romantics are creepy!!

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no not the band, the people.

conch shell, Wednesday, 16 November 2005 04:43 (sixteen years ago) link

"my heart, you carried it like air / although it weighs a thousand worlds / how i admired you, my love / then you dropped it, now it's bollocksed / and bitter tears feel moonless pools" et fucking cetera SHUT UP

conch shell, Wednesday, 16 November 2005 04:43 (sixteen years ago) link

romantics think like teddy bears!! like little tragic poopybears that need a good elbowing to the head. what is wrong who built them wrong >:(

conch shell, Wednesday, 16 November 2005 04:44 (sixteen years ago) link

Is it school holidays somewhere at the moment or what?

Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 05:02 (sixteen years ago) link

Percy Bysshe Shelley?

not sure about pickles (Jacqui Pickles), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 05:31 (sixteen years ago) link

LOOK UPON MY WORKS YE MIGHTY AND DESPAIR

Jonnymandias (trayce), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 05:52 (sixteen years ago) link

Romantics are highly creepy. Especially men who woo with flowers and fine dining etc.

moley (moley), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 06:00 (sixteen years ago) link

By: Be quiet, sir. Can't you see we're dying?

M: Don't you worry about my poets, Mr. Blackadder. They're not dead, they're just being *intellectual*.

E: Mrs. Miggins, there's nothing intellectual wandering around Italy in a big shirt, trying to get laid.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 06:03 (sixteen years ago) link

schmaltzies are creepier.

A Nairn (moretap), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 06:41 (sixteen years ago) link

Let's grab some takeout from Dean and Deluca
A hearty gulping wine
You be the showgirl and I'll be Sinatra
Way back in '59
Sweetness in heels - look at you - in long black gloves
Come to old blue eyes tell me - who do you love

(CHORUS:)
Who makes the traffic interesting
Rescues a dreary Sunday
Who makes me feel like painting again
Honey it's you - Janie Runaway

Abbadabba Berman (Hurting), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 07:24 (sixteen years ago) link

Hahahah Ned :D

Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 07:50 (sixteen years ago) link

A boy invited my friend Ellen round to his house last week, as a 'friend', and he'd lit loads of candles and had Barry White playing. She ran away.

chap who would dare to tell uninteresting celeb spotting stories (chap), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 20:39 (sixteen years ago) link

http://www.thisisromo.com/romo/orlando/opic9.jpg

KSTFUNS (Ex Leon), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 20:41 (sixteen years ago) link

Creepsville.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 22:49 (sixteen years ago) link

he'd lit loads of candles and had Barry White playing

Even had it been more of a 'date' than inviting a frined over kind of deal, am I the only one who thinks that this wasn't so much 'romantic' as totally lacking in originality?

M. White (Miguelito), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 23:43 (sixteen years ago) link


the things i tend to find romantic are creepy, and vice versa. i think this is why i dont date, really...

JD from CDepot, Thursday, 17 November 2005 00:20 (sixteen years ago) link

Even had it been more of a 'date' than inviting a frined over kind of deal, am I the only one who thinks that this wasn't so much 'romantic' as totally lacking in originality?

Oh, totally, its like he'd learned how to chat up girls out of a book. He obviously thought it would be romantic, though.

chap who would dare to tell uninteresting celeb spotting stories (chap), Thursday, 17 November 2005 00:59 (sixteen years ago) link

He was probably just doing what he thought was romantic from various TV shows e.t.c.

Don't blame the guy blame his sources.

Hairy Asshurt (Toaster), Thursday, 17 November 2005 10:13 (sixteen years ago) link

Hmm, I still think he's a weirdo.

chap who would dare to tell uninteresting celeb spotting stories (chap), Thursday, 17 November 2005 16:58 (sixteen years ago) link

one month passes...
Shy Romeo's love letter leads to £200 fine

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 21 December 2005 14:12 (sixteen years ago) link

Well, it was kinda creepy.

But it also displays the typical girly reaction; "I don't fancy you, so you have no right to find me attractive."

Stone Monkey (Stone Monkey), Wednesday, 21 December 2005 14:44 (sixteen years ago) link

Shouldn't this be posted on the "Random Person, I Love You" thread, really?

