David Lynch - Classic or Dud

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Looked in the Films category for a discussion about him but suprisingly there doesn't seem to be one. So, Lynch, C or D?

Chris Lyons, Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

And is Mullholland Drive any good?

Chris Lyons, Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

I used to really like him, but now think he's really hit or miss. I went to see "Mulholland Drive" expecting to hate it, and by the end of the movie I did. By the next day I changed my mind and now I love it.

Sean, Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm mildly diffident on the Drive, leaning towards loathing. Lynch is just too darn "quirky". Bullshit complaint, I know, but that's what I think, and I'm sticking to that.

David Raposa, Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Nothing but love, so let's not talk about Dune, okay?

Nitsuh, Tuesday, 18 December 2001 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

I liked blue velvet. mostly because I like ROy ORbison , but the whole movie is pretty good escept for the ending

Mike Hanle y, Tuesday, 18 December 2001 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Absolute classic, since his first ever student films. His work with Alan Splet? on Eraserhead gave sound designers a whole new box of tricks. His editing and use of sound create almost visual poetry, playing with silence and darkness, it's refined the grammar of cinema, in my opinion. With the exception of 'Wild at Heart', which I just don't 'get', I'd recommend every film he's made.

K-reg, Tuesday, 18 December 2001 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Why not talk Dune?

K-reg, Tuesday, 18 December 2001 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

What's wrong with Blue Velvet's ending?

Justyn Dillingham, Tuesday, 18 December 2001 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

its a happy ending. i love david lynch films. yah a couple suck. but the good parts make up for all of it. hell mulholland drive makes up for dune tenfold.

chaki, Tuesday, 18 December 2001 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

I like Lost Highway,
The Straight Story, Blue Velvet.
Twin Peaks? That's great too.

Jeff W, Tuesday, 18 December 2001 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Didn't he do Elephant Man too?

Wild At Heart is fantastic - reading the book might help if you don't get the movie. I have bits of dreams and real-life that seem to be directed by David Lynch. I'm not as sexy as Sherrilyn Fenn though, which is one of the many tradgedies of my life.

toraneko, Tuesday, 18 December 2001 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Are you sure the ending of Blue Velvet is happy? It always seemed important to me that the bird was fake, and that the acting in the last scene is even more stilted than normal. Something about how happiness is defined.

Dan I., Wednesday, 19 December 2001 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

one year passes...
Twin Peaks got so wayward, uresolved, sticking in the memory increasingly boringly. yet I can watch Mullholand Drive again and again.

with its Aussie soap stars, Mulholland Drive is like a lost episode, at least outdoingFire walk with Me me in episodic tension or edge (but to be fair, what can be expeced from a prequel)

Mulholland Drive is a great film for Lynch, yanking him out of his US weirdo cult niche and projecting world class ideas onto the world stage. I fail to see how it could stand a chance at BAFTA with Princess Ann on the board however (Oscars and Globes out-of-th-qn i assume).

His outsiderness, and his adoption finally by Cannes, like a Roman Polanski.

george gosset (gegoss), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 08:16 (sixteen years ago) link

dune: classic or dud would be interesting.

amateurist (amateurist), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 08:21 (sixteen years ago) link

I would love to say that David Lynch is a genius, who knows maybe he is, but he's just not for me. I have seen some of his stuff & I know it's meant to be weird & make you think about it, but it's too much. Blue Velvet, Mulholland Drive, you can keep them both.

Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 09:12 (sixteen years ago) link

Amateurist I watched Dune a couple of years ago (at a Lynch all-nighter in Paris, no less) & I was quite surprised at how much I was LOVING it, at least until the mid-point of the second act or so when it completely disintegrated.

s1utsky (slutsky), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 16:29 (sixteen years ago) link

Wait - did David Lynch direct the OG Dune? Or are we talking about the recent redux? If we're talking about the OG I don't see how it could be anything other than KUHLASSICK.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 16:42 (sixteen years ago) link

Wait - did David Lynch direct the OG Dune?

Most certainly did -- his third film after Eraserhead and The Elephant Man.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 16:43 (sixteen years ago) link

that movie really has some of the best production design ever. ever ever.

s1utsky (slutsky), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 16:44 (sixteen years ago) link

Factoid: Jodorowsky was originally scheduled to direct Dune, but his projected budget, among other things, prevented him from doing so.

Francis Watlington (Francis Watlington), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 17:47 (sixteen years ago) link

good

jones (actual), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 17:52 (sixteen years ago) link

his fils can be classic or unclassic (straight story) or downright dud (wild at heart) but as a director and a persona he is never anything less than K-k-k-k-klassic!

