackness are part of the show's narrative

that's a fair reading, i don't dispute that

well then you are a gentleman sir.

read yr blog posts people he is dead http://masterofsopranos.wordpress.com/the-sopranos-definitive-explanation-of-the-end

surely the show ends when the credits are over not when they start.

just sayin

if you have any evidence that the sopranos credits sequences have ever sustained the narrative, i'm all ears

His mother was named "livia" which is awfully close to "live" and I think derives from "olive." Tony soprano live / tony sopranolive / tony sopran olive

Best answer I got

The thing everybody always leaves out is that the final episode is crappy and anti-climactic no matter whether he lives or dies, and that the final sequence is quite boringly directed.

That's the most bonkers theory yet!

that is ridiculous

I won't stop believin'

the final scene is masterful 500%

otm

life is boringly directed, esp if you're eating onion rings in a diner in Bloomfield.

Mr Veg reminded me that I thought the tv was broken when we saw that ending

https://twitter.com/tnyfrontrow/status/507226969411690497

O rings = contraception = no new life?

LOL whoops wrong thread

looool

you want me to zap that post stevie?

i missed this episode

xp yeah uh maybe we should go ahead and whack that one

morbs how far are you now?

s2, four in

stopping for awhile due to baseball probly

Holy shit the Tony dream episode in S5 is awful.

no.