Joe Biden, Senator from Citibank (oops, DELAWARE), to Run for President

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honestly I do feel somewhat the same way about Bernie too for that matter, although he seems like he has more on the ball

Dan S, Tuesday, 30 April 2019 00:54 (five years ago) link

I really don't want to see someone that old in office

Dan S, Tuesday, 30 April 2019 00:56 (five years ago) link

i admit it's kind of weird that we have these candidates who are like at the upper end of the human life expectancy

Trϵϵship, Tuesday, 30 April 2019 01:15 (five years ago) link

bernie is an idea as much as he is a candidate though. a bernie victory (and also a warren victory) would just mean something very powerful because they've been so uncompromising. a buttigieg or a kamala, even with a super-bernie platform, just wouldn't mean the same thing

Trϵϵship, Tuesday, 30 April 2019 01:19 (five years ago) link

I have no fucking idea what Harris, Buttigieg or Beto would do in office and neither does anyone else (aside from "mainstream" corp satisfaction). It's their brand. lol platforms

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 30 April 2019 01:39 (five years ago) link

I solemnly pledge to use my privilege to be cunty about Biden for at LEAST eight months

blokes you can't rust (sic), Tuesday, 30 April 2019 23:36 (five years ago) link

the geriatric fuckstick

blokes you can't rust (sic), Tuesday, 30 April 2019 23:36 (five years ago) link

a buttigieg or a kamala, even with a super-bernie platform, just wouldn't mean the same thing

The main problem with these guys is, anything they pay lip service to from a bernie-style platform or agenda, its not credible. The 'pivot for general' is part of the deal

One positive about Biden running is it kind of blocks Howard Schultz for a while. Not that I think he'll make a difference, but the longer he or any other balloon is blocked the better

anvil, Wednesday, 1 May 2019 07:28 (four years ago) link

also, refreshingly not that smart.

are you uh aware that the current president of the united states of america literally has brain worms

michael keaton IS jim thirlwell IN ‘foetaljuice’ (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 1 May 2019 08:15 (four years ago) link

no no you dont understand the good is actually a deadly enemy of the perfect in this tweet i shall

deemsthelarker (darraghmac), Wednesday, 1 May 2019 08:40 (four years ago) link

Really hope it's not going to be Biden, but worth pointing out that even if he wins, he is running on a public option, and that's honestly a big win for the left.

Frederik B, Wednesday, 1 May 2019 08:53 (four years ago) link

pivot to general

anvil, Wednesday, 1 May 2019 09:00 (four years ago) link

Obama supported single payer at one time. A politician supporting a single position whilst running for office is not in itself anything to feel good about

Simon H., Wednesday, 1 May 2019 10:21 (four years ago) link

was gonna say

d'ILM for Murder (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 1 May 2019 12:20 (four years ago) link

Sure, but a politician supporting a single position he can never get passed into law anyway isn't necessarily something to feel good about either.

Take the win now and then, is what I'm saying

Frederik B, Wednesday, 1 May 2019 13:20 (four years ago) link

Civilty Czar Alyssa Milano says its a mistake to focus on policies, and whats most important are values and being a good role model. Need to stop attacking the candidates and get behind Biden

Pretty surprised as I'd have thought Mayor Pete would fit that better, but presumably she'll shift to him later on. Some of these candidates are fairly interchangeable and this is Bidens turn in spotlight, not sure who is next

anvil, Wednesday, 1 May 2019 13:49 (four years ago) link

I think it's Biden from here on out

Frederik B, Wednesday, 1 May 2019 13:55 (four years ago) link

Take the win now and then, is what I'm saying

a win which simply upholds the status quo is a loss

michael keaton IS jim thirlwell IN ‘foetaljuice’ (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 1 May 2019 13:57 (four years ago) link

after Trump, what status quo?

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 1 May 2019 13:58 (four years ago) link

Biden supporting a public option is not the status quo

Frederik B, Wednesday, 1 May 2019 14:03 (four years ago) link

"a buttigieg or a kamala, even with a super-bernie platform, just wouldn't mean the same thing"

it wouldn't mean the same thing but it a Buttigieg win would mean something. I know he's centrist by today's standards based on the policies he's articulated. That said, I think it would be incredibly meaningful to gay youth of the US to have a gay man in office. It would be as important a win as Obama was for the african american community.

akm, Wednesday, 1 May 2019 14:04 (four years ago) link

i don't give a fuck about Imperial Mgr being a role model

they'll stil lall drown in 50 years

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 1 May 2019 14:07 (four years ago) link

lol I saw that Alyssa Milano stuff retweeted, what a load of shit

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 1 May 2019 14:09 (four years ago) link

That said, I think it would be incredibly meaningful to gay youth of the US to have a gay man in office.

a gay man in office who wasn't a former mckinsey ghoul who signed up for military service in the year of our lord two thousand and nine would be preferable

michael keaton IS jim thirlwell IN ‘foetaljuice’ (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 1 May 2019 14:14 (four years ago) link

Yeah, and a socialist who isn't a massive pain in the ass narcissist would be nice as well, but you take what you can

Frederik B, Wednesday, 1 May 2019 14:23 (four years ago) link

narcissist = every motherfucker who ran for prez ever

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 1 May 2019 14:24 (four years ago) link

As I said: You take what you can get

Frederik B, Wednesday, 1 May 2019 14:26 (four years ago) link

So wasn’t the handsy stuff and the Anita Hill stuff supposed to deep six Biden? Still waiting for that.

