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Haha I probably know half of them too. Ex usenet people, some of em. Expat Aussies in some cases also.

― Trayce (trayce), Thursday, 13 October 2005 09:47 (eighteen years ago) link

They're lovely though!

Marcello next time the blogging urge strikes you should try it on LJ and feel the difference!

― Tom (Groke), Thursday, 13 October 2005 09:50 (eighteen years ago) link

Yeah but I haven't got a digital camera so I can't post pix and graphics innit?

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 13 October 2005 09:51 (eighteen years ago) link

I can't post an avatar!

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 13 October 2005 09:52 (eighteen years ago) link

I don't post pics and graphics, my 'avatars' come off scanning in pics or nicking them from the web.

― Tom (Groke), Thursday, 13 October 2005 09:52 (eighteen years ago) link

Does LJ have anti-troll security in situ?

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 13 October 2005 09:56 (eighteen years ago) link

Yes. You can limit comments to friends, turn them off, screen anonymous ones (vet them before they appear publically) or forbid anonymous ones entirely (I think).

― Tom (Groke), Thursday, 13 October 2005 09:59 (eighteen years ago) link

Yup, all true. Also you dont HAVE to have an avatar, it lets you go about yr biz without one.

― Trayce (trayce), Thursday, 13 October 2005 10:03 (eighteen years ago) link

Its easy to stay insular on LJ should that be yr wont, as well.

Its also worth mentioning that "friending" is a bit of a misnomer - people take it personally but all it really implies is "this is a user who I'd like to read regularly" (kind of like an RSS feed I suppose). It also allows that person to see any posts you lock to "friends only". But even then you can post private posts too. Its all passworded.

― Trayce (trayce), Thursday, 13 October 2005 10:09 (eighteen years ago) link

I do feel the urge to blog again. But at the moment, for personal reasons, I'm thinking that I only want one person to read it (no, not me)...

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 13 October 2005 10:11 (eighteen years ago) link

Well there again is LJs advantage over say, Blogger/MT. You can control exactly who sees it - as long as they have an LJ login too and you "lock" every post.

I know many people who do just that. They have one public post that says "this journal is friends only", in case someone stumbles on the blog. Every other post is filtered.

I filter work posts, drug ones, etc.

― Trayce (trayce), Thursday, 13 October 2005 10:13 (eighteen years ago) link

What I meant is that at the moment I'm in the middle of putting together a special one-off blog, but I'm only going to give the link to the person who asked me to write it 'cos I'm kind of writing it for her...

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 13 October 2005 10:16 (eighteen years ago) link

Why not just e-mail?

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Thursday, 13 October 2005 10:45 (eighteen years ago) link

Seriously, good point. That way it's totally private and noone can chance upon it. Or is that not the point?

― Kv_nol (Kv_nol), Thursday, 13 October 2005 10:56 (eighteen years ago) link

livejournal is gay

― ken c (ken c), Thursday, 13 October 2005 10:59 (eighteen years ago) link

but so is ilx. so 1-1

― ken c (ken c), Thursday, 13 October 2005 11:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Why do an online blog at all if you don't want everyone and anyone, potentially, to read it?

Same goes for posting on ILX of course.

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Thursday, 13 October 2005 11:01 (eighteen years ago) link

Stevem OTMFM. I think that email or better yet send it by letter reduces the risk of you doing anything to make it easier for other people to read. But I ask again is that really important? you've mentioned this one off blog and knowing ILX people are going to be asking for the link and it'll be given and there'll be trolling and the usual sort of thing will happen.

― Kv_nol (Kv_nol), Thursday, 13 October 2005 11:04 (eighteen years ago) link

and... and... and... gad I sound like a breathless 5 year old just in from school.

"Usual sort of thing" Anger and recrimination all round.

― Kv_nol (Kv_nol), Thursday, 13 October 2005 11:05 (eighteen years ago) link

if you put it on livejournal you can change it afterward and possibly before the other person sees it. can't with email

― ken c (ken c), Thursday, 13 October 2005 11:05 (eighteen years ago) link

formatting etc. is more difficult with email esp linking pictures and fills up inbox and gets deleted (unless you believe gmail)

― ken c (ken c), Thursday, 13 October 2005 11:06 (eighteen years ago) link

also maybe you want friends to be able to find out how you are doing if you want to you don't want strangers to know, and you don't want to impose upon other people by emailing them maybe it's just a tone thing. when you email people it's normally something more significant. like how phonecalls are more significant than text messages and you won't call someone just to say "lol i just saw a roadsign that says 'wetwang' on it, bye!" because sometimes life is more than just a one minute phonecall.

― ken c (ken c), Thursday, 13 October 2005 11:09 (eighteen years ago) link

how about just hand-writing a letter? you can use glitter and stuff.

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Thursday, 13 October 2005 11:11 (eighteen years ago) link

see posts 1 and 3

― ken c (ken c), Thursday, 13 October 2005 11:15 (eighteen years ago) link

which posts do you mean?

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Thursday, 13 October 2005 11:17 (eighteen years ago) link

formatting etc. is more difficult with email esp linking pictures and fills up inbox and gets deleted (unless you believe gmail)
-- ken c (pykachu10...), October 13th, 2005 12:06 PM. (ken c) (later) (link)

same problem with handwritten letters.

