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So it seems that Rainer doesn't have his own thread... I recently got one (of the two) DVD boxsets and I'm thoroughly enjoying this. Packaging and extra material = thumbs up-ah

The Emancipation of Baaderonixx (KERERU 4 LIFE!) (Fabfunk), Monday, 30 May 2005 14:54 (fourteen years ago) link

Y/DA?

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 30 May 2005 15:25 (fourteen years ago) link

What even are the two boxsets? The two from Fantoma?

L'Histoire d'Eric H. (Eric H.), Monday, 30 May 2005 15:44 (fourteen years ago) link

Packaging and extra material = thumbs up-ah

'cause it's never about, you know, the movies.

L'Histoire d'Eric H. (Eric H.), Monday, 30 May 2005 15:47 (fourteen years ago) link

The two boxsets that came out recently in, at least, France and Belgium. Well the thing about the extras is that you actually do get extra movies... I was pretty happy to finally see RWF's part of 'Germany in Autumn'.

The Emancipation of Baaderonixx (KERERU 4 LIFE!) (Fabfunk), Monday, 30 May 2005 16:16 (fourteen years ago) link

(It was a joke, fwiw.)

L'Histoire d'Eric H. (Eric H.), Monday, 30 May 2005 16:30 (fourteen years ago) link

y/da?

jed_ (jed), Monday, 30 May 2005 16:40 (fourteen years ago) link

It's when Yoda wants to go incognito for his slash fiction.

"Not this crude matter...but think I that appeal it still has."

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 30 May 2005 17:45 (fourteen years ago) link

CLASSIC

j blount (papa la bas), Monday, 30 May 2005 19:02 (fourteen years ago) link

Mark E. Fassbinder

"Feel the WRATH-uh of AlexANDUH-PLATZ-UH!"

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 30 May 2005 19:35 (fourteen years ago) link

it is I little-known fact about me: I have watched Berlin Alexanderplatz all the way through...twice

Banana Nutrament (ghostface), Monday, 30 May 2005 22:00 (fourteen years ago) link

classic!

search:
Merchant of the Four Seasons
Ali: Fear Eats The Soul
Fox And His Friends
Effi Briest
The Bitter Tears of Petra Van Kant
The Marriage of Maria Braun
The Third Generation
In A Year of 13 Moons
Lili Marleen

Despair is his only English language film.

Lola, Veronika Voss and The Stationmaster's Wife got some attention in the United States during the early 80s, but they're a bit slicker and less emotionally rich than his mid-to-late 70s prime (above).

Berlin Alexanderplatz is the masterpiece, an eight (?) part TV miniseries based on Alfred Doblin's novel from the 1930s

m coleman (lovebug starski), Monday, 30 May 2005 23:41 (fourteen years ago) link

search also Satan's Brew please!

Banana Nutrament (ghostface), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 00:15 (fourteen years ago) link

Fear Eats the Soul is teh classic.
What makes him special to me is how he always managed to combine a very critical eye on human nature, while still working in a popular/accessible register. I don't think there are many of this kind around these days.

The Emancipation of Baaderonixx (KERERU 4 LIFE!) (Fabfunk), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 06:43 (fourteen years ago) link

the fall comparison is so on-point: abusive personality who lorded it over his 'band', prolific, drug-wracked.

search: lola, fear eats the soul, merchant of four seasons; destroy: lili marlene, the american soldier, chinese roulette

N_RQ, Tuesday, 31 May 2005 09:14 (fourteen years ago) link

What's so destroyable about Chinese Roulette? I'm considering going to see that one tonight.

Fassbinder would have been 60 y.o. today. Hooray, I guess.

phallocentric (desolate), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 12:17 (fourteen years ago) link

'chinese roulette' is a bit dull, i guess. i'm not as pessimistic as RWF, and although the idea of filming abstract versions of real relationships is interesting once, it can get boring -- i have no allegiance to the brechtian 'no identification' thing.

