How is Billy Graham any better than the rest of the Evangelical shitheads? Why is Graham held in such higher regard?
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 17 June 2005 03:06 (eighteen years ago) link
― Trayce (trayce), Friday, 17 June 2005 03:27 (eighteen years ago) link
― oops (Oops), Friday, 17 June 2005 03:40 (eighteen years ago) link
(1) compared to the likes of pat robertson and jerry falwell, he SEEMS sane and likeable.
(2) he's friendly w/ bono, and was friendly w/ johnny cash.
(3) to paraphrase (from memory) a line from chinatown: old evangelists are like politicians, buildings, and whores -- they become more "respected" the older they get (XPOST w/ oops).
― Eisbär (llamasfur), Friday, 17 June 2005 03:41 (eighteen years ago) link
― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Friday, 17 June 2005 03:46 (eighteen years ago) link
― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Friday, 17 June 2005 03:48 (eighteen years ago) link
― Eisbär (llamasfur), Friday, 17 June 2005 03:49 (eighteen years ago) link
― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Friday, 17 June 2005 03:51 (eighteen years ago) link
― Eisbär (llamasfur), Friday, 17 June 2005 03:55 (eighteen years ago) link
And judging by his stance on segregation, I'd say he comes from a different social tradition than most prominent contemporary fundies.
― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Friday, 17 June 2005 04:00 (eighteen years ago) link
― anthony easton (anthony), Friday, 17 June 2005 04:07 (eighteen years ago) link
however,
1) compared to the likes of pat robertson and jerry falwell
this is the key bit. 'tis one thing to be a religious guy who's conservative, 'tis quite another to be a vocal reactionary fuckhead.
― kingfish (Kingfish), Friday, 17 June 2005 04:10 (eighteen years ago) link
― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Friday, 17 June 2005 04:11 (eighteen years ago) link
― j blount (papa la bas), Friday, 17 June 2005 05:49 (eighteen years ago) link
― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Friday, 17 June 2005 05:55 (eighteen years ago) link
― c@md3n (c@md3n), Friday, 17 June 2005 19:16 (eighteen years ago) link
― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Friday, 17 June 2005 19:38 (eighteen years ago) link
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 17 June 2005 21:19 (eighteen years ago) link
Prior to attending a video relay of Dr. Graham’s 60s successful Earls Court meetings my father was an atheist and my mother passive C of E. As a result of hearing Dr. Graham’s preaching they converted to evangelical protestant Christianity and like many converts became zealous and deeply devout, and remain so. I was born the following year.
Of their five children one was named after Dr. Graham and died five days later (RIP); one is now training to become a minister; one is involved in illegal Christian activity in a large East Asian country; one is estranged from mainstream Christianity whilst holding some idiosyncratic religious views of his own and I’m an atheist
Why has Graham been such a successful evangelist? I’ve attended rallies, then as a believer myself, and found him to be little more than an average preacher. I suspect my parents conversion was part of that 60s quest for ‘spiritual’ answers to life’s conundrums, only they looked towards western rather than eastern religion. It’s left them with a narrow dogmatic view of life and morality that I was raised in and reject, and sometimes feel I’m still recovering from.
― stevo (stevo), Saturday, 18 June 2005 07:00 (eighteen years ago) link
Also, is calling his latest preaching campaign "The Final CRUSADE" really the right terminology to be using?
Fucking assholes.
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 25 June 2005 01:01 (eighteen years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 25 June 2005 01:05 (eighteen years ago) link
Almost thirty years after President Nixon resigned in disgrace, the tapes continue to come out, their power to sully reputations undimmed by time.
Now it is the Rev. Billy Graham who has been made to feel the lash of his own words, secretly taped by the president who sought his spiritual counsel and used him for "cover."
We knew, long ago, of Nixon's own anti-Semitism. We heard his voice on the first wave of tapes, wanting to know how his daughters were being deployed in his re-election campaign. When staffers told him they were scheduled to appear at functions in support of the arts, he protested, "No, no, that's Jews and queers."
Nixon himself has long since lost the power to shock us, even when we hear him proposing to drop nuclear weapons on Vietnam.
But this conversation with Billy Graham is something else again. Here is the most admired and influential religious leader in America complaining to the president of the United States about the Jews and their "stranglehold" on the media, and blaming them for "all the pornography."
Even when Nixon replies that he agrees but "can't say that" in public, Graham presses the point: Yes, right, but if you get elected to a second term, then we could do something about the problem.
― Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Monday, 27 June 2005 20:55 (eighteen years ago) link
Some posturing around him this week. (I'd forgotten he was alive. Also, fuck him.)
http://goqnotes.com/34858/state-gop-wants-statue-of-billy-graham-in-u-s-capitol/
― the increasing costive borborygmi (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 8 April 2015 14:51 (nine years ago) link
Finally dead at 99.
― Simon H., Wednesday, 21 February 2018 13:40 (six years ago) link
i wish there was a hell for him and Big Dick to burn in
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 21 February 2018 14:07 (six years ago) link
the feelgood death of the day, just a pity the cunt almost batted a 100.
― calzino, Wednesday, 21 February 2018 14:34 (six years ago) link
Had no idea he was still alive.
― how's life, Wednesday, 21 February 2018 14:35 (six years ago) link
Same here. No RIPs from me for this a-hole.
― Video reach stereo bog (Tom D.), Wednesday, 21 February 2018 14:39 (six years ago) link
http://www2.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Billy+Graham+Cliff+Richard+EXP+NEW+r5ZYHkCzhSWl.jpg
― Ward Fowler, Wednesday, 21 February 2018 14:40 (six years ago) link
this was the lead item on (BBC) Radio 2 news just now
who tf cares about Billy Graham in the UK
― thirst trap your hare (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 21 February 2018 14:42 (six years ago) link
I thought the revive would be for the real Billy Graham
― Brad C., Wednesday, 21 February 2018 14:45 (six years ago) link
xpShit, I can remember Billy Graham posters everywhere in the 80's when he was making a UK appearance. There would be sold out stadiums of god-botherers turning out for him during his UK "crusades".
― calzino, Wednesday, 21 February 2018 14:55 (six years ago) link
He made a pretty big impact in the UK, in the 50s and 60s at least.
― Video reach stereo bog (Tom D.), Wednesday, 21 February 2018 15:18 (six years ago) link
he was still filling Wembley in the 80's, he was almost bigger than Sheffield Wednesday!
― calzino, Wednesday, 21 February 2018 15:32 (six years ago) link
in good company then
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/23/09/c3/2309c3168522a46ee8e833d8ba34bab7.jpg
― jamiesummerz, Wednesday, 21 February 2018 15:35 (six years ago) link
if anyone has videos of the 'dance' segment of that event, please post
My grandma loved Billy Graham, and I can remember my parents watching televised crusades in the 60s/70s. My mom's still pretty religious, but thinks Graham went senile in later years. And she doesn't like his son Franklin at all.
― Supporters Fear Dan's Post Will Lack The Edge They Love (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 21 February 2018 15:38 (six years ago) link
pic.twitter.com/yYa3d7Td45— da share z0ne (@dasharez0ne) February 21, 2018
i didn't realize that mike pence's fucked up thing where he can't be alone with a woman without being tempted by sex comes straight from billy graham
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billy_Graham_rule
― i remember the corned beef of my childhood (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 21 February 2018 16:43 (six years ago) link
well I know it didn't come from Elmer Gantry.
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 21 February 2018 16:44 (six years ago) link
lmaooooo da Share Z0ne otm as always
― frogbs, Wednesday, 21 February 2018 17:54 (six years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBK7Zpdh-N8
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 21 February 2018 18:14 (six years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BEa_DqbEYE&feature=youtu.be
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 21 February 2018 18:45 (six years ago) link
and the trolling award goes to
I am hearing that on his deathbed #BillyGraham received the light of Islam and unhesitatingly recited the Shahāda. Even now he looks down on the Ummah from the gardens of Jannah. Truly there is no god but God, and Mohammed is his prophet!— Sleeping with the Anime (@SeanRMoorhead) February 21, 2018
― Simon H., Thursday, 22 February 2018 20:22 (six years ago) link
hah!
― calzino, Thursday, 22 February 2018 20:23 (six years ago) link
the replies to that post are fuckin priceless
― NEW CHIMP THREAT (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 22 February 2018 20:49 (six years ago) link
yeah, the Faithful are unshaken
stealing
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 22 February 2018 20:53 (six years ago) link
Fuck this fucking honor. I can't imagine how appalled Rosa Parks' family is. (Really, anyone who knows of Rosa Parks.)
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/trump-honors-rev-billy-grahams-extraordinary-life/article/2650274
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 28 February 2018 17:15 (six years ago) link