Weinsteins step down as Miramax CEOs

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i thought this was a done deal already. they've got this new thing called "fellowship adventure group" or something. check that acronym!

s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 16:40 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Uhh, you're mostly right.

Mr. Harvey Weinstein (mr harvey weinstein), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 16:41 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

they've got this new thing called "fellowship adventure group" or something.

Sounds like they're still annoyed with themselves at missing the LOTR gravy train. ;-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 16:43 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

i know! they couldn't have missed the connotations there!

s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 16:44 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

It was done for F9/11.

Mr. Harvey Weinstein (mr harvey weinstein), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 16:46 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

The Weinsteins will retain control of the Dimension label, which has produced a raft of films aimed at teenagers and children, including the Scream franchise = the really really really big money

scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 16:46 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

bob has always been the big moneymaker with dimension.

scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 16:47 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

yeah, dimension is what kept miramax afloat all those years

s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 16:47 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

all those lasse hallstrom movies aren't going to pay for themselves!

s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 16:49 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I DID IT

Dude, are you a 15 year old asian chick? (jingleberries), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 16:55 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Yeah, he was on ILX. Weird.

bro dudely (deangulberry), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 16:56 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I find his state law breaking celebration methods questionable.

Dude, are you a 15 year old asian chick? (jingleberries), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 16:58 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

five years pass...

The Weinstein Company and Miramax -- the studio the Weinstein brothers founded and then sold -- announced a gigantic partnership deal on Thursday (via The Hollywood Reporter), agreeing to create sequels of the smash hit films that the Weinsteins produced for the studio before starting their new production company.

A number of big films are set to see second installments added to their canon: 'Shakespeare In Love,' 'Bad Santa,' 'Swingers,' 'Rounders,' 'Bridget Jones's Diary,' are some of the most famous names to be in line for the part two treatment.

buzza, Monday, 20 December 2010 18:43 (eight years ago) Permalink

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0317198/

zvookster, Monday, 20 December 2010 18:45 (eight years ago) Permalink

Shakespeare in Love 2? Oh yay

Square-Panted Sponge Robert (VegemiteGrrrl), Monday, 20 December 2010 19:09 (eight years ago) Permalink

Will Hard with a Vengeance

THX THO... (Nicole), Monday, 20 December 2010 19:16 (eight years ago) Permalink

Iambic Boogaloo

THX THO... (Nicole), Monday, 20 December 2010 19:16 (eight years ago) Permalink

there's already a second bridget jones movie

Ward Fowler, Monday, 20 December 2010 19:17 (eight years ago) Permalink

Shakespeare in Love 2: Havana Nights

THX THO... (Nicole), Monday, 20 December 2010 19:21 (eight years ago) Permalink

this time it's versonal

zvookster, Monday, 20 December 2010 19:27 (eight years ago) Permalink

Crying Game 2?

Matt Armstrong, Monday, 20 December 2010 19:32 (eight years ago) Permalink

there's already a second bridget jones movie

Please don't remind me.

State Attorney Foxhart Cubycheck (Billy Dods), Monday, 20 December 2010 19:36 (eight years ago) Permalink

Reindeer Games 2: Blood Sleigh

Matt Armstrong, Monday, 20 December 2010 20:49 (eight years ago) Permalink

Rounders: Legacy

da croupier, Monday, 20 December 2010 20:54 (eight years ago) Permalink

Chocolat 2: The Squeakque

a nan, a bal, an anal ― (abanana), Monday, 20 December 2010 21:55 (eight years ago) Permalink

Good Will Hunting 2: Open Season

Square-Panted Sponge Robert (VegemiteGrrrl), Monday, 20 December 2010 22:15 (eight years ago) Permalink

would watch a bad santa sequel

cereal bad boy (haitch), Monday, 20 December 2010 23:35 (eight years ago) Permalink

Bad Santa 2: The Baddening

Square-Panted Sponge Robert (VegemiteGrrrl), Monday, 20 December 2010 23:36 (eight years ago) Permalink

still lolling at "Iambic Boogaloo"

Square-Panted Sponge Robert (VegemiteGrrrl), Monday, 20 December 2010 23:37 (eight years ago) Permalink

What's next? Henry 5?!