N_RQ, Tuesday, 31 May 2005 12:34 (fourteen years ago) link

Herzlichen Glückwunsch zum 60. Geburtstag, Rainer!

Ken L (Ken L), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 12:42 (fourteen years ago) link

i love 'chinese roulette'...its all about the soundtrack, and the gloss, and the coldness. funnily enough i'm not a fan of 'merchant of four seasons', he was better when he had the money to realise his ambitions rather than do scrappy little perv-sirk things. but then i do have brechtian er, 'allegiances'

oh and 'satan's brew' is awesome.

Owen Hatherley (owen), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 18:16 (fourteen years ago) link

I like Chinese Roulette too, but maybe that's because I own it for some reason and watched it enough times to get into it.

Ken L (Ken L), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 18:26 (fourteen years ago) link

has anyone here actually seen ALL of herr fasbinder's movies? like all 20,000 of them?

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 18:39 (fourteen years ago) link

i'm a total rwf novice by the way. i think i've only seen three. i really liked mother kusters goes to heaven.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 18:40 (fourteen years ago) link

I went to the MOMA theater everyday for at least a month straight back in 1997 during the big restrospective and I don't think I saw half of them.


mother kusters goes to heaven
Has anyone since the other German movie with a similar title?

Ken L (Ken L), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 18:44 (fourteen years ago) link

the only fassbinder movie i've seen is "The Marriage of Maria Braun" and i hated it.

Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 18:53 (fourteen years ago) link

>I went to the MOMA theater everyday for at least a month straight back in 1997<

Me too, Ken. Did you see Alexanderplatz there? The two lead actors showed up at the end of the screening.

The only two RWFs I really can't stand (I've seen over 30)are "Querelle" (drugs do take their toll) and "Satan's Brew" (wacky farce was not his forte, and this is the painful evidence).

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 18:56 (fourteen years ago) link

the only two RWFs I really can't stand (I've seen over 30) are "Querelle"

Talk about "unhappiness porn." Actually I thought this one was pretty hot. (Chastity does take its toll.)

L'Histoire d'Eric H. (Eric H.), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 18:58 (fourteen years ago) link

I saw Alexanderplatz there, but I don't remember seeing the actors although I do remember seeing them show up there in the documentary about the whole thing.

Ken L (Ken L), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 19:00 (fourteen years ago) link

Ams, Now is a good time to catch up with RWF since a lot of retrospectives are happening because of the 60th bday. You're not in Paris anymore, right? Centre Pompidou has a giant RWFest happening.

The Emancipation of Baaderonixx (KERERU 4 LIFE!) (Fabfunk), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 19:01 (fourteen years ago) link

Brad Davis was hot, and the lighting nice, but otherwise oyyyy. "Eashh man kills tha theeng he loooooooves..."

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 19:06 (fourteen years ago) link

Despair is based on a Nabokov novel and stars Dirk Bogarde, does it not? If it had been directed by Joseph Losey, then I might have gone to see it.

Ken L (Ken L), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 19:12 (fourteen years ago) link

I DID go to see the Matrix-like miniseries World on a Wire, which I kind of liked, although apparently I shifted in my seat once too often, as Tony Pipolo, in the seat behind mine, was prompted to say "Will you sit still for cryin' out loud!?"

Ken L (Ken L), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 20:45 (fourteen years ago) link

my friend had, in high school, some kind of picture book of the making-of "querelle." man, that freaked me out.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 22:17 (fourteen years ago) link

there's a fassbinder retro going on RIGHT NOW in chicago but i've been way too busy to see any of it. also horribly disturbing movies about dying transexuals/failed political martyrs/self-loathing drug addicts are not necessarily what i want to see straight after work.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 22:19 (fourteen years ago) link

eleven months pass...
Ha ha, I went to see "Satan's Brew" last night - it's totally insane! Next time I fall out with someone I'm going to screech "Petty bourgeois historicism!" at them. I think Kurt Raab is one of my favourite actors of all time.

