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I thought February would never get here but it's coming around. The Sopranos. Do you like it?

Tracer Hand, Saturday, 5 January 2002 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

The question could be off-putting because of the Sopranos' value as a kind of deluxe maple symbol of your ability to afford HBO. But whatever, I have a housemate, and we split it. The Sopranos is the main reason.

Tracer Hand, Saturday, 5 January 2002 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Let me say this. I don't have cable. I have a rather negative view of television in general. But on Thanksgiving afternoon, my roommates rented all of the Sopranos 2nd season from Blockbuster, and I honestly sat in one spot for close to SEVEN HOURS watching the ENTIRE SEASON BACK TO BACK. It's that fucking good. And...I wanted more.

Gage-o, Saturday, 5 January 2002 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

I liked it when I was getting HBO for free at my old apartment. I have no idea what it's like now.

Nicole, Saturday, 5 January 2002 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

It's uneven, but some episodes are very very good. I'm thinking in particular of the Buscemi-directed "Pine Barrens" episode from last season where Chris and Paulie get lost in the snow, and Tony and Annabelle Sciorra really have it out. The sound effects people outdid themselves on the various ways cell phones can break up. The scriptwriters outdid themselves by twisting Beckett and Tennessee Williams around each other like wysteria (connected only by the faulty cellphone). The actors outdid each other by breaking through their reserves of cool and actually showing their need.

Tracer Hand, Saturday, 5 January 2002 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Sopranos = Twin Peaks for the new Millenium.

JM, Sunday, 6 January 2002 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

compared to 'twin peaks' with respect to...?

I don't think a whole lot of 'the sopranos'.

richard john gillanders, Sunday, 6 January 2002 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Sopranos = Twin Peaks for the new Millenium.

You're getting The Sopranos confuzed with Six Feet Under!!!!!!!

Andy K., Sunday, 6 January 2002 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

five years pass...

Someone on the radio, a (here at least) famous rock journo, said of Sopranos:"GOOD RIDDANCE! They wanted Tony to be LIKEABLE! How crap is taht?" hahahahahah I never roffled so much since I saw him at a journo-wanko talk in Amsterdam about 7 years ago.

nathalie, Friday, 21 September 2007 10:00 (fourteen years ago) link

one year passes...

Today on Amazon.com's Deals page: Sopranos entire series for $149.99! I have actually been checking this page semi-daily for a month or so hoping to stumble across this set, since they have a lot of DVD deals.

skeletal lexing (Finefinemusic), Monday, 19 January 2009 22:12 (twelve years ago) link

three weeks pass...

i saw that :)

s1ocki, Tuesday, 10 February 2009 00:57 (twelve years ago) link

At one point, I had the idea to put every incidence of Bodie spitting between his teeth in a montage, but then realized I don't know shit about editing software and am too lazy to learn.

Magdalen Goobers (Oilyrags), Tuesday, 10 February 2009 01:28 (twelve years ago) link

s1ocki, Tuesday, 10 February 2009 02:12 (twelve years ago) link

s1ocki, Tuesday, 10 February 2009 02:14 (twelve years ago) link

and who could forget

l8b100m3r (latebloomer), Tuesday, 10 February 2009 02:16 (twelve years ago) link

http://www.boingboing.net/2009/02/09/every-swear-word-on.html

This is like the "The Story of Everest" of those compilation videos (or, if you prefer, sub "the rake gag" for "The Story of Everest").

Jouster, Tuesday, 10 February 2009 03:03 (twelve years ago) link

five months pass...

I don't know why exactly, but I think Phil Leotardo doesn't look as a convincing threatening badass villain. Maybe he lacks charisma. When Ralph or Johnny Sack or Richie is on the screen you could really feel their presences. Not so with Phil.

dan138zig (Durrr Durrr Durrrrrr), Sunday, 2 August 2009 11:18 (twelve years ago) link

five months pass...

Starting season 4. Notes on series so far: LOVE Adirana La Cerva, LOVE Artie Bucco (wish there was more of him), also wish there was more Ginny Sack.