I Am Kurious Assange (polyphonic), Monday, 20 December 2010 23:37 (eight years ago) Permalink

Rounders 2: What Goes A Rounders Comes Back A Rounders Again

zvookster, Monday, 20 December 2010 23:38 (eight years ago) Permalink

Seriously, Dude, Where's My Bard?

zvookster, Monday, 20 December 2010 23:39 (eight years ago) Permalink

Shakespeare In Love 2: Rotten In Denmark

Square-Panted Sponge Robert (VegemiteGrrrl), Tuesday, 21 December 2010 00:06 (eight years ago) Permalink

three years pass...

Just finished Peter Biskind's Down and Dirty Pictures: Miramax, Sundance, and the Rise of Independent Film. (Awful title.) Was actually published only a couple of months before the event that started this thread--he gives no indication that that's around the corner. Anyway, as someone who's mostly ignorant about the business end of things, I now know more about these people than I ever wanted to know, and I'm amazed a single movie ever gets made.

clemenza, Monday, 7 July 2014 22:57 (four years ago) Permalink

three years pass...

This is...something.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/10/05/us/statement-from-harvey-weinstein.html

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 5 October 2017 18:49 (one year ago) Permalink

I want to buy the movie rights

— rose mcgowan (@rosemcgowan) October 4, 2017

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 5 October 2017 18:56 (one year ago) Permalink

that statement really keeps you guessing huh

ATTACK MY RUSTY TOOLBOX (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 5 October 2017 18:57 (one year ago) Permalink

how the fuck can his lawyer let him make that statement.

He's always been an asshole of the highest order.

Randall Jarrell (dandydonweiner), Thursday, 5 October 2017 19:53 (one year ago) Permalink

the odds of decades worth of actors, actresses, directors, fellow producers, or any number of people not knowing about this stuff seems to me next to nil.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 5 October 2017 19:57 (one year ago) Permalink

Lisa Bloom, one of Weinstein’s attorneys who specializes in sexual harassment cases, adds that she has been advising him on “gender and power dynamics” for the past year, calling him “an old dinosaur learning new ways.” She adds that she’s “explained to him that due to the power difference between a major studio head like him and most others in the industry, whatever his motives, some of his words and behaviors can be perceived as inappropriate, even intimidating.”

http://catholicap.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/skd229428sdc.jpg

nomar, Thursday, 5 October 2017 19:59 (one year ago) Permalink

so this guy's got presumably top dollar lawyers and crisis management teams working for him and... that's his statement?

"not used to this new day and age when leveraging your power to coerce young women eager to get a foot in the door into sleeping with you isn't cool. i'm workin' on it. also fuck the NRA and Trump, right guys?!"

circa1916, Thursday, 5 October 2017 20:00 (one year ago) Permalink

oh i forgot about the Jay-Z quote from 4:44

circa1916, Thursday, 5 October 2017 20:00 (one year ago) Permalink

HEY GUYS LETS SHOW HOW CULTURALLY AWARE I AM

Randall Jarrell (dandydonweiner), Thursday, 5 October 2017 20:01 (one year ago) Permalink

Weinstein told NYT he "sincerely apologize[s]" for his behavior, is going on leave.
His lawyer tells Hollywood Reporter he is suing us.

— Nick Confessore (@nickconfessore) October 5, 2017

Monster fatberg (Phil D.), Thursday, 5 October 2017 20:02 (one year ago) Permalink

wow what a total POS

that "apology" reads like a horrendous parody

-_- (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 5 October 2017 20:34 (one year ago) Permalink

Harvey the Hutt

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 5 October 2017 20:42 (one year ago) Permalink

surprised it wasn't written in crayon a la tarantino scripts

Οὖτις, Thursday, 5 October 2017 20:51 (one year ago) Permalink

Didn't Titanic have bigger box office than that?

nickn, Friday, 25 January 2019 03:11 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Millennials loved Queen even before the movie.

Infidels, Like Dylan In The Eighties (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 25 January 2019 03:21 (three weeks ago) Permalink

right? Queen is ridiculously popular and young people see Freddie Mercury as a musical genius. also the general public's music taste is hella basic and people would have gone to see it regardless of who the director was. (this is also why the Mamma Mia! movies were huge hits, even though half the cast couldn't carry a tune).