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Vitbe... *pause*... Is Good Bread (Dada), Friday, 5 May 2006 10:16 (thirteen years ago) link

i'm come out and be a bit meh on this. i need to re-see his stuff perhaps. big dvd release for half of his films pretty soon.

the Enrique who acts like some kind of good taste gestapo (Enrique), Friday, 5 May 2006 10:20 (thirteen years ago) link

Recently saw his TV version of A Doll's House, Nora Helmer which is minor but of a piece with most everything else (except stuff he was utterly ill-suited for, like the sex farce of Satan's Brew).

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 5 May 2006 12:31 (thirteen years ago) link

most of his films are sex farces (without the farce).

the Enrique who acts like some kind of good taste gestapo (Enrique), Friday, 5 May 2006 12:34 (thirteen years ago) link

And without the sex

Vitbe... *pause*... Is Good Bread (Dada), Friday, 5 May 2006 12:34 (thirteen years ago) link

has anyone here actually seen ALL of herr fasbinder's movies? like all 20,000 of them?

You know, we attempted to do this once but they had a cap on how many movies you could rent out at one time at V1deo 2 G0 and slowly but surely the place's actually very impressive collection of RWF films started disappearing...so we kind of meh'ed it off and bogarted another director's collection instead. Lili Marleen is probably the one I like best when I think about it and force myself to decide.

big dvd release for half of his films pretty soon.

This is good news, cf. the first half of my post! When I go back to Amherst maybe we can work on completing our goal now.

Allyzay Rofflesbot (allyzay), Friday, 5 May 2006 13:41 (thirteen years ago) link

ah, but probably the *same* half that's been out in the states for a while!

as yet no-one's done 'the third generation' fer example.

the Enrique who acts like some kind of good taste gestapo (Enrique), Friday, 5 May 2006 13:42 (thirteen years ago) link

Hold on, I'm going away to count how many I've seen...

Vitbe... *pause*... Is Good Bread (Dada), Friday, 5 May 2006 13:43 (thirteen years ago) link

Only 24!

Querelle
Veronika Voss
Lola
Berlin Alexanderplatz
Despair
In a Year with 13 Moons
The Marriage of Maria Braun
Bolwieser
Chinese Roulette
Satan’s Brew
I Only Want You to Love Me
Fear of Fear
Faustrecht der Freiheit
Mother Küsters’ Trip to Heaven
Effi Briest
Fear Eats the Soul
The Bitter Tears of Petra von Kant
The Merchant of Four Seasons
Pioneers in Ingolstadt
The American Soldier
Beware of a Holy Whore
Rios Das Mortes
Gods of the Plague
Katzelmacher

Vitbe... *pause*... Is Good Bread (Dada), Friday, 5 May 2006 13:49 (thirteen years ago) link

But Enrique we didn't get through the available half (DVD and VHS tho, we had both goin on) due to video store indie hipster theft so still ok :D

Allyzay Rofflesbot (allyzay), Friday, 5 May 2006 13:49 (thirteen years ago) link

dada u srsly saw 'Berlin Alexanderplatz'?

kudos man.

it's fucking 28 hours long.

the Enrique who acts like some kind of good taste gestapo (Enrique), Friday, 5 May 2006 13:51 (thirteen years ago) link

It was on telly, back when telly was good. Which is also where I first saw:

Veronika Voss
Lola
Despair
The Marriage of Maria Braun
Bolwieser
Chinese Roulette
I Only Want You to Love Me
Faustrecht der Freiheit
Effi Briest
Fear Eats the Soul
The Bitter Tears of Petra von Kant
The Merchant of Four Seasons
Pioneers in Ingolstadt
The American Soldier
Beware of a Holy Whore
Rios Das Mortes
Gods of the Plague
Katzelmacher

Vitbe... *pause*... Is Good Bread (Dada), Friday, 5 May 2006 13:53 (thirteen years ago) link

