Weinsteins step down as Miramax CEOs

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i thought this was a done deal already. they've got this new thing called "fellowship adventure group" or something. check that acronym!

s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 16:40 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Uhh, you're mostly right.

Mr. Harvey Weinstein (mr harvey weinstein), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 16:41 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

they've got this new thing called "fellowship adventure group" or something.

Sounds like they're still annoyed with themselves at missing the LOTR gravy train. ;-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 16:43 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

i know! they couldn't have missed the connotations there!

s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 16:44 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

It was done for F9/11.

Mr. Harvey Weinstein (mr harvey weinstein), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 16:46 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

The Weinsteins will retain control of the Dimension label, which has produced a raft of films aimed at teenagers and children, including the Scream franchise = the really really really big money

scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 16:46 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

bob has always been the big moneymaker with dimension.

scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 16:47 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

yeah, dimension is what kept miramax afloat all those years

s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 16:47 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

all those lasse hallstrom movies aren't going to pay for themselves!

s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 16:49 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I DID IT

Dude, are you a 15 year old asian chick? (jingleberries), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 16:55 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Yeah, he was on ILX. Weird.

bro dudely (deangulberry), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 16:56 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I find his state law breaking celebration methods questionable.

Dude, are you a 15 year old asian chick? (jingleberries), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 16:58 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

five years pass...

The Weinstein Company and Miramax -- the studio the Weinstein brothers founded and then sold -- announced a gigantic partnership deal on Thursday (via The Hollywood Reporter), agreeing to create sequels of the smash hit films that the Weinsteins produced for the studio before starting their new production company.

A number of big films are set to see second installments added to their canon: 'Shakespeare In Love,' 'Bad Santa,' 'Swingers,' 'Rounders,' 'Bridget Jones's Diary,' are some of the most famous names to be in line for the part two treatment.

buzza, Monday, 20 December 2010 18:43 (seven years ago) Permalink

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0317198/

zvookster, Monday, 20 December 2010 18:45 (seven years ago) Permalink

Shakespeare in Love 2? Oh yay

Square-Panted Sponge Robert (VegemiteGrrrl), Monday, 20 December 2010 19:09 (seven years ago) Permalink

Will Hard with a Vengeance

THX THO... (Nicole), Monday, 20 December 2010 19:16 (seven years ago) Permalink

Iambic Boogaloo

THX THO... (Nicole), Monday, 20 December 2010 19:16 (seven years ago) Permalink

there's already a second bridget jones movie

Ward Fowler, Monday, 20 December 2010 19:17 (seven years ago) Permalink

Shakespeare in Love 2: Havana Nights

THX THO... (Nicole), Monday, 20 December 2010 19:21 (seven years ago) Permalink

this time it's versonal

zvookster, Monday, 20 December 2010 19:27 (seven years ago) Permalink

Crying Game 2?

Matt Armstrong, Monday, 20 December 2010 19:32 (seven years ago) Permalink

there's already a second bridget jones movie

Please don't remind me.

State Attorney Foxhart Cubycheck (Billy Dods), Monday, 20 December 2010 19:36 (seven years ago) Permalink

Reindeer Games 2: Blood Sleigh

Matt Armstrong, Monday, 20 December 2010 20:49 (seven years ago) Permalink

Rounders: Legacy

da croupier, Monday, 20 December 2010 20:54 (seven years ago) Permalink

Chocolat 2: The Squeakque

a nan, a bal, an anal ― (abanana), Monday, 20 December 2010 21:55 (seven years ago) Permalink

Good Will Hunting 2: Open Season

Square-Panted Sponge Robert (VegemiteGrrrl), Monday, 20 December 2010 22:15 (seven years ago) Permalink

would watch a bad santa sequel

cereal bad boy (haitch), Monday, 20 December 2010 23:35 (seven years ago) Permalink

Bad Santa 2: The Baddening

Square-Panted Sponge Robert (VegemiteGrrrl), Monday, 20 December 2010 23:36 (seven years ago) Permalink

still lolling at "Iambic Boogaloo"

Square-Panted Sponge Robert (VegemiteGrrrl), Monday, 20 December 2010 23:37 (seven years ago) Permalink

What's next? Henry 5?!

I Am Kurious Assange (polyphonic), Monday, 20 December 2010 23:37 (seven years ago) Permalink

Rounders 2: What Goes A Rounders Comes Back A Rounders Again

zvookster, Monday, 20 December 2010 23:38 (seven years ago) Permalink

Seriously, Dude, Where's My Bard?

zvookster, Monday, 20 December 2010 23:39 (seven years ago) Permalink

Shakespeare In Love 2: Rotten In Denmark

Square-Panted Sponge Robert (VegemiteGrrrl), Tuesday, 21 December 2010 00:06 (seven years ago) Permalink

three years pass...

