What is it about the really good ones (i.e. Tropical Malady or maybe Happy Together) that always inspires the demand "don't shoehorn them into those limited sexual alignments"? Like, they have to be bad to be "gay"?
... or should this be "Defend the Indefensible"? (Heap as much scorn on this thread as you can on the likes of Get Real and All Over the Guy.)
― Eric H. (Eric H.), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 14:36 (eighteen years ago) link
― Eric H. (Eric H.), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 14:39 (eighteen years ago) link
― N_RQ, Wednesday, 21 September 2005 14:41 (eighteen years ago) link
― Eric H. (Eric H.), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 14:42 (eighteen years ago) link
i'd love to see the Genet film. is it available on DVD?
― jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 14:43 (eighteen years ago) link
― Eric H. (Eric H.), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 14:44 (eighteen years ago) link
― N_RQ, Wednesday, 21 September 2005 14:45 (eighteen years ago) link
― roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 14:52 (eighteen years ago) link
― Guy Beckett (guy), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 15:08 (eighteen years ago) link
Taxi zum KloA Thousand Clouds of Peace...
Jed, that's PARTING Glances, and nothing in it approaches Steve Buscemi's level.
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 15:13 (eighteen years ago) link
― andy --, Wednesday, 21 September 2005 15:13 (eighteen years ago) link
― JTS, Wednesday, 21 September 2005 21:16 (eighteen years ago) link
― C0L1N B... (C0L1N B...), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 22:55 (eighteen years ago) link
― Wiggy (Wiggy), Thursday, 22 September 2005 00:43 (eighteen years ago) link
― Casuistry (Chris P), Thursday, 22 September 2005 00:46 (eighteen years ago) link
'finding forrester'?
― N_RQ, Thursday, 22 September 2005 07:34 (eighteen years ago) link
― ESTEBAN BUTTEZ!!!!!, Thursday, 22 September 2005 11:55 (eighteen years ago) link
― A Nairn (moretap), Thursday, 22 September 2005 12:06 (eighteen years ago) link
― Eric H. (Eric H.), Thursday, 22 September 2005 12:16 (eighteen years ago) link
― A Nairn (moretap), Thursday, 22 September 2005 12:22 (eighteen years ago) link
whatshisface from TLA, who literally wrote the book on gay/queer cinema(and it's a fascinating book), always put together really cool bills for the gay film festival in philly every year. there is SO much out there. and yeah, some is horrible, but that is true of everything.
― scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 22 September 2005 12:28 (eighteen years ago) link
― Eric H. (Eric H.), Thursday, 22 September 2005 12:47 (eighteen years ago) link
Tho some might say 'not gay enuf,' I would mention Jenni Olson's "The Joy of Life," which has played in far too few cities.
http://imdb.com/title/tt0436457/
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 22 September 2005 13:14 (eighteen years ago) link
Farewell My ConcubineBeau travail (it's not just a "gay film", but the gay theme is very strong, though mostly under the surface)Half of AlmodovarGods and MonstersLiliesFamily PackReplay (La Répétition)Surrender DorothySuddenly (Tan de repente)
― Tuomas (Tuomas), Thursday, 22 September 2005 13:41 (eighteen years ago) link
― Casuistry (Chris P), Thursday, 22 September 2005 14:10 (eighteen years ago) link
― Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Thursday, 22 September 2005 14:13 (eighteen years ago) link
― Eric H. (Eric H.), Thursday, 22 September 2005 14:28 (eighteen years ago) link
― Casuistry (Chris P), Thursday, 22 September 2005 14:30 (eighteen years ago) link
Or as teh Scarecrow said to Dorothy, "Some people go both ways."