Can't stand AJ at ALL. Kind of wish he'd just get killed off. Also frustrated with the whole "Meadow you're so spoiled, we give you everything" / "GOD mom leave me aLONE!!" runarounds, where nothing actually happens (she keeps getting spoiled and is a brat). Could do without her too.

kate moss and heavy machinery in a dessert (Stevie D), Tuesday, 12 January 2010 16:58 (eleven years ago) link

check the individual season threads

larry craig memorial gloryhole (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 12 January 2010 17:09 (eleven years ago) link

Also, Carm's hair got SO much more chic and beautiful between the end of S3 and the beginning of S4. I'm really liking the direction her style is taking.

kate moss and heavy machinery in a dessert (Stevie D), Tuesday, 12 January 2010 17:30 (eleven years ago) link

OMG @ S4E04, "The Weight". An entire episode of Ginny Sac!

kate moss and heavy machinery in a dessert (Stevie D), Saturday, 16 January 2010 06:25 (eleven years ago) link

ginny is great

J0rdan S., Saturday, 16 January 2010 06:28 (eleven years ago) link

unliks AJ who I really wish would die.

kate moss and heavy machinery in a dessert (Stevie D), Saturday, 16 January 2010 06:43 (eleven years ago) link

AJ is a cock obv but his character makes tons of sense-- naturally tony would have a weak, brat child-- meadow otoh... they should've just let her go

J0rdan S., Saturday, 16 January 2010 06:45 (eleven years ago) link

two months pass...

they have the entire series on sale in hmv for €80(±$105) and saturday is my birthday, should i just go for it.

plax (ico), Thursday, 8 April 2010 23:29 (eleven years ago) link

yes

nakhchivan, Thursday, 8 April 2010 23:41 (eleven years ago) link

figure if i go cold on it i can prolly sell it on for abt what i paid for it anyway (its marked down from €150)

plax (ico), Thursday, 8 April 2010 23:42 (eleven years ago) link

yes yes

goon with the wind (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 8 April 2010 23:55 (eleven years ago) link

that is totally a great deal

modern eunuch-like crooning (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 8 April 2010 23:56 (eleven years ago) link

I had a friend who recently declined to watch this series because she felt overly squeamish about any potential violence. I felt she was really missing out and would otherwise enjoy it... otoh I couldn't really argue that the violence in it could be ignored/overlooked.

modern eunuch-like crooning (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 9 April 2010 00:00 (eleven years ago) link

yeah i am not that attracted to the violence either

plax (ico), Friday, 9 April 2010 00:02 (eleven years ago) link

still, what i have seen of this seemed pretty good, but like i started watching for a little while around s4 i think so i mean i constantly didn't understand the backstory and it was p confusing iirc

plax (ico), Friday, 9 April 2010 00:03 (eleven years ago) link

the violence isn't constant and it isn't exploitatively or crassly done. In fact, it's very well done and thus unsettling - as violence should be.

modern eunuch-like crooning (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 9 April 2010 00:14 (eleven years ago) link

I'm surprised to hear that, plax. I think many of the episodes are prettty much self-contained, with only a reference or two to tie it into the ongoing storyline. As far as serialized shows go, there are plenty that are much much harder to jump into. Of course, I watched them all in order anyway, and that's just my take as a fan, so who really knows.

Jouster, Friday, 9 April 2010 01:55 (eleven years ago) link

long term parking is on right now -_-

༗ (J0rdan S.), Friday, 9 April 2010 18:38 (eleven years ago) link

quality episode

Shamandy Warhol (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 9 April 2010 18:40 (eleven years ago) link

Tony Newting his gf is so brutal

Shamandy Warhol (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 9 April 2010 18:40 (eleven years ago) link

yeah that scene is great -- altho for cable it gets kinda lol w/ all the edits

J0rdan S., Friday, 9 April 2010 18:41 (eleven years ago) link

bought this

plax (ico), Friday, 9 April 2010 19:56 (eleven years ago) link

there are a lot of things I could say right now that I am not gonna say

Shamandy Warhol (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 9 April 2010 20:04 (eleven years ago) link

i love u 4 that

plax (ico), Friday, 9 April 2010 20:05 (eleven years ago) link

What is "newting?"

