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First off, let me say that I've been a Mac user for years. But lately I've been incredibly disappointed with their service.

I won't bore you with a number of issues with tech support from both Apple Stores and the telephone support during a recent Xserv purchase for my company.

Now I have an iPod issue. I've had the iPod for eight months & the LCD screen suddenly stopped working. I brought it into my local Mac reseller & they thought they could put a new LCD screen in. Turns out they didn't have a 4th generation screen. So they charged me $25 to waste my time.

So they tell me to go online & register to send it in to Mac for repair. The online site leads me through about 15 pages before it tells me "can't verify serial number". I try again. No luck.

The site gives me a number to call for tech support. I ended up speaking to a woman who could speak very little english, but I beared with it. She told me my warranty was expired, that it was a six-month warranty (which is bullshit) and tried to sell me a two-year Apple Care plan. I said no, the warranty is one year and I didn't want Apple Care.

So then she tells me, yes, it's a one-year plan for online support, not for phone support. I didn't see anything about that in the warranty, and I told her the only reason I was calling was because the website didn't work. So she told me she could have it sent in for repair, but it would cost $30 for shipping & handling. I said that was fine. She again went into sales pitch about Apple Care which I said I had no interest in.

She then put me on hold for 10 more minutes (after originally being on hold twice that long) to "check" something. She then started to process the claim & told me a box would be sent to my house in 48 hours & I gave her my address. She then said she was having an issue with the serial number in the computer & that she would have to get back to me and hung up. She never took my phone number.

I then called back to try to speak with someone slightly more competent, waited another 15 minutes & some jackass picks up the phone doing the "pinched-nose-nasal-voice" thing---"Hello, this is Robert, can I start with your first name". I answered him and even spelled it out. His answer--"Hello, this is Robert, can I start with your first name". I repeated it, thinking he might not have heard me. Again he says -"Hello, this is Robert, can I start with your first name". So this time I just hung up on the fucking smart-ass.

So now the wait to see if I ever get the package. Sorry for the rant, but I don't know what the hell is going on with that company & I'm about ready to make "switch" back to PC.

jay blanchard (jay blanchard), Friday, 4 March 2005 22:01 (fifteen years ago) link



IRATE MAMA (Dan Perry), Friday, 4 March 2005 22:05 (fifteen years ago) link

ha ha ha!

The Argunaut (sexyDancer), Friday, 4 March 2005 22:06 (fifteen years ago) link

Gwyn named her kid Apple?

Aaron A., Friday, 4 March 2005 22:07 (fifteen years ago) link

I had just as bad customer service when I called about an issue with my ipod. Plus, as Tom had ranted about on another thread, i found their OS has been going downhill over the last few years. I've been using Mac for about 7 years now and am starting to get really sick of their bullshit. To this day thinking about the awful customer "support" i endured last year makes me so angry i want to sucker punch the next apple employee I see.

Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 4 March 2005 22:09 (fifteen years ago) link


cutty (mcutt), Friday, 4 March 2005 22:11 (fifteen years ago) link

pc companies aren't better tho. getting my hp fixed last fall was a nightmore.

hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 4 March 2005 22:11 (fifteen years ago) link

Gwyn named her kid Apple?

All too true.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 4 March 2005 22:11 (fifteen years ago) link

calling ILX for tech support works like a charm. :)

The Argunaut (sexyDancer), Friday, 4 March 2005 22:12 (fifteen years ago) link

The OS keeps getting better and better and they fixed our iBook well out of warranty for free, although my brother had some issues getting an LCD panel replaced. I've heard some tales of woe on the support front though. The OS is the best desktop OS by far, though.

Ed (dali), Friday, 4 March 2005 22:15 (fifteen years ago) link

haha i've decided that my next computer (which i have to buy this year) will be a mac because the few times i've dealt with apple tech support they've been nothing but helpful and responsive, which is way more than i can say for the no-name-pc-manufacturer jerkwads i'm dealing with right now.

jbr (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 4 March 2005 22:31 (fifteen years ago) link

xypost: why don't you have any interest in Apple Care? it seems to be what you need.