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 22 September 2005 14:43 (eighteen years ago) link
― xero, Thursday, 22 September 2005 14:43 (eighteen years ago) link
― scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 22 September 2005 14:55 (eighteen years ago) link
* Homosexual * Independent Film * Gay Interest * Abandoned Building * Adolescent * Art Collector * Brutality * Childhood Friend * Christmas * Cruising * Desert * Domestic Violence * Drag Queen * Forest * Gay Bar * Gay Bashing * Gun * Highway * Interview * Kennedy Assassination * Lake * Male Nudity * Memory * Movie Theater * New York City * Prostitution * Rape * Same Sex Situation * Same Sex Union * Semi Autobiographical * Small Town * Truck Driver * Violence * Water * Hitch Hiker * Non Linear * Pay For Sex * Pick Up * Porno Theater * Sexual Imagery * Sun Bathing * Male Prostitute * Depression * Sadomasochism
― scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 22 September 2005 14:57 (eighteen years ago) link
― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 22 September 2005 15:00 (eighteen years ago) link
― gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 22 September 2005 15:07 (eighteen years ago) link
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 22 September 2005 15:09 (eighteen years ago) link
― Eric H. (Eric H.), Thursday, 22 September 2005 15:10 (eighteen years ago) link
― joseph (joseph), Thursday, 22 September 2005 20:24 (eighteen years ago) link
― xero, Thursday, 22 September 2005 20:28 (eighteen years ago) link
search..uh.. Midnight Cowboy? The Conformist? Dog Day Afternoon? I guess those are just movies with gay people in them, though haha
I watched most of Latter Days with my last roommate. He didn't seem to find it all to, er, edifying, so.. destroy.
― poortheatre (poortheatre), Thursday, 22 September 2005 22:39 (eighteen years ago) link
this site is funny:
http://campblood.org/
― scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 23 September 2005 00:44 (eighteen years ago) link
http://www.tlavideo.com/templates/results_list.cfm?v=0&sn=1&pid=8358
― scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 23 September 2005 00:52 (eighteen years ago) link
"It all starts when the lead singer of a boy band just doesn't fit into the team anymore. So they do what all good boy bands do, the underwear-clad studs gather round the singer and suck his blood dry. To replace the lead singer the band, and their manager played with calm poise by Adrienne Barbeau (the actress, currently on "Carnavale" on HBO, is known for creating the role of Rizzo in Grease and playing Maude's daughter in the '70s TV show) decide to hold public concerts. Creating a sort of reality TV situation they select three contestants and invite the hunky boys to their private island where they will select the new singer. Immediately, there's friction with a girlfriend, a hero boy with a guitar on his back and lots of 6-pack abs and raised shirts. When the "good" contestant Shawn finds a secret cave with voodoo dolls, tons of candles, a torture rack and mysterious band photos, there's hell to pay."
― scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 23 September 2005 00:55 (eighteen years ago) link
OMG! That reminds me of a movie whose credentials as arty or gay are on probation, but Sleepaway Camp is the best slasher movie!
― Eric H. (Eric H.), Friday, 23 September 2005 04:20 (eighteen years ago) link
― hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 23 September 2005 06:01 (eighteen years ago) link
First gay fillum per se is Basil Dearden's Victim, starring Dirk Bogarde as a homo barrister in the days before Wolfenden, being scared to shit because bad men were bribing him with cottage photos. It's amazing. It's also on PBS affiliates about once every year, usually in a season with The Servant and other class-based dramas.
Also Paris is Burning seems to speak to/about the years I lived in NYC.
― suzy (suzy), Friday, 23 September 2005 07:16 (eighteen years ago) link
― hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 23 September 2005 07:22 (eighteen years ago) link
― Tuomas (Tuomas), Friday, 23 September 2005 07:27 (eighteen years ago) link
― Eric H. (Eric H.), Friday, 23 September 2005 08:42 (eighteen years ago) link
― Raymond Douglas Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 23 September 2005 08:57 (eighteen years ago) link
― tokyo nursery school: afternoon session (rosemary), Friday, 23 September 2005 13:53 (eighteen years ago) link
I was curious if that was worth a watch ... I prefer the Hulu show Love Victor (more or less) to its major motion picture antecedent Love Simon.
― Max Hamburgers (Eric H.), Thursday, 28 April 2022 15:19 (one year ago) link
I just read the first volume of the Hearstopper graphic novel, and have the other three on hold at the library. I'm not sure how much the first season of the series (or is it a "limited series?") covers, but I'm thinking I should hold off on starting the series until I finish up the books.
