Joe Biden, Senator from Citibank (oops, DELAWARE), to Run for President

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~then why did you write it~

superdeep borehole (harbl), Wednesday, 23 September 2020 22:16 (three years ago) link

Is he a freemason? I hope so.

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 23 September 2020 22:19 (three years ago) link

Which is to say that he is an ordinary Democrat — more or less his explicit pitch. Perhaps Catholics have earned the right to no distinction, the privilege of blending seamlessly into the social and political landscape of the United States, the freedom of having no special moral obligations. And what a wide, barren, featureless liberty it is. In summary Catholicism, like the United States, is a land of contrasts.

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Wednesday, 23 September 2020 22:20 (three years ago) link

Oh.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 23 September 2020 22:29 (three years ago) link

lol

As Juan Guaidó speaks about the Venezuelan humanitarian crisis and the crimes against humanity perpetrated by Maduro, I reaffirm my commitment to stand with the Venezuelan people.

A Biden-Harris administration will always champion democracy and human rights around the world. https://t.co/N2uhrYOBcx

— Joe Biden (@JoeBiden) September 24, 2020

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Thursday, 24 September 2020 04:21 (three years ago) link

cool!

Simon H., Thursday, 24 September 2020 05:23 (three years ago) link

Cool, as in 'we actually don't support democracy, but coups aimed at supporting our buddies in the financial sector'?

healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Thursday, 24 September 2020 11:34 (three years ago) link

Like I'm sorry, there's no way anyone with any knowledge of US foreign policy can take that shit seriously. Just more running roughshod and exploiting innocent people in the global south, then telling the honkies back home that you understand their concerns about their new Spanish-speaking neighbors.

It's that kind of tweet that makes people like me wonder whether it's worth voting for one piece of shit over another.

healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Thursday, 24 September 2020 11:36 (three years ago) link

So you support Maduro?

sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Thursday, 24 September 2020 13:15 (three years ago) link

Do you support Guaido?

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 24 September 2020 13:28 (three years ago) link

No, probably the best thing we can do is let in more immigrants at this point. I’m not sure why Maduro gets a free pass though.

sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Thursday, 24 September 2020 13:39 (three years ago) link

A lifting of sanctions and dialogue between the two sides would be good but we have Biden supporting someone whose only interest is to be president via illegal means. Just turn to Bolivia to see how that's going.

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 24 September 2020 13:43 (three years ago) link

I don’t read that tweet as support for Guiado. It’s as much a call for elections as anything. Probably Guiado would stand a good chance if new elections happened, and he’s a horrible right-wing asshole. But otherwise there’s no democracy in Venezuela at all for the foreseeable future.

sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Thursday, 24 September 2020 13:52 (three years ago) link

The Bolivarian revolution was one that came about from popular organizing against neoliberal globalization and so-called development forced on Venezuela. The response from the US was sanctions and other isolating tactics and an intentional course of delegitimization through propaganda and murder. Almost *everything* positive that has happened in Venezuela for the past 30 or so years has been completely decimated by a US desire to grab at its resources— any other read is on the side of empire, and thus illegitimate in my book.

The US essentially created the conditions that Maduro inherited from Chavez in order to claim that Maduro and the whole of the Bolivarian revolution was not working so the US could install a right-wing, repressive puppet that would be more amenable to US-based corporations exploiting the country's resources.

I'm not a huge fan of Maduro, but I'm certainly not a fan of Guaido, and anyone who actually believe in the so-called hallowed institute of democracy shouldn't be a fan of Guaido, either.

healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Thursday, 24 September 2020 16:40 (three years ago) link

I'm really fucking tired of this idea that the US spreads liberty and democracy when mostly it spreads repression and death.

healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Thursday, 24 September 2020 16:41 (three years ago) link

I'm certainly not going to argue with that as regards our historical legacy in South and Central America.

It's extremely disappointing that the alternative to Maduro seems to be Guiado. Unfortunately choices at election time are often messy and the prevailing alternatives will offer lots of cons. My general stance is that an incrementalist foreign policy shift in terms of how we treat our southern neighbors should be in favor of encouraging more legitimate elections, fewer human rights abuses, and trying to be mostly hands-off otherwise. I don't think it's practical to just shift to a truly isolationist approach as a way of apologizing for the treatment we meted out during the Cold War. A lot of these countries will still actually want some US involvement to balance China's increasing influence in the region.

sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Thursday, 24 September 2020 16:59 (three years ago) link

In South Florida Venezuelan politics keep getting presented as unyielding binaries, and it frustrates the young.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 24 September 2020 17:02 (three years ago) link

A lot of countries could say the same about us. The US lecturing countries in the global south about human rights is laughable.

healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Thursday, 24 September 2020 17:13 (three years ago) link

I don't disagree with that either but most foreign policy is "laughable" since it's always about looking for number one while selectively supporting certain goals for certain others

sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Thursday, 24 September 2020 17:22 (three years ago) link

I mean if you want to call me cynical on this topic that's fine, all foreign policy is cynical from the outset.

sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Thursday, 24 September 2020 17:23 (three years ago) link

Cynicism is both a diss and a major compliment to canines, when you think about it.

sock solipsist (pomenitul), Thursday, 24 September 2020 17:41 (three years ago) link

phaps it's time for a prez to publicly say FDR's "he's our sonofabitch"

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 24 September 2020 17:56 (three years ago) link

If there was ever material for one of these thread titles it's "He's trying to have the Constitution of the United States swallow Clorox."