The Argunaut (sexyDancer), Friday, 4 March 2005 22:35 (fifteen years ago) link

Maybe he doesn't have $60 to spare?

Fish fingers all in a line (kenan), Friday, 4 March 2005 22:40 (fifteen years ago) link

good, smart jody

adam.r.l. (nordicskilla), Friday, 4 March 2005 22:41 (fifteen years ago) link

I sometimes wonder how Apple make any profit at all. For every computer they sell you, they seem to end up paying for two. The iBook Ed mentions used to be mine, and I was ready to throw it out because half of it wasn't working. It was also outside its guarantee period. But Ed and Suzy managed to get Apple to replace CD drive, keyboard, screen...

Apple replaced my new iBook's motherboard while I was in Japan. That's hundreds of dollars worth, at no charge to me. Of course, it shouldn't have failed within six months in the first place...

Momus (Momus), Friday, 4 March 2005 22:41 (fifteen years ago) link

i also immediately thought of gwentyh paltrow's child. how sad.

Miss Misery (thatgirl), Friday, 4 March 2005 22:42 (fifteen years ago) link

It's like they say, Love the product, hate the service.

ffirehorse (firehorse), Friday, 4 March 2005 22:42 (fifteen years ago) link

how much for ibook battery, 3-4 years old?

adam.r.l. (nordicskilla), Friday, 4 March 2005 22:42 (fifteen years ago) link

I sometimes wonder how Apple make any profit at all.

That's why they charge you double upfront!

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 4 March 2005 22:43 (fifteen years ago) link

Best decision I made computer wise was to buy my powerbook at John Lewis .: free two year extended warranty. Extended warranties/apple care are well worth it where laptops are concerned.

Ed (dali), Friday, 4 March 2005 22:43 (fifteen years ago) link

there's always the radio
*makes 'what me worry' gesture*

The Argunaut (sexyDancer), Friday, 4 March 2005 22:44 (fifteen years ago) link

xypost: why don't you have any interest in Apple Care? it seems to be what you need.

Because I don't believe in a company making you pay for a warantee that should be offered for free upfront. I was under the impression that a one-year warantee meant that if something goes wrong in the first year, they actually fix the thing, not put you on the phone with several douchebags who are trying to sell you additional warantees.

Shit, when the first warantee doesn't seem to work, why would I want to buy another one?

jay blanchard (jay blanchard), Friday, 4 March 2005 23:53 (fifteen years ago) link

I had problems with the Apple Store when I tried to order my iPod from them, but when I cancelled the order, they were very good about it. My iBook had one of the faulty logic boards, and they replaced it several times for free, in addition to doing some repairs which were apparently not supposed to be free. So I'm content with them.

But it does sound like you have a problem with your serial number, Jay.

Casuistry (Chris P), Saturday, 5 March 2005 00:00 (fifteen years ago) link

his problem with the serial number is that he probably never registered the durned thing.

cutty (mcutt), Saturday, 5 March 2005 00:06 (fifteen years ago) link

i also had a problem with entering my ipod's serial number on the website. but what happened to me was that i bought a "pre-owned" ipod from the apple store and when the original owner returned it the store, that serial number apparently got, um, voided or something. no matter; i went back to the apple store and the genius bar genius was happy to solve my problem.

jbr (Jody Beth Rosen), Saturday, 5 March 2005 00:16 (fifteen years ago) link

there's nothing more retarded i can think of, business-wise, than how the genius bar was closed for like 2 weeks before christmas this past year. good job, jobs! way to alienate your clientele!

tho when i was waiting there, i did see todd oldham.

hstencil (hstencil), Saturday, 5 March 2005 00:20 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah, the genius bar in Seattle closed during Christmas shopping mayhem. Major bummer. I have had nothing but good luck to this point with Apple. They've sent me 3 replacement remotes for my iPod, all at no cost to me, without me proving my others were damaged. Simple online form. Apple Care is essential for any Apple purchase. They recently replaced my iPod with a new one in about 20 minutes time at the Genius bar. Neither the remotes or iPod should have busted in the first place, but they did replace them with ease and very little questioning.

biznotic, Saturday, 5 March 2005 02:10 (fifteen years ago) link

ed OTM, about john lewis's one year warranty extension.