We were never Breeting Borting (President Keyes), Wednesday, 1 May 2019 14:29 (four years ago) link

Glad you're excited Fred xp

Simon H., Wednesday, 1 May 2019 14:29 (four years ago) link

NORMAL PEOPLE ARE NOT PAYING ATTENTION TIL AFTER CHRISTMAS

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 1 May 2019 14:32 (four years ago) link

x-post: I'm really not...

Frederik B, Wednesday, 1 May 2019 14:32 (four years ago) link

BECAUSE THEY WOULD KILL THEMSELVES RATHER THAN DEAL WITH THIS SEWAGE FOR 18 MONTHS

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 1 May 2019 14:33 (four years ago) link

(that was for Instant Gratification Keyes)

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 1 May 2019 14:35 (four years ago) link

Ok but pols typically suffer damage when the media is reporting on their negative shit, not 8 months later

We were never Breeting Borting (President Keyes), Wednesday, 1 May 2019 14:36 (four years ago) link

Fred I think that "x-post:" was unnecessary

d'ILM for Murder (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 1 May 2019 14:38 (four years ago) link

time for my refrain of every four years:

all these people are in my area constantly, please use your freedom to ignore the primary race if you can

Biden's going to be a few miles away from me this evening, looks like

mh, Wednesday, 1 May 2019 14:40 (four years ago) link

Morbius otm

Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 1 May 2019 14:54 (four years ago) link

So wasn’t the handsy stuff and the Anita Hill stuff supposed to deep six Biden? Still waiting for that.

― We were never Breeting Borting (President Keyes),

I don't think any of the major candidates are going to torpedoed this early in the game. Biden has major backing, he isn't going to fall at the first hurdle. We're in that period of cycling through the establishment candidates and see what sticks, He's off to a good start but they're all getting a soft soap start. Still think Kamala is the main danger,

anvil, Wednesday, 1 May 2019 17:02 (four years ago) link

I mean none of them are even really running "against" each other yet, which I think could shake a lot of this out for better or worse.

|Restore| |Restart| |Quit| (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 1 May 2019 17:54 (four years ago) link

Joe Biden Wednesday bragged about time he spent in the "hood," a place where he said he found "women of color" he helped train to do computer coding.

Speaking at a rally, the former vice president elaborated on how U.S. workers need to receive better education to prepare themselves for a changing economy, and used a visit to Detroit, Mich., to describe how businesses went to local organizations that help train minorities various coding and technical abilities.

“Through a program we had through community colleges, we can teach people how to code," Biden said. "We went out, literally into the hood, and they found, turns out, 54 (people), they happened to be all women, the vast majority were women of color, no more than a high school degree, aged 25-54, and a third of them only had GEDs.”

The use of “hood” drew nervous laughter from some Democrats in the audience. One person let out a “yikes,” but later cheered for Biden at the end of his anecdote.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/biden-brags-about-his-time-in-the-hood

Simon H., Saturday, 4 May 2019 20:01 (four years ago) link

"When asked whether Mr. Biden would pay a political price for his grilling of Anita F. Hill during the 1991 confirmation hearings for Justice Clarence Thomas, Ms. Pelosi shook her head in the negative and waved a hand dismissively."

— Tim Barker (@_TimBarker) May 4, 2019

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 5 May 2019 13:28 (four years ago) link

Pelosi also said it is best to pursue a centrist path, otherwise Trump may possibly dispute the results

anvil, Sunday, 5 May 2019 13:35 (four years ago) link

"These results are indisputable, since the opposing party is so darn centrist" is what he will plausibly say

Jeff Bathos (symsymsym), Sunday, 5 May 2019 21:28 (four years ago) link

Pelosi also said it is best to pursue a centrist path, otherwise Trump may possibly dispute the results

― anvil,

To be fair, she said center-left in the story, the headline says "center." Thrush has carried water, wittingly or not, for the GOP in the past.

Worth reading:

If Pelosi makes an argument that the Democrats need to become more centrist, such that they need to start adopting policies that are closer to GOP policies, I will be the first to call her out. But that's not the argument she's making.

— Mangy Jay (@magi_jay) May 5, 2019

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 5 May 2019 21:30 (four years ago) link

I was in a funk most of yesterday afternoon after reading the story until I realized it was 92 degrees and the pool looked awesome.

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 5 May 2019 21:31 (four years ago) link

I'm just glad she found the magic ticket that will prevent Trump from contesting the 2020 result

more seriously, I take the use of terms 'center' and 'centre-left' with a pinch of salt, given that terms are used not necessarily honestly (who was it that recently from the right of the party that said they were the real progressive? maybe it was Pelosi?)

But even outside of that, things have changed so much that there are new centers. I may be wrong but don't a majority of Republican voters now support M4A? does this kind of make Bernie a de facto centrist? I think it sorta does! raising taxes on corporations, legalization, wars - not unpopular with Republican voters. Not a traditionalist centrism, but one that reflects todays realities and, for me, makes Bernie the safest choice to beat Trump

anvil, Sunday, 5 May 2019 22:30 (four years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D5zwGVuW0AAnFvL.jpg:large

^ i am curious about what the x axis on this graph is supposed to represent exactly. is america really more conservative than it was in 19fucking60?

:∵·∴·∵: (crüt), Sunday, 5 May 2019 22:51 (four years ago) link

Bernie has always been centrist, American news media is just fucked in the brain

blokes you can't rust (sic), Sunday, 5 May 2019 23:07 (four years ago) link

i like when they call him "ultra-liberal", like he's a seasteader

difficult listening hour, Sunday, 5 May 2019 23:08 (four years ago) link

I'm just glad she found the magic ticket that will prevent Trump from contesting the 2020 result

yeah, really.

Simon H., Sunday, 5 May 2019 23:14 (four years ago) link


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