MP3 Girls II (The Haircut Indie Remix)

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i wouldn't let it lie.

yesterday on the 134 i had the noisest girls ever. they started off acappella: 'my neck/my back/my pussy and my crack' -- that kind of thing.

but as we approached kentish town, something rather magical happened: they moved on to kaiser chiefs and the killers, as kind of mooted on the other thread. it *does* happen.

they were pretty minimal in terms of mp3 backing, but they were loud as hell.

― Theorry Henry (Enrique), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 07:21 (twenty years ago)

did you know which stop they got off? i want them

― ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 07:31 (twenty years ago)

after the boogaloo.

― Theorry Henry (Enrique), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 07:33 (twenty years ago)

aw. i used to live round there. i wonder if i'll meet them at the boogaloo pub quiz.

― ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 08:41 (twenty years ago)

although if it's killers and kaiser they love then probably not? (haven't been to that quiz for years)

― ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 08:41 (twenty years ago)

they were a bit too young for that, maybe. i hate the boogaloo. these days it always has a fucking velvet rope thingy outside.

― Theorry Henry (Enrique), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 08:43 (twenty years ago)

Why don't boys sing?

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 09:10 (twenty years ago)

ten months pass...

what happens if you say STFU:

http://society.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,,1876058,00.html

― EARLY-90S MAN (Enrique), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 14:10 (nineteen years ago)

Why don't boys sing?

Unanswered. I've heard some boys rap on the bus, but never the group singing. Be grateful for small mercies I guess.

I want to hear more confrontation stories, tho they all tend to go the same way (defiance, unawareness of any wrong-doing, failure to comprehend concept of consideration for others privacy). because if someone was actually willing to turn the music down/off/confine it to earphones like a normal person, they wouldn't think to play it out loud in the first place.

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 14:42 (nineteen years ago)

I've heard some boys rap on the bus

GOT ON TEH BUS WITH ME DAYSAVER
SMOKE TEH REEFER IN TEH CORNER

― it's teh_kit! (g-kit), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 14:47 (nineteen years ago)

that article is hilarious. one person asking a group of people to stop what they're doing, AND accuse them of being selfish!!!! lols!!!!

― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 14:52 (nineteen years ago)

This thread makes the baby The Lex cry.

― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 14:53 (nineteen years ago)

erm, read again.

xpost

― EARLY-90S MAN (Enrique), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 14:53 (nineteen years ago)

MP3 Girls I was locked or deleted, can't remember why but MAY have involved lex and DID involve MC.

― EARLY-90S MAN (Enrique), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 14:55 (nineteen years ago)

i just read again and now found the idea of public space being somewhere where you are on your own undisturbed even more hilarious.

― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 14:56 (nineteen years ago)

This is like the 10th thread I've read about teenagers singing/rapping on buses in the UK. I guess I don't encounter bands of teenagers all THAT often on public transportation, but when I do, there's just general ruckus, no singing. I don't know if this is a UK/US difference, or if it's just me.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 14:57 (nineteen years ago)

ken you are being wilfully douchey.

the kids can fackin shut it.

― EARLY-90S MAN (Enrique), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 14:58 (nineteen years ago)

public space =! a space to do whatever the fuck you want and fuck everyone else

― EARLY-90S MAN (Enrique), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 14:59 (nineteen years ago)

nor is it a space for everyone else do do whatever the fuck you want

― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 15:04 (nineteen years ago)

have you ever watched the bus uncle video?

― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 15:04 (nineteen years ago)

ken it wasn't just one person complaining - others disapproved of their 'privacy' being invaded in that way.

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 15:08 (nineteen years ago)

it did seem rude of the girls from that article to not have turned their music down a bit though, but then i have no idea from this guy's writing what kind of manner this had been asked.

instead of the first class and accusation of racism the girls should have suggested the quiet cars, which are there for a reason

― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 15:09 (nineteen years ago)

i read that bit steve, i just wondered who were these others who were also disapproving, was it all the others? a few others?

i like the little debate they had after the girls had left the train too! that was kind of cool.

― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 15:11 (nineteen years ago)

(and i hope it was a quiet debate!)

― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 15:12 (nineteen years ago)

the real problem re outlawing this kind of thing is that often it's actually more tolerable than the kind of conversations you hear sometimes being carried out on public transport, by people speaking so loudly they're obv. desperate for the attention from complete strangers whilst trying to impress their friends at the same time, often by being as vulgar as possible (heard some sexist, homophobic and racist stuff on buses recently - made all the worse by the volume at which it's spouted out). compared to that a shitty quality mp3 of Keyshia Cole doesn't so bad after all.

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 15:13 (nineteen years ago)

That reminds me, this young couple (as in teenage) got on a bus I was on recently, they had a baby in a pram. The girl went and sat in a seat on her own, put her headphones on and started listening to music. The guy was stuck with the baby and when the baby started crying, he started playing it some hip hop to calm it down and, even better, started singing along to it and it literally was, "I'm gonna bust a cap on that muthafuckin' bitch's ass" stuff!

― Am I Re-elected Yet? (Dada), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 15:13 (nineteen years ago)

that's what i meant steve just before your post!

― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 15:15 (nineteen years ago)

xpost did it work??

― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 15:16 (nineteen years ago)

but a debate on a bus/train about who has the right do do what on public transport would be more enjoyable/interesting than having to listen to poor quality phone music you didn't have a choice over.

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 15:16 (nineteen years ago)

Is it very common for girls to groupsing on the bus?!

― RoxyMuzak© (roxymuzak), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 15:16 (nineteen years ago)

Not really! (xxpost). I must admit, altho people tell me it happens all the time, I hardly ever encounter people playing music out loud on the bus. Girls group singing on a bus is not a new phenomenon.

― Am I Re-elected Yet? (Dada), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 15:17 (nineteen years ago)

As common as chewing. (xpost)

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 15:18 (nineteen years ago)

Last friday I was going back from the pub, sitting next to me were a girl and her boyfriend and there was a burly, rugby-lad type in the next carriage. After a couple of stops the rugby guy vomited noisily all over the floor of the carriage, which was a bit horrible. The girl next to me started rolling her eyes, tutting noisily, then started talking to nobody in particular about how disgusting it was and how people who did that should be ashamed of themselves, and just get off the train, etc. The rugby guy was completely oblivious, and the rest of us were all ignoring her. Anyway about a minute after she finished her speech her own boyfriend threw up copiously all over himself and her shoes. I have never seen anyone look so mortified.

This has nothing to do with MP3 girls, who I have never heard.

― Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 15:20 (nineteen years ago)

who I have never heard.

cos u use the tube probably. is the tube free for young people now, or is it just the bus?

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 15:23 (nineteen years ago)

Teenage girls are almost impossible to argue with, so it's best avoided

― Am I Re-elected Yet? (Dada), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 15:26 (nineteen years ago)

"Noisy Teenagers on the Train: Is Society Fucked?" LOL The Graudian.

― No Suntan, No Credibility (noodle vague), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 15:27 (nineteen years ago)

he should have just thrown her phone out of the window, i would

― The Real DG (D to thee G), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 15:30 (nineteen years ago)

I do think there are interesting cultural implications surrounding the issue though. Such as, is it something people will 'grow out of', or having picked up the habit will they continue to do it? People generally quieten down post-adolescence esp. as they start spending more time alone among many (commuting, chores or whatever) - but you do wonder.

All this said, it WAS 11.30 at night so you would expect a lot of noise on the train at that time, of different types and from different people. I've never been one to make a lot of noise myself tho, even when drunk and travelling somewhere with a big party.

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 15:33 (nineteen years ago)

if you don't like mp3 then pay for the tube innit. ;)

― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 15:35 (nineteen years ago)

i'm buying a bike.