Roz, Friday, 25 January 2019 03:40 (three weeks ago) Permalink

i'm a millennial (i think?) and ii literally have no recollection of Queen being an american pop culture touchstone other than the bit in wayne's world. i work at a small liberal arts college and have never seen anything to clue me in to Queen being popular amongst the youth. i've seen Joy Division, Black Sabbath, Big Star, Led Zeppelin etc. on tees but never Queen. i just don't understand what makes them more appealing subject matter for an imaginary movie than any other band from the last 40 years.

having said that, i fully acknowledge that I'm no authority on this subject matter. it just seems odd that no one I know likes Queen at all.

dynamicinterface, Friday, 25 January 2019 04:10 (three weeks ago) Permalink

not so much that he works cheap, but rather that his films make lots and lots and lots of money for the studios. agree that he's a mediocre filmmaker, but he does know how to draw in moviegoers.


Does he tho? got a feeling red sonja will be it for him for a while...

he was very hot coming off Usual Suspects but x-men/x2 and bohemian rhapsody were can’t-miss and the rest is box office disappointment if not out and out flops. Superman Returns? Jack the Giant-Killer?

NB he was the band’s first choice to direct the Queen pic, not the studio’s. My sense is that he’s *really* good at articulating a smart and compelling vision for a picture, which somehow whatever he shoots never quite lives up to.

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Friday, 25 January 2019 04:27 (three weeks ago) Permalink

i was probably being overly generous, i think Singer is genuinely a very bad filmmaker. No imagination, no real style, brings nothing to the table except apparently a manila envelope with compromising photos idk. when I saw Usual Suspects it felt like a real con job of a movie, like a decent calling card for a screenwriter but certainly no classic. and fuck i mean for example Superman Returns was about five hours long, each hour longer than the previous, and no one has ever wanted to see it again and everyone has forgotten its existence.

omar little, Friday, 25 January 2019 04:41 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Ha, when I saw Superman Returns mentioned in the article I was thinking, "Did that actually get released?"

jmm, Friday, 25 January 2019 04:49 (three weeks ago) Permalink

how the fuck has BoHo made 800 mil

I know Queen are still super popular & basic (hence huge numbers) but still. STILL

flappy bird, Friday, 25 January 2019 04:54 (three weeks ago) Permalink

That 800 Mil is worldwide gross, no?

Infidels, Like Dylan In The Eighties (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 25 January 2019 04:57 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Ohh

.....still?

flappy bird, Friday, 25 January 2019 05:07 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Looked up Titanic, $2.1 billion worldwide.

Avatar $2.7B but maybe that's not a "drama."

nickn, Friday, 25 January 2019 05:42 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Queen is great, you herbs

ebro the letter (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 25 January 2019 07:19 (three weeks ago) Permalink

NB he was the band’s first choice to direct the Queen pic, not the studio’s.

not their first, since he didn’t come on until about seven years into active development, and was replaced mid-production by the director who’d been signed four years earlier but walked bcz he thought the “band”’s approach to the script was dumb and bad, a year or two after the star had walked bcz he thought the band’s approach to the script was dumb and bad

sans lep (sic), Friday, 25 January 2019 08:38 (three weeks ago) Permalink

^ not a major nitpick in this thread’s specific context, but it took a while to find a team who was really keen to tell a bland story that glossed over the sexual attitudes of the protagonist, and...

sans lep (sic), Friday, 25 January 2019 08:40 (three weeks ago) Permalink

he was very hot coming off Usual Suspects but x-men/x2 and bohemian rhapsody were can’t-miss and the rest is box office disappointment if not out and out flops. Superman Returns? Jack the Giant-Killer?

Superman Returns is his second-highest grossing film in adjusted dollars!

Rank	Title (click to view)	Studio	Adjusted Gross	Unadjusted Gross	Release
1 X2: X-Men United Fox $321,889,800 $214,949,694 5/2/03
2 Superman Returns WB $275,837,100 $200,081,192 6/28/06
3 X-Men Fox $263,528,100 $157,299,717 7/14/00
4 X-Men: Days of Future Past Fox $254,041,000 $233,921,534 5/23/14
5 Bohemian Rhapsody Fox $203,079,400 $203,079,367 11/2/18
6 X-Men: Apocalypse Fox $160,860,200 $155,442,489 5/27/16
7 Valkyrie UA $100,963,000 $83,077,833 12/25/08
8 Jack the Giant Slayer WB (NL) $73,849,500 $65,187,603 3/1/13
9 The Usual Suspects Gram. $48,453,900 $23,341,568 8/18/95
10 Apt Pupil Sony $17,065,000 $8,863,193 10/23/98

Plinka Trinka Banga Tink (Eliza D.), Friday, 25 January 2019 13:12 (three weeks ago) Permalink

gross has to be compared against budget and expectations. point of all of this being, how does a guy with Singer’s track record and known baggage keep getting major gigs?