― ken c (ken c), Thursday, 13 October 2005 11:18 (eighteen years ago) link

first bit should be

you put it on livejournal you can change it afterward and possibly before the other person sees it. can't with email
-- ken c (pykachu10...), October 13th, 2005 12:05 PM. (ken c) (later) (link)

SAME PROBLEM WITH ILX TOO, YOU SEE.

― ken c (ken c), Thursday, 13 October 2005 11:19 (eighteen years ago) link

how about just hand-writing a letter? you can use glitter and stuff.

yeah but w/ilx0r, you can hot-link to "funny" pictures, can't you? Glitter and stuff is jst, like, yesterday.

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Thursday, 13 October 2005 11:19 (eighteen years ago) link

Marcello doesn't know how to post avatars so I doubt he is bothered about linking to funny pictures on a blog for one.

Who doesn't love a little bit of glitter tossed around hither and thither though?

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Thursday, 13 October 2005 11:22 (eighteen years ago) link

I did register w/my space for my music duo, I haven't got a fucking clue what to do w/it. We do have one "friend" though!

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Thursday, 13 October 2005 11:22 (eighteen years ago) link

The guy who started My Space?

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Thursday, 13 October 2005 11:23 (eighteen years ago) link

It would be ~~annoying~~ funny if letters were like ILE, though. I mean, I'd get the electricity bill on Tuesday, and by Friday, I'd have another three parody utility bills.

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Thursday, 13 October 2005 11:24 (eighteen years ago) link

Yeah but Ken you're not really following me. My point is that MC has been asked to write this blog for the person. Why a blog I don't know, it's not very private and who's to say what it's for. I don't care about the content I just think that because a request has been made and it's a one off well why not email it? Why put it up in the public domain for chance discovery?

― Kv_nol (Kv_nol), Thursday, 13 October 2005 11:25 (eighteen years ago) link

The guy who started My Space?

"Tom", you mean! No, apart from "Tom". Take a look:

http://www.myspace.com/vietgrove

I really should write something to put in it. Or maybe I could start whining incessantly on the blog bit.

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Thursday, 13 October 2005 11:26 (eighteen years ago) link

anyone want to be my LJ FRIEND???

― Homosexual II (Homosexual II), Thursday, 13 October 2005 11:52 (eighteen years ago) link

I just signed up for a livejournal account so I could read a friend's LJ. I don't know though, I probably won't post anything. When I think of LJ I think of self indulgent, adolescent, goth whining. Even though many people's LJs are not like that at all, it's hard to shake that stereotype.

― O'so Krispie (Ex Leon), Thursday, 13 October 2005 12:24 (eighteen years ago) link

I use my LJ to bash goths. Problem is, they love it.

― Momus (Momus), Thursday, 13 October 2005 13:07 (eighteen years ago) link

rhodri is not a goth ;-)

― Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Thursday, 13 October 2005 13:07 (eighteen years ago) link

Rubbish, I've only ever seen him wearing black. Don't let all that Hall and Oates propaganda fool you.

― Momus (Momus), Thursday, 13 October 2005 13:10 (eighteen years ago) link

xxxxxpost yeah but you might not care much about the content but i assume marcello and his friend might!

― ken c (ken c), Thursday, 13 October 2005 13:13 (eighteen years ago) link

i have a livejournal BUT AS IF I AM GOING TO TELL ILX ABOUT IT

― ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!!, Thursday, 13 October 2005 13:14 (eighteen years ago) link

i started a LJ once, so i could comment on carmodys, or was it, tom mays lj. i havent done anything on it since

i looked and i could see the boat drifting over the horizon

― terry lennox. (gareth), Thursday, 13 October 2005 13:19 (eighteen years ago) link

Ken, that is why I can't understand the need to put it on a public forum.

― Kv_nol (Kv_nol), Thursday, 13 October 2005 13:48 (eighteen years ago) link

When I think of LJ I think of self indulgent, adolescent, goth whining. Even though many people's LJs are not like that at all, it's hard to shake that stereotype.

Yeah, that's pretty much been my impression, with the same stereotypes at play.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 13 October 2005 13:53 (eighteen years ago) link

http://www.livejournal.com/userinfo.bml?user=jel_bugle

Any goddamn chance to write a list!

― jel -- (jel), Thursday, 13 October 2005 15:40 (eighteen years ago) link

-you can tag your LJ unindexable-

how do you do this?

On the Edit Information page, just tick the box for "Minimize your journal's inclusion in search engine results."

― Lesley v2, Thursday, 13 October 2005 16:07 (eighteen years ago) link

livejournal is more emo than goth I thought?

― Roxymuzak, Mrs. Carbohydrate (roxymuzak), Thursday, 13 October 2005 16:11 (eighteen years ago) link

It's a fair question and the answer is I want to make it a little more special than just a normal email. Even with a standard blog design it would look as though some effort went into it (and it is going to be far too long in terms of content for a standard email or Hotmail attachment).

The content is not particularly person-specific, and I'm not bothered about people randomly stumbling across it on Google - it's simply that I would like this person to see it first (and if anyone else likes it it's a bonus yes I know) 'cos basically it is for her.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 14 October 2005 05:59 (eighteen years ago) link

Right so. That clears that up. I still like the idea of glitter etc but in this cold technological age what hope is there for fairy magic?

― Kv_nol (Kv_nol), Friday, 14 October 2005 08:32 (eighteen years ago) link

mandee, how can i be yr lj friend if i don't know yr namey thing?

― CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Friday, 14 October 2005 10:26 (eighteen years ago) link

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