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markelby on Pacific, Pokerroom and William Hill.

A friend of mine came 4th in the £10K guaranteed at Hills last night - I watched him until I was practically asleep. £750 isn't bad considering he'd won his ticket in a £6 satellite.

Has anyone here played at ultimatebet? A friend of mine is promoting it aggressively, plus there's a good rakeback programme.

Markelby (Mark C), Friday, 28 October 2005 09:14 (eighteen years ago) link

what's rakeback?

ken c (ken c), Friday, 28 October 2005 09:24 (eighteen years ago) link

It's a scheme whereby you sign up with a rakeback provider and between 20 - 30% of the rake you personally pay on your hands is returned to your account. I don't have it on any of mine, annoyingly, but looking at my stats I've paid almost £800 in rake so far in my poker career so getting say £200 back would be pretty cool.

Markelby (Mark C), Friday, 28 October 2005 09:41 (eighteen years ago) link


And you can't get it retrospectively - and it's not available for all sites. But if you DO decide to sign up for a new site, make sure you look into its rakeback possibilities first - there are several aggregators of rakeback who you can sign up through. I'd recommend looking at the rakeback forums on flopturnriver.com for advice.

Markelby (Mark C), Friday, 28 October 2005 10:25 (eighteen years ago) link

i've been really good lately with getting the run of the cards and not getting bad beats. i like to think it's a combination of luck and my great risk assessment skills.

ken c (ken c), Friday, 28 October 2005 10:32 (eighteen years ago) link

Update time y'all!

I have won my last 2 (two) SNGs and I am playing in a big scary real-life tourney at a Soho members club tonight (I'm not a member but I have contacts, nowotimean). £30 buyin WITH REBUYS omg, but a very generous prize pool and only roughly 40 players. I am, to be fair, bricking myself, more about the social aspect of it (I'll know no-one and feel like a spare arse among all the hyper-confident coked-up TV producers and f-list celebs), but also because I am highly likely to come out of there £100 worse off than I went in.

Ah well, it's all good fun.

Markelby (Mark C), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 15:09 (eighteen years ago) link

I've just recently been getting into real life poker with some friends. The idea of online poker strikes me as rather depressing, somehow - surely it's a far less nuanced game?

chap who would dare to tell uninteresting celeb spotting stories (chap), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 15:14 (eighteen years ago) link

Well, I guess so - I'd never experienced live poker until recently so, for a while, it was all I knew. You don't get to make plays bbased on physical tells, though there are plenty of betting-related tells that you can still take advantage of - indeed, learning to do this effectively might bring an extra aspect to your live game.

You also naturally miss out on the entire social aspect of poker, although, tbh, I'm currently reading Anthony Holden's Big Deal about the year he spent as a poker pro, and the constant travelling, living out of a suitcase, and grinding $10/$20 limit for 18-hour stints sounds pretty depressing to me too.

Essentially, if you are stimulated by the game itself, then online poker can provide a lot of the best bits of playing combined with other positive attributes - it's much quicker, cheaper, with more choice, versatility, opportunities to put it on pause for an hour or two if you like; you can do other things while playing, you can sit in your pants and chuff whenever you like; and you can multi-table, which again speeds it up and also, if you're a winning player, ups your profit.

Markelby (Mark C), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 15:21 (eighteen years ago) link

Online poker possesses a different sort of nuance. A "son of a bitch, these fuckers will chase w/ any suited cards, won't they?; LET MY ROCKETS WIN DAMN YOU" sort of nuance.

Also, what Mark said. I played @ a table @ Foxwoods a month or so ago, and after I got over the initial jitters (OMG REAL PEOPLE!), it was great. Maybe I wouldn't be so woo-hoo about it if I didn't win, but whatever. And I think getting slapped down so often online made me much more aware of what could happen if I'm not careful or ever vigilant.

David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 15:31 (eighteen years ago) link

I've finally found a weekly live tournament. Last week, there were sixteen people seated at two tables in a kitchen. Good times.

I went out when I drew a straight and got beat by a full house. I basically wagered that Mr. Bluffy McBluff didn't have a pair of fives, but for once, he wasn't bluffing.