RJG (RJG), Saturday, 5 March 2005 02:36 (fifteen years ago) link

All apple products have a one year warranty and 90 day tech support, pretty standard in the computer industry. You want more, pay for more.

Ed (dali), Saturday, 5 March 2005 06:51 (fifteen years ago) link

I have gotten to the point where I just equate Apple with Audi and Volkswagen, great product, love it when it works, when it breaks, fuck yourself.

TOMBOT, Saturday, 5 March 2005 20:08 (fifteen years ago) link

Try getting your $300 back after paying for a repair they are now refunding everyone for (ibook logic board). Grrr. It pisses me off because at the time of my problems, they acted as if I was the only person encountering such difficulties, in spite of my reading otherwise on the internets. They are now claiming the repair that took them two tries to fix is not in their records.

amandasc, Saturday, 5 March 2005 20:38 (fifteen years ago) link

Most American PC manufacturers include 1 year of tech support.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Saturday, 5 March 2005 22:12 (fifteen years ago) link

As a volkswagen driver with a dodgy fuel pump I feel that analogy.

Ed (dali), Saturday, 5 March 2005 22:21 (fifteen years ago) link

I've been using APPLE computers since 1985 and have never had a problem.

Orbit (Orbit), Sunday, 6 March 2005 21:02 (fifteen years ago) link

Exactly what Orbit said. And what Ed said regarding OSX--it's by far the best desktop OS, and nothing comes close.

My tech experience with Apple has been sensational. A friend called me today to tell me that his mini iPod was replaced in less than five business days, and he also got the new generation mini in place of his old one that had died. No charge.

I've dealt with Dell and Gateway and their CSRs are no better than Apple's. HPs can blow me, they've sucked.

don weiner, Sunday, 6 March 2005 23:22 (fifteen years ago) link

whoever has been using Apples since whenever and loves it can eat a dick.

the desktop I have at work running XP has been up and alive for 2 years with barely any reboots. It does everything I want it to do, does it quickly, and I can navigate painlessly without ever touching the mouse if I feel like it.

I was raised on Apple and my first job was DTP on a Mac, followed by audio editing on a Mac, more DTP, and so on. OS 7+ had more than its share of problems and stupid quirks but the hardware was rock solid and at least its behavior was predictable.

Since getting my latest-edition powerbook I've put it through little more than I ever tried to do with my old OS

TOMBOT, Monday, 14 March 2005 17:18 (fifteen years ago) link

Oh weird that post got completely chopped in half.


TOMBOT, Monday, 14 March 2005 17:21 (fifteen years ago) link

Fuck it.
Keeps mistaking the rest of my post for an HTML statement. Now it's lost to the ether. All computers are stupid and worthless, except that old LC & Quadra we had running 6.0.7 - 7.7, those were pretty stable builds as I recall.

My old Quadra used to have a TV Tuner in it and be able to do image captures from live cable broadcasts, then I could import them into my cheap, incredibly easy to use paint program and do whatever with them. I believe it cost approximately half of what my laptop did! My laptop lets me chat and surf the internet. And rip CDs.

TOMBOT, Monday, 14 March 2005 17:25 (fifteen years ago) link


TOMBOT, Monday, 14 March 2005 17:49 (fifteen years ago) link

In case anyone is wondering what this is all about, I have had "issues" with my laptop since purchasing it (A YEAR AGO, THINGS THAT COST $2000 SHOULDN'T DIE IN A YEAR), mainly that if I put it to sleep via either apple menu->sleep or by shutting the cover, I've got no better than a 50-50 chance the fucker will wake up again.

Well today it decided it wasn't going to wake up again, ever, as I'm being greeted with a totally white screen.

What's funny is that like doing searches on my own to try to figure out wtf this computer is doing right now (I mean not even the sad face x-eye Mac or the question mark Mac! NOTHING AT ALL! WHITE SCREEN! I know how to handle the other things!), everyone who is reporting similar issues to me is like bitching about how they have all this important blah blah blah they were doing with the Mac prior hand. Is it that no one who has this failure who is only using their Mac for chat, porn, and MP3s can be bothered to get in on the discussions, or is it because they don't die if that's all you use it for? Because yeah, it seems like my sleep problem increases tenfold whenever I've been using my iBook more for writing or photo work. If all I've done on the damn thing is use iChat for two weeks, no problems whatsoever with starting it up, back when it, uh, started up.