Jouster, Friday, 9 April 2010 20:14 (eleven years ago) link

breaking up with/divorcing someone while they're in the hospital

Shamandy Warhol (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 9 April 2010 20:15 (eleven years ago) link

"He walked out in the spring of 1980.... By September, I went into the hospital for my third surgery. The two girls came to see me, and said, "Daddy is downstairs. Could he come up?" When he got there, he wanted to discuss the terms of the divorce while I was recovering from my surgery." - Jackie Gingrich, Newt Gingrich's first wife (who was suffering from cancer iirc)

Shamandy Warhol (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 9 April 2010 20:16 (eleven years ago) link

ok i am not reading this thread.... now.

plax (ico), Friday, 9 April 2010 20:17 (eleven years ago) link

haha sorry

Shamandy Warhol (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 9 April 2010 20:18 (eleven years ago) link

one month passes...

Nearing the end of Season 5. Tony has gotten so rotten and awful, I seriously hope he just dies at this point. AJ, too, has managed to become even worse; hope someone kills him too. I can't count the number of times I want to just jump through the screen and say the things that need to be said that clearly aren't; it's amazing how passive (re: bad) Tony and Carmela are when it comes to parenting. I wish there was more Gabriella Dante, and I wish Adrianna wasn't so pathetic all the time. She used to be so great!

limp bizkotti (Stevie D), Tuesday, 25 May 2010 03:40 (eleven years ago) link

Also despite the fact that I'm 10 episodes into Season 5, I STILL have not recognized a single shooting location which makes me feel like a rly bad New Jerseyan. There was one episode that took place at Mason Gross (Rutgers' art school) but it was at some old building that I can't seem to locate.

limp bizkotti (Stevie D), Tuesday, 25 May 2010 03:41 (eleven years ago) link

Also also I seriously have managed to make it this far without hearing abt the series finale. Please no one spoil it.

limp bizkotti (Stevie D), Tuesday, 25 May 2010 03:46 (eleven years ago) link

Loved him and his padded-shoulder white sportcoat.

... (Eazy), Friday, 8 October 2021 23:38 (two weeks ago) link

Probably my favourite season

《Myst1kOblivi0n》 (jim in vancouver), Friday, 8 October 2021 23:41 (two weeks ago) link

"M'boy are you fat"

calzino, Friday, 8 October 2021 23:42 (two weeks ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcIcNu-ahXQ

calzino, Friday, 8 October 2021 23:54 (two weeks ago) link

Why was Steve buscemi on this show. HBO contract I guess

David Chase was a big fan of Trees Lounge (a couple of cast members end up on The Sopranos too) and hired him to direct (Pine Barrens is his first episode) before adding him into the cast.

Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 9 October 2021 19:03 (two weeks ago) link

My favorite funny line from the show: 'It's an idea, I don't know. Who knows where it fucking came from? Isaac Newton invented gravity because some asshole hit him with an apple.'

Donald Fhtagen (Old Lunch), Saturday, 9 October 2021 21:15 (two weeks ago) link

Buscemi was great in the show!

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Sunday, 10 October 2021 00:56 (two weeks ago) link

sure was

lag∞n, Sunday, 10 October 2021 17:12 (two weeks ago) link

woke up this morning

When Young Sheldon began to rap (forksclovetofu), Monday, 11 October 2021 06:34 (two weeks ago) link

Feeling around for my shoes

Spiral Scratchiti (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 11 October 2021 15:27 (two weeks ago) link

I like the recurring S1 bit where Tony storms out of therapy session at least 1x per episode only to show up with his tail between his legs at his next appointment.

[to Dr. Melfi] “Last week I called you a whore...That might have been overstating the case a little bit.” -Tony

— The Sopranos Quotes (@thesopranosNJ) October 11, 2019

Hannibal Lecture (PBKR), Monday, 11 October 2021 16:12 (two weeks ago) link

Hate your mudder

Gardyloominati (Neanderthal), Monday, 11 October 2021 16:19 (two weeks ago) link

of course there was also the episode where he destroyed her furniture and almost physically assaulted her

Gardyloominati (Neanderthal), Monday, 11 October 2021 16:19 (two weeks ago) link

The Columbus Day episode >>>>>>>> Many Saints of Newark

Chris L, Monday, 11 October 2021 16:28 (two weeks ago) link

Maybe obvious, but the absolute funniest moment in all of Sopranos to me is Chrissy's monologue at Livia's wake, esp with his stoned affect

They say there's no two people on Earth exactly the same. No two faces. No two sets of fingerprints. But do they know that for sure? Because they would have to get everybody together in one huge space and obviously that’s not possible, even with computers. And not only that, they’d have to get all the people who've ever lived, not just the ones now. So they got no proof. They got nothing. Mrs. Soprano may have passed but who’s to say there isn’t another Mrs. Soprano just like her, or will be? Maybe not with the same fears and paranoia but the same.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Monday, 11 October 2021 16:40 (two weeks ago) link

