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I thought February would never get here but it's coming around. The Sopranos. Do you like it?

Tracer Hand, Saturday, 5 January 2002 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

The question could be off-putting because of the Sopranos' value as a kind of deluxe maple symbol of your ability to afford HBO. But whatever, I have a housemate, and we split it. The Sopranos is the main reason.

Tracer Hand, Saturday, 5 January 2002 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Let me say this. I don't have cable. I have a rather negative view of television in general. But on Thanksgiving afternoon, my roommates rented all of the Sopranos 2nd season from Blockbuster, and I honestly sat in one spot for close to SEVEN HOURS watching the ENTIRE SEASON BACK TO BACK. It's that fucking good. And...I wanted more.

Gage-o, Saturday, 5 January 2002 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

I liked it when I was getting HBO for free at my old apartment. I have no idea what it's like now.

Nicole, Saturday, 5 January 2002 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

It's uneven, but some episodes are very very good. I'm thinking in particular of the Buscemi-directed "Pine Barrens" episode from last season where Chris and Paulie get lost in the snow, and Tony and Annabelle Sciorra really have it out. The sound effects people outdid themselves on the various ways cell phones can break up. The scriptwriters outdid themselves by twisting Beckett and Tennessee Williams around each other like wysteria (connected only by the faulty cellphone). The actors outdid each other by breaking through their reserves of cool and actually showing their need.

Tracer Hand, Saturday, 5 January 2002 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Sopranos = Twin Peaks for the new Millenium.

JM, Sunday, 6 January 2002 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

compared to 'twin peaks' with respect to...?

I don't think a whole lot of 'the sopranos'.

richard john gillanders, Sunday, 6 January 2002 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Sopranos = Twin Peaks for the new Millenium.

You're getting The Sopranos confuzed with Six Feet Under!!!!!!!

Andy K., Sunday, 6 January 2002 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

five years pass...

Someone on the radio, a (here at least) famous rock journo, said of Sopranos:"GOOD RIDDANCE! They wanted Tony to be LIKEABLE! How crap is taht?" hahahahahah I never roffled so much since I saw him at a journo-wanko talk in Amsterdam about 7 years ago.

nathalie, Friday, 21 September 2007 10:00 (thirteen years ago) link

one year passes...

Today on Amazon.com's Deals page: Sopranos entire series for $149.99! I have actually been checking this page semi-daily for a month or so hoping to stumble across this set, since they have a lot of DVD deals.

skeletal lexing (Finefinemusic), Monday, 19 January 2009 22:12 (twelve years ago) link

three weeks pass...

i saw that :)

s1ocki, Tuesday, 10 February 2009 00:57 (twelve years ago) link

At one point, I had the idea to put every incidence of Bodie spitting between his teeth in a montage, but then realized I don't know shit about editing software and am too lazy to learn.

Magdalen Goobers (Oilyrags), Tuesday, 10 February 2009 01:28 (twelve years ago) link

s1ocki, Tuesday, 10 February 2009 02:12 (twelve years ago) link

s1ocki, Tuesday, 10 February 2009 02:14 (twelve years ago) link

and who could forget

l8b100m3r (latebloomer), Tuesday, 10 February 2009 02:16 (twelve years ago) link

http://www.boingboing.net/2009/02/09/every-swear-word-on.html

This is like the "The Story of Everest" of those compilation videos (or, if you prefer, sub "the rake gag" for "The Story of Everest").

Jouster, Tuesday, 10 February 2009 03:03 (twelve years ago) link

five months pass...

I don't know why exactly, but I think Phil Leotardo doesn't look as a convincing threatening badass villain. Maybe he lacks charisma. When Ralph or Johnny Sack or Richie is on the screen you could really feel their presences. Not so with Phil.

dan138zig (Durrr Durrr Durrrrrr), Sunday, 2 August 2009 11:18 (eleven years ago) link

five months pass...

Starting season 4. Notes on series so far: LOVE Adirana La Cerva, LOVE Artie Bucco (wish there was more of him), also wish there was more Ginny Sack.