Just finished Peter Biskind's Down and Dirty Pictures: Miramax, Sundance, and the Rise of Independent Film. (Awful title.) Was actually published only a couple of months before the event that started this thread--he gives no indication that that's around the corner. Anyway, as someone who's mostly ignorant about the business end of things, I now know more about these people than I ever wanted to know, and I'm amazed a single movie ever gets made.

clemenza, Monday, 7 July 2014 22:57 (three years ago) Permalink

three years pass...

This is...something.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/10/05/us/statement-from-harvey-weinstein.html

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 5 October 2017 18:49 (six months ago) Permalink

I want to buy the movie rights

— rose mcgowan (@rosemcgowan) October 4, 2017

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 5 October 2017 18:56 (six months ago) Permalink

that statement really keeps you guessing huh

ATTACK MY RUSTY TOOLBOX (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 5 October 2017 18:57 (six months ago) Permalink

how the fuck can his lawyer let him make that statement.

He's always been an asshole of the highest order.

Randall Jarrell (dandydonweiner), Thursday, 5 October 2017 19:53 (six months ago) Permalink

the odds of decades worth of actors, actresses, directors, fellow producers, or any number of people not knowing about this stuff seems to me next to nil.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 5 October 2017 19:57 (six months ago) Permalink

Lisa Bloom, one of Weinstein’s attorneys who specializes in sexual harassment cases, adds that she has been advising him on “gender and power dynamics” for the past year, calling him “an old dinosaur learning new ways.” She adds that she’s “explained to him that due to the power difference between a major studio head like him and most others in the industry, whatever his motives, some of his words and behaviors can be perceived as inappropriate, even intimidating.”

http://catholicap.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/skd229428sdc.jpg

nomar, Thursday, 5 October 2017 19:59 (six months ago) Permalink

so this guy's got presumably top dollar lawyers and crisis management teams working for him and... that's his statement?

"not used to this new day and age when leveraging your power to coerce young women eager to get a foot in the door into sleeping with you isn't cool. i'm workin' on it. also fuck the NRA and Trump, right guys?!"

circa1916, Thursday, 5 October 2017 20:00 (six months ago) Permalink

oh i forgot about the Jay-Z quote from 4:44

circa1916, Thursday, 5 October 2017 20:00 (six months ago) Permalink

HEY GUYS LETS SHOW HOW CULTURALLY AWARE I AM

Randall Jarrell (dandydonweiner), Thursday, 5 October 2017 20:01 (six months ago) Permalink

Weinstein told NYT he "sincerely apologize[s]" for his behavior, is going on leave.
His lawyer tells Hollywood Reporter he is suing us.

— Nick Confessore (@nickconfessore) October 5, 2017

Monster fatberg (Phil D.), Thursday, 5 October 2017 20:02 (six months ago) Permalink

wow what a total POS

that "apology" reads like a horrendous parody

-_- (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 5 October 2017 20:34 (six months ago) Permalink

Harvey the Hutt

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 5 October 2017 20:42 (six months ago) Permalink

surprised it wasn't written in crayon a la tarantino scripts

Οὖτις, Thursday, 5 October 2017 20:51 (six months ago) Permalink

the thing is, with threads like that above, they're contaminated with either discredited stuff (people still using CDAN as a source despite their being debunked years ago) or outright conspiracy theory (people unironically bringing the Illuminati in)

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Wednesday, 28 March 2018 17:28 (three weeks ago) Permalink

sure, i mean there's literally a 'some of this stuff is fiction' disclaimer at the bottom of every page. anyway here's some more recent coverage

https://www.vanityfair.com/style/2016/10/crazy-days-and-nights-enty-interview

https://www.thedailybeast.com/whos-next-the-mysterious-blind-item-king-who-exposed-weinstein-spacey-and-lauer-before-the-media

maura, Wednesday, 28 March 2018 17:31 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Like, I'm saying, that if someone can successfully connect the dots from the last 20 years of Perez Hilton/TMZ "hahahaha Britney/Lindsay/Amanda is such a TRAINWRECK" to "Children who suffer from sexual abuse often have tumultuous adulthoods and also that abuse came from inside the industry" it might cause some amount of reflection on just what the fuck we've been doing

otm + corey haim :(

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 28 March 2018 17:32 (three weeks ago) Permalink

no I saw it somewhere else. but maybe it was fake, dunno. let's think about this though: either there has been a concerted effort for years to bring down dan schneider fueled by the internet and people who hate him; or he's a fucking creep. his work speaks for itself and certainly lends credence to the latter.

akm, Wednesday, 28 March 2018 17:32 (three weeks ago) Permalink

amanda bynes did tweet (then retract the tweets) about her dad being abusive, maybe that's what you're thinking of

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Wednesday, 28 March 2018 17:33 (three weeks ago) Permalink

like most gossip sites, CDAN gets things right sometimes. And the Post has been in the bag with publicists for years, so it's reasonable for wags and pimps to find useful tools to wage public battles over "truth" or "facts".