― Les hommes de bonbons (cryptosicko), Thursday, 28 April 2022 15:31 (one year ago) link
It covers the first two volumes. A friend praised the fidelity to the source.
What'd you think? As I wrote on Facebook, I grinned from ear to ear by the time I reached the last episode's revelations. Nice to see bisexuality given a boost too: no equivocations, no this-is-just-a-way-station bullshit.
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 28 April 2022 15:34 (one year ago) link
I also appreciated how Nick Nelson might be one of the few recent genuinely nice characters successfully presented.
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 28 April 2022 15:36 (one year ago) link
The first volume was really sweet. It may border on slight--although I am told the series eventually moves beyond just two boys making goo-goo eyes at each other--but I nevertheless appreciate its (relatively) angst-free presentation of queer joy.
― Les hommes de bonbons (cryptosicko), Thursday, 28 April 2022 15:42 (one year ago) link
Except for Nick's mom (nicely played by Olivia Colman) the parents are non-entities; however, Charlie's friends are fully fleshed out.
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 28 April 2022 15:46 (one year ago) link
hoooooly shit I just watched ZERO PATIENCE (1993), a very wacky and surreal musical in which noted explorer Sir Richard Burton drank from the fountain of youth and lives forever and is making a documentary about AIDS' Patient Zero? Please watch this. It's on Criterion Channel at the moment.
― music for A★TEENS’ musicians (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 13 June 2022 16:38 (one year ago) link
That's been a blind spot of mine for years and years. Will happily check out soon.
― Eggs Benedick (Eric H.), Monday, 13 June 2022 17:02 (one year ago) link
Daniel Craig plays an outcast American expat who lives in Mexico, and Drew Starkey stars as a younger man with whom he becomes madly infatuated, in Luca Guadagnino’s next film ‘QUEER.’Filming begins this month in Italy. pic.twitter.com/jfUiDC2QAG— Film Updates (@FilmUpdates) April 21, 2023
― fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Sunday, 23 April 2023 12:15 (seven months ago) link
I detest cheap sentiment.
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 23 April 2023 12:25 (seven months ago) link
Or a book full of clippings?
― fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Sunday, 23 April 2023 15:20 (seven months ago) link
Or a salted peanut.
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 23 April 2023 15:22 (seven months ago) link
Daniel Craig leaning into gay roles now makes good on how hot he was in Enduring Love and Munich
― fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Sunday, 23 April 2023 15:29 (seven months ago) link
and Infamous, the first movie where I went hubba-hubab.
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 23 April 2023 15:32 (seven months ago) link
this would make for a fun movie tie-in version of the book, if that's still a thing
― soup of magpies (geoffreyess), Sunday, 23 April 2023 15:35 (seven months ago) link
Passages proving surprisingly divisive amongst my Letterboxd gays
― fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Tuesday, 15 August 2023 20:42 (three months ago) link
Your response?
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 15 August 2023 20:52 (three months ago) link
(I watch it on Saturday)
Still on my to-watch list, sadly, but I expect it opens here before too long. Meanwhile, I'll be reviewing Rotting in the Sun soon enough.
― fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Tuesday, 15 August 2023 20:54 (three months ago) link
(Oh crap, Passages has opened here. Will try to see it this weekend.)
― fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Tuesday, 15 August 2023 20:58 (three months ago) link
i enjoyed it!
― donna rouge, Tuesday, 15 August 2023 21:04 (three months ago) link
Another gay arty short I've seen tons of enthusiasm over: https://letterboxd.com/film/the-taking-of-jordan-all-american-boy/
― fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Tuesday, 15 August 2023 21:05 (three months ago) link
I really liked Passages too. Must've been the Ira Sachs thread that I posted on.