Also...

http://images.scotsman.com/puffs/home/2005/12/haggisp.jpg

???!?!?!??!?!?

The Hills Are Alive With Celibate Cries (kate), Wednesday, 21 December 2005 14:46 (sixteen years ago) link

weird -- i mean, he crossed the weirdness line, but a court case?

Theorry Henry (Enrique), Wednesday, 21 December 2005 14:48 (sixteen years ago) link

Coy, unwilling, silent bride, mourning in thy robe of pride, desolation deified

Mädchen (Madchen), Wednesday, 21 December 2005 14:51 (sixteen years ago) link

I'm sorry, but is no one else more disturbed by the duck-billed haggis-ypus than by the random stalker?

The Hills Are Alive With Celibate Cries (kate), Wednesday, 21 December 2005 14:51 (sixteen years ago) link

It looks yummy. I want one on toast now.

Stone Monkey (Stone Monkey), Wednesday, 21 December 2005 15:00 (sixteen years ago) link

yes I almost revived the "say something Vs. not say something" thread with that... our breach of the peace law is so flexible

cozen (Cozen), Wednesday, 21 December 2005 15:04 (sixteen years ago) link

...so I should take this as a notice that I shouldn't crush on any hott Glaswegian boys because it will all end in court, instead of just tears?

The Hills Are Alive With Celibate Cries (kate), Wednesday, 21 December 2005 15:06 (sixteen years ago) link

our breach of the peace law is so flexible

Would it cover recreational drugging?

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 21 December 2005 15:09 (sixteen years ago) link

I told you about the guy who was wearing dark glasses in the queue for the post office, got to the front of the queue and went back to the back; he did this a couple of times and the police were rung; he was arrested and convicted of a breach of the peace.

cozen (Cozen), Wednesday, 21 December 2005 15:13 (sixteen years ago) link

http://image.www.rakuten.co.jp/essense/img1025963614.jpeg

Theorry Henry (Enrique), Wednesday, 21 December 2005 15:17 (sixteen years ago) link

The letter was kind of creepy, but not enough to take someone to court over! How silly.

Lars and Jagger (Ex Leon), Wednesday, 21 December 2005 16:00 (sixteen years ago) link

"It would have been very distressing for her to discover that she had been followed and that her personal details and home address had been discovered by a perfect stranger, whatever your motivation."

ie it wasn't the letter that was illegal, it was waiting for someone outside their work and then secretly following them home.

also she didn't "take him to court", she informed the sherriff that she had been followed home and the sherriff cited the guy w/ a fine.

vahid (vahid), Wednesday, 21 December 2005 16:23 (sixteen years ago) link

If someone followed me home from work and put a letter through my door I would probably freak out a bit too. I doubt I would call the police.

A couple of times recently, I was in an internet cafe late at night, on messenger, and someone added me to their contact list. And when I said "Who are you?" they said "I saw you in the internet cafe, I think you're beautiful" or some such creepy nonsense. I didn't like thinking that they must have come up right behind me in order to be able to read my username. Unless they had binoculars. I don't know which possibility unnerves me more.

But it also displays the typical girly reaction; "I don't fancy you, so you have no right to find me attractive."

No, it's "I don't know you, so you have no right to follow me and put letters through my door".

The tone of the article kind of suggests it is crazy for the girl to be anything but flattered. I don't really see what is flattering about someone who hasn't even met you being fixated on you. It is scary.

Cathy (Cathy), Wednesday, 21 December 2005 19:29 (sixteen years ago) link

we don't really know what's in the note. what if it said "I WANT 2 RUB UR FUN BITS"??!?

yuengling participle (rotten03), Wednesday, 21 December 2005 19:38 (sixteen years ago) link

I guess that would make it OK, yeah.

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 21 December 2005 19:43 (sixteen years ago) link

At least it's jaunty.