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 18:54 (eighteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...
holy shit guys!!!!

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ken c (ken c), Sunday, 27 November 2005 14:51 (eighteen years ago) link

say hi to the parishiltonists!
http://www.pokerroom.com/teams/teamInfo.php?iTeamID=4700

ken c (ken c), Sunday, 27 November 2005 14:52 (eighteen years ago) link

Already a member of a rival team, ken :)

I have, this weekend, switched my poker sites to ones that offer Rakeback (30% at Interpoker, which is a Cryptologic site like William Hill, where I've been playing for the last 6 months, and 35% at RakebackPoker, which is a Prima site). I calculated that this would have saved me about £250 had I done this when I started. Grr.

In other news, I am actually DOWN for November, which sux big donkey balls. 4 days to turn it round...

Markelby (Mark C), Sunday, 27 November 2005 17:10 (eighteen years ago) link

"Is a dream a lie if it don't come true,
or is it something worse that leads me to LOSING BECAUSE OF GODDAM SEVEN SHOWING UP ON THE RIVER GIVING MY OPPONENT TWO PAIR."

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Monday, 28 November 2005 07:31 (eighteen years ago) link

ken, i shall join the team soon.

bingo (Chris V), Monday, 28 November 2005 11:00 (eighteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...
yesterday i placed second in pokerroom's $50 tourney -- $1600!!! thank you transit strike!

Jams Murphy (ystrickler), Thursday, 22 December 2005 15:20 (eighteen years ago) link

Nice!

David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 22 December 2005 15:24 (eighteen years ago) link

wow!

ken c (ken c), Thursday, 22 December 2005 15:30 (eighteen years ago) link

So at the beginning of last month, I crunched some numbers. From February to July, I made about $600. From August to October, I lost $1400, mostly due to bad luck & me being stooopid.

So, starting early November, I vowed to only play 1 tourney / day, and if I lost, then so be it, that's my limit. I bought into a $10 NL tourney, finished in the top 20, won about $100 or so. Then I figured I'd give ring tables ($.25 NL) another chance. In November, I made up the deficit I was in, am now up $150 overall, and have yet to re-deposit any moolah. Of course, I've been in a holding pattern since my last withdrawal, but whatever.

David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 22 December 2005 15:30 (eighteen years ago) link

I've also flamed about 59230 people after bad beats or good beats or whenever I misjudge a situation & get burned. My typing hands move faster than my sense of decorum.

David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 22 December 2005 15:33 (eighteen years ago) link

yeah i flame people all the time these days. also my playing has been well shit - there was a purple patch when i was winning every single table tourney i was in or come 2nd. now i struggle to get to 3rd place. i think i'm getting too arrogant at times.

ken c (ken c), Thursday, 22 December 2005 15:35 (eighteen years ago) link

You made $1,000 in November? Holy Moly. You and Yancey are as hardcore as each other!

(good stuff y'all :))

I am currently treading water, which has lasted 3 months. Still £100 away from my Xmas target of a grand clear profit. Very frustrating indeed. I have also dabbled a little bit in limit - am just about up, I think, but it's really just an antidote to the terrifying ups and downs of my first love NL.

Haha Ken - I was having a great SNG run, then didn't finish ITM for 13 of the fuckers. This game is mental.

Markelby (Mark C), Thursday, 22 December 2005 15:35 (eighteen years ago) link

Every tourney I've been in of late has seemingly started me @ a table w/ at least 3 fuckwits chasing J4 offsuit and catching two pair on the river.

Also, to those of you that HIT THE WRONG BUTTON when I reraise big and catch your dream flop: eat one rotten cowpie.

David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 22 December 2005 16:15 (eighteen years ago) link

i played yesterday for the first time in months and finished 6th (just out of the money) in a three table $50 tourney! crapola!

ken i also submitted my app for team membership!

slow jamz and white guy indie acoustic shit (Chris V), Thursday, 22 December 2005 16:19 (eighteen years ago) link

It just occurred to me how much the very first sentence in this thread has changed my life. Cheers Chris, though the missus may not thank you quite so much!

