the WENDY KROY hiccup: and other flaws in other films

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i think "the last seduction" is a pretty flawless femme-fatale thriller, except for ONE THING,and for once i don't mean bill pullman, bcz it is good enuff that it makes up for including him in the cast

the thing is this: when tryin to track linda fiorentino down, BP guesses that she is goin by the name "wendy kroy" - and THAT he guesses is unnecessary and HOW he guesses is annoying

in other words it is a FLAW!!

this thread is about all such flaws: declare yr unfavourite flaw in whatever favourite film, and others will then defend same and etc!!

― mark s (mark s), Monday, 21 March 2005 23:40 (twenty-one years ago)

annoyin bcz it sorta spoils a thing which would have been good if kept just a "thing" - that she can write backwards really easily - instead of making it a BIG (and yet) UNNECESSARY plot point

― mark s (mark s), Monday, 21 March 2005 23:41 (twenty-one years ago)

walter and the dude never look in the trunk of their car when they've scammed the big lebowski out of his wife's ransom, to look at the money. it's very important to the rest of the plot that they not know that it's not there, but still.

― f--gg (gcannon), Monday, 21 March 2005 23:48 (twenty-one years ago)

I remember thinking the same thing.

I guess there's that famous thing about The Shawshank Redemption - how does he put the poster back after escaping from his cell?

― Victor Mackulous (nordicskilla), Monday, 21 March 2005 23:48 (twenty-one years ago)

the other famous thing is that it's shiiiiiiiiiit.

― f--gg (gcannon), Monday, 21 March 2005 23:51 (twenty-one years ago)

actual PLOT ERRORS are maybe kind of a difft thing?? (they are there by mistake presumably: i mean things that are there BY CHOICE)

― mark s (mark s), Monday, 21 March 2005 23:51 (twenty-one years ago)

The Last Seduction is where I first heard my favorite ever phrase: "City Trash."

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 21 March 2005 23:57 (twenty-one years ago)

I guess there's that famous thing about The Shawshank Redemption - how does he put the poster back after escaping from his cell?And that he wore a suit tailored for a man who was one foot shorter.

― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Tuesday, 22 March 2005 00:06 (twenty-one years ago)

The flaw I don't like about the Big Leibowski is that it's a flagrant rip-off of Long Goodbye, and never credits its influence. I think they're both good movies, but I also think it's a shame how much the Coens yank influence and don't give proper props.

― Remy (x Jeremy), Tuesday, 22 March 2005 00:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Really? Did you get a chance to watch the "Making of" doc on the DVD, Jeremy?

― Ken L (Ken L), Tuesday, 22 March 2005 00:52 (twenty-one years ago)

On the Leibowski DVD?

― Remy (x Jeremy), Tuesday, 22 March 2005 01:10 (twenty-one years ago)

Yup. Because they say in so many words that it's basically a Raymond Chandler story.

― Ken L (Ken L), Tuesday, 22 March 2005 01:23 (twenty-one years ago)

the Coens come up mad proper to pay all sorts of royalties to Homer laters on.

― Silky Sensor (sexyDancer), Tuesday, 22 March 2005 01:43 (twenty-one years ago)

in the conversation, his sax playing at the end should have been heart-rendingly heartfelt and BAD!! (no one agrees w.me abt this)

― mark s (mark s), Tuesday, 22 March 2005 11:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Sounds good to me.

― Ken L (Ken L), Tuesday, 22 March 2005 14:27 (twenty-one years ago)

'the big lebowski' is more like um-um-um 'the big sleep', surely? not that it matters. *maybe* it's in the same groove as altman's 'long goodbye'. but it is also in the same groove as 'kingpin' and 'citizen kane' and and and

― N_RQ, Tuesday, 22 March 2005 14:33 (twenty-one years ago)

ooh ooh speakin of altman's LONG GOODBYE: i utterly heart this movie obv, soup to nuts, BUT nina whatsname who plays the writer's wife bites off half her lines: she is "english" and i suspect wz totally told to PLAY THIS UP --- her diction is def the WENDY KROY HICCUP of "long goodbye"

between her, sterling hayden playing a drunkard by means of actually BEING a drunkard, and elliott g himself, the clash of actin styles becomes a bit way disorientatin

on the other hand: check out henry gibson as the quack doctor running across the flowerbed hile trying to pretend he isn't running!! one of my favourite moments from any movie any time

― mark s (mark s), Tuesday, 22 March 2005 14:54 (twenty-one years ago)

i always SUSPECT thrillers/procedurals of having unnecessary snags in the plot architecture, but my ability to concentrate on the basics of how the hero gets from Clue A to Clue B is usually too deficient to actually spot them.