Lars and Jagger (Ex Leon), Wednesday, 21 December 2005 19:45 (sixteen years ago) link

People put up handwritten personal ads here, in Leon, on lampposts and walls and on public telephones. They say things like "I am a 27 year old boy looking for a nice girl to go to the cinema with and love", all misspelled, with their phone number on little bits at the bottom that you can rip off. I saw one once that said "67 year old widow, very lonely, seeks someone to share nights and days with". I find them way more creepyfor not mentioning sex. I wonder if there are people out there looking for love, on a lamppost. Sometimes people have ripped off a couple of the phone numbers.

Cathy (Cathy), Wednesday, 21 December 2005 19:58 (sixteen years ago) link

Sounds a little bit like lonely comma toronto man.

Lars and Jagger (Ex Leon), Wednesday, 21 December 2005 19:58 (sixteen years ago) link

Kate, the haggisypus is part of a competition, they pop up on the Scotsman's webcams and stuff from time to time and if you spot one and email to the Scotsman you get entered into a prize draw to win stuff (so says the woman married to a competition fiend who used to bookmark the page and check it from time to time in case there was a haggis on it - I think we might even have won something as a result, but I can't remember, we used to win loads of shit round about that time).

Back on topic, I think putting a note through someone's door is a lot less scary and a bit more respectful than some things a truly creepy and obsessed man could have done to her. Though I guess it depends on the content of the note. But if it was politely asking for a date, then he may well have thought it was less embarrassing all round than chatting her up at work, approaching her in the street etc.

I know this terribly gender-traitorous of me, so I'll stop short of wondering how much different this would have been *had* he actually been attractive to her.

ailsa (ailsa), Wednesday, 21 December 2005 21:03 (sixteen years ago) link

is not one else noticing that he was already cited for doing similar in a previous incident, a month earlier, towards the same girl?

Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Wednesday, 21 December 2005 21:11 (sixteen years ago) link

Going to the bank and writing a letter doesn't really constitute breach of the peace, does it? (I mean, he wasn't found guilty of it, but how could someone even consider that to be breaching the peace? Cozen? Some other Scots Law expert?)

ailsa (ailsa), Wednesday, 21 December 2005 21:13 (sixteen years ago) link

Scots like it v peaceful obviously.

I'm not saying the prior incident constitutes breaking the law but certainly explains the girl ringing the cops when same guy shows up AGAIN, this time at her house.

Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Wednesday, 21 December 2005 21:15 (sixteen years ago) link

"Officer, please help, a man has posted a letter through my door...no, he didn't say anything, or come in, or threaten me...no, the letter wasn't threatening, it was just asking me out on a date...no, but really, once he came into a bank during opening hours and stood around for a bit. He's a menace to society! Hang him!"

Dear fucking God. People today, waste of taxpayers money, blah blah *goes off to read the Daily Mail*

ailsa (ailsa), Wednesday, 21 December 2005 21:21 (sixteen years ago) link

You've got to be kidding me.

I'm not saying the guy deserves to have to pay 200 quid but for fuck's sake, the guy loitered at her work and left her a "love letter" and got in trouble for it (I'm assuming just for loitering in the bank, security guards get antsy), and then less than a month later stayed around all day and followed her home, and somehow she's the object of ridicule here and a completely unreasonable person?

Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Wednesday, 21 December 2005 21:25 (sixteen years ago) link

Speaking as someone who almost got run off of campus for ridiculing a Take Back The Night rally ("Exactly when did you ladies have control of the night? Are you sure you've got the right title there?"), I've got to say that there wasn't anything about this story that made me think that the authorities were overreacting OR underreacting.

Dude did something stupid. Dude got fined for it. Dude is obviously still pining but isn't going to shell out another 200 pounds. FIN (cue dalmation puppy on a unicycle)

Dan (False Controversy) Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 21 December 2005 21:29 (sixteen years ago) link

Would I have called the cops? No, I wouldn't have. Would I have had someone go beat the shit out of the guy and been completely weirded out? Yes, I would have. TS: getting arrested versus getting a beating!

xpost Dan is OTM! Also I wonder how the dude's gf of SEVEN YEARS feels! WTF!

Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Wednesday, 21 December 2005 21:30 (sixteen years ago) link

Dude isn't pining, dude got back with his old girlfriend.