FWIW in the Chapo ep on Many Saints of Newark, one of them (I think Felix?) had a good read on all the stupidity and malpropisms that it isn't just fun at the expense of the characters but shows how removed these guys are from normal society. But I also think it serves a function of demystifying the mafia, which is something the show tries to do a lot -- i.e. these are not brilliant supercriminals, they're hacks. "More of a glorified crew" if you will, except of course even the New York gang isn't too bright, just sharper by comparison.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Monday, 11 October 2021 16:45 (two weeks ago) link

they're often good tacticians (on the show at least) but they often don't know how the rest of the world works and they appear so fish out of water.

like Tony Soprano getting angry af about being charged a co-pay despite cancelling the session

Gardyloominati (Neanderthal), Monday, 11 October 2021 16:48 (two weeks ago) link

right, I think the show sees them largely as instinctual beings -- often with strong instincts -- but without much understanding of things beyond "their thing."

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Monday, 11 October 2021 16:56 (two weeks ago) link

all the stupidity and malpropisms that it isn't just fun at the expense of the characters

I don't think it's ever been about fun. The stupidity is just an example of how their venality corrupts them and everyone around them.

In other words, this is America, we're dumb as rocks and twice as evil/greedy, and if you aren't careful, we will drag you down to our level.

Hannibal Lecture (PBKR), Monday, 11 October 2021 17:00 (two weeks ago) link

It feels post-post-watergate to me. All the institutions are rotten to the core. Even the mob.

Hannibal Lecture (PBKR), Monday, 11 October 2021 17:01 (two weeks ago) link

they're basically the type of people that, when not doing their mob duties, are mass forwarding emails about DO NOT BUY GAS AT CITGO, ARABIAN TERRORISTS HAVE PUT NEEDLES UNDER THE PUMP to family members

Gardyloominati (Neanderthal), Monday, 11 October 2021 17:01 (two weeks ago) link

I had to look up the quote, but not knowing how the world works reminded me of this in Goodfellas: "And we were also very close. I mean, there were never any outsiders around. Absolutely never! And being together all the time made everything seem even more normal."

joygoat, Monday, 11 October 2021 17:19 (two weeks ago) link

“Even with computas “

calstars, Monday, 11 October 2021 19:17 (two weeks ago) link

Buscemi was good, maybe even great, in R dogs, but no way does he belong in this show

calstars, Tuesday, 12 October 2021 02:30 (one week ago) link

I did not like the Buscemi subplot. Generally felt like the "here come the guys who got out of jail" stuff was ill-conceived and underrealized.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Tuesday, 12 October 2021 02:58 (one week ago) link

Wow, I thought it was really good, Tony S having to break from his past all over again, digging into his insecurities, Tony B so out of sync with current reality, almost naively so. And the resolution genuinely shocked me. Really one of the great arcs of the show for my money.

assert (matttkkkk), Tuesday, 12 October 2021 05:08 (one week ago) link

And knowing Tony B couldn’t keep living a straight life, would have to break sometime, but was working so hard with his flash cards to get his massage license.

... (Eazy), Tuesday, 12 October 2021 06:13 (one week ago) link

I don't think it's necessarily true that Tony is stupid- in some ways he's the sharpest character in the whole show. He's a good businessman (even those his business is rent-seeking and extortion backed up by violence), he's an effective politician, and to some extent he understands "how things work" and how he has come to be what he is- from one perspective the whole show is about him trying to better understand himself and break free from the life, though obviously he never fully achieves that. As for the other main characters, his crew are arguably dumb but know how to play the game even if some of them (all of them?) ultimately lose. And the women characters, including Livia, by and large have better self-knowledge than any of the men, even if they too make bad decisions and are both victims of circumstance and active participants in The Family.

Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Tuesday, 12 October 2021 08:34 (one week ago) link

but yeah I take the point that another theme is the general coarsening and degradation of American life under late capitalism, and that the characters are products of those processes

Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Tuesday, 12 October 2021 08:35 (one week ago) link

My favorite malapropism is when when of the old bosses finds out Tony is seeing a shrink and reassures him 'There's no stigmata about that type of thing these days.'