Can't stand AJ at ALL. Kind of wish he'd just get killed off. Also frustrated with the whole "Meadow you're so spoiled, we give you everything" / "GOD mom leave me aLONE!!" runarounds, where nothing actually happens (she keeps getting spoiled and is a brat). Could do without her too.

kate moss and heavy machinery in a dessert (Stevie D), Tuesday, 12 January 2010 16:58 (eleven years ago) link

check the individual season threads

larry craig memorial gloryhole (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 12 January 2010 17:09 (eleven years ago) link

Also, Carm's hair got SO much more chic and beautiful between the end of S3 and the beginning of S4. I'm really liking the direction her style is taking.

kate moss and heavy machinery in a dessert (Stevie D), Tuesday, 12 January 2010 17:30 (eleven years ago) link

OMG @ S4E04, "The Weight". An entire episode of Ginny Sac!

kate moss and heavy machinery in a dessert (Stevie D), Saturday, 16 January 2010 06:25 (eleven years ago) link

ginny is great

J0rdan S., Saturday, 16 January 2010 06:28 (eleven years ago) link

unliks AJ who I really wish would die.

kate moss and heavy machinery in a dessert (Stevie D), Saturday, 16 January 2010 06:43 (eleven years ago) link

AJ is a cock obv but his character makes tons of sense-- naturally tony would have a weak, brat child-- meadow otoh... they should've just let her go

J0rdan S., Saturday, 16 January 2010 06:45 (eleven years ago) link

two months pass...

they have the entire series on sale in hmv for €80(±$105) and saturday is my birthday, should i just go for it.

plax (ico), Thursday, 8 April 2010 23:29 (eleven years ago) link

yes

nakhchivan, Thursday, 8 April 2010 23:41 (eleven years ago) link

figure if i go cold on it i can prolly sell it on for abt what i paid for it anyway (its marked down from €150)

plax (ico), Thursday, 8 April 2010 23:42 (eleven years ago) link

yes yes

goon with the wind (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 8 April 2010 23:55 (eleven years ago) link

that is totally a great deal

modern eunuch-like crooning (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 8 April 2010 23:56 (eleven years ago) link

I had a friend who recently declined to watch this series because she felt overly squeamish about any potential violence. I felt she was really missing out and would otherwise enjoy it... otoh I couldn't really argue that the violence in it could be ignored/overlooked.

modern eunuch-like crooning (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 9 April 2010 00:00 (eleven years ago) link

yeah i am not that attracted to the violence either

plax (ico), Friday, 9 April 2010 00:02 (eleven years ago) link

still, what i have seen of this seemed pretty good, but like i started watching for a little while around s4 i think so i mean i constantly didn't understand the backstory and it was p confusing iirc

plax (ico), Friday, 9 April 2010 00:03 (eleven years ago) link

the violence isn't constant and it isn't exploitatively or crassly done. In fact, it's very well done and thus unsettling - as violence should be.

modern eunuch-like crooning (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 9 April 2010 00:14 (eleven years ago) link

I'm surprised to hear that, plax. I think many of the episodes are prettty much self-contained, with only a reference or two to tie it into the ongoing storyline. As far as serialized shows go, there are plenty that are much much harder to jump into. Of course, I watched them all in order anyway, and that's just my take as a fan, so who really knows.

Jouster, Friday, 9 April 2010 01:55 (eleven years ago) link

long term parking is on right now -_-

༗ (J0rdan S.), Friday, 9 April 2010 18:38 (eleven years ago) link

quality episode

Shamandy Warhol (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 9 April 2010 18:40 (eleven years ago) link

Tony Newting his gf is so brutal

Shamandy Warhol (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 9 April 2010 18:40 (eleven years ago) link

yeah that scene is great -- altho for cable it gets kinda lol w/ all the edits

J0rdan S., Friday, 9 April 2010 18:41 (eleven years ago) link

bought this

plax (ico), Friday, 9 April 2010 19:56 (eleven years ago) link

there are a lot of things I could say right now that I am not gonna say

Shamandy Warhol (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 9 April 2010 20:04 (eleven years ago) link

i love u 4 that

plax (ico), Friday, 9 April 2010 20:05 (eleven years ago) link

What is "newting?"

Jouster, Friday, 9 April 2010 20:14 (eleven years ago) link

breaking up with/divorcing someone while they're in the hospital

Shamandy Warhol (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 9 April 2010 20:15 (eleven years ago) link

"He walked out in the spring of 1980.... By September, I went into the hospital for my third surgery. The two girls came to see me, and said, "Daddy is downstairs. Could he come up?" When he got there, he wanted to discuss the terms of the divorce while I was recovering from my surgery." - Jackie Gingrich, Newt Gingrich's first wife (who was suffering from cancer iirc)

Shamandy Warhol (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 9 April 2010 20:16 (eleven years ago) link

ok i am not reading this thread.... now.

plax (ico), Friday, 9 April 2010 20:17 (eleven years ago) link

haha sorry

Shamandy Warhol (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 9 April 2010 20:18 (eleven years ago) link

one month passes...