Markelby (Mark C), Thursday, 22 December 2005 16:40 (eighteen years ago) link

Went out on a pair of aces this week. I'm actually beginning to think that's my least favorite hand.

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Thursday, 22 December 2005 18:39 (eighteen years ago) link

My bane hand is KK - too many times I've been hornswoggled by either AA, Ax, or a pocket pair turned trips on the flop. Gotta ride or die w/ it, tho, within reason. KK, that is.

Did you lose w/ AA because of the way you played or another player's stubbornness - if you have someone that's calling your big bets chasing a flush or straight that they inevitably catch, you can't do a damn thing except tip your hat and wish them eons of pain.

Yo Yancey! More info on your win, plz! How many folks in the tourney? Did you encounter any fish or donkeys or other forms of wildlife?

David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 22 December 2005 19:01 (eighteen years ago) link

In hindsight, and I always hate using those words talking about poker, but

In hindsight, I should've seen it coming. I had AA and the flop came up J-8-3. Soon as I raised, Johnny-on-the-spot immediately doubled his bet. He did it so quick. I just looked at him for a second, and called him anyway. He had J-J.

I should've figured that out, just the way he freakin' jumped in there like that. But when you got a pair of aces, you don't feel rightly mortal to those kind of sheniangans.

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Thursday, 22 December 2005 19:19 (eighteen years ago) link

well, it was about 300 people, $50+4. early on i pulled out a couple of tough all ins (a-k vs. 6-6 or something like that, w/ me on the ace) and i dodged a few bullets. didn't get GREAT cards, but did a good job of stealing blinds and pots on the flop. with 40 people left i was the chip leader w/ about 30,000 chips, and lost a couple of tough toss-ups. with about 15 people left i was down to $5k (blinds were about $2k at this point) and actually managed to steal some blinds with that small a stack (no one wanted to miss the top ten, when the money started getting legit). soon enough i was up to $15k and managed to keep scrapping. the big hand was w/ about 12 people left. i'm on the button, chip leader -- who played VERY loose -- quadruples the blind to $8k. i reraise the rest of my money -- another $20k -- with A-A. he calls and turns over q-10 (wtf?) and from there on out i was the chip leader or close to it. i thought i had first sewn up at one point. it was heads up, and i get dealt a-k as the first to act. he calls, i raise pre-flop. flop comes a-k-junk, with two clubs. i bet a small amount, he reraises all-in and i call, having him well covered. he shows 2-3 clubs, and he rivers a club of course. after a FULL HOUR of heads up he finally takes it. it was a blast.

Jams Murphy (ystrickler), Thursday, 22 December 2005 19:26 (eighteen years ago) link

and dudes i cannot get with the getting mad about hands thing. i mean sure, i get pissed too sometimes, but i WANT those idiots to call. seven out of ten times i'm gonna get their money!

Jams Murphy (ystrickler), Thursday, 22 December 2005 19:28 (eighteen years ago) link

i mean sure, i get pissed too sometimes, but i WANT those idiots to call.

Yeah, I know that intellectually, but I get too wound up when DoucheBoy hits his dream draw that I wig out and get all Matusowy on the guy. And then I get called "poopshits".

That tourney sounds awesome, BTW!

David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 22 December 2005 19:44 (eighteen years ago) link

KK is my death hand as well....fucking hate it. I lay it down instantly now.

slow jamz and white guy indie acoustic shit (Chris V), Thursday, 22 December 2005 21:35 (eighteen years ago) link

Everything is my jinx hand right now! I folded TPTK on the flop to a simple check raise earlier - my theory is that these amateurs only try it when they make a set or whatever.

Markelby (Mark C), Thursday, 22 December 2005 23:47 (eighteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...
I got $89 rakeback in December. Which means I've missed out on over $500 in rakeback since I started. That sucks!!

If anyone is interested (and it's just me talking about poker), I have a poker blog you can fnd here. Let me know what you think!