What does this imply??? Is there like some inherent instability in the majority of the "native" programs that come bundled with OSX or is this just really fucked up coincidence?

Also it seems that this particular issue with the iBook G3 was so bad they threw the whole "your warranty is expired, give us $500" shenanigans out the window, and searching on this same issue with "Powerbook" has not given me the same results--ARE IBOOKS PIECES OF SHIT? wtf?

Allyzay, Monday, 14 March 2005 17:59 (fifteen years ago) link

As an aside, I noted that my computer was purchased a year ago, actually a year and 3 weeks, making it out of warranty now. Every. Single. Computer. I. Have. Ever. Owned.* Has. Done. This. Do they design computers to die at warranty, in general? Because it is not just me who has reported this ridiculous situation going on, and I'm starting to think that if this is going to be the case, wasting my money on a pricey computer with only a single year warranty is not worth the hassle, since all other brands have 3-4 year standard warranties, so at least I'll get 3 years out of it, instead of 1, before this message will self-destruct.

*with the exception of my ancient PowerMac that I had when I was 14-15-16, which only died because my sister is a dick.

I am pretty close to deciding to become the female Punisher, except murdering computer firms, instead of bad guys.

Allyzay, Monday, 14 March 2005 18:02 (fifteen years ago) link

although the best customer service story I have ever been witness to was in an Apple store, when our friend J0sh had a bunch of seemingly sensible questions about using X type of Mac as a server, they made sense to the rest of us, and the sales guy just blurted at him "YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT"

And then kind of ran away????

That was pretty funny.

Allyzay, Monday, 14 March 2005 18:10 (fifteen years ago) link

I have a friend who just got a job repairing computers at Tekserve. He just started last week so I'm leery about hitting him up for favors, but the hitting up will be happening, oh yes it will. I would be happy to serve as an intermediate hitter-upper for your computer, Ally.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 14 March 2005 18:24 (fifteen years ago) link

I used to get the sleeping-no-wakey-wakey problem when I was using the last Photoshop build (pre-CS or whatever the newest is called) fairly heavily, but it fixed itself at some point. I have no idea what was going on or how/why it stopped happening.

milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Monday, 14 March 2005 18:41 (fifteen years ago) link

we just set up a netgear router modem! YfriggingAfriggingY!

nathalie barefoot in the head (stevie nixed), Monday, 14 March 2005 18:46 (fifteen years ago) link

I am looking over the system 7 window I posted up above and trying to figure out what they've improved since then! Help!

TOMBOT, Monday, 14 March 2005 18:47 (fifteen years ago) link

The graphics. If you have to ask, you're obv. a Windows person.

sunburned and snowblind (kenan), Monday, 14 March 2005 18:49 (fifteen years ago) link


RJG (RJG), Monday, 14 March 2005 18:50 (fifteen years ago) link

Ha yeah, otm on the latter.

Scampidocio (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 13 July 2020 19:40 (two days ago) link

Someone else is paying for me get a new, small laptop for general writing/internet use but also some coding and Jupyter Notebooks, etc.

planning to procure a macbook pro, but is it better (if forced to choose) to privilege the fastest processor possible, or the most RAM?

sean gramophone, Monday, 13 July 2020 19:49 (two days ago) link

For light work you won’t notice a difference in processors.
Having a lot of RAM makes the computer snappier overall, able to have more programs open at the same time, etc

calstars, Monday, 13 July 2020 20:14 (two days ago) link

don't get an MBP, MBPs are bricks
get an air like a regular person

sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Monday, 13 July 2020 20:20 (two days ago) link

even if doing some light ML/coding stuff stuff? it's not just going to be an internet machine

sean gramophone, Monday, 13 July 2020 20:22 (two days ago) link

we're looking at getting a new laptop too for my wife to use for work, and i'd rather get an air but a 13" screen is just too small for real work

na (NA), Monday, 13 July 2020 20:24 (two days ago) link

run your machine learning in the cloud imo

all cats are beautiful (silby), Monday, 13 July 2020 20:49 (two days ago) link

yes, the heavy processing all happens there

sean gramophone, Monday, 13 July 2020 21:58 (two days ago) link

Would I not notice the difference between a MBA and MBP running Adobe Lightroom?