Well it's not like you have to sit and watch it all in one sitting. xpost

Allyzay Rofflesbot (allyzay), Friday, 5 May 2006 13:54 (thirteen years ago) link

They showed it on Channel 4 in weekly episodes

Vitbe... *pause*... Is Good Bread (Dada), Friday, 5 May 2006 13:55 (thirteen years ago) link

it's funny cos sontag in her piece on the 'death of cinephilia' about ten years ago mentioned 'alexanderplatz' as the kind of film today's mtv-bred, michael bay-loving kids couldn't take in the cinema (as opposed to evil tv) because of its duration (which, of course, was only really take-able by semi-employed dudes like... susan sontag).

natch it was made for tv.

the Enrique who acts like some kind of good taste gestapo (Enrique), Friday, 5 May 2006 13:58 (thirteen years ago) link

Well, I don't think very many people, old or young of Michael Bay, would find it easy to sit in a theatre for 15 and a half hours, that's kind of a bit of nonsense. I mean it wasn't technically made to be sat thru straight in a theatre.

Whatever, ppl be having their rather ridiculous strawmen shocker.

Allyzay Rofflesbot (allyzay), Friday, 5 May 2006 14:03 (thirteen years ago) link

Gods of the Plague is one of my favourites.

Buff Jeckley (Tom D.), Monday, 26 March 2018 15:19 (one year ago) link

More beautiful than Love Is Colder Than Death and not as silly as The American Soldier.

Buff Jeckley (Tom D.), Monday, 26 March 2018 15:24 (one year ago) link

I liked The Merchant of Four Seasons best from that Eclipse box.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 26 March 2018 15:39 (one year ago) link

that's not in the Eclipse box, Merchant of Four Seasons has its own release. But it's my favorite Fassbinder film by far, of the 6 or 7 I've seen.

flappy bird, Monday, 26 March 2018 16:09 (one year ago) link

Eclipse box is Love is Colder Than Death, Katzelmacher, Gods of the Plague, The American Soldier, and Beware a Holy Whore.

flappy bird, Monday, 26 March 2018 16:09 (one year ago) link

I think the early films box and World on a Wire are the only Criterion Fassbinder releases I don't own.

"Minneapolis" (barf) (Eric H.), Monday, 26 March 2018 16:13 (one year ago) link

If it hasn't been mentioned, Eight Hours has the Janus logo on it, so look for a CC by year's end I guess.

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Monday, 26 March 2018 16:16 (one year ago) link

Eclipse box is Love is Colder Than Death, Katzelmacher, Gods of the Plague, The American Soldier, and Beware a Holy Whore.

― flappy bird, Monday, March 26, 2018 12:09 PM

Right! I'd rank them:

BAHW
GOTP
Love
TAS
Katzelmacher

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 26 March 2018 16:19 (one year ago) link

somehow Mother Fassbinder's short role in 8HDMaD sailed right by me! one of the grocery gossipers, i think.

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 27 March 2018 17:16 (one year ago) link

ugh I rematched The Bitter Tears of Petra Van Kant, which I bought on Blu-ray a couple years ago – I found it tedious as hell.

I expect my relationships with movies to change.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 27 March 2018 18:05 (one year ago) link

one month passes...

I'm off tomorrow, gonna watch Eight Hours.... See you next week!

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 25 May 2018 03:08 (one year ago) link

they played the whole thing at a theater here last week but i missed it. but im not spending 8 hours in a theater. they're also spreading it out over three non consecutive nights but i can't make the first night so i guess i'll just wait for the Criterion/Janus/whatever reissue.

flappy bird, Friday, 25 May 2018 05:00 (one year ago) link

three months pass...