Did anyone ever see that interview he did for scene by scene - i loved the bit where he's talking about "the eye of the duck" to describe the key scene in his films.

Also i highly recommend the book "Lynch on Lynch" - so much fun!

jed (jed_e_3), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 18:58 (sixteen years ago) link

wild at heart rules!

s1utsky (slutsky), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 19:04 (sixteen years ago) link

I watched The Straight Story again recently and realized it might be one of my favorite of his films (as opposed to the first time I watched it, where my reaction could be summed up as such: "WTF?"). It's very touching, and about as involving as a film with so little "action" gets.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 19:11 (sixteen years ago) link

i would've liked it if he'd arrived at harry dean stanton's house in the first reel and they spent the rest of the picture hanging out on the porch

jones (actual), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 19:15 (sixteen years ago) link

(same goes for Chris Isaak in Fire Walk with Me)

Herbstmute (Wintermute), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 19:32 (sixteen years ago) link

Mulholland Drive is a great film for Lynch, yanking him out of his US weirdo cult niche and projecting world class ideas onto the world stage. I fail to see how it could stand a chance at BAFTA with Princess Ann on the board however (Oscars and Globes out-of-th-qn i assume).

Umm. This movie is two years old. Why are we speculating on its award chances?

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 19:40 (sixteen years ago) link


i had heard a rumor that lucas wanted lynch to direct one of the movies in the original trilogy, my guess would be return of the jedi. anyone else heard this? fact/fiction? if lynch had done one they might've been good.

*waiting for backlash*

Dean Gulberry (deangulberry), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 19:49 (sixteen years ago) link

The ewoks would've drank coffee and there would've been creepy sax music.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 19:51 (sixteen years ago) link


creepy sex music would've been good too.

Dean Gulberry (deangulberry), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 19:52 (sixteen years ago) link


i'm guessing the effects would've been worse too, if that's possible.

Dean Gulberry (deangulberry), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 19:53 (sixteen years ago) link

yes lynch was supposed to direct return of the jedi, he turned it down and did dune instead.

anthony kyle monday (akmonday), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 20:27 (sixteen years ago) link

Man, I might've actually liked a Star Wars movie. Wait, but I didn't like Dune. Oh well. I would've like to see have seen it done, though.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 20:39 (sixteen years ago) link

I love love love love Mulholland Drive.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Thursday, 30 October 2003 00:35 (sixteen years ago) link

Mulholland Dve, Elephant Man, Lost Hwy and Eraserhead are all great. Dune was shite (didnt Lynch have his name removed from it on re-release or something tho? Or am I confused). I wasn't a huge fan of Blue Velvet, and I never watched a second of Twin Peaks - I must be the only person in the world my age who hasn't!

Trayce (trayce), Thursday, 30 October 2003 00:46 (sixteen years ago) link

Yes, Lynch had his name removed from Dune. As I mentioned above, I really thing Mulholland Drive was a return for Lynch; I think it's great.

Sean (Sean), Thursday, 30 October 2003 01:21 (sixteen years ago) link

He had his name removed from the TV version, which did include a lot of extra footage that fanboy me appreciated (and which fleshed out the story a hell of a lot more readily). It was, however, a poor edit in technical terms, most notably with a complete hijacking of the musical score that made no sense.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 30 October 2003 01:22 (sixteen years ago) link

only removed from the extended-for-TV version?

crosspost

RJG (RJG), Thursday, 30 October 2003 01:23 (sixteen years ago) link

Dune is one of my favorite movies ever. Makes perfect sense if you read the book (and don't anybody come back with "it should stand on it's own" bs, etc.)

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 30 October 2003 01:27 (sixteen years ago) link

Makes perfect sense if you read the book

Yeah, quite right. I read the book a year before the movie came out so my timing was perfect there...

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 30 October 2003 01:28 (sixteen years ago) link

Btw, Amazon describes the TV version as being 'shorter'.

Sean (Sean), Thursday, 30 October 2003 01:29 (sixteen years ago) link

!?! Amazon is wrong.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 30 October 2003 01:29 (sixteen years ago) link

yeah, I have both versions on DVD.

although, N. has had my copy of the cinema one for nearly a year, now.

RJG (RJG), Thursday, 30 October 2003 01:32 (sixteen years ago) link

It's now on my Netfilx queue since I haven't seen it in years. (and what are they doing recommending Cher Live to me?? Just because I rented The Eyes of Laura Mars?)