Alba, Monday, 13 July 2020 22:08 (two days ago) link

Bricks? The pro weighs like an ounce more.

dan selzer, Monday, 13 July 2020 22:19 (two days ago) link

Would I not notice the difference between a MBA and MBP running Adobe Lightroom?
i use LR as a hobby and yeah you would probably notice a slight lag, but maybe not enough to justify the extra $$$ unless you’re doing batch processing ?

calstars, Monday, 13 July 2020 22:32 (two days ago) link

I’m a machine learning engineer. Get an mba. Max out ram then disk then cpu in that order.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 13 July 2020 22:56 (two days ago) link

MBP was the right choice for me. my laptop (even pre-covid) moved between my home office and my living room, so size and weight were pretty much irrelevant.

lukas, Monday, 13 July 2020 23:25 (two days ago) link

Mbps are pointy slabs and have touchbar. They suck.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 13 July 2020 23:28 (two days ago) link

but the fan noise makes me feel like I'm piloting a jet! whooooooooo

lukas, Tuesday, 14 July 2020 00:41 (yesterday) link

Tracer - sadly my only solution to your problem - copy all the song mp3s into its own folder, make a playlist in VLC, then export the m3u, zip it all up.

Nhex, Tuesday, 14 July 2020 01:28 (yesterday) link

Thank you Nhex

Little things like this really make me feel like we took a wrong turn with computers somewhere. It's 2020. It should be easy to share a playlist of music with my wife in the default application of the richest computer company in the world.

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 14 July 2020 07:59 (yesterday) link

No problem. Sadly, I feel like this is one of those things that happened by design - Apple likely doesn't want users sending music to anyone else, going back to the P2P sharing days. At least they lost the DRM fight, I suppose.

Nhex, Tuesday, 14 July 2020 08:09 (yesterday) link

Yes I'm sure that's right.

You can do 'Home Sharing' but both devices need to be signed in with the same iCloud account i believe.

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 14 July 2020 08:37 (yesterday) link

does this process not work for exporting the playlist? Apologies if I misunderstood the requirement:

assert (MatthewK), Tuesday, 14 July 2020 08:52 (yesterday) link

(and Show in Finder for each of the tracks so you can drag to a USB)

assert (MatthewK), Tuesday, 14 July 2020 08:54 (yesterday) link

Ah that's nice. I'd still need to manually copy the songs as a separate operation though, I think? i.e. save them out, Airdrop, go over to her computer, drag into Music. But this will help get the playlist in order quickly once I've done that without using VLC or something else.

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 14 July 2020 08:59 (yesterday) link

Yeah - if you go through the list and press cmd-shift-R (for reveal) you will bring up a Finder window with the track file highlighted, so you can right-click to Airdrop or drag it to a USB and copy it. Sucks that there's not a batch export but at least track files plus playlist should do it?

assert (MatthewK), Tuesday, 14 July 2020 09:01 (yesterday) link

No batch export? Not in Catalan yet but you’ve always been able to just drag songs out of iTunes directly into a finder window.

dan selzer, Tuesday, 14 July 2020 12:00 (yesterday) link

Yeah you can do that. And then I guess you export an XML playlist into that folder following the technique above. Then Airdrop all that. Then on the other computer drag contents of that folder into a new playlist in iTunes and if the XML is included in what you're dragging it... ought to work. Of course a computer could simplify that process. But no.