Halfway through Eight Hours. I don't know who I like better, Grandma or Gregor--they're like the funniest movie old-people since Aunt Lotte in Stranger Than Paradise. (I know--TV, and they came first.) I wonder if Fassbinder considered shooting it in Cinemascope, just to accommodate Gottfried John's eyebrows.

clemenza, Sunday, 2 September 2018 02:54 (one year ago) link

I was a little apprehensive about seeing this. There was the length, obviously, but more in relation to my own sleep deprivation and whether I'd hold up. But more than that, I saw a dozen-plus Fassbinder films before I was 25--he was the guy whose every new film you rushed off to see if you were studying film in the early '80s, his and Scorsese's--but, except for Berlin Alexanderplatz a couple of more times--I never went back to anything after that. I just didn't know how his idiosyncrasies would hold up; some of those films I remember positively, some I doubt I'd have much use for today.

Really glad I followed through--liked pretty much the whole eight hours. The wedding party, in particular, was masterful, and there was so much humour. Of all that I could single out, I'd put Gottfried John's unwavering affection for his grandmother at the top of the list. Great soundtrack, too--I'm off in search of the Spooky Tooth song he used.

clemenza, Monday, 3 September 2018 01:55 (one year ago) link

one month passes...

I've been on a Fassbinder binge recently. I liked the Berlin Alexanderplatz miniseries, but it was very very hard going, it was so depressing (not that many of his movies aren't, just that there was 14 HOURS of this). At this point I think I would say my favorite Fassbinder films, of those I've recently seen, are

Ali: Fear Eats the Soul (maybe his best film?)
In a Year with 13 Moons
The Bitter Tears of Petra von Kant
Veronika Voss
Love is Colder than Death

there are some I haven't seen in many years so can't remember that well (Querelle, The Marriage of Maria Braun, Mother Küsters Goes to Heaven, Effi Briest). I still haven't seen Eight Hours Don't Make a Day

also liked Beware of a Holy Whore, The Merchant of Four Seasons, Fox and His Friends, Lola

Dan S, Saturday, 6 October 2018 00:44 (one year ago) link

check out The Third Generation, it is awesome and hilarious. one of his very last

flappy bird, Saturday, 6 October 2018 02:55 (one year ago) link

thanks I will

Gods of the Plague was also pretty good

Dan S, Saturday, 6 October 2018 21:50 (one year ago) link

The events in Berlin Alexanderplatz are depressing but I am not sure it hammers you with it for 14 hours straight. I'd give it another watch in a few years, for sure.

Third Generation is really really great. Only other time he made a straight political statement to the events of the day was in his section of Germany in Autumn which is really good as well.

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 6 October 2018 23:10 (one year ago) link

the epilogue to Berlin Alexanderplatz was so shockingly surreal, just amazing

all of Fassbinder's films warrant a rewatch, definitely

Dan S, Saturday, 6 October 2018 23:59 (one year ago) link

just saw that Kanopy is streaming The Marriage of Maria Braun and Effi Briest, two I haven't seen recently, planning to watch those next

Dan S, Sunday, 7 October 2018 00:24 (one year ago) link

Started it the other day... Morbius OTM re: Hanna Schygulla's least neurotic role. I love all the zooms! The fast zoom onto Joachim's face when Marion says she's single is hilarious. Great theme song, too.

flappy bird, Tuesday, 16 October 2018 22:19 (one year ago) link

three months pass...

Querelle is such a fascinating failure that I don't really know how to feel about it. The art direction and cinematography are magnificent; the set decoration reminded me of an X-rated version of the Sweethaven from Altman's Popeye, and the whole thing is shot in rich Technicolor-evoking tones that eroticize even the film's ugliest moments (of which there are many). But the story is such a muddle of dangling plot threads and characters introduced and then never paid off that its frustrating and ultimately tedious. It is well known that the studio cut a half hour from the film that Fassbinder's editor presented to them, so maybe this accounts for some of the film's mess. Less charitably, but just as likely, is that Fassbinder was in the throes of addition and was taking an approach to the Genet novel which made sense only in his drug-addled mind, and which he didn't really have the opportunity to fully realize anyway.