― jones (actual), Tuesday, 22 March 2005 16:56 (twenty-one years ago)

(i don't really see holes in the plot-machinery as flaws)

― mark s (mark s), Tuesday, 22 March 2005 17:02 (twenty-one years ago)

SUPERMAN SPINS THE EARTH BACKWARDS

― s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 22 March 2005 17:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Sterling Hayden bananas in that role. But then again he's always bananas- Jack D. Ripper, the angry harpoon-wielding vengeance seeker in Terror In A Texas Town, the (unknowingly space-ark-contained) village elder in the Starlost pilot. Even Johnny Guitar was a little weird.

The guy who played the tough guy boss, Mark Rydell was it? went on to become a director and directed The Rose and the James Dean biopic with James Franco.

― Ken L (Ken L), Tuesday, 22 March 2005 17:15 (twenty-one years ago)

The Quentin Tarentino/Harvey Keitel bit in Pulp Fiction. Moves nothing forward, contains the most racially uncomfortable bit of dialog in the last twenty years of film (and sticks it in the writer/director's mouth), has the weakest of the big shock moments in a film full of them, and isn't even an interesting Keitel performance.

― Colin Meeder (Mert), Tuesday, 22 March 2005 17:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Somehow I am reminded of this thread.

― Ken L (Ken L), Tuesday, 22 March 2005 17:34 (twenty-one years ago)

I really can't imagine why, unless yer dumb or something.

― Colin Meeder (Mert), Tuesday, 22 March 2005 18:00 (twenty-one years ago)

ooh, bitchy!

― Silky Sensor (sexyDancer), Tuesday, 22 March 2005 18:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Sorry, Colin, that was an xpost. I don't disagree with you. I was really responding to mark s's last comment.

― Ken L (Ken L), Tuesday, 22 March 2005 19:01 (twenty-one years ago)

― mark s (mark s), Tuesday, 22 March 2005 19:06 (twenty-one years ago)

OK, OK, I completely misread you as saying the opposite of what you were in fact saying. I am sorry.

― Colin Meeder (Mert), Tuesday, 22 March 2005 19:09 (twenty-one years ago)

the moving, swirling subtitles, that sometimes vanish behind characters, or subtitle words spoken in english (that the audience is supposed to memorize???) - i am unsure whether they are a flaw of nu-"man on fire", or if the movie is a flaw of the subtitles

― fe zaffe (fezaffe), Tuesday, 22 March 2005 19:12 (twenty-one years ago)

OK, now I have confused everybody. I wasn't disagreeing with m sinker either. See this post on the other thread. And see if some third person, some third man, doesn't take offense this time.

― Ken L (Ken L), Tuesday, 22 March 2005 19:18 (twenty-one years ago)

I killed it. Superman, spin the thread backwards!

― Ken L (Ken L), Tuesday, 22 March 2005 19:48 (twenty-one years ago)

one year passes...

haha RECURSION THEORY ALERT the flaw in this thread thanks to my "no spoilers" decision is that i have no recollection any more what the "wendy kroy" flaw

― mark s (mark s), Friday, 5 January 2007 03:03 (nineteen years ago)

― mark s (mark s), Friday, 5 January 2007 03:05 (nineteen years ago)

the flaw is that you think LAST SEDUCTION is nearly flawless

― timmy tannin (pompous), Friday, 5 January 2007 03:08 (nineteen years ago)

― mark s (mark s), Friday, 5 January 2007 03:12 (nineteen years ago)

New York poster in mirror. that's not really a spoiler but this flaw in TLS has always bugged me too. Linda Fiorentino is incredible in this film.

― jed_ (jed), Friday, 5 January 2007 03:18 (nineteen years ago)

i can't even remember it now you've said it and EVEN SO IT ANNOYS ME

― mark s (mark s), Friday, 5 January 2007 03:20 (nineteen years ago)

Hi Mark!

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 5 January 2007 05:48 (nineteen years ago)

the shawshank redemption thing is obvious, he just pins the poster up in the top 2 corners!

― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 5 January 2007 05:54 (nineteen years ago)

three years pass...

was gonna say

― ice cr?m, Friday, 12 March 2010 03:05 (sixteen years ago)

mark s was/is really something

― jed_, Friday, 12 March 2010 03:15 (sixteen years ago)

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