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 14 July 2020 12:30 (yesterday) link

burn a cd

akm, Tuesday, 14 July 2020 13:38 (yesterday) link

You lose all the ID3 data that way, but at least it would keep the tracks in order lol

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 14 July 2020 13:43 (yesterday) link

C30 C60 C90 Go!

assert (MatthewK), Tuesday, 14 July 2020 14:00 (yesterday) link

Man up and make a proper mix, ditch the tracklist and let the music speak.

dan selzer, Tuesday, 14 July 2020 15:10 (yesterday) link

tags for life

Nhex, Tuesday, 14 July 2020 15:12 (yesterday) link

dan you’re otm. easiest solution just one long file. i could even paste the tracklist into the lyrics field for old times’ sake.

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 14 July 2020 15:20 (yesterday) link

^ yeah pretty easy to do that in GarageBand

calstars, Tuesday, 14 July 2020 15:28 (yesterday) link

is there any reason not to buy a macbook from amazon instead of directly from apple (not an ethical question)

na (NA), Tuesday, 14 July 2020 20:15 (yesterday) link

I was about to say you’d have to jump through some hoops to get applecare but it appears they have it as an option when you buy on Amazon, so... no

solo scampito (mh), Tuesday, 14 July 2020 20:20 (yesterday) link

is applecare worth it? i find it confusing and am skeptical

na (NA), Tuesday, 14 July 2020 20:34 (yesterday) link

all insurance is a risk, one bad experience taught me to just go ahead and do it

Nhex, Tuesday, 14 July 2020 20:37 (yesterday) link

i never get it fwiw but it depends on individual circumstances (are you a dropper, do you have other insurance, how much is the hardware to replace, etc.)

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 14 July 2020 20:39 (yesterday) link

I haven’t done the newer one with accidental coverage on a laptop, but yeah.. it’s a gamble like all insurance

Basically if something dies on your mac after the initial warranty and it’s still under applecare they just fix it. I know people who have had the logic board die, I think I’ve only ever used it when I had a hard disk die over a decade ago.

solo scampito (mh), Tuesday, 14 July 2020 20:40 (yesterday) link

Apple care worth it for the air pods. Replace the batteries right before the two years are up = new air pods basically

calstars, Tuesday, 14 July 2020 20:40 (yesterday) link

I had an iMac that turned out to be a lemon once and now get AppleCare for everything basically. Go to store, get work done (or replacement issued), the end. It's really simple.

sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Tuesday, 14 July 2020 20:42 (yesterday) link

fwiw apple hardware has a one year warranty and if you live in a country with a working government (not the US) then you are covered by consumer protection law too. AFAICT applecare is useful in year 2+ or as accidental damage coverage. if you buy the hardware with a fancy credit card you probably get accidental damage coverage for 3-4 months too.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 14 July 2020 20:49 (yesterday) link

i don't really get the math. i saw a person online say they had to pay $400 to repair a cracked screen when they didn't have applecare. but applecare costs $379 for three years (on a macbook) and there's a $99 service fee for screen repairs so that's more than just paying for screen repair.

na (NA), Tuesday, 14 July 2020 20:49 (yesterday) link

It depends. I've never seriously cracked a phone screen, and usually replace a phone within 5 years; not so for my last several desktops. My last iMac had a power surge kill the hard drive, and I had to have it sent into a third party which cost me a lot more than than $130 for Applecare would have. I understand the cost of Applecare is much higher for phones and laptops, though, so harder decision.

Nhex, Tuesday, 14 July 2020 21:14 (yesterday) link

but what about the next three times you break the screen, huh?

solo scampito (mh), Tuesday, 14 July 2020 21:31 (yesterday) link

It's 2020. It should be easy to share a playlist of music with my wife in the default application of the richest computer company in the world.

These will do it:

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 15 July 2020 00:55 (sixteen hours ago) link

I've always gotten Applecare, and it paid off with my current iMac when an ant somehow managed to crawl under the monitor glass and die right in the middle of the screen.

Irritable Baal (WmC), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 01:02 (fifteen hours ago) link


all cats are beautiful (silby), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 02:20 (fourteen hours ago) link

ant killer

this has been the best year fuiud (rip van wanko), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 02:26 (fourteen hours ago) link

*obligatory tens of thousands of "my computer is buggy" unfunny jokes here*

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 15 July 2020 03:16 (thirteen hours ago) link

Elvis isn’t that the same as just dragging the files from the playlist to the Finder?

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 07:52 (nine hours ago) link

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