― soup of magpies (geoffreyess), Tuesday, 15 August 2023 22:13 (three months ago) link
Ira Sachs has quietly created an intelligent little gay oeuvre
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 15 August 2023 22:16 (three months ago) link
he really has
― Dan S, Tuesday, 15 August 2023 22:21 (three months ago) link
He’s one of the under-the-radar directors whose films I’ve recently enjoyed getting to know, like Celine Sciamma (who was not talked about much until the last few years), Eliza Hittman, and Jessica Hausner. I don’t think any of those directors have taken a wrong step yet. All of their films have been very understated but also interesting
― Dan S, Tuesday, 15 August 2023 22:42 (three months ago) link
I would put Ulrich Seidl in that category as well, and maybe some others. His films aren't gay as such but have a very queer sensibility
― Dan S, Tuesday, 15 August 2023 23:53 (three months ago) link
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/17/t-magazine/gay-villains-white-lotus-ripley.html
― fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Thursday, 17 August 2023 20:15 (three months ago) link
I watched Weekend (2011) tonight. Pretty good!
― jaymc, Friday, 18 August 2023 03:45 (three months ago) link
Well, except that Weekend is still within the last 10 years and I know it's too normcore and hetero for the room but fuck off and enjoy it.― "Minneapolis" (barf) (Eric H.), Wednesday, March 28, 2018 11:32 PM (five years ago)
ibid
― fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Friday, 18 August 2023 11:28 (three months ago) link
I really loved Passages - Franz Rogowski is a force of nature.
I also loved L'immensita, a semi-autobiographical Italian trans coming of age story by Emanuele Crialese, which has got otherwise mixed reviews. Everyone has focused on Penelope Cruz, but the non-actor kid in the central role is sensational.
― Piedie Gimbel, Friday, 18 August 2023 13:02 (three months ago) link
I agree with everything, except I also liked Penelope Cruz in that movie.
― Blecch on Blecch (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 18 August 2023 16:49 (three months ago) link
All of Us Strangers splitting my arty gays about as much as Passages did. When was the last arty gay movie that got universal arty-gay praise?
― Dwigt Rortugal (Eric H.), Friday, 20 October 2023 13:12 (one month ago) link
The majority of arty gays are wrong about All of Us Strangers btw. I loved it.
― active spectator of ecocide and dispossession (Eric H.), Friday, 17 November 2023 18:35 (one week ago) link
why didn't the arty gays like Passages?
― stuffing your suit pockets with cold, stale chicken tende (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 17 November 2023 18:48 (one week ago) link
A sampling:
What’s worse, the ego of the filmmaker in the movie or the ego of the filmmaker making the movie?
is this person hot enough to justify their horrible behavior?: the movie
This is a major problem for contemporary film culture in which actors are hired for their social identity and limited to it. Gay actors are bamboozled into invasive, distasteful postures the same way black actors are bamboozled into defensiveness. They are forced to find their way through politicized stereotypes according to the era’s fashion — where their humanity and creativity have been traduced and politicized.This desolate view of hapless people is extreme, consistent with Sachs’s interest in sexual compulsion (The Delta, Keep the Lights On), but it also smacks of humorless, radical progressivism. Pedro Almodóvar’s self-critical Pain and Glory was also emotional, erotic, and funny, with a wonderful, fully fleshed performance by Antonio Banderas and a range of lovers holding on to their humanity. But instead of bringing his characters close, Sachs brandishes topicality: After Thomas and Martin’s last squabble over infidelity, Sachs features a West Hollywood rainbow-flag poster that blares,“No More Abuse of Our Rights, Dignity,” “Police Officers Not Storm Troopers,” “Blue Fascism Must Go,” and “Stop Illegal Search and Seizure.”Those slogans are clearer than the relationships in Passages. These progressive libertines are miserable yet smug. Sachs salutes their headlong independence in the closing sequence where his camera tracks alongside Thomas’s bicycle ride across Paris. It’s also smug, recalling Woody Allen running through New York streets at the end of Manhattan but without the Chaplinesque payoff. Sachs has not perceived or created recognizable people in Passages but is selling politicized sexual types — perhaps, ultimately, a misperception of homosexuality. It’s like an adult version of Disney’s grooming agenda. Is this a harbinger of social propaganda to come?