Timothée Charalambides (cryptosicko), Wednesday, 6 February 2019 00:52 (eight months ago) link

Bummer. Did you see it at FF?

flappy bird, Wednesday, 6 February 2019 04:30 (eight months ago) link

Nah, it was on TCM last week.

Timothée Charalambides (cryptosicko), Wednesday, 6 February 2019 04:38 (eight months ago) link

ah gotcha. they're showing a 35mm print this week and next, jealous of NYC ilxors, despite your assessment. Sounds like a drag but makes sense obviously- how does it compare to Kamikaze '89? I know he didn't direct it but he's the lead actor & iirc it was made right before he died. Looks like a fucking wreck in the stills I've seen.

flappy bird, Wednesday, 6 February 2019 04:42 (eight months ago) link

Haven't seen--or even heard of--Kamikaze '89.

Despite my objections to the film overall, I imagine Querelle looking amazing on the big screen.

Timothée Charalambides (cryptosicko), Wednesday, 6 February 2019 04:47 (eight months ago) link

just as likely, is that Fassbinder was in the throes of addition and was taking an approach to the Genet novel which made sense only in his drug-addled mind, and which he didn't really have the opportunity to fully realize anyway.

He was much much more drug addled while making "Maria Braun" and that turned out pretty good - except I don't think he was ever really 'addled' by drugs at any time.

Wee boats wobble but they don't fall down (Tom D.), Wednesday, 6 February 2019 06:59 (eight months ago) link

six months pass...

Yesterday, I had the displeasure of spending two endless hours with In a Year of 13 Moons. Pretty much everything about it was substandard, but the acting in particular was shockingly bad.

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most offffffffftm post ever

flappy bird, Thursday, 22 August 2019 05:23 (one month ago) link

I like Querelle

"I fucked him in the ass, and when I pulled out, there was shit on my cock."

flappy bird, Thursday, 22 August 2019 05:24 (one month ago) link

people are mannequins so it's okay to push them around

I loved 13 Moons. haven't seen Querelle in a while

Dan S, Thursday, 22 August 2019 06:57 (one month ago) link

one month passes...

Satan's Brew is sort of the cinematic equivalent of scratch paper, or one of those bougie "rage rooms" where you pay money to break stuff. Fascinating as a fan and equally cathartic as an artist. I think it's more than a 'sex farce,' it's very Freudian and like... trapped in the anal stage or something. I absolutely loved it.

flappy bird, Saturday, 28 September 2019 23:06 (three weeks ago) link

and it very much feels like a play

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 28 September 2019 23:09 (three weeks ago) link

The first film I saw of his was Fox And His Friends and it didn't draw me in and so I kind of avoided him

But I watched Ali last night and was blown away. I was feeling so on edge the whole movie, and so emotional, and I couldn't figure out why, at first, and then I did. I was internalizing all the racist and ageist things that were being said by the characters and it created a tension that I was SURE one of the characters must be acting inauthentically. Like, the constant stream of criticism made me as a viewer sure that something terrible was going to happen, but the only things that happened were small revelations that Emmi would at times betray her latent racism, and Ali would at times betray his latent ageism. The final plot "twist"-- the intrusion of a physical ailment-- was such a surprise, something inevitable and yet surmountable, it put their entire romance into perspective. Such an oddly tense and yet optimistic film, I guess? I loved it.

i could chug a keg of you (flamboyant goon tie included), Monday, 30 September 2019 13:37 (two weeks ago) link

Querelle! I finally watched it, thanks to the Criterion Channel. It's the kind of terrible film that only a good director could've made.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 30 September 2019 13:39 (two weeks ago) link

Satan's Brew and Querelle prob my choice for his two worst

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 30 September 2019 14:13 (two weeks ago) link

It's the kind of terrible film that only a good director could've made.

i.e. my kind of movie

Pauline Male (Eric H.), Monday, 30 September 2019 16:45 (two weeks ago) link

I wish! I admire many follies. This is a stilted, etiolated one.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 30 September 2019 16:48 (two weeks ago) link

Also, hot.