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 15:36 (nineteen years ago)

it WAS 11.30 at night so you would expect a lot of noise on the train at that time

i dunno... the last brighton to london train is generally v quiet (at least it is sun-thurs nights, can't speak for fri or sat as last train back is at 11.02 rendering it UTTERLY POINTLESS to go to brighton for the eve). no idea what it's like in the other direction.

xpost yay stevem!

― emsk ( emsk), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 15:37 (nineteen years ago)

i would expect the same problems to occur on the tube tho, esp. if kids can use it for free now. it'll make them think they're priviledged enough to do as they please! [/toynbee]

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 15:37 (nineteen years ago)

but yeah! i thought extrapolating an encounter with a group of rude kids on a train, to the DEMISE OF COMMON GOOD was the kind of crap daily mail will churn out.

― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 15:38 (nineteen years ago)

emsk i think that train the grumpy dude was on was london->brighton! (which i'd expect to be noiser) BUT YEAH THAT FRIDAY NIGHT LONDONBOUND TRAIN IS STOOPID??!? WHY STOP AT 11:02 WHEN PROLLY IT'S NEEDED QUITE A LOT?

― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 15:39 (nineteen years ago)

probably because of vomit drunks :-D yay!

― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 15:40 (nineteen years ago)

steve the free ride things gets REVOKED if you misbehave like! (enforced by god knows).. although i guess you can with an oyster thing)

― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 15:41 (nineteen years ago)

ken do you think people shouldn't mind when other people force them to listen to shit quality music they didn't choose? (unfortunately i had too much of this from my brother as a kid hence my stern curmudgeonly take on things)

steve the free ride things gets REVOKED if you misbehave like! (enforced by god knows).. although i guess you can with an oyster thing)

it's not that big a deal in a way as young people have coped with having to pay for so long as it is.

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 15:47 (nineteen years ago)

Yes and the wee bastards are fat and lazy enough without getting free public transport to take them a couple of stops

― Am I Re-elected Yet? (Dada), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 15:49 (nineteen years ago)

Teenagers are rude fuckers. The author should've stopped right at the paragraph where he admits this and then Select All, Delete. If they weren't annoying you on the bus with shitty downloaded songs on their mobiles they'd be driving around recklessly with car stereos at concert volume. Pick one.

Tom's story about vomit is terrific.

― TOMBOT (TOMBOT), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 15:52 (nineteen years ago)

maybe i should buy THEM bikes, the rich white person that I am.

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 15:54 (nineteen years ago)

Jesus, no way, the fuckers already ride up and down the pavements round my bit like it's a fuckin' Velodrome as it is

― Am I Re-elected Yet? (Dada), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 15:57 (nineteen years ago)

i meant exercise bikes amirite/heyishouldtalk

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 15:58 (nineteen years ago)

Teenagers do this on the train in NYC. Except it's usually only one person listening to the goddamn speaker on their goddamn phone at full goddamn volume. If it's groups they just scream at each other across the car. Doesn't seem to be an intentional attempt to annoy people, just seems like a stance that other people aren't there. Everybody else usually just turns their headphones up and ignores them. Which I sort of like I guess, there's always a time when you're the annoying one on the train.

Public transportation is different from public spaces in that you can't get out of it even if you want to. You don't like what someone's doing in a plaza, you can go somewhere else. You don't like what someone's doing in a train car, there's not a damn thing you can do.

― Eppy (Eppy), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 16:03 (nineteen years ago)

ken it's not about extrapolating from teenagers being little shits to OMG SOCIETY DOWN THE DRAIN; but a question of modern etiquette that is sufficiently commonplace to raise in the public press. people don't tell the MP3 girls to shut it coz they're scared basically, and not entirely unreasonably. also there's a feeling that you SHOULDN'T HAVE TO ASK, REALLY.

but because society's not going down the drain (i mean, obviously IT IS, but that's nothing to do with mp3s, more to do with three decades of neo-liberalism blah blah) hey let's say fuck it and get used to a minority of little runts actively lowering the quality of life for everyone else. you're only young 1x.