Sean (Sean), Thursday, 30 October 2003 01:36 (sixteen years ago) link

the recent TV Dune was unwatchable.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 30 October 2003 01:38 (sixteen years ago) link

you know the best bit of dune is when alicia witt sez "and how can this be? for he is the kwizzach hadarach!" and inexplicably pulls her bottom lip all the way across the side of her face on the 'be' or 'is', i forget which

cremaster's opulent mythboredom reminded me a lot of dune

prima fassy (bob), Thursday, 30 October 2003 08:23 (sixteen years ago) link

cremaster 2 most indebted, obv

prima fassy (bob), Thursday, 30 October 2003 08:24 (sixteen years ago) link

but not to dune

prima fassy (bob), Thursday, 30 October 2003 08:24 (sixteen years ago) link

to other suburban lynch

prima fassy (bob), Thursday, 30 October 2003 08:25 (sixteen years ago) link

you heard me

bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Monday, 20 January 2020 16:17 (five months ago) link

new Lynch film is always excellent news

Οὖτις, Monday, 20 January 2020 16:19 (five months ago) link

'A detective interrogates a monkey who is suspected of murder.'

Nice.

pomenitul, Monday, 20 January 2020 16:20 (five months ago) link

and it's lynch's birthday today too

"it was the ape in the rue morgue with simian frenzy and a chimneypiece"

mark s, Monday, 20 January 2020 16:24 (five months ago) link

I'd like to see this monkey team up with Babu Frick for some serious hijinks.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Monday, 20 January 2020 17:23 (five months ago) link

this is great; i love that the monkey's mouth/voice is so clearly lynch

i'm shocked he didn't drop this in advance of the oscars so he could pick up a short subject nom (yes i know it's old but this should count as a new release)

"i would lay my life on the line for any chicken or rooster"

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 20 January 2020 20:34 (five months ago) link

oh lord the musical number

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 20 January 2020 20:40 (five months ago) link

Amazing. This kind of thing feeds my soul.

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Tuesday, 21 January 2020 01:23 (five months ago) link

hardboiled noir answers from that little guy.

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Tuesday, 21 January 2020 01:23 (five months ago) link

ARE YOU A STRONG ARMED MAN?

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Tuesday, 21 January 2020 03:09 (five months ago) link

one month passes...

Please let this be true

David Lynch creating new
limited series at Netflix with Laura Dern & Naomi Watts..... https://t.co/VEmsHlnup6

— Amanda (@DuganAmanda) March 11, 2020

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Wednesday, 11 March 2020 15:20 (three months ago) link

Oh

Boy

Unparalleled Elegance (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 11 March 2020 15:22 (three months ago) link

Protect mr lynch from Coronavirus at all costs

Garu you just posted flange (wins), Wednesday, 11 March 2020 15:23 (three months ago) link

this had better fucking be true!!!

bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Wednesday, 11 March 2020 15:25 (three months ago) link

holy moley

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 11 March 2020 15:26 (three months ago) link

My sources are telling me that Dern and Watts will be wordless cameos. 99% of screentime is going to Chrysta Bell.

bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Wednesday, 11 March 2020 15:28 (three months ago) link

xxxp Lynch got very sick working so hard on The Return so yeah, be careful.

Chris L, Wednesday, 11 March 2020 15:29 (three months ago) link

That’s fine xp

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Wednesday, 11 March 2020 15:41 (three months ago) link

Chrysta Bell is a pretty terrible actress tbh. Those line readings! That awkward demeanor! Then again probably gonna be perfect for this.

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Wednesday, 11 March 2020 22:28 (three months ago) link

There was a scene in The Return where she spends about 2 minutes just looking at a computer screen and clicking her mouse as she tries to match fingerprints. And watching her efforts to convey emotion was no joke one of my favorite things about the entire season.

crusty but malignant (Eric H.), Wednesday, 11 March 2020 22:54 (three months ago) link

Her terrible acting was one of my least favorite parts of the show

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Wednesday, 11 March 2020 22:56 (three months ago) link

She honestly grew on me a lot over the course of the season, not so much as an individual performer but as part of a comic trio with Ferrer and Lynch

bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Wednesday, 11 March 2020 22:57 (three months ago) link

two months pass...

So happy to have Lynch back on the Los Angeles weather beat
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DT_N-jtB24

Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 14 May 2020 00:59 (one month ago) link

What is it?