This desolate view of hapless people is extreme, consistent with Sachs’s interest in sexual compulsion (The Delta, Keep the Lights On), but it also smacks of humorless, radical progressivism. Pedro Almodóvar’s self-critical Pain and Glory was also emotional, erotic, and funny, with a wonderful, fully fleshed performance by Antonio Banderas and a range of lovers holding on to their humanity. But instead of bringing his characters close, Sachs brandishes topicality: After Thomas and Martin’s last squabble over infidelity, Sachs features a West Hollywood rainbow-flag poster that blares,“No More Abuse of Our Rights, Dignity,” “Police Officers Not Storm Troopers,” “Blue Fascism Must Go,” and “Stop Illegal Search and Seizure.”
Those slogans are clearer than the relationships in Passages. These progressive libertines are miserable yet smug. Sachs salutes their headlong independence in the closing sequence where his camera tracks alongside Thomas’s bicycle ride across Paris. It’s also smug, recalling Woody Allen running through New York streets at the end of Manhattan but without the Chaplinesque payoff. Sachs has not perceived or created recognizable people in Passages but is selling politicized sexual types — perhaps, ultimately, a misperception of homosexuality. It’s like an adult version of Disney’s grooming agenda. Is this a harbinger of social propaganda to come?
― active spectator of ecocide and dispossession (Eric H.), Friday, 17 November 2023 19:04 (one week ago) link
OK you got me, the last one's 4rm0nd
Disney's grooming agenda
― stuffing your suit pockets with cold, stale chicken tende (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 17 November 2023 19:24 (one week ago) link
of the three samples eric posted: first one i don't get (sachs is hardly the fassbinder type?), second one is weaksauce "critique" (someone was horrible? in a movie???), third one is...well, armond
― donna rouge, Friday, 17 November 2023 20:31 (one week ago) link
I also liked All of us strangers - hard to resist if you grew up in the 80s suburbs listening to Pet Shop Boys. Kind of a queer spooky sibling to Eternal Daughter.
― Piedie Gimbel, Friday, 17 November 2023 23:35 (one week ago) link
Mescal and Scott did a q&a at my screening and their mutual affection was almost as moving as the film!
― Piedie Gimbel, Friday, 17 November 2023 23:38 (one week ago) link
i recommend paul b. preciado’s new godardian recasting of woolf’s orlando into the current-day trans milieuhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LpGFplNRUmc
― donna rouge, Saturday, 18 November 2023 05:36 (one week ago) link
Def my favorite key art of the year
― active spectator of ecocide and dispossession (Eric H.), Saturday, 18 November 2023 14:47 (one week ago) link
Man, Saltburn sounds awful
― active spectator of ecocide and dispossession (Eric H.), Tuesday, 21 November 2023 21:10 (one week ago) link
promising young woman was godawful, guess we’re in for more
― ivy., Tuesday, 21 November 2023 21:29 (one week ago) link
It's definitely less than the sum of its parts. (Its parts being Brideshead Revisited, The Talented Mr. Ripley and Gormenghast.) Great casting, lovely main location, song choices that a little TOO obvious at points.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 21 November 2023 21:36 (one week ago) link
But basically I forgot I saw it within a couple of days. I was thinking "Wait didn't I see a movie this past Monday...oh yeah right."
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 21 November 2023 21:37 (one week ago) link
didn't really have any interest in seeing saltburn till I saw Ned's post that added gormenghast to the brideshead/ripley comparisons had already heard - now sounds gloriously bad and i wanna see
― H in Addis, Wednesday, 22 November 2023 02:59 (six days ago) link
Barry Keoghan could make a great Steerpike. This attempt at a variant, well...
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 22 November 2023 04:31 (six days ago) link
Silverlake Life if "arty" = "gritty, lo-fi mid-80s documentary"― gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, September 22, 2005 8:07 AM (eighteen years ago)
― gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, September 22, 2005 8:07 AM (eighteen years ago)
gygax! OTM, absolute doomwatch that turned entire cinemas into weeping masses
― citation needed (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 22 November 2023 04:40 (six days ago) link