Nearing the end of Season 5. Tony has gotten so rotten and awful, I seriously hope he just dies at this point. AJ, too, has managed to become even worse; hope someone kills him too. I can't count the number of times I want to just jump through the screen and say the things that need to be said that clearly aren't; it's amazing how passive (re: bad) Tony and Carmela are when it comes to parenting. I wish there was more Gabriella Dante, and I wish Adrianna wasn't so pathetic all the time. She used to be so great!

limp bizkotti (Stevie D), Tuesday, 25 May 2010 03:40 (ten years ago) link

Also despite the fact that I'm 10 episodes into Season 5, I STILL have not recognized a single shooting location which makes me feel like a rly bad New Jerseyan. There was one episode that took place at Mason Gross (Rutgers' art school) but it was at some old building that I can't seem to locate.

limp bizkotti (Stevie D), Tuesday, 25 May 2010 03:41 (ten years ago) link

Also also I seriously have managed to make it this far without hearing abt the series finale. Please no one spoil it.

limp bizkotti (Stevie D), Tuesday, 25 May 2010 03:46 (ten years ago) link

lol

he's missing out on the actually hot tony-carm pool scene then

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 11 April 2019 18:24 (two years ago) link

two weeks pass...

had a long vacation and the weather's nice and I'm hesitating to finish S6. Maybe I'll just take it slowly.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Monday, 29 April 2019 20:03 (one year ago) link

My wife had never watched this before, so I'm going through it all for the first time since the original run ended. Things happen so much sooner than I remember, but I'm enjoying it so far. Totally blanked on the Favreau episode for some reason. Loved watching Christopher knock Swingers.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 29 April 2019 20:08 (one year ago) link

I haven't seen Swingers since it came out but I'm kind of guessing it hasn't aged well

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Monday, 29 April 2019 20:11 (one year ago) link

five months pass...

Still getting through 6 and taking the darkness in small doses. So good though.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 16:12 (one year ago) link

six months pass...

Michael Imperioli and Steve Schirippa are doing a podcast where they rewatch every episode...

https://pca.st/podcast/b6d9fa00-3a41-0138-9723-0acc26574db2

Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Tuesday, 21 April 2020 14:45 (eleven months ago) link

My favourite fact so far is Schirripa having to wear a fatsuit to play Bobby.

Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Tuesday, 21 April 2020 14:47 (eleven months ago) link

one month passes...

My first rewatch since I finally caught up with five years ago. Just finished Season 1. Like many other shows I've rewatched, the first time--because of advance word and heightened expectations--it took me a few episodes to warm up, but second time, immersed right from the start.

I've got to say that Carmela's send-off to Father Phil (probably Season 1's creepiest character) in the season finale is, word-for-word and gesture-for-gesture, brilliant. Killed me: "...I think a lot of it is tied up with food somehow."

clemenza, Wednesday, 10 June 2020 18:53 (ten months ago) link

If I group The Sopranos, Goodfellas, and the first two Godfathers together, I think the most terrifying guy of all might be Richie Aprile, even more than Pesci in Goodfellas. Couldn't believe when I first found out it was easy-going Tony from Mean Streets.

clemenza, Friday, 12 June 2020 00:04 (ten months ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTRUwnrsIJs

lag∞n, Friday, 12 June 2020 00:11 (ten months ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/ZQ2oARQ.jpg https://i.imgur.com/ZQ2oARQ.jpg

pplains, Friday, 12 June 2020 00:24 (ten months ago) link

One of those throwaway references that makes you happy to be old: Paulie greeting Furio as "chef of the future."

clemenza, Saturday, 13 June 2020 01:40 (ten months ago) link

Lol

Jeff Sunship (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 13 June 2020 01:43 (ten months ago) link

nothing will ever make me laugh higher than "how many MIGs you shoot down last week?"

Dig Dug the police (Neanderthal), Saturday, 13 June 2020 02:57 (ten months ago) link

"I remember my mother and my father arguing about something, I don't know...She kept talkin' about father's feeble-minded brother, but I always thought she meant you."

http://phildellio.tripod.com/sopranos.jpg

clemenza, Saturday, 13 June 2020 13:00 (ten months ago) link

lol

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 13 June 2020 16:01 (ten months ago) link

rude

lag∞n, Sunday, 14 June 2020 01:13 (ten months ago) link

Informal assessment based on the first two seasons: the very worst thing in the world a person can be is a Motherless Fuck.

clemenza, Tuesday, 16 June 2020 23:11 (ten months ago) link

Great moment from Season 3: Dr. Melfi's "No" at the end of the episode where she's raped--the long pause as she weighs the consequences of a "yes."

clemenza, Friday, 19 June 2020 18:47 (ten months ago) link

Season 3 has its own thread, mostly used for talking about Pine Barrens

Sopranos - Season 3

all cats are beautiful (silby), Friday, 19 June 2020 18:55 (ten months ago) link

two weeks pass...