It was lore for a long time that they don't hold up because a) there wasn't much case law a couple of decades ago, b) it's still expensive for a company to sue, and c) enforceability/damages is more obvious in some industries than others. So, it's not that they don't "hold up" as much as most of the time, it's not worth it for a company to pursue it. If the damages are obvious however...

xp

Milking the Soft Power Dividend (dandydonweiner), Wednesday, 28 March 2018 17:34 (three weeks ago) Permalink

tbh I looked at that CDAN site once this week and most of the blind items are vague enough that they could apply to a handful of people

maybe there's a strong nostradamus/stopped clock effect thing going on

mh, Wednesday, 28 March 2018 18:17 (three weeks ago) Permalink

"This B list former child star recently got out of rehab, but her friends think she's headed back"

mh, Wednesday, 28 March 2018 18:18 (three weeks ago) Permalink

"I sense that you are worried about a loved one or relative whose name includes the letter... E"

when worlds collide I'll see you again (Jon not Jon), Wednesday, 28 March 2018 18:49 (three weeks ago) Permalink

An aside, but would be interesting to interview Michael Musto about the past year and blind items.

... (Eazy), Wednesday, 28 March 2018 19:59 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Would love to know how he ever knows who is playing who

Milking the Soft Power Dividend (dandydonweiner), Wednesday, 28 March 2018 20:03 (three weeks ago) Permalink

the celeb gossip industry's been going for ~100 years now and are likely making more money off exploiting people than ever i dont see them stopping

Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 28 March 2018 22:17 (three weeks ago) Permalink

I noticed in the UK some of that press has been adapting to the current climate with lots of "LOOK AT THIS RAPIST MONSTER"-type covers.

Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 29 March 2018 09:43 (three weeks ago) Permalink

profanity standards aside didnt Fatty Arbuckle get the same treatment in 1921?

Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 29 March 2018 10:50 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Like it may cause a fundamental rethinking of tabloid culture writ large

― Whiney G. Weingarten

peter thiel tried to warn us

ziggy the ginhead (rushomancy), Thursday, 29 March 2018 11:56 (three weeks ago) Permalink

profanity standards aside didnt Fatty Arbuckle get the same treatment in 1921?

it's about time this thread had someone show up to argue that every accusation is false and part of a conspiracy, now we can really get down to brass tacks

just noticed tears shaped like florida. (sic), Thursday, 29 March 2018 15:42 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Is that what you are about to do?

Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 29 March 2018 19:56 (three weeks ago) Permalink

oh no :(

Whiney G. Weingarten, Thursday, 29 March 2018 21:10 (three weeks ago) Permalink

ugh. it was 1994 but you don't have to bring back EVERYTHING from the seventies...

Nhex, Thursday, 29 March 2018 21:55 (three weeks ago) Permalink

damn it.

how's life, Thursday, 29 March 2018 22:09 (three weeks ago) Permalink

woah that is some fucked up and gross behaviour

Louis Jägermeister (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 29 March 2018 22:14 (three weeks ago) Permalink

very gross. fuck that.

i couldn't stomach the new R&S but as the article makes clear, he continued to work with so many different people on big projects. now it's like this sickness intertwined into the culture. hopefully that will end.

Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 29 March 2018 22:19 (three weeks ago) Permalink

"Call the police," indeed.

how's life, Thursday, 29 March 2018 22:22 (three weeks ago) Permalink

that's a terrible story but this line:"Creators of shows including SpongeBob SquarePants, Adventure Time, and Rick and Morty have cited Ren & Stimpy as an influence" well, yeah, duh. I mean, would they deny that this was influential? I'm not saying 'separate the art from the artist' but it's like saying Woody Allen hasn't been influential. doesn't make him not a fucking creep.

akm, Friday, 30 March 2018 03:14 (three weeks ago) Permalink

it provides context for the many people who may be unfamiliar with a 25-year-old cult cartoon

mookieproof, Friday, 30 March 2018 03:33 (three weeks ago) Permalink

And I don't think anyone, the creators or the author, were trying to make him any less of a creep.

nickn, Friday, 30 March 2018 03:36 (three weeks ago) Permalink

his fame has to mentioned as part of explaining why he was able to get away with it in several instances and for so long; he is genuinely beloved by many animators and animation fans for his work.

