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i thought this was a done deal already. they've got this new thing called "fellowship adventure group" or something. check that acronym!

s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 16:40 (sixteen years ago) link

Uhh, you're mostly right.

Mr. Harvey Weinstein (mr harvey weinstein), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 16:41 (sixteen years ago) link

they've got this new thing called "fellowship adventure group" or something.

Sounds like they're still annoyed with themselves at missing the LOTR gravy train. ;-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 16:43 (sixteen years ago) link

i know! they couldn't have missed the connotations there!

s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 16:44 (sixteen years ago) link

It was done for F9/11.

Mr. Harvey Weinstein (mr harvey weinstein), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 16:46 (sixteen years ago) link

The Weinsteins will retain control of the Dimension label, which has produced a raft of films aimed at teenagers and children, including the Scream franchise = the really really really big money

scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 16:46 (sixteen years ago) link

bob has always been the big moneymaker with dimension.

scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 16:47 (sixteen years ago) link

yeah, dimension is what kept miramax afloat all those years

s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 16:47 (sixteen years ago) link

all those lasse hallstrom movies aren't going to pay for themselves!

s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 16:49 (sixteen years ago) link

I DID IT

Dude, are you a 15 year old asian chick? (jingleberries), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 16:55 (sixteen years ago) link

Yeah, he was on ILX. Weird.

bro dudely (deangulberry), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 16:56 (sixteen years ago) link

I find his state law breaking celebration methods questionable.

Dude, are you a 15 year old asian chick? (jingleberries), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 16:58 (sixteen years ago) link

five years pass...

The Weinstein Company and Miramax -- the studio the Weinstein brothers founded and then sold -- announced a gigantic partnership deal on Thursday (via The Hollywood Reporter), agreeing to create sequels of the smash hit films that the Weinsteins produced for the studio before starting their new production company.

A number of big films are set to see second installments added to their canon: 'Shakespeare In Love,' 'Bad Santa,' 'Swingers,' 'Rounders,' 'Bridget Jones's Diary,' are some of the most famous names to be in line for the part two treatment.

buzza, Monday, 20 December 2010 18:43 (ten years ago) link

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0317198/

zvookster, Monday, 20 December 2010 18:45 (ten years ago) link

Shakespeare in Love 2? Oh yay

Square-Panted Sponge Robert (VegemiteGrrrl), Monday, 20 December 2010 19:09 (ten years ago) link

Will Hard with a Vengeance

THX THO... (Nicole), Monday, 20 December 2010 19:16 (ten years ago) link

Iambic Boogaloo

THX THO... (Nicole), Monday, 20 December 2010 19:16 (ten years ago) link

there's already a second bridget jones movie

Ward Fowler, Monday, 20 December 2010 19:17 (ten years ago) link

Shakespeare in Love 2: Havana Nights

THX THO... (Nicole), Monday, 20 December 2010 19:21 (ten years ago) link

this time it's versonal

zvookster, Monday, 20 December 2010 19:27 (ten years ago) link

Crying Game 2?

Matt Armstrong, Monday, 20 December 2010 19:32 (ten years ago) link

there's already a second bridget jones movie

Please don't remind me.

State Attorney Foxhart Cubycheck (Billy Dods), Monday, 20 December 2010 19:36 (ten years ago) link

Reindeer Games 2: Blood Sleigh

Matt Armstrong, Monday, 20 December 2010 20:49 (ten years ago) link

Rounders: Legacy

da croupier, Monday, 20 December 2010 20:54 (ten years ago) link

Chocolat 2: The Squeakque

a nan, a bal, an anal ― (abanana), Monday, 20 December 2010 21:55 (ten years ago) link

Good Will Hunting 2: Open Season

Square-Panted Sponge Robert (VegemiteGrrrl), Monday, 20 December 2010 22:15 (ten years ago) link

would watch a bad santa sequel

cereal bad boy (haitch), Monday, 20 December 2010 23:35 (ten years ago) link

Bad Santa 2: The Baddening

Square-Panted Sponge Robert (VegemiteGrrrl), Monday, 20 December 2010 23:36 (ten years ago) link

still lolling at "Iambic Boogaloo"

Square-Panted Sponge Robert (VegemiteGrrrl), Monday, 20 December 2010 23:37 (ten years ago) link

What's next? Henry 5?!