Finished the rewatch a couple of nights ago.

Pretty great--even more so than the first time (five years ago). I'll stand by Mad Men as my favourite show ever, but the gap closed: Mad Men, The Sopranos, and then whatever I'd put next.

I could go on about so many incredible moments--one from the last season: the shot of Junior that closes the episode where his friend attacks him in the home (the actor that played his friend was great)--but I'll do what I usually do instead, dwell on a couple of things that missed the mark for me. It's a weird sort of compliment with me.

I didn't feel the Tony-Melfi relationship was resolved in a way that justified all the time that was spent on it. I loved Tony yelling "I get it!" at the end of the peyote episode, and then, a couple of episodes later, she ends it because she's miffed over some article. I didn't feel like it was consistent with her character; it felt like they wanted to finish that off somehow but didn't quite know how.

I don't think everything has to be wrapped up--I don't think that at all--but I did want Carmela to find out the truth about Ade and Christopher. I wanted that moment to happen. (I think Ade's story her last season was about as tragic and moving as television gets.)

A.J.--tough one. In the whole series run, through all his different phases, I don't know if I actually liked him for more than 30 minutes. Pretty nervy by the writers to follow that though to the end. Even with all that, I still felt empathy for him that last season.

The music was better than I remembered. The end of that one episode, where Carmela learns of Meadow's engagement, starts crying, looks out at Tony floating in the pool, and Bobby Darin's "If I Were a Carpenter" starts up, that was almost as good as "Both Sides Now" in Mad Men.

20/20 hindsight, but that first season, if you had to bet on one character to be preternaturally indestructible, Paulie would have been the guy.

clemenza, Tuesday, 7 July 2020 01:55 (nine months ago) link

A.J. is pure comedy

Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 02:10 (nine months ago) link

The writers openly mocked him at times, for sure. The bear episode--"Mommy, mommy!" Not sure what I wanted there...something more, somehow.

clemenza, Tuesday, 7 July 2020 02:20 (nine months ago) link

I always liked A.J. just for being helpless in the face of that upbringing, and I loved the way they leaned into it. That's really how shitheads are made!

Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 02:25 (nine months ago) link

I thought he was a great, and touching, portrait of a kid who had been raised to be a failure in his father's eyes - felt like it tapped into the hypocrisy of American values, that they valued toughness, indulged his every whim then condemned him for being soft and expecting things to fall into his lap. In many ways he is the real tragic figure of the series, much more so than Meadow who mouthed platitudes and virtue signalled, but when push came to shove was totally complicit in her privilege and where it came from.

assert (MatthewK), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 02:25 (nine months ago) link

Interesting points that I'll mull over...Agree that they lost Meadow's character towards the end; she became more and more conventional. (I found it moving, though, when she told A.J. that as Italians, he was always going to be the favoured child; her resignation there--and A.J. seemingly not knowing what to make of her words--was perfect.)

I bought a critical book on The Sopranos a few years ago, I ought to read that right now.

clemenza, Tuesday, 7 July 2020 02:34 (nine months ago) link

See I read that as Meadow tossing another chip on her pile of self-pity, ignoring her massive privilege and advantage. The family is full of people doing that, probably the most penetrating social criticism the show made.

assert (MatthewK), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 02:55 (nine months ago) link

and - duh - I forgot that the talisman of the final series is the "Ojibwe saying" pinned by the writers to Tony's hospital notice board, "Sometimes I go about in pity for myself, and all the while, a great wind carries me across the sky." It gets half a dozen callbacks from there to the end, as Tony misapplies it to people he wants to put down.

assert (MatthewK), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 05:00 (nine months ago) link

(I think Ade's story her last season was about as tragic and moving as television gets.)

agreed on this. we watched the series for the first time last year, and from the minute she started working as an informant you just feel, "Jeez, well, there's only one way this ends."

Pinche Cumbion Bien Loco (stevie), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 07:53 (nine months ago) link

The music was better than I remembered. The end of that one episode, where Carmela learns of Meadow's engagement, starts crying, looks out at Tony floating in the pool, and Bobby Darin's "If I Were a Carpenter" starts up, that was almost as good as "Both Sides Now" in Mad Men.