― EARLY-90S MAN (Enrique), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 18:33 (nineteen years ago)

do peeps really call them mp3 girls?

The only public nuisance altercations I've been involved in have seen me as (a) the perpetrator or (b) the guy telling the Fan5haw3-type they were making things worse.

In (a), I was listening to Kitchens of Distinction (!) on a tape Walkman (this was 15 years ago) on a train somewhere in the Midlands. The same woman (two or three rows of seats away on a near-empty train) told me three times to "please turn it down" before shuffling off in disgust to another carriage. By the third time, I had it on so low she'd have had to have been inside my ear canal to hear it over the train noise.

In (b), some guy's headphones were bleeding noisily in a crowded Tube train out of Brixton. Two very camp young men rounded on him; the perp either blanked them or didn't understand, which enraged them and they very theatrically continued to complain. A woman suggested that, as this person and their music would be out of their lives in about 10 minutes' time, maybe they could drop it. "Oh, well that's typical of this country, isn't it? No one is prepared to say anything. Well, I'm not having it," said Camp Major. Pam & I weighed in and said that the extremely uncomfortable scene they'd now created was far worse than a bit of Walkman noise, to which they inevitably replied, "Oh, and you're making it better how?" So I theatrically STFU. One of them made some jibe about Pam's fuzzy hat as we got off the Tube at Oxford Circus.

In my darker moments, I imagine both (a) and (b) ending in a frenzy of bloody fists.

― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 19:00 (nineteen years ago)

i'm glad milton's finally got the idea!!

― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 22:46 (nineteen years ago)

btw i forgot to link this.. this one kind of reverses the age thing too in a way...

grumpy man on bus in hong kong becomes star of the internet

― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 22:50 (nineteen years ago)

if 'peeps' = me then 'yes'.

― EARLY-90S MAN (Enrique), Thursday, 21 September 2006 07:16 (nineteen years ago)

kinda apropos mike's point a) i find it odd that walkmans (walkmen?) are banned in the quiet carriages of trains. phones i can understand, children i can understand but not walkmen. i guess there is a chance that they'll have leaky headphones but still...

the one time someone took an affront to me on a train was because i was subconsciously tapping along with the music on the back of his chair. didn't realise until he swapped seats.

― Koogy Yonderboy (koogs), Thursday, 21 September 2006 07:38 (nineteen years ago)

people who try out all their ringtone options while on public transport -- hangin's too good for 'em.

― EARLY-90S MAN (Enrique), Thursday, 21 September 2006 07:40 (nineteen years ago)

some guy was doing that last night. i thought i was back in 1999.

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Thursday, 21 September 2006 08:44 (nineteen years ago)

people who try out all their ringtone options while on public transport -- hangin's too good for 'em.

otm, same with the ones who don't turn the sound off on the game they're playing on their phone.

otoh people who try out all their digital camera options while alone on public transport, taking pics of themselves in a variety of poses and pulling faces = totally uber-classic.

― emsk ( emsk), Thursday, 21 September 2006 08:51 (nineteen years ago)

You are aware of them doing this while they're alone = they are you!

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Thursday, 21 September 2006 09:09 (nineteen years ago)

they cannot be me as i have never owned a digital camera. they have no company. it's far less entertaining - irritating, even - when there are two of them taking pics of each other.

― emsk ( emsk), Thursday, 21 September 2006 09:29 (nineteen years ago)

do ringtones still exist as a concept??? blimey!

hahaah emsk that's what i do all the time it is the best thing to do ever.

except i have just downloaded loads of naruto episodes on the ipod so i spend loads of time watching anime on buses instead (with headphones on innit) and feel like i live in the space age.

― ken c (ken c), Thursday, 21 September 2006 12:01 (nineteen years ago)

six months pass...

ken c bait

― That one guy that quit, Tuesday, 17 April 2007 11:24 (nineteen years ago)

four years pass...

still a thing

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-13749313

― underrated mountain goats bootlegs I have owned (history mayne), Thursday, 16 June 2011 13:36 (fifteen years ago)

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