Pauline Male (Eric H.), Monday, 30 September 2019 16:51 (two weeks ago) link

Querelle is very hot but it is also a mess. Was that the only movie Fassbinder shot in 2:35 widescreen? Despair & the BRD Trilogy are 1:66.

I agree with Alfred, it's the kind of bad movie only a good/great director could make.

flappy bird, Monday, 30 September 2019 19:29 (two weeks ago) link

Eric sometimes likes good movies by terrible directors (Femme Fatale)

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 30 September 2019 20:02 (two weeks ago) link

I haven't seen any of these, priorities? (gonna borrow a couple DVDs from a friend)

Why Does Herr R. Run Amok?
Effi Briest
Fear of Fear
Mother Kusters' Trip to Heaven
Chinese Roulette
The Stationmaster's Wife / Bolwesier
Lili Marleen

afaik the rest never got a Region 1 disc release (except Whity and Rio das Mortes)

Looking through his filmography, I've never heard of Bird on a Wire or Women in New York.

flappy bird, Monday, 30 September 2019 20:39 (two weeks ago) link

Bird on a Wire is in no man's land; i haven't seen it. (44 minutes)

I remember liking Mother Kusters, Herr R and Lili Marleen quite a lot (tho the last is perhaps his most 'conventional' film). Effi Briest is a pretty long lit adap, and i frankly am foggy on it. Fear of Fear has a good rep but it's been a long time with that too.

If you liked Satan's Brew, you might as well try everything.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 30 September 2019 20:48 (two weeks ago) link

Herr R/ Fear of Fear/ Mother Kusters are my favourites from that list. I've never seen Lili Marleen and only seen the TV Bolwieser not the edited film version, and that was so long ago I can't remember much about it. Chinese Roulette and Effi Briest are good too, btw.

Let them eat Pfifferlinge an Schneckensauce (Tom D.), Monday, 30 September 2019 20:51 (two weeks ago) link

Mother Kusters' Trip to Heaven is one of his best.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 30 September 2019 20:53 (two weeks ago) link

Yes, I think so too, but so are Herr R and Fear Of Fear imo.

Let them eat Pfifferlinge an Schneckensauce (Tom D.), Monday, 30 September 2019 20:55 (two weeks ago) link

Good movies from bad directors, bad movies from good directors, bad movies from bad directors, good movies from good directors — I’ve got room in my heart for all of them. So long as they have directors.

Pauline Male (Eric H.), Monday, 30 September 2019 21:03 (two weeks ago) link

If you liked Satan's Brew, you might as well try everything.

― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius)

oh I will but I'm not gonna ask my friend if I can borrow ~10 of his OOP Fassbinder DVDs all at once, I'm thinking like 3 or 4. and like someone said upthread I sort of want to keep a few saved for later.

I didn't realize Effi Briest was so long (multiple miniseries & WOAW aside, p much all of his theatrical films are 2 hours or less).

For whatever reason the one I'm most curious about is Chinese Roulette - maybe for Anna Karina, the game itself, or the fact that it was a major turning point for him personally (iirc he hadn't done any hard drugs prior to shooting CR).

2 episodes into Berlin Alexanderplatz... just stunning that it's all first takes.

flappy bird, Monday, 30 September 2019 22:57 (two weeks ago) link

Happy birthday to The Beetle's #JohnLennon -- seen here with his beloved Aunt Mimi pic.twitter.com/UzcXmN0HOm

— Eric Allen Hatch (@ericallenhatch) October 9, 2019

flappy bird, Wednesday, 9 October 2019 17:24 (one week ago) link

LOL, similar noses!

Terry Micawber (Tom D.), Wednesday, 9 October 2019 18:08 (one week ago) link


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