Weinsteins step down as Miramax CEOs

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i thought this was a done deal already. they've got this new thing called "fellowship adventure group" or something. check that acronym!

s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 16:40 (fourteen years ago) link

Uhh, you're mostly right.

Mr. Harvey Weinstein (mr harvey weinstein), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 16:41 (fourteen years ago) link

they've got this new thing called "fellowship adventure group" or something.

Sounds like they're still annoyed with themselves at missing the LOTR gravy train. ;-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 16:43 (fourteen years ago) link

i know! they couldn't have missed the connotations there!

s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 16:44 (fourteen years ago) link

It was done for F9/11.

Mr. Harvey Weinstein (mr harvey weinstein), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 16:46 (fourteen years ago) link

The Weinsteins will retain control of the Dimension label, which has produced a raft of films aimed at teenagers and children, including the Scream franchise = the really really really big money

scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 16:46 (fourteen years ago) link

bob has always been the big moneymaker with dimension.

scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 16:47 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah, dimension is what kept miramax afloat all those years

s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 16:47 (fourteen years ago) link

all those lasse hallstrom movies aren't going to pay for themselves!

s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 16:49 (fourteen years ago) link

I DID IT

Dude, are you a 15 year old asian chick? (jingleberries), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 16:55 (fourteen years ago) link

Yeah, he was on ILX. Weird.

bro dudely (deangulberry), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 16:56 (fourteen years ago) link

I find his state law breaking celebration methods questionable.

Dude, are you a 15 year old asian chick? (jingleberries), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 16:58 (fourteen years ago) link

five years pass...

The Weinstein Company and Miramax -- the studio the Weinstein brothers founded and then sold -- announced a gigantic partnership deal on Thursday (via The Hollywood Reporter), agreeing to create sequels of the smash hit films that the Weinsteins produced for the studio before starting their new production company.

A number of big films are set to see second installments added to their canon: 'Shakespeare In Love,' 'Bad Santa,' 'Swingers,' 'Rounders,' 'Bridget Jones's Diary,' are some of the most famous names to be in line for the part two treatment.

buzza, Monday, 20 December 2010 18:43 (eight years ago) link

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0317198/

zvookster, Monday, 20 December 2010 18:45 (eight years ago) link

Shakespeare in Love 2? Oh yay

Square-Panted Sponge Robert (VegemiteGrrrl), Monday, 20 December 2010 19:09 (eight years ago) link

Will Hard with a Vengeance

THX THO... (Nicole), Monday, 20 December 2010 19:16 (eight years ago) link

Iambic Boogaloo

THX THO... (Nicole), Monday, 20 December 2010 19:16 (eight years ago) link

there's already a second bridget jones movie

Ward Fowler, Monday, 20 December 2010 19:17 (eight years ago) link

Shakespeare in Love 2: Havana Nights

THX THO... (Nicole), Monday, 20 December 2010 19:21 (eight years ago) link

this time it's versonal

zvookster, Monday, 20 December 2010 19:27 (eight years ago) link

Crying Game 2?

Matt Armstrong, Monday, 20 December 2010 19:32 (eight years ago) link

there's already a second bridget jones movie

Please don't remind me.

State Attorney Foxhart Cubycheck (Billy Dods), Monday, 20 December 2010 19:36 (eight years ago) link

Reindeer Games 2: Blood Sleigh

Matt Armstrong, Monday, 20 December 2010 20:49 (eight years ago) link

Rounders: Legacy

da croupier, Monday, 20 December 2010 20:54 (eight years ago) link

Chocolat 2: The Squeakque

a nan, a bal, an anal ― (abanana), Monday, 20 December 2010 21:55 (eight years ago) link

Good Will Hunting 2: Open Season

Square-Panted Sponge Robert (VegemiteGrrrl), Monday, 20 December 2010 22:15 (eight years ago) link

would watch a bad santa sequel

cereal bad boy (haitch), Monday, 20 December 2010 23:35 (eight years ago) link

Bad Santa 2: The Baddening

Square-Panted Sponge Robert (VegemiteGrrrl), Monday, 20 December 2010 23:36 (eight years ago) link

still lolling at "Iambic Boogaloo"

Square-Panted Sponge Robert (VegemiteGrrrl), Monday, 20 December 2010 23:37 (eight years ago) link

What's next? Henry 5?!