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Friday, 25 January 2019 16:25 (three weeks ago) Permalink

i think Singer is genuinely a very bad filmmaker. No imagination, no real style, brings nothing to the table except apparently a manila envelope with compromising photos idk.

Disagree, with X2 as evidence. I didn't mind him in the early '00s when he treated the genre seriously and added queer subtexts.

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 25 January 2019 16:30 (three weeks ago) Permalink

who the fuck is paying money to see bohemian rhapsody? does anyone under 40 listen to Queen? is there a hot youtube star playing brian may that i don't know about? does bowie make a beyond the grave cameo? is there a scene where they're writing "we are the champions" everything about it seems so so bad. i know baby boomers still get to decide what gets nominated for awards but those box office numbers are more than just old white dudes turning out right? why does anyone care? freddy mecury was certainly a charismatic figure but the story of "Queen" isn't what i would have considered interesting enough to be a box office smash.

― dynamicinterface, Thursday, January 24, 2019 9

I don't blame you for not hanging around teenagers, but the movie was a big deal to them, at least the ones I talked to over the holiday break: Mom and Dad listening to Queen with the kids, with Mom and Dad themselves converted in 1992.

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 25 January 2019 16:32 (three weeks ago) Permalink

^^ check out. 'Queen Greatest Hits II' (that blue one) was released in 1991 and I remember that cd begin *everywhere* at the time.

Uptown VONC (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 25 January 2019 16:33 (three weeks ago) Permalink

*checks

Uptown VONC (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 25 January 2019 16:34 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Good Omens injoke about every car containing a cassette of Queen’s Greatest Hits is troooooooo

suzy, Friday, 25 January 2019 16:42 (three weeks ago) Permalink

added queer subtexts.

I mean, I can’t read more than three panels of Claremont before my eyes dry up, but I’m given to understand he baked the subtext into the source pretty richly

sans lep (sic), Friday, 25 January 2019 16:43 (three weeks ago) Permalink

i agree Singer took the genre seriously and X2 is fine, but he's very uninspired. the subtext alone isn't much to write home about imo bc it's not done very interestingly. I won't draw a line in the sand there because i have no real issue w/anyone thinking he's solid, since that's all separate from the larger issues at play at present. I guess the main question is, why is Bryan Singer of all filmmakers too valuable as a talent to exile? He is a replacement level talent, at best. This is not a new thing, these allegations have gone back for twenty years and unlike other rumors the stories ring true.

omar little, Friday, 25 January 2019 16:47 (three weeks ago) Permalink

he's not talented enough for me to protest a blacklist, so throw'em in the thorns

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 25 January 2019 16:49 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Singer kinda takes me back to the days of late-'90s AOL movie message boards when people would list their "best filmmakers of all time" and the lists would be like Hitchcock, Scorsese, Kubrick, Tarantino, Darabont, Singer, Kevin Smith.

omar little, Friday, 25 January 2019 16:52 (three weeks ago) Permalink

have not seen any Singer films except Usual Suspects, which was a decent stunt-noir I suppose. I think you can tell he loves 16-year-olds from his subsequent filmography.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 25 January 2019 16:57 (three weeks ago) Permalink

why is Bryan Singer of all filmmakers too valuable as a talent to exile?

or, is bryan singer even the low bar? how far down could you go? is the guy who directed deuce bigalow too big to throw under the bus?

topical mlady (darraghmac), Friday, 25 January 2019 17:00 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Hollywood is an industry run by cargo-cultists; nobody who has ever delivered the cargo is too foul to run off the island.

Norm’s Superego (silby), Friday, 25 January 2019 17:11 (three weeks ago) Permalink

people are maybe overlooking the general entertainment industry omertà and the fact that bryan singer knows where the bodies are buried wrt lots of other powerful influential men in hollywood

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Friday, 25 January 2019 17:12 (three weeks ago) Permalink

is the guy who directed deuce bigalow too big to throw under the bus?

Lego Movie 2 isn’t out for two weeks, you’d better hurry up if you want to cancel him

sans lep (sic), Friday, 25 January 2019 17:13 (three weeks ago) Permalink

people are maybe overlooking the general entertainment industry omertà and the fact that bryan singer knows where the bodies are buried wrt lots of other powerful influential men in hollywood

― ( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Friday, January 25, 2019 12:12 PM (two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

BINGO

flappy bird, Friday, 25 January 2019 17:16 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Wonder if it was the same for R Kelly.

nathom, Friday, 25 January 2019 17:17 (three weeks ago) Permalink

I don't think it's as complicated as any of these theories.