I Am Kurious Assange (polyphonic), Monday, 20 December 2010 23:37 (ten years ago) link

Rounders 2: What Goes A Rounders Comes Back A Rounders Again

zvookster, Monday, 20 December 2010 23:38 (ten years ago) link

Seriously, Dude, Where's My Bard?

zvookster, Monday, 20 December 2010 23:39 (ten years ago) link

Shakespeare In Love 2: Rotten In Denmark

Square-Panted Sponge Robert (VegemiteGrrrl), Tuesday, 21 December 2010 00:06 (ten years ago) link

three years pass...

Just finished Peter Biskind's Down and Dirty Pictures: Miramax, Sundance, and the Rise of Independent Film. (Awful title.) Was actually published only a couple of months before the event that started this thread--he gives no indication that that's around the corner. Anyway, as someone who's mostly ignorant about the business end of things, I now know more about these people than I ever wanted to know, and I'm amazed a single movie ever gets made.

clemenza, Monday, 7 July 2014 22:57 (seven years ago) link

three years pass...

This is...something.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/10/05/us/statement-from-harvey-weinstein.html

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 5 October 2017 18:49 (three years ago) link

I want to buy the movie rights

— rose mcgowan (@rosemcgowan) October 4, 2017

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 5 October 2017 18:56 (three years ago) link

that statement really keeps you guessing huh

ATTACK MY RUSTY TOOLBOX (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 5 October 2017 18:57 (three years ago) link

how the fuck can his lawyer let him make that statement.

He's always been an asshole of the highest order.

Randall Jarrell (dandydonweiner), Thursday, 5 October 2017 19:53 (three years ago) link

the odds of decades worth of actors, actresses, directors, fellow producers, or any number of people not knowing about this stuff seems to me next to nil.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 5 October 2017 19:57 (three years ago) link

Lisa Bloom, one of Weinstein’s attorneys who specializes in sexual harassment cases, adds that she has been advising him on “gender and power dynamics” for the past year, calling him “an old dinosaur learning new ways.” She adds that she’s “explained to him that due to the power difference between a major studio head like him and most others in the industry, whatever his motives, some of his words and behaviors can be perceived as inappropriate, even intimidating.”

http://catholicap.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/skd229428sdc.jpg

nomar, Thursday, 5 October 2017 19:59 (three years ago) link

so this guy's got presumably top dollar lawyers and crisis management teams working for him and... that's his statement?

"not used to this new day and age when leveraging your power to coerce young women eager to get a foot in the door into sleeping with you isn't cool. i'm workin' on it. also fuck the NRA and Trump, right guys?!"

circa1916, Thursday, 5 October 2017 20:00 (three years ago) link

oh i forgot about the Jay-Z quote from 4:44

circa1916, Thursday, 5 October 2017 20:00 (three years ago) link

HEY GUYS LETS SHOW HOW CULTURALLY AWARE I AM

Randall Jarrell (dandydonweiner), Thursday, 5 October 2017 20:01 (three years ago) link

Weinstein told NYT he "sincerely apologize[s]" for his behavior, is going on leave.
His lawyer tells Hollywood Reporter he is suing us.

— Nick Confessore (@nickconfessore) October 5, 2017

Monster fatberg (Phil D.), Thursday, 5 October 2017 20:02 (three years ago) link

wow what a total POS

that "apology" reads like a horrendous parody

-_- (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 5 October 2017 20:34 (three years ago) link

Harvey the Hutt

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 5 October 2017 20:42 (three years ago) link

surprised it wasn't written in crayon a la tarantino scripts

Οὖτις, Thursday, 5 October 2017 20:51 (three years ago) link

Mh’s explanation is useful, but I’d add to it. The term puts the focus on the person being accused and inverts the actors and victims in a really perverse way, to the point that it flattens out the actual happening(s) and the pain caused by it(people talking about what has happened to them) to this very cynical sort of “so and so got targeted by these accusations”. It’s a really unhelpful term at best and I’d encourage those of you determined to use it who you think you’re doing it for.

Scamp Granada (gyac), Sunday, 2 May 2021 08:52 (four months ago) link

*to ask who you think, gah

Scamp Granada (gyac), Sunday, 2 May 2021 09:02 (four months ago) link

I'd see the focus being switched to the accused as a good thing though, it takes it as read that there's a preponderance of accounts against him and short-circuits any he-said-she-said.

I mean, I'll be happy if and when it gets to the point where a single accuser has more weight than the accused, but the power imbalance in the stories itt suggests that'll take more than parity.

Andrew Farrell, Sunday, 2 May 2021 09:37 (four months ago) link

Four women sexually harassed and bullied by Clarke on the set of Dr Who, before he began writing/directing/producing, have also given accounts to the Guuardian. His legal responses continue to be persuasive.