I Am Kurious Assange (polyphonic), Monday, 20 December 2010 23:37 (eight years ago) link

Rounders 2: What Goes A Rounders Comes Back A Rounders Again

zvookster, Monday, 20 December 2010 23:38 (eight years ago) link

Seriously, Dude, Where's My Bard?

zvookster, Monday, 20 December 2010 23:39 (eight years ago) link

Shakespeare In Love 2: Rotten In Denmark

Square-Panted Sponge Robert (VegemiteGrrrl), Tuesday, 21 December 2010 00:06 (eight years ago) link

three years pass...

Just finished Peter Biskind's Down and Dirty Pictures: Miramax, Sundance, and the Rise of Independent Film. (Awful title.) Was actually published only a couple of months before the event that started this thread--he gives no indication that that's around the corner. Anyway, as someone who's mostly ignorant about the business end of things, I now know more about these people than I ever wanted to know, and I'm amazed a single movie ever gets made.

clemenza, Monday, 7 July 2014 22:57 (five years ago) link

three years pass...

This is...something.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/10/05/us/statement-from-harvey-weinstein.html

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 5 October 2017 18:49 (two years ago) link

I want to buy the movie rights

— rose mcgowan (@rosemcgowan) October 4, 2017

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 5 October 2017 18:56 (two years ago) link

that statement really keeps you guessing huh

ATTACK MY RUSTY TOOLBOX (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 5 October 2017 18:57 (two years ago) link

how the fuck can his lawyer let him make that statement.

He's always been an asshole of the highest order.

Randall Jarrell (dandydonweiner), Thursday, 5 October 2017 19:53 (two years ago) link

the odds of decades worth of actors, actresses, directors, fellow producers, or any number of people not knowing about this stuff seems to me next to nil.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 5 October 2017 19:57 (two years ago) link

Lisa Bloom, one of Weinstein’s attorneys who specializes in sexual harassment cases, adds that she has been advising him on “gender and power dynamics” for the past year, calling him “an old dinosaur learning new ways.” She adds that she’s “explained to him that due to the power difference between a major studio head like him and most others in the industry, whatever his motives, some of his words and behaviors can be perceived as inappropriate, even intimidating.”

http://catholicap.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/skd229428sdc.jpg

nomar, Thursday, 5 October 2017 19:59 (two years ago) link

so this guy's got presumably top dollar lawyers and crisis management teams working for him and... that's his statement?

"not used to this new day and age when leveraging your power to coerce young women eager to get a foot in the door into sleeping with you isn't cool. i'm workin' on it. also fuck the NRA and Trump, right guys?!"

circa1916, Thursday, 5 October 2017 20:00 (two years ago) link

oh i forgot about the Jay-Z quote from 4:44

circa1916, Thursday, 5 October 2017 20:00 (two years ago) link

HEY GUYS LETS SHOW HOW CULTURALLY AWARE I AM

Randall Jarrell (dandydonweiner), Thursday, 5 October 2017 20:01 (two years ago) link

Weinstein told NYT he "sincerely apologize[s]" for his behavior, is going on leave.
His lawyer tells Hollywood Reporter he is suing us.

— Nick Confessore (@nickconfessore) October 5, 2017

Monster fatberg (Phil D.), Thursday, 5 October 2017 20:02 (two years ago) link

wow what a total POS

that "apology" reads like a horrendous parody

-_- (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 5 October 2017 20:34 (two years ago) link

Harvey the Hutt

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 5 October 2017 20:42 (two years ago) link

surprised it wasn't written in crayon a la tarantino scripts

Οὖτις, Thursday, 5 October 2017 20:51 (two years ago) link

How is it bullshit?

You can have an acting class about performing sex scenes in a way that would make everyone involved comfortable e.g. by having an intimacy/sensitivity coach present, or by not storming off and throwing a tantrum if women refused to take their tops off, or by not uploading footage with nudity that they had shot for class online without the women's consent, or by not removing the protective guards that you know, WERE SUPPOSED TO MAKE THE WOMEN COMFORTABLE (this btw was not part of the class but was a shoot for an unscripted movie scene that Franco invited his students to be part of, which makes it even more gross.)

To be fair Franco even offering a class like that seems like a p bad idea on paper, but the situation is not analogous to others like Weinstein or Louis CK or whoever.

Well Louis CK defenders would say his situation was not analogous to Weinstein either since he never actually assaulted anyone but that's bullshit too. Being a woman is constantly having to deal with men shifting the goalposts, being all like "This is OK, but *this* is not OK". NO. None of them are fucking OK.