I haven't checked, but I hope the corporate twitter account of the makers of Clorox is somehow capitalizing on all this free publicity

velcro-magnon (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 24 September 2020 19:01 (three years ago) link

Clorox: Get It Over With!

get a mop and a bucket for this Well Argued Prose (Simon H.), Thursday, 24 September 2020 19:07 (three years ago) link

Interesting fact: if Biden were to win 100% of white college grads and nothing else changed, he'd win every state except West Virginia and Wyoming. https://t.co/Gmbkw4Vo0G pic.twitter.com/Op7PBvako2

— Dave Wasserman (@Redistrict) September 24, 2020

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 24 September 2020 20:31 (three years ago) link

Dave has a different definition of interesting than I'm familiar with.

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Thursday, 24 September 2020 20:32 (three years ago) link

If only white college grads voted we'd have communism and Cubans in Florida would go to Mexico etc.

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 24 September 2020 20:35 (three years ago) link

Castro did have college-educated bourgeois support

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 24 September 2020 20:37 (three years ago) link

States with fewer than 50 people per square mile should lose their franchise.

but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 24 September 2020 20:37 (three years ago) link

On this Feast Day of Our Lady of Mercy, I stand in solidarity with all defenders of human rights from Cuba, Nicaragua, and Venezuela — and pray for the freedom of all political prisoners.

— Joe Biden (@JoeBiden) September 24, 2020

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Thursday, 24 September 2020 22:01 (three years ago) link

he's been working on his shitposting!

get a mop and a bucket for this Well Argued Prose (Simon H.), Thursday, 24 September 2020 22:06 (three years ago) link

Just remembered that he’s Catholic.

sock solipsist (pomenitul), Thursday, 24 September 2020 22:11 (three years ago) link

States with fewer than 50 people per square mile should lose their franchise.

Oregon has 45 persons per square mile. I question your judgment.

the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Thursday, 24 September 2020 22:15 (three years ago) link

leadership means making tough calls

get a mop and a bucket for this Well Argued Prose (Simon H.), Thursday, 24 September 2020 22:16 (three years ago) link

If we lose all the other Nazi suckhole states, we can afford to lose Oregon (and Colorado).

but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 24 September 2020 22:18 (three years ago) link

you aint takin' Coloradie!

LaRusso Auto (Neanderthal), Thursday, 24 September 2020 22:19 (three years ago) link

And here I thought vote suppression was a Republican specialty. Eliminating the vote for all inhabitants of 13 states seems like pushing things in the wrong direction.

the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Thursday, 24 September 2020 22:20 (three years ago) link

no see for a monthly fee of $10, you can buy your premium, out of state vote, if you live in one of these unincorporated areas.

consider it like a ....

poll....

tax.....

LaRusso Auto (Neanderthal), Thursday, 24 September 2020 22:21 (three years ago) link

And here I thought vote suppression was a Republican specialty. Eliminating the vote for all inhabitants of 13 states seems like pushing things in the wrong direction.

Never leave a weapon your enemy is already using lying on the ground. Also, is it really that big a deal if the combined votes of those 13 states add up to one mid-sized East Coast city? I think maybe not.

but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 24 September 2020 22:23 (three years ago) link

My enemy is using a weapon that is just lying on the ground? What, like a paperweight, but for dirt?

the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Thursday, 24 September 2020 22:33 (three years ago) link

Or is my enemy is lying on the ground while using it? Supinely maybe?

the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Thursday, 24 September 2020 22:37 (three years ago) link

That is the stupidest thing I've ever heard (re unperson's post) in that it disenfranchises the states with some of the largest indigenous populations, for one thing.

healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Thursday, 24 September 2020 23:36 (three years ago) link

And that's just the first stupid thing about it that came to mind.

healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Thursday, 24 September 2020 23:37 (three years ago) link

Hey, they've already proved they're up for a long walk when necessary (cf. Trail of Tears), so let 'em move to real states if they want to vote.

but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 24 September 2020 23:38 (three years ago) link

**For the humorless leftier-than-thous in the room: all of this is jokes.**

but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 24 September 2020 23:41 (three years ago) link

Racist joke still racist, go fuck yourself

healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Thursday, 24 September 2020 23:41 (three years ago) link

I thought I was in the generational wars thread for a sec.

sock solipsist (pomenitul), Thursday, 24 September 2020 23:45 (three years ago) link

Can’t wait for unperson to bust out his Holocaust-centered tight five.

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Thursday, 24 September 2020 23:48 (three years ago) link

And to think that if someone made a joke about the Holocaust, they'd probably be banned in a second.

healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Thursday, 24 September 2020 23:49 (three years ago) link


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