I'm just playing devil's advocate to everyone that thinks this dude is a creep. He's a bit of a div with a rubbish way with the ladies, yes, but he's hardly a danger to society.

ailsa (ailsa), Wednesday, 21 December 2005 21:33 (sixteen years ago) link

I'm totally with Ally.

Besides, if a guy is deluded enough to think a girl will respond favourably to a letter through her door left by a guy who saw her at work and followed her home, he is obviously a little unhinged from reality. How could she be sure he was harmless?

Cathy (Cathy), Wednesday, 21 December 2005 21:37 (sixteen years ago) link

A bad sign is that he says "I don't really think I did anything wrong, but it was my fault it happened, and I had to plead guilty really for her sake."

Despite his lawyer saying he knows that he did something stupid. It sounds like he's still kind of obsessed and thinks his pleading guilty will impress the girl.

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 21 December 2005 21:41 (sixteen years ago) link

Alba's quote is my main evidence for the "Dude is obviously still pining" statement.

Dan (For Her Sake? Come On Now) Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 21 December 2005 21:44 (sixteen years ago) link

Would I have had someone go beat the shit out of the guy [...] Yes

And lo, Ally turns out to be more frightening than anyone else mentioned so far in this thread...

JimD (JimD), Thursday, 22 December 2005 15:21 (sixteen years ago) link

this SHOULD have been about the band. wtf.

u saved me (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 22 December 2005 15:22 (sixteen years ago) link

I do not condone this behaviour

xx-post

cozen (Cozen), Thursday, 22 December 2005 15:34 (sixteen years ago) link

he's probably totally harmless, yeah, but OTOH for every actually totally harmless creepo there's a seemingly totally harmless creepo who actually does go nuts so there you go! Like I said, I wouldn't have personally called the cops at that point but I could understand why a person would get very upset by that behavior and ring the cops.

Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Thursday, 22 December 2005 15:38 (sixteen years ago) link

And lo, Ally turns out to be more frightening than anyone else mentioned so far in this thread...

Are you new?

Dan (Ally Is The Original ILX Gangsta Boo) Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 22 December 2005 16:01 (sixteen years ago) link

haha

JimD (JimD), Thursday, 22 December 2005 16:06 (sixteen years ago) link

It's a hard knock life, people.

Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Thursday, 22 December 2005 16:11 (sixteen years ago) link

Women who get stalked in the U.S. get shit protection. The perp has to actually attack the woman in order for the cops to get serious.

Je4nn3 ƒur¥ (Je4nne Fury), Thursday, 22 December 2005 16:22 (sixteen years ago) link

Ally OTM, and you know what? He should know better. If his motivations are so doggone PURE (and he's not just a kerrrazy stalker), he ought to be aware that women do, to some degree, stay on their guard all the damn time so don't give them any more fucking nonsense to worry about. It brings to mind men of my acquaintance who have said, "but it's okay if I whistle at girls! I'm not dangerous/creepy/disrespectful!". Le sigh of LONGSUFFERING FURY. THEY don't know that, you short-sighted priviliged idiot, nor should they have to concern themselves for TWO SECONDS about whether you are or aren't a threat. If a woman even has to ask herself that question, you're doing something wrong.

Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 22 December 2005 16:59 (sixteen years ago) link

Without condoning private vigilantism, I sympathise with the lady but I also think it's sad that the dude's so unable to read the woman that he thought this might lead to something.

M. White (Miguelito), Thursday, 22 December 2005 17:08 (sixteen years ago) link

The Christmas tree farm where we buy our tree every year was started up by a couple in tribute to their daughter, who was shot dead by her "boyfriend" in the middle of church one Sunday, a day after she tried to break up with him. They channel most everything after operating expenses to a foundation in her name, which gives mainly to women's shelters I believe. Every time I hear or read about romantic obsession I think about this girl. Creepy doesn't begin to cover it.