...another former runner on Doctor Who alleges Clarke sexually harassed her and another female coworker in a bar at the Holland House Hotel in the mid-2000s in Cardiff, following a work event. When the women rejected Clarke’s advances, she alleges, he became “rude” and “aggressive”. The following day, she said Clarke spread false rumours about both women on set.

Clarke strongly denied the allegation. His lawyers said there would have been no real need or purpose for him to be in the hotel bar because he does not drink.

bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Friday, 7 May 2021 22:58 (four months ago) link

I really fucking hate this. Dude was set up to be the fucking Golden Child and he wiped his ass all over the opportunity.

80's hair metal , and good praise music ! (DJP), Saturday, 8 May 2021 17:03 (four months ago) link

DJP otm

disgusting entitled toxic bullshit

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 8 May 2021 17:34 (four months ago) link

when these are the "further reading" headlines about you in one week

https://i.imgur.com/bvd3fXv.jpg

your best move is probably to respond to an ex's accusation of “abusive, manipulative, and predatory” behaviour with instagram posts saying things like "do you know what’s ‘predatory behaviour’? When we were having a fuckin’ threesome with your fuckin’ weird mate from the fuckin’ bar and I was having a fuckin’ diarrhea shit on the toilet and you were trying to kick the fuckin’ door in to fuckin’ sit on my dick." and "I’m confused as to where the predatory thing is coming from. What even is the accusation?… If it’s the predatory thing, it’s false. Also, I was 29 at the time. What’s the problem with trying to find a 19-year-old?"

bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Wednesday, 19 May 2021 06:36 (four months ago) link

There has been a mini reckoning with harassment/discrimination in the beer industry in the last week. A female brewer began soliciting stories from women and POC of issues they have faced working in the industry and started receiving an avalanche of stories related mostly through Instagram. Specific bad actors were named and shit popped off:

https://www.goodbeerhunting.com/sightlines/2021/5/18/beer-industry-allegations-legal-vulnerability

Deicide at Chuck E. Cheese (PBKR), Wednesday, 19 May 2021 11:40 (four months ago) link

wasn't sure whether to put this here or in the "shit that looks like an onion article" thread

Kevin Spacey ‘to play sex abuse investigator’ in acting comeback https://t.co/jdyLttrySq

— The Independent (@Independent) May 24, 2021

Roz, Monday, 24 May 2021 08:29 (three months ago) link

.....

Feta Van Cheese (Neanderthal), Monday, 24 May 2021 14:49 (three months ago) link

Given how #metoo was received in Italy, I can't say I'm surprised.

pomenitul, Monday, 24 May 2021 14:53 (three months ago) link

two months pass...

Is this the movie/metoo thread? This is tangential, but interesting:

Does my name belong to me? My face? What about my life? My story? Why does my name refer to events I had no hand in? I return to these questions because others continue to profit off my name, face, & story without my consent. Most recently, the film #STILLWATER.

/ a thread

— Amanda Knox (@amandaknox) July 29, 2021

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 30 July 2021 20:48 (one month ago) link

Nice how she gets a plug in for her podcast there

Tracer Hand, Saturday, 31 July 2021 15:14 (one month ago) link

cmon she has been through total hell and then some -- for some movie to use her story and publicize it with her name without her consent is gross and very wrong imo

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Saturday, 31 July 2021 19:08 (one month ago) link

I think I’d have more sympathy if she hadn’t falsely accused her (black) boss at the bar she worked at of being the murderer.. and making up details to support that story. It completely wrecked the guy’s life. She was convicted of that. Is that “morally vile”? I’m going to say yes. But Patrick Lumumba doesn’t have a podcast and doesn’t do “threads”.. so who tells that story (and does Knox get final sign-off??)

Tracer Hand, Sunday, 1 August 2021 14:51 (one month ago) link

I guess I forgot about that part. I can’t help but have some sympathy for her even though she’s clearly some variety of asshole.

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Sunday, 1 August 2021 15:09 (one month ago) link

Was this the accusation that was after days of abusive interrogation without a lawyer and that was basically concocted by the police themselves?

Believe me, grow a lemon tree. (ledge), Sunday, 1 August 2021 15:13 (one month ago) link

Hoo boy

Tracer Hand, Sunday, 1 August 2021 16:07 (one month ago) link

Do enlighten me! I didn't think "it's the police who are the bad guys" was such a hot take but I'm happy to be proved wrong.