I think it's more like this: If Singer loses work based on rumours and articles, (or the three lawsuits that I can recall have been dismissed-- Apt Pupil, Michael Egan, John Doe), it leaves the studios that are terminating his employment open to wrongful dismissal suits.

Should a studio fire Singer over these rumours and articles, It may also leave his allegers open to graver suits of defamation-- if any allegations against Singer cause him to lose work, he can cite the lost work as damages incurred in defamation suits against his allegers.

flamboyant goon tie included, Friday, 25 January 2019 17:40 (three weeks ago) Permalink

I think it’s pretty easy to not give him more work, Bohemian Rhapsody’s production sounds like it was a debacle and if they can’t point to these allegations they can point to his recent work history.

omar little, Friday, 25 January 2019 17:47 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Meantime...

On a 10-min break halfway through Sundance’s 4-hour Michael Jackson child sex abuse documentary. Whatever you thought you knew or were aware of, the content of this is more disturbing than you could imagine. And again, we’re only halfway through.

— Kevin Fallon (@kpfallon) January 25, 2019

Ned Raggett, Friday, 25 January 2019 18:36 (three weeks ago) Permalink

people are maybe overlooking the general entertainment industry omertà and the fact that bryan singer knows where the bodies are buried wrt lots of other powerful influential men in hollywood


I think that’s what we’re suggesting here. It’s been noted explicitly upthread.

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Friday, 25 January 2019 18:55 (three weeks ago) Permalink

There's a lot of discussion of whether artistically or financially Singer merits the protection he's been given

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Friday, 25 January 2019 19:00 (three weeks ago) Permalink

idk, speaking for myself it’s not whether he merits protection or whatever. as also noted above, unwinding existing agreements is thorny. the question I’m asking is why a replacement-value director with heavy baggage keeps getting hired for new projects when there are plenty of replacement-value directors without baggage.

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Friday, 25 January 2019 19:06 (three weeks ago) Permalink

still a lotta MJ defenders I see

xps

Οὖτις, Friday, 25 January 2019 19:16 (three weeks ago) Permalink

don't know what ind of traction #mutemj would get now; curious about how people feel about erasure for bad dead people vs bad living people. Obviously the idea of supporting someone still capable of doing shitty things hits harder logically but are we gonna start backward looking with artistic boycott.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 25 January 2019 20:33 (three weeks ago) Permalink

people are maybe overlooking the general entertainment industry omertà and the fact that bryan singer knows where the bodies are buried wrt lots of other powerful influential men in hollywood


ding

maura, Friday, 25 January 2019 20:33 (three weeks ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

Going to read more but saw that part: Mandy Moore was married to Adams for nearly six years. What she called his psychologically abusive behavior stalled her music career: “He would always tell me, ‘You’re not a real musician, because you don’t play an instrument.’ and yikes.

Van Horn Street, Wednesday, 13 February 2019 22:16 (five days ago) Permalink

lots and lots of yikes in there. one of my best friends is a superfan and she is having a hard time with this. :(

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 14 February 2019 01:53 (four days ago) Permalink

thanks for posting that -- i've been reading every installment of that al capp/ham fisher story since it started running several weeks ago, it's a fascinating piece of deep reporting with some pretty shocking moments. i recommend starting from the beginning and reading the whole thing if you have some time. i knew capp was an appalling guy but he seems almost evil after reading that stuff.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Thursday, 14 February 2019 22:42 (four days ago) Permalink

I've been skipping it bcz I can't tell if it's newly written &/or expanded, or the same version Harvey published in TCJ in the '90s, but I'll dip into this chapter

steven, soda jerk (sic), Thursday, 14 February 2019 22:59 (four days ago) Permalink

i don't THINK this is old? i knew most of this story but some of the details are truly fucked up

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 14 February 2019 23:27 (four days ago) Permalink

read this one: seems to be much the same as the old version, except this time treating sexual assault as serious, and not inserting comedy asides about how amusing we all should find the idea of a man with one leg, chasing a teenager around a desk, in the office of people with a duty of care to her

steven, soda jerk (sic), Friday, 15 February 2019 03:33 (three days ago) Permalink


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