Roz, Thursday, 31 October 2019 15:53 (one week ago) link

an acting class about performing sex scenes in a way that would make everyone involved comfortable

I don't think you can, actually

Οὖτις, Thursday, 31 October 2019 15:57 (one week ago) link

(but then I think the large majority of sex scenes in film are gratuitous and stupid and unnecessary)

Οὖτις, Thursday, 31 October 2019 15:58 (one week ago) link

fine, "as comfortable as possible" then. my point stands.

Roz, Thursday, 31 October 2019 15:59 (one week ago) link

you could certainly get a better teacher for that than James Franco

flappy bird, Thursday, 31 October 2019 16:13 (one week ago) link

i agree with you about sex scenes shakey

flappy bird, Thursday, 31 October 2019 16:13 (one week ago) link

Roz otm
Franco offering sex scene classes should never have gotten the green light any more than a class about alcohol temperance should be taught by like a Richard Burton or something.

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 31 October 2019 16:18 (one week ago) link

idk i'm pretty sure it's possible to perform sex scenes comfortably

american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 31 October 2019 16:20 (one week ago) link

I would honestly think a course about performing sex scenes would be about learning how to do them comfortably? Most people know how to have sex.

Frederik B, Thursday, 31 October 2019 16:23 (one week ago) link

i also assume we're all professional actors here and we all know what's involved in a sex scene

american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 31 October 2019 16:24 (one week ago) link

Most people know how to have sex.

don't think this is true either lol

Οὖτις, Thursday, 31 October 2019 16:28 (one week ago) link

i think people are also forgetting what Franco's public image was like less than a decade ago - he was Renaissance man, the dude juggling a busy acting career with pursuing multiple degrees, releasing poetry and essay collections etc. Hey *I* thought he was hot too. So it's not surprising that people enrolled in his classes would expect at least a basic level of professionalism.

Roz, Thursday, 31 October 2019 16:34 (one week ago) link

huh. I would expect a "hot" actor to act like an asshole.

Οὖτις, Thursday, 31 October 2019 16:37 (one week ago) link

that's cool, they, reasonably, didn't

american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 31 October 2019 16:49 (one week ago) link

If you want to read about predatory acting workshops / directors, this is the doozy:

https://www.chicagoreader.com/chicago/profiles-theatre-theater-abuse-investigation/Content?oid=22415861

... (Eazy), Thursday, 31 October 2019 16:52 (one week ago) link

so the shakey view is "because franco was obviously a sleaze, you can't complain about what happens when you take a sex scene workshop with him"?

v interesting perspective

ت (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 31 October 2019 16:56 (one week ago) link

I just don't think "I signed up for a sex scene class and then the sex turned out to be really uncomfortable" is grounds for a lawsuit or the same thing as a producer raping an actress in a hotel room. It's gross and stupid but also really predictable.

Οὖτις, Thursday, 31 October 2019 16:58 (one week ago) link

the tendency to say "this isn't like Weinstein" reduces all forms of sexual assault to "Is Weinstein" and "Is Not Weinstein" when in fact its a wide spectrum of shitty behavior

The Mandymoorian (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 31 October 2019 17:00 (one week ago) link

Like, Weinstein is a level 10 creep and Aziz Ansari is a level 3 creep and the tiny percentage of people who actually think about any of this shit at all ever are gonna make up their own mind

The Mandymoorian (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 31 October 2019 17:04 (one week ago) link

I just don't think "I signed up for a sex scene class and then the sex turned out to be really uncomfortable" is grounds for a lawsuit or the same thing as a producer raping an actress in a hotel room. It's gross and stupid but also really predictable.

― Οὖτις, Thursday, October 31, 2019 9:58 AM (six minutes ago)

you know the difference between "sex" and "sex scenes" right

president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Thursday, 31 October 2019 17:05 (one week ago) link

like Shakey I know you have a shtick but you're being dense

president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Thursday, 31 October 2019 17:06 (one week ago) link

(but then I think the large majority of sex scenes in film are gratuitous and stupid and unnecessary)

― Οὖτις, Thursday, October 31, 2019 8:58 AM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

This is completely beside the point tbh and also I’m not sure it’s true esp when compared to other much more common types of scenes in films.

omar little, Thursday, 31 October 2019 17:09 (one week ago) link

like when the boss of a big company has a corner office and is playing put put golf in it

flappy bird, Thursday, 31 October 2019 17:10 (one week ago) link

https://i.imgflip.com/3ewkfm.jpg

The Mandymoorian (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 31 October 2019 17:14 (one week ago) link

irl lol

now let's play big lunch take little lunch (sic), Thursday, 31 October 2019 17:17 (one week ago) link

hahahaha

ت (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 31 October 2019 17:18 (one week ago) link

Whiney can I pay you to make memes out of more of my posts

president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Thursday, 31 October 2019 17:22 (one week ago) link

Intimacy choreography is now becoming a standard professional practice, the idea being that sex scenes shouldn't be winged any more than a fight scene is.