Believe me, grow a lemon tree. (ledge), Sunday, 1 August 2021 16:30 (one month ago) link

At this point we should probably create a bot that ingests all of truejustice.org and a bot that ingests all of amandaknox.com and have them collaborate on a DLC of Ace Attorney

I can’t imagine what it’s like to be her, or Monica Lewinsky, or anybody else “embroiled” in a huge public scandal. But I think people do get to make movies about your story, or based on your story, without asking your blessing probably.

Tracer Hand, Sunday, 1 August 2021 16:48 (one month ago) link

Legally speaking, I think Knox has become a "public figure" and therefore has no enforceable claim over the publicly available details of her story, including use of her name, so long as it is not implied she has approved of or endorsed its use. Her only valid claim is confined to the ethics of the situation. If the film makers didn't even reach out to seek her opinion about the script, it's kind of shitty of them.

it is to laugh, like so, ha! (Aimless), Sunday, 1 August 2021 18:10 (one month ago) link

Why would they need her opinion on their script?

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Sunday, 1 August 2021 18:22 (one month ago) link

It's a courtesy, not a "need". If she objected to some aspect that wasn't vital to the story, they could alter it easily enough. When you're dropping $100 million on a film project where every detail is scrutinized from every angle, it's not hard to include that step.

it is to laugh, like so, ha! (Aimless), Sunday, 1 August 2021 18:33 (one month ago) link

xpost They don't, but in her epic thread she quotes a story that claims McCarthy said he "couldn’t help but imagine how it would feel to be in Knox’s shoes" and asked "Who are the people that are visiting (her), and what are those relationships? Like, what’s the story around the story?” And she's basically saying, dude, I'm right here, you could have asked me rather than just riffing on my life. It's kind of like that crazy Cat Person tale: a ton of very specific stuff was lifted directly from this stranger's life, but a bunch of stuff was totally made up, too.

I assume this movie has the usual disclaimer "The story, all names, characters, and incidents portrayed in this production are fictitious. No identification with actual persons (living or deceased), places, buildings, and products is intended or should be inferred," but that's weird if the writer/director said he started the movie with Knox in mind but then didn't contact her and ask her for permission. Is that disclaimer not on biopics and projects that *are* based on persons, living or deceased?

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 1 August 2021 18:40 (one month ago) link

This just strikes me as a ‘ripped from the headlines’ Law and Order type deal where I sincerely doubt the writers did a lot of calling up of the fictionally portrayed people

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Sunday, 1 August 2021 19:55 (one month ago) link

Theatrical release films spend a lot more time in pre-production than that kind of television episode.

it is to laugh, like so, ha! (Aimless), Sunday, 1 August 2021 20:31 (one month ago) link

New Tao Lin novel came out today, and probably a revival of his likely past abuses will follow.

suddenly tao lin is everywhere again, including granta. once again the publishing industry/literary world is happy to ignore credible accounts of his abuse

— charlotte geater (@tambourine) July 29, 2021

... (Eazy), Friday, 6 August 2021 02:17 (one month ago) link

The difference is now there’s not enough ilxors left to get a clusterfuck going about whether his books are good I guess

Clara Lemlich stan account (silby), Friday, 6 August 2021 03:38 (one month ago) link

My first thought was “maybe they’ll drop the very annoying closing up the plug bag theme bit on comedy bang bang”

Clara Lemlich stan account (silby), Saturday, 14 August 2021 02:03 (one month ago) link

This is a complicated situation, defined as grooming but with no sexual intent, that will probably create more definitive boundaries between performers and younger fans.

In light of the allegations against Alice Ripley, a conversation about interactions between theatre artists and fans has erupted online.

But there are aspects to this story that many seem to be missing, especially within the theatre communities.

— OnStage Blog (@OnstageBlog) August 24, 2021

... (Eazy), Tuesday, 24 August 2021 21:47 (three weeks ago) link

I love Alice Ripley. this is rough :(

Duke Detain (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 24 August 2021 21:49 (three weeks ago) link

spend any time on social media following any kind of celebrity and the mental instability of lots of young people who interact with those celebrities will make you shudder. This is probably more pronounced these days with legions of weirdo 'stans' who frankly should be jettisoned into the sun; but even back then, from what I just read, Ripley should have known better and not engaged.

akm, Tuesday, 24 August 2021 23:43 (three weeks ago) link

Alice Ripley seems to have exercised very bad judgment and relished the attention of these young “fans,” but “grooming without sexual intent” seems like a weird charge

treeship., Tuesday, 24 August 2021 23:52 (three weeks ago) link

I’m glad the victims came forward though. This is a more ambiguous type of abuse but one that is probably common.

treeship., Tuesday, 24 August 2021 23:59 (three weeks ago) link

i've been following the story and that was a really interesting article that helped clarify a lot of questions I had.