Nhex, Friday, 30 March 2018 04:27 (three weeks ago) Permalink

the many people who may be unfamiliar with a 25-year-old cult cartoon

the new Micky Mouse cartoon is 100% a R&S ripoff. and as mentioned in the article, he recently did animation work for Weird Al and design work for Miley Cyrus. he was still getting work.

Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 30 March 2018 13:15 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Don’t forget the Bjork video!

Whiney G. Weingarten, Friday, 30 March 2018 14:17 (three weeks ago) Permalink

that one... not so recent

mh, Friday, 30 March 2018 14:28 (three weeks ago) Permalink

sorry, i was just caught up in naming John K stuff :(

Whiney G. Weingarten, Friday, 30 March 2018 14:31 (three weeks ago) Permalink

sad sean penn story about his sad book and sad #metoo poem that he included in his book. someone put him on an island somewhere.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/sean-penn-bob-honey-who-just-do-stuff-review_us_5ab9a1bee4b008c9e5fa89a2

scott seward, Friday, 30 March 2018 15:16 (three weeks ago) Permalink

sorry if already linked to. you probably don't even need to look at it to be honest.

scott seward, Friday, 30 March 2018 15:17 (three weeks ago) Permalink

he was still getting work.

The Weird Al video was 12 years ago.

just noticed tears shaped like florida. (sic), Friday, 30 March 2018 16:29 (three weeks ago) Permalink

the Bangerz tour wasn't

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Friday, 30 March 2018 16:38 (three weeks ago) Permalink

His output has slowed down, but he enjoys a living-legend stature that prompted 3,562 people to fund a Kickstarter campaign for his short Cans Without Labels, which he screened at a prestigious animation film festival in 2016. He made art for Miley Cyrus’s 2014 Bangerz tour; he animated two credit sequences on The Simpsons, the most recent in 2015. His portrait still hangs on the wall at Nickelodeon.

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Friday, 30 March 2018 16:39 (three weeks ago) Permalink

The article just came out yesterday.

how's life, Friday, 30 March 2018 17:08 (three weeks ago) Permalink

this is a weird thing to argue about

lots of people have made art for pop stars and have 3500 kickstarter supporters; this guy is famous for a cable tv show made a quarter of a century ago. the article, as it should, provided context for why he is more notable than a garden-variety pedo asshole. not everyone who reads buzzfeed is an animation nerd like (apparently) ilxors

mookieproof, Friday, 30 March 2018 17:25 (three weeks ago) Permalink

i mean, that is also, literally, how you write articles

Whiney G. Weingarten, Friday, 30 March 2018 17:26 (three weeks ago) Permalink

personally i learned a lot about the concept of time

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 30 March 2018 17:32 (three weeks ago) Permalink

if he was most productive when being a sexual predator, the slowdown in productivity is probably not so bad. kind of guessing he won't be getting much work anytime soon

mh, Friday, 30 March 2018 17:37 (three weeks ago) Permalink

All the sentences in the Buzzfeed article about the cartoons he's influenced and the work he gets all seemed pretty value-neutral to me

Whiney G. Weingarten, Friday, 30 March 2018 17:48 (three weeks ago) Permalink

I guess the word "still" is confusing, but I assumed it meant "still there after making money for them, like, a quarter century ago" vs "still there despite being the open secret that he's a creep"

Whiney G. Weingarten, Friday, 30 March 2018 17:51 (three weeks ago) Permalink

*despite the

Whiney G. Weingarten, Friday, 30 March 2018 17:51 (three weeks ago) Permalink

this is a weird thing to argue about

yeah, I'm not quite sure what the argument here is. of course someone whose peak was in the '90s is going to have a slower rate of creative output in the 2010s, that doesn't make the actual story any less horrifying

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Friday, 30 March 2018 18:02 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Sorry, I had misinterpreted the line of conversation to mean that "John K was still getting work despite the open secret that he's a creep" with an accusatory eye towards Weird Al and Miley. To which I responded about the article coming out yesterday as if to say "yeah, but how open of a secret was it? do you really think Miley Cyrus is keeping up with cartoon-industry gossip from 15 years ago?" I realize that I was mistaken and am sorry, but brad's comment made me lol at my desk, so I guess it was worth it.

how's life, Friday, 30 March 2018 18:15 (three weeks ago) Permalink

the way i interpreted that string of messages was someone said "who cares about this guy and some cult show from 25 years ago". and i responded "he was still getting work" hence the Weird Al/Miley, not to accuse them but to say, he's not just some forgotten rando from a quarter century ago with no current impact on pop culture

Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 30 March 2018 22:30 (three weeks ago) Permalink


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