I do feel guilty for getting any perverse amusement out of it (Rock Hardy), Thursday, 22 December 2005 17:26 (sixteen years ago) link

x-posts

to briefly address your question ailsa: the scots law of breach of the peace is so flexible as to be able to be put towards any action which can be deemed to be disturbing to a member or members of the public; it's really a catch-all crime (it's because of this almost indeterminate nature of the crime that it's been taken to task quite a lot, from what I remember, in strasbourg). here's the definition from a quick scout around the internet (reads like macdonald to me but there's no citation) (found on an activists webpage no less):

conduct "genuinely alarming and disturbing, in its context, to any reasonable person ... it is clear that something substantially greater than mere irritation is involved"

so yeah - another one of our problematic criminal laws folx!!

cozen (Cozen), Thursday, 22 December 2005 18:30 (sixteen years ago) link

tomorrow on 'cozen teaches the law of scotland' we'll deal with the (in)coherence of scots criminal law, specifically in relation to the collapsing of mens rea into the actus reus of murder by the epochal case of HMA Vs. drury

cozen (Cozen), Thursday, 22 December 2005 18:32 (sixteen years ago) link

flexin ma mussels!!!

cozen (Cozen), Thursday, 22 December 2005 18:33 (sixteen years ago) link

the scots law of breach of the peace is so flexible as to be able to be put towards any action which can be deemed to be disturbing to a member or members of the public; it's really a catch-all crime (it's because of this almost indeterminate nature of the crime that it's been taken to task quite a lot, from what I remember, in strasbourg). here's the definition from a quick scout around the internet (reads like macdonald to me but there's no citation) (found on an activists webpage no less):

conduct "genuinely alarming and disturbing, in its context, to any reasonable person ... it is clear that something substantially greater than mere irritation is involved"

So you could be fined for eating an ice cream cone, alone, out on the street?

Lars and Jagger (Ex Leon), Thursday, 22 December 2005 18:50 (sixteen years ago) link

oh god

cozen (Cozen), Thursday, 22 December 2005 18:54 (sixteen years ago) link

rumpie to thread

mark p (Mark P), Thursday, 22 December 2005 18:56 (sixteen years ago) link

roffles

Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Thursday, 22 December 2005 19:31 (sixteen years ago) link

i was at mcdonald's the other day and quite fancied this girl, so i looked at her name badge and worked out what her name was.. it was kind of creepy actually wasn't it?

ken c (ken c), Friday, 23 December 2005 09:55 (sixteen years ago) link

i don't think that's creepy.

Theorry Henry (Enrique), Friday, 23 December 2005 10:01 (sixteen years ago) link

only if you're posting this from her computer now

gear (gear), Friday, 23 December 2005 10:02 (sixteen years ago) link

I think I committed a breach of the peace on the train this morning listening to vitalic at top volume through my portapros

cozen (Cozen), Friday, 23 December 2005 10:04 (sixteen years ago) link

if ken googled her, would that be creepy?

Theorry Henry (Enrique), Friday, 23 December 2005 10:05 (sixteen years ago) link

i think it's a fine law we could do with here. peace-wise, there are few 'reasonable people' in london, hence people breach the fuck out of it.

Theorry Henry (Enrique), Friday, 23 December 2005 10:06 (sixteen years ago) link

I've always find it weird to call people who believe in love on first sight as "romantics". If you fancy someone merely based on her appearance, isn't that rather shallow, and therefore the opposite of romantic? I consider myself a romantic, but I'd never fall for someone without even talking to her to first.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Friday, 23 December 2005 10:15 (sixteen years ago) link

if you fancy someone enough, you'll find ways of liking them, maybe. i don't know, it's complicated, appearances tell you quite a lot, really. but i don't think you have to oppose 'romantic' to 'shallow'.

Theorry Henry (Enrique), Friday, 23 December 2005 10:18 (sixteen years ago) link

I committed a breach of the peace on the train to Weybridge with a copy of the Sunday Sport.

(when I was 13)

Markelby (Mark C), Friday, 23 December 2005 10:52 (sixteen years ago) link

...

Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Friday, 23 December 2005 15:30 (sixteen years ago) link

a breach of his zipper

u saved me (dubplatestyle), Friday, 23 December 2005 15:31 (sixteen years ago) link

sixteen years pass...

“your husband’s a lucky man”

i actually heard this in an airport bar

Tracer Hand, Friday, 5 August 2022 08:53 (one week ago) link


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