Alice Ripley seems to have exercised very bad judgment and relished the attention of these young “fans,” but “grooming without sexual intent” seems like a weird charge

― treeship., Wednesday, 25 August 2021 00:52 (eleven hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

In the initial accusations against Ripley, she was accused of grooming, which is a term commonly used for manipulative behaviors that abusers use to gain access to a potential victim, coerce them to agree to the abuse, and reduce the risk of being caught.

I think this makes sense as a definition of grooming that doesn't necessarily have to include sexual intent, it could cover e.g. getting someone to keep stolen goods in their home, or lend large sums of money - there is an ulterior motive to the efforts to form an emotional relationship, and the motive is to get the other person to do something damaging to themselves that they wouldn't otherwise be willing to do - but I don't think the article really makes a good case that this is what's happening in this situation?

Did Alice Ripley allegedly groom these young people in hopes of sexually abusing them? It doesn’t appear that way. Did she apparently use the tool of grooming for other purposes with these fans? That’s an entirely different discussion.

what exactly are the "other purposes" that Ripley was allegedly using the tool of grooming for? what was her ulterior motive? the article implies that she formed these relationships with fans to gratify her ego, but that seems hazy as a justification for calling it grooming. In the definition above the 'abuse' is delineated as something distinct from the 'grooming', the grooming is to facilitate the abuse, but in this case it seems like the accusers are arguing that what they call the grooming was in itself 'abusive'?

soref, Wednesday, 25 August 2021 11:28 (three weeks ago) link

Yeah “grooming” might be the wrong word. It sounds like she might be emotionally immature and talked to these kids as if they were her peers. I can definitely see how they felt violated by this as she was ignoring boundaries.

treeship., Wednesday, 25 August 2021 11:44 (three weeks ago) link

the article makes it pretty clear that she would unceremoniously 'dump' them after long, emotionally intimate relationships. imo both the emotionally intimate relationships and the dumping are abuses of the power she holds as an adult over children ffs.

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 25 August 2021 11:53 (three weeks ago) link

and when i say abuses i mean like, proper, full-on emotional damage that it could take years to recover from

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 25 August 2021 11:54 (three weeks ago) link

Yeah as I said earlier it is a kind of abuse—just one we haven’t seen discussed much in the metoo era.

treeship., Wednesday, 25 August 2021 11:56 (three weeks ago) link

play whatever sick ego games you want with other adults - though you probably shouldn't! - but imagining my, i dunno 13-y-o as having identity questions and then latching onto a revered celebrity who actually texts them and invites them over, it's unthinkable really

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 25 August 2021 11:56 (three weeks ago) link

Ugh

Hitsville Ukase (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 25 August 2021 12:34 (three weeks ago) link

finished the Daily Beast article just now, seems pretty clear that Ripley is not being truthful in her denial that she only met fans briefly at the stage door or very occasionally had dinners with them, when DB has seen photos of her with one of these women in San Diego and SF (the woman lived in NYC). I was thinking about what kind of pathology made sense of this and decided that Ripley just sounds like a terrible person, no pathology needed.

akm, Wednesday, 25 August 2021 14:45 (three weeks ago) link

Ron Jeremy indicted on 34 counts of sexual assault.

Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 25 August 2021 23:55 (three weeks ago) link

Seems like this should spark a reckoning with the porn industry. There are massive abuses there but people don’t like to think about it.

treeship., Thursday, 26 August 2021 19:29 (three weeks ago) link

two weeks pass...

Rose McGowan has gone over the edge

Larry Elder presser with Rose McGowan kicking off now pic.twitter.com/Hae9zUeogH

— Dave Weigel (@daveweigel) September 12, 2021

akm, Monday, 13 September 2021 15:59 (one week ago) link

Yeah I shared that in the monthly politics thread yesterday, so unexpected. So her argument seems to be that too many Democrats ignored her claims and accusations (which is totally in the realm of possibility) that she has no choice but to now be a Republican and stump for mini-Trumps that have been credibly accused of sexual harassment?

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 13 September 2021 16:35 (one week ago) link

*sigh*

Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 13 September 2021 17:19 (one week ago) link


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