but yeah tacking on a trad fist-in-the-air we-the-people ending to a story that ended on a vague, disquieting, totally unresolved note was always gonna be an ugh.
― strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Wednesday, 15 June 2011 19:28 (twelve years ago) link
haha on the plus side we were spared stephen rea's lsd revelation at larkhill
― strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Wednesday, 15 June 2011 19:29 (twelve years ago) link
i love alan moore like a crackpot grandpa but dude never did get over the 60s
― strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Wednesday, 15 June 2011 19:30 (twelve years ago) link
ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS LOOK AT THE PICTURES TO SEE HOW TO STAGE IT
tbf it doesn't sound like this worked so well with Watchmen... (I wouldn't know, as I have no interest in exposing my eyeballs to any of the horrible abortions Zack Snyder puts on screen)
― lots of janitors have something to say (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 15 June 2011 19:31 (twelve years ago) link
Moore's work is not aging well at all imo.
― Mr. Patrick Batman (WmC), Wednesday, 15 June 2011 19:33 (twelve years ago) link
watchmen is great, i haven't seen this, can't muster up any enthusiasm for it.
― beta the drivel you know (darraghmac), Wednesday, 15 June 2011 19:36 (twelve years ago) link
well the thing about "staging"/"pacing" in comics is that yr brain still has to do the fill in work between panels. moore's 80s stuff reads really "slow" to me (not a bad thing and totally fitting with the stories) as much to do with the art style as anything. but i guess if yr zach snyder you read that inexorable one panel at a time gibbons pacing as slsmbangpow action, prolly because zach snyder sees everything in life that way.
― strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Wednesday, 15 June 2011 19:38 (twelve years ago) link
anyone got any insight as to why the imagery from this film keeps getting adopted by several revolutionary / protest movements across Europe / Egypt / US? I skipped it because it looked horrible, but it seems to keep coming up on news sites so it's looking like something I've got to see
― Milton Parker, Wednesday, 15 June 2011 19:43 (twelve years ago) link
Well, the imagery is arresting.
― anarcho-misogynist puppies (DJP), Wednesday, 15 June 2011 19:44 (twelve years ago) link
AND the movie made over $130 million, so a lot of ppl saw it.
― anarcho-misogynist puppies (DJP), Wednesday, 15 June 2011 19:45 (twelve years ago) link
also natalie portman does a full-nude striptease to motorhead
― strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Wednesday, 15 June 2011 19:46 (twelve years ago) link
right, there's that
― anarcho-misogynist puppies (DJP), Wednesday, 15 June 2011 19:46 (twelve years ago) link
anyone got any insight as to why the imagery from this film keeps getting adopted by several revolutionary / protest movements across Europe / Egypt / US?/
it has a scene in which unarmed protesters successfully face down tanks and armed men, bringing down a brutal authoritarian regime.
― The New Dirty Vicar, Wednesday, 15 June 2011 19:52 (twelve years ago) link
I quite like the film. In some ways it is like the book, and in other ways it is not.
― The New Dirty Vicar, Wednesday, 15 June 2011 19:53 (twelve years ago) link
also this was a surprisingly middle-class revolution and they are internet nerds
― my Sonicare toothbrush (difficult listening hour), Wednesday, 15 June 2011 19:53 (twelve years ago) link
re-read his Swamp Thing run recently and that is still a ton of fun
― lots of janitors have something to say (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 15 June 2011 19:54 (twelve years ago) link
uh unarmed except for a train loaded with dynamite that blows up the houses of parliament
― lots of janitors have something to say (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 15 June 2011 19:55 (twelve years ago) link
(a sequence which - in case it wasn't obvious from my comments above - is most definitely NOT in the book)
i remember seeing that sequence and thinking "yknow all this needs is more slo mo and a moody pixies song"
― lemon kerrang! (jjjusten), Wednesday, 15 June 2011 20:09 (twelve years ago) link
― Milton Parker, Wednesday, June 15, 2011 3:43 PM
u mean the grinning mask? feel like it was first adopted by 4chan/Anonymous as their way of hiding their identity when protesting against Scientology and then spread from there
― am0n, Wednesday, 15 June 2011 20:09 (twelve years ago) link
looooooool
― strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Wednesday, 15 June 2011 20:09 (twelve years ago) link
@ justen
― strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Wednesday, 15 June 2011 20:10 (twelve years ago) link
movie's not over until something's blowed up amirite
― lots of janitors have something to say (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 15 June 2011 20:17 (twelve years ago) link
i would have also accepted the ubiquitous "DAH-dah-dah DAH-dah-dah dah-dah, DAH-DAH-DAH DAH-DAH-DAH-DAH-DAH" end pan-out 28 days later music.
― lemon kerrang! (jjjusten), Wednesday, 15 June 2011 20:17 (twelve years ago) link
more modern movies need to end with "THE END...?"
― strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Wednesday, 15 June 2011 20:20 (twelve years ago) link
xpost amon, makes sense. probably most of the times I saw the mask being used were 4chan/Anonymous things hitting my internet-peripheral vision. but when I saw it popping up in the middle east as well, I felt like I was missing something.
well that'll do it -- sounds like a contemporary crowd pleaser. I'll be checking it out, it's just silly I found the time for Speed Racer and skipped something like this
― Milton Parker, Wednesday, 15 June 2011 20:22 (twelve years ago) link
this can lead to things like the Transformers franchise
― anarcho-misogynist puppies (DJP), Wednesday, 15 June 2011 20:23 (twelve years ago) link
V Will Return In...The Spy Who Loved V
― da croupier, Wednesday, 15 June 2011 20:24 (twelve years ago) link
t/s "THE END?" vs "THE END" followed by a 5 second pause at which point the question mark dissolves into view
― lemon kerrang! (jjjusten), Wednesday, 15 June 2011 20:26 (twelve years ago) link
it really depends on the film. If you're talking Inception the former, Black Swan the latter.
― da croupier, Wednesday, 15 June 2011 20:28 (twelve years ago) link
― Milton Parker, Wednesday, June 15, 2011 4:22 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark
speed racer was awesome!
― (.づ☀‿☀)づ ~da post-modernist struggle~ (.づ☀‿☀)づ (Princess TamTam), Wednesday, 15 June 2011 20:30 (twelve years ago) link
still haven't seen "Speed Racer"
― anarcho-misogynist puppies (DJP), Wednesday, 15 June 2011 20:30 (twelve years ago) link
sequel to V for Vendetta would've been awesome. bunch of nerds in masks trying to make the trains run on time while ogling Natalie Portman's ass
― lots of janitors have something to say (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 15 June 2011 20:31 (twelve years ago) link
the villain in speed racer is literally christopher hitchens
― (.づ☀‿☀)づ ~da post-modernist struggle~ (.づ☀‿☀)づ (Princess TamTam), Wednesday, 15 June 2011 20:35 (twelve years ago) link
so is (one of) the villains in V for Vendetta
dudes are the most inept filmmakers, dunno what anybody sees in them tbh
― lots of janitors have something to say (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 15 June 2011 20:40 (twelve years ago) link
the first 1.75 Matrix movies are amazing
― anarcho-misogynist puppies (DJP), Wednesday, 15 June 2011 20:42 (twelve years ago) link
man i caught the matrix for the first time in eons the other night and i forgot what a balls-out patchwork of other people's ideas it is. those guys have NO SHAME.
― strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Wednesday, 15 June 2011 20:44 (twelve years ago) link
^^^
― lots of janitors have something to say (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 15 June 2011 20:45 (twelve years ago) link
I didn't see it until years later and... yeah, it just annoyed me.
i kinda enjoyed it for just how shameless it was.
― strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Wednesday, 15 June 2011 20:46 (twelve years ago) link
I said it has A SCENE in which protesters face down tanks, not that this is the only thing that happens in the film. If that was the only thing that happened in the film it would probably be a bit boring.
― The New Dirty Vicar, Wednesday, 15 June 2011 20:48 (twelve years ago) link
it just seems so sloppy. once you get past the novelty of "ooh look they're quoting Beaudrillard!" it's just kind of a mess of ideas that don't really fit together in a coherent way. and, not being a goth, I don't swoon over people in trenchcoats and sunglasses shooting at each other in the rain or whatever... I got a similar cognitive dissonance thing with Inception, where the characters are occupying an imagined/dreamed world but their dreams are all so action-movie conventional.
xp
― lots of janitors have something to say (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 15 June 2011 20:50 (twelve years ago) link
or, y'know, people are in a war against machines so what tools are they using? more machines. oh, yeah that seems like a bright idea.
― lots of janitors have something to say (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 15 June 2011 20:51 (twelve years ago) link
yes but you go into entertainment predisposed to hate it
― anarcho-misogynist puppies (DJP), Wednesday, 15 June 2011 20:52 (twelve years ago) link
(nb: that was not a serious comment)
― anarcho-misogynist puppies (DJP), Wednesday, 15 June 2011 20:53 (twelve years ago) link
This was one of the first ILE threads in which I participated!
― The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 15 June 2011 21:12 (twelve years ago) link
i don't know the source material at all but this movie was ridiculously bad
― horseshoe, Wednesday, 15 June 2011 21:14 (twelve years ago) link
i saw it with friends and said something like, "well that was a turd" as we walked out and they were all >:[. it turned out they all liked it. i learned a valuable lesson about stfu that day.
― horseshoe, Wednesday, 15 June 2011 21:15 (twelve years ago) link
lol
― (.づ☀‿☀)づ ~da post-modernist struggle~ (.づ☀‿☀)づ (Princess TamTam), Wednesday, 15 June 2011 21:16 (twelve years ago) link
If the screenwriters had rewritten the movie so that Stephen Fry was the Big Brother, then it would have been awesome.
― The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 15 June 2011 21:17 (twelve years ago) link