... (Eazy), Thursday, 31 October 2019 17:26 (one week ago) link

Yeah, GOT hired one for the last couple seasons after they got a ton of shit for really messing up with a particular scene.

Simon H., Thursday, 31 October 2019 17:28 (one week ago) link

That was about an error in staging/direction, though. This shit is hard to do well!

Simon H., Thursday, 31 October 2019 17:30 (one week ago) link

omg Whiney

Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 31 October 2019 18:24 (one week ago) link

hahahaha nicely done

Οὖτις, Thursday, 31 October 2019 18:36 (one week ago) link

Like, Weinstein is a level 10 creep and Aziz Ansari is a level 3 creep and the tiny percentage of people who actually think about any of this shit at all ever are gonna make up their own mind

also yeah I agree w this

Οὖτις, Thursday, 31 October 2019 18:37 (one week ago) link

Some of this is out of our hands, as Aziz, and maybe Franco, are going to keep showing up on tv, whereas Spacey probably isn't

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Thursday, 31 October 2019 18:44 (one week ago) link

You have to really work hard to skip past the accusation that he removed a woman's vulva guard that was mentioned in multiple posts and the story you're calling bullshit to arrive at "the sex was uncomfortable, waaaaah don't be a snowflake"

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Thursday, 31 October 2019 19:18 (one week ago) link

I suspect he does not have to work that hard

YouGov to see it (wins), Thursday, 31 October 2019 19:25 (one week ago) link

give spacey 10 years he'll be back at the Oscars pumping a career rehab role. maybe he'll play the pope

flappy bird, Thursday, 31 October 2019 20:14 (one week ago) link

careful now, the last person who accused spacey of an unwelcome pumping ended up dead

non-euclidean lenin (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 31 October 2019 20:54 (one week ago) link

kevin shakey

deems of internment (darraghmac), Thursday, 31 October 2019 21:21 (one week ago) link

wau

president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Thursday, 31 October 2019 21:30 (one week ago) link

Too far

thewufs, Friday, 1 November 2019 01:18 (one week ago) link

Also

he removed a woman's vulva guard

That’s horrific. I did not know this

thewufs, Friday, 1 November 2019 01:20 (one week ago) link

Great, just great.

https://jezebel.com/bosses-at-vice-and-the-fader-ignored-sexual-misconduct-1839636779

Ned Raggett, Friday, 8 November 2019 00:15 (five days ago) link

I don't know about anything about the people running The Fader but it's unsurprising re: the cretins at Vice.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/unsafe-and-just-plain-dirty-women-accuse-vice-of-toxic-sexual-harassment-culture

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Friday, 8 November 2019 00:35 (five days ago) link

And then...

Christian comedian John Crist had a Netflix special called "I Ain’t Prayin’ for That" set to debut on Thanksgiving, but five women came forward with sexual misconduct allegations against him this week, so now the release has been put on hold. https://t.co/MpmhATeqOI

— Megh Wright (@megh_wright) November 7, 2019

Ned Raggett, Friday, 8 November 2019 00:54 (five days ago) link

that would have made a great arc on CRASHING

maura, Friday, 8 November 2019 01:17 (five days ago) link

that jezebel piece is absolutely fucking sickening

american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 8 November 2019 01:51 (five days ago) link

And today:

Our statement on the recent lawsuits involving G/O Media CEO Jim Spanfeller. pic.twitter.com/ZiuhXunUKS

— GMG Union (@gmgunion) November 8, 2019

Ned Raggett, Friday, 8 November 2019 19:29 (five days ago) link

Namely:

The sources said that publisher Andy Cohn and others at The Fader were aware of Sundermann’s alleged behavior before he was hired, and that Cohn had once behaved inappropriately at a 2011 company event. While a rep for the company told Variety Wednesday that Cohn was not under investigation, disputing the claim of an anonymous source quoted in a Billboard article on Sundermann’s firing, on Friday the company confirmed that he has been suspended.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 8 November 2019 21:23 (five days ago) link


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