Bleeqwot (sic), Friday, 15 May 2020 02:55 (one month ago) link

Sorry - https://youtu.be/aTrTtzTQrv0 Flying Lotus album teaser

Bidh boladh a' mhairbh de 'n láimh fhalaimh (dowd), Friday, 15 May 2020 02:59 (one month ago) link

Man, I was watching that Flying Lotus video with headphones on and right when Lynch starts saying "FIRE IS COMING" and it gets all flashy, my wife came up behind me and poked my side.

I just about shit myself and yelped and she's still laughing.

Cow_Art, Friday, 15 May 2020 03:33 (one month ago) link

released today, on his new youtube channel:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXTLsQBJSVc

though it says copyright 2015 in the credits

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 20 May 2020 22:13 (one month ago) link

three weeks pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8pVP4xeRyk

checking stick

karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Tuesday, 16 June 2020 04:18 (two weeks ago) link

Can't argue with science

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Tuesday, 16 June 2020 04:32 (two weeks ago) link

Dear Twitter Friends,
David Lynch Theater will present RABBITS STARRING JACK tomorrow, Tuesday, June 30, 2020 at 10 A.M. PDT.https://t.co/7ArIfTArZI

— David Lynch (@DAVID_LYNCH) June 29, 2020

time is running out to pitch in $5 (Karl Malone), Monday, 29 June 2020 17:02 (six days ago) link

Lynch weather report preceded by Biden cash plea = perfect

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Monday, 29 June 2020 17:11 (six days ago) link

I checked the last week's weather reports and he doesn't ask for Biden donations in any of them - how far back are you catching up?

an, uh, razor of love (sic), Monday, 29 June 2020 20:10 (six days ago) link

We get it sic, you have an adblocker.

peace, man, Monday, 29 June 2020 20:11 (six days ago) link

new board title

lumen (esby), Monday, 29 June 2020 20:15 (six days ago) link

oh duh, I thought Morbs actually meant that Lynch was making ~clueless old white man Democrat~ appeals, and felt betrayed.

in which case: Doc, the ads you get on youtube are based on your location and the demographic info they've gathered from your own viewing choices. David Lynch is not selling ad time to Joe Biden, or to anyone. That you're getting Biden ads is the result of two different decisions by you, and none by David Lynch.

an, uh, razor of love (sic), Monday, 29 June 2020 20:34 (six days ago) link

From OP: "Looked in the Films category for a discussion about him but suprisingly there doesn't seem to be one."

Films category?! Ah, transports of sweet, sweet nostalgia.

the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Monday, 29 June 2020 20:41 (six days ago) link

i think morbs was referring to my display name (which is a joe biden email subject line from february)

time is running out to pitch in $5 (Karl Malone), Monday, 29 June 2020 21:01 (six days ago) link

could be, could be

time is running out to retweet boing.gif (sic), Monday, 29 June 2020 21:05 (six days ago) link

time has actually run out of that (as i've run out of money to match)

https://i.imgur.com/RMqs5sj.gif

time is running out to pitch in $5 (Karl Malone), Monday, 29 June 2020 21:09 (six days ago) link

[ominous boinging]

time is running out to retweet boing.gif (sic), Monday, 29 June 2020 21:14 (six days ago) link

btw sic, since i've got you on this thread (#onethread), did you see i made a sic-signal?

https://i.imgur.com/9OPiETA.jpg

i posted it on some other thread (#onethread) in tribute but you didn't see it, then i freaked out and started to worry that you didn't know it was meant out of respect

time is running out to pitch in $5 (Karl Malone), Monday, 29 June 2020 21:16 (six days ago) link

#allthreadsmatter

time is running out to retweet boing.gif (sic), Monday, 29 June 2020 21:37 (six days ago) link

i mean i wouldn't go that far

time is running out to pitch in $5 (Karl Malone), Monday, 29 June 2020 21:46 (six days ago) link

sic, i am very aware of all that shit, you tosspot

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Monday, 29 June 2020 21:55 (six days ago) link

idk, maybe take it to an Ask Dr Morbius thread or something then

time is running out to retweet boing.gif (sic), Monday, 29 June 2020 23:38 (six days ago) link

I’d like to bring the conversation back to the checking stick

k3vin k., Tuesday, 30 June 2020 03:33 (five days ago) link

when he said we don’t really need checking sticks because we have intuition, I lost it

k3vin k., Tuesday, 30 June 2020 03:33 (five days ago) link

David Lynch's late-career avuncular presence is a welcome development.


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