Sam Weller, Tuesday, 12 October 2021 09:05 (one week ago) link

ooooohhh, I'm looking forward to that one.

Hannibal Lecture (PBKR), Tuesday, 12 October 2021 11:53 (one week ago) link

Shit I forgot all about AJ’s transformation into shaved eyebrow gothy Robert smith jr

calstars, Wednesday, 13 October 2021 18:17 (one week ago) link

Stoned Chrissie is magical

Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 13 October 2021 18:27 (one week ago) link

Chrissie intahvention scene so good

calstars, Wednesday, 13 October 2021 18:43 (one week ago) link

I think my malaprop of choice in the “blink and you miss it” category is Toni informing Melfi she should get different waiting room art, maybe something by “Goyim”

When Young Sheldon began to rap (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 13 October 2021 20:27 (one week ago) link

did not like 'many saints', it skews like 80/20 too much fan service imo; hard to imagine chase is truly satisfied w this, my guess is he agreed to this cuz he couldn't otherwise get whatever other non-sopranos script he has made ? or hes just checked out & needed $ but that wasnt the sense i got from his interviews

johnny crunch, Monday, 18 October 2021 13:00 (one week ago) link

I'd figure it is the same with any series you try to turn something episodic into a single feature, you lose something. I'd imagine a 8-10 hour show expanded out where you could explore the fictional world and characters a bit more beyond the main plot would perhaps worked better.

earlnash, Monday, 18 October 2021 14:25 (one week ago) link

watched like 3 quarters of it, pretty bad, very stilted, some of the period stuff was cool

lag∞n, Monday, 18 October 2021 16:06 (one week ago) link

David Chase retire bitch

《Myst1kOblivi0n》 (jim in vancouver), Monday, 18 October 2021 17:32 (one week ago) link

middle of the fifth season now and this feels like the weakest part of the series so far.

When Young Sheldon began to rap (forksclovetofu), Monday, 18 October 2021 17:50 (one week ago) link

Many Saints of Newark: the fan service that the fans hate

Wanted to be positive going in, what a p.o.s.

Shit looked so weird, CG backgrounds and and shit like a Marvel mob movie

Ray Liotta got to turn in two shitty performances in one movie that's something

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 19 October 2021 02:29 (six days ago) link

I saw the first 30-40 minutes and every line of dialogue from the black characters was some kind of signifier of being black in the late 60s, gave the actors almost nothing to work with.

JoeStork, Tuesday, 19 October 2021 02:56 (six days ago) link

David Chase retire bitch

Jeez, he wasn’t even in a healthy place to direct this. Shitty thing to say.

... (Eazy), Tuesday, 19 October 2021 08:54 (six days ago) link

The recent article in Vulture is grebt.

Double Chocula (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 19 October 2021 15:07 (six days ago) link

About Gandolfini, except from an upcoming book about HBO called Tinderbox.

Double Chocula (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 19 October 2021 15:28 (six days ago) link

Many Saints of Newark: the fan service that the fans hate

Wanted to be positive going in, what a p.o.s.

Shit looked so weird, CG backgrounds and and shit like a Marvel mob movie

Ray Liotta got to turn in two shitty performances in one movie that's something

― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, October 18, 2021 7:29 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

OTM

《Myst1kOblivi0n》 (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 19 October 2021 16:56 (six days ago) link

Liotta's boss in the first 15 minutes was embarrassing, especially when he started howling at his own joke. I thought his incarcerated, snobby-jazz-fan, quasi-twin brother was an okay performance; at least it was quiet.

clemenza, Tuesday, 19 October 2021 22:32 (six days ago) link

I got strong Simpsons “white people drive like this” joke vibes from the scene at the body shop where everyone shooting dice and listening to James Brown and Dickie drives away listening to Tony Orlando and Dawn

joygoat, Tuesday, 19 October 2021 23:52 (six days ago) link

Liotta as the dad was terrible but as his twin in jail I thought he wasnt bad.

What was the point of the black gang side plot apart from "there were race riots in Jersy in this year so lets put it there for some context"?

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Wednesday, 20 October 2021 01:17 (five days ago) link

I mean don't get me wrong, I appreciate that stuff was given a voice when it wasnt in the Sopranos but it felt really shoehorned in.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Wednesday, 20 October 2021 01:17 (five days ago) link


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