Christopher getting high at the fairground while Fred Neil's "Dolphins" plays is one of the most moving parts of the series, I think

Neil S, Tuesday, 7 July 2020 08:53 (nine months ago) link

The closing tracks were always spot on...John Cooper Clarke's "Evidently Chickentown" portending the forthcoming gang war during the christening scene, and Van Morrison's "Glad Tidings" hopping in after Tony Uncle Bobby guns down Tony Uncle Johnny, that jaunty bass line signaling a strange sense of relief/closure...also "This Magic Moment" when Bobby meets up with his family at the lake house, his life having irrevocably changed...

henry s, Tuesday, 7 July 2020 11:47 (nine months ago) link

"It Was A Very Good Year" opening Season 2 also an all-timer

Number None, Tuesday, 7 July 2020 13:51 (nine months ago) link

"Evidently Chickentown" for me was the show's greatest musical moment (didn't know it at all previously). "Dolphins" was great too. Other favourites: Cream's "I Feel Free," R.L. Burnside's "Shuck Dub," "White Rabbit," "If I Were a Carpenter," a few others.

clemenza, Tuesday, 7 July 2020 20:22 (nine months ago) link

Tindersticks' Tiny Tears will always be my favourite.

joni mitchell jarre (anagram), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 20:23 (nine months ago) link

not the subtlest needledrop but I always appreciated them cutting the Tindersticks what I assume was a pretty fat check for the prominent use of "Tiny Tears"

xp!

k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 20:24 (nine months ago) link

Love the live version of The Kinks' "I'm Not Like Everybody Else" at the end of "Cold Cuts." So connected to Tony's pathologies.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=haWOLGAHppc

... (Eazy), Wednesday, 8 July 2020 04:04 (nine months ago) link

"Living On A Thin Line" by the Kinks was prominently featured in one episode ("University", maybe?) Was played three times, which puts it up there with "Tiny Tears" in the Sopranos pantheon. Least-likely stripper song ever. Also, was surprised to hear "Wood Cabin" by Saint Etienne playing in the background when Jimmy the rat was whacked in Season One.

henry s, Wednesday, 8 July 2020 11:26 (nine months ago) link

(xpost) Yeah, "I'm Not Like Everybody Else" was great. Don't think I ever hated Tony as much as his pointless baiting/escalation at that dinner table.

I wasn't sure what I was hearing--it definitely sounded like Ray Davies, yet it didn't sound like a 1966 B-side (I don't think I actually have the song). I thought I might have been hearing a cover version from the last decade or so. A live version explains that.

clemenza, Wednesday, 8 July 2020 13:25 (nine months ago) link

I can remember getting excited hearing a Murk track in the Bada Bing once, although felt it was possibly unlikely to have actually been played in a real strip club? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrE2Iq39qJ0

Chewshabadoo, Wednesday, 8 July 2020 14:56 (nine months ago) link

eight months pass...

No, but Janice would be. https://t.co/RWQDQhq023

— Mark Harris (@MarkHarrisNYC) April 6, 2021

too cool for zen talk (Eazy), Tuesday, 6 April 2021 22:45 (two weeks ago) link

Definitely! Also Kevin Garvey Sr. from The Leftovers, Scott Glenn's character. Maybe Paul Kinsey from Mad Men, or Aidan Macallan from House of Cards--there's a whole list there.

clemenza, Tuesday, 6 April 2021 23:01 (two weeks ago) link

Kenneth from Mad Men imo

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 6 April 2021 23:06 (two weeks ago) link

Janice for suuuuuure tho

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 6 April 2021 23:06 (two weeks ago) link

paulie would definitely "have questions"

Clay, Tuesday, 6 April 2021 23:10 (two weeks ago) link

Except for his brief meltdown with those Chevy guys, I always thought Ken Cosgrove was pretty grounded, VG.

clemenza, Tuesday, 6 April 2021 23:14 (two weeks ago) link

idk he seemed like a kook to me lol

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 6 April 2021 23:16 (two weeks ago) link

What would ever give you that idea?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6nDsLx98SI

clemenza, Tuesday, 6 April 2021 23:18 (two weeks ago) link

AJ seems like safe bet

Western® with Bacon Flavor, Wednesday, 7 April 2021 00:16 (one week ago) link

AJ is going to be infamous for the rest of his life because he was goaded into entering the capitol and someone got a photo of him pooping on AOC's shoes

joygoat, Wednesday, 7 April 2021 00:54 (one week ago) link

Good morning! I investigated Furio's luxurious silk shirts on The Sopranos. Feast your senses: https://t.co/cCfJfIxnc6

— Gabriella Paiella (@GMPaiella) April 8, 2021

Includes a link to an Artnet story about the Furio actor discovering that he owns a $10 million painting.

too cool for zen talk (Eazy), Thursday, 8 April 2021 23:20 (one week ago) link


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