Markelby (Mark C), Friday, 6 January 2006 18:04 (eighteen years ago) link

Wherefore art thou gettingest this rakeback?

SNGs are teh suck for me. Been trying them lately - HOSE CITY. I did, however, manage to make it into the money in thee hot-to-trot 50K unlimited rebuy hoohah. Lucky me, I played when "only" 600 folks entered. Ended up finishing 55th or so, only because douchebag big stacked honker decided to call my AQ off AI preflop w/ AT suited, and he caught a flop featuring both a T and two suited cards. Jerk.

Nice bloggo, btw!

David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 6 January 2006 18:28 (eighteen years ago) link

FWIW: still haven't bought back in since November, still acting like a spoiled brat when I either get outfished or outplayed.

PS from my previous post - the buy in for that 50K was $30. I ended up winning $175!

David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 6 January 2006 18:29 (eighteen years ago) link

Nice going dude - I am terrifed by rebuys because a) they can cost a fortune and b) rich assholes will just go all in every hand and prevent you from actually playing poker!

I get the rakeback through a rakeback website who seem pretty decent. The downside is you can't get it on sites where you are already subscribed. However, if you swap to a site which does offer rakeback and uses the same network (e.g I used to play at William Hill but now play at Interpoker, on the same tables only with a slightly different interface and 30% rakeback) then effectively nothing has changed other than the money coming into your account :)

If you want to email me I'll happily give you all the details and refer you!

Markelby (Mark C), Friday, 6 January 2006 18:35 (eighteen years ago) link

Yeah, rebuys are awful, especially the low-buy-in ones. PR runs a $2 unlimited rebuy tourney every weekday (@ 4 PM EST) - folks strap on their clown shoes for that shit. I only do ones-and-dones w/ rebuys, tho, especially for the $$$ they can cost. I think that's the reason I lost so much money in the middle of last year - buying back into, and back into, and one more fucking time STOP FISHING A-HOLE into those blasted rebuys.

David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 6 January 2006 20:05 (eighteen years ago) link

Won my first weekly $10 buy-in. I'd come in second a couple of times, but I finally won. It's nice having a hundred bucks, but it feels really nice having outlasted everyone. Every so often, it's nice to have been the best at something, even if it was for just one night.

It was all a blur. Flop was showing Q-A-9. He called all-in with $33. I had close to eighty with K-Q suited in the pocket. I figured that he might have the Ace, but I had the three spades and a pair already. Really, like an idiot, I called him. He had A-3. The next card was the ten of spades. I had four spades now, but was still nervous as hell. The river was a Jack, giving me a straight.

I feel kinda bad because I beat the host (who's been a great host), and he's never won one before. But he went all-in first, which was a good move though maybe not in hindsight.

Anyway, maybe you could say I showed some (blind, dumb, wreckless, stupid) BALLS and came out ahead. Nine out of ten times I would've lost, but I got it this time.

Anyone else feel guilty for winning hands that they walked backwards into? It's hard to feel that bad when you did what you were supposed to even if you weren't supposed to that.

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Monday, 9 January 2006 09:40 (eighteen years ago) link

Good stuff PP! I know exactly what you mean - I don't mind being seen as loose or aggressive, but showing down a shitty hand that somehow wins has a special embarrassment attached to it. I even said "omg sorry" when I pushed in a $10 online SNG the other day and made runner runner straight, rivering the card that gave him a set, to knock out some poor guy who had by far the best of it when we both went all-in. I apologised because it was the third time I had massively sucked out on someone within about five hands...

I've had a good few days playing at Party, with my last six $10+$1 SNG results coming 2nd, 1st, 2nd, 2nd, 7th*, & 1st. If anyone's interested, I posted the complete hand history (i.e. the 32 hands where I saw a flop or was in the last three) of the SNG I won yesterday on the bijou poker forum on which I also post - you can find it here. Comments more than welcome!

*99 in pocket, pushed when shortstacked, came up against AA. Flop Q9x, woohoo! Turn Q, river... Q, giving him a higher full house. I HATE being beaten by the board.

Markelby (Mark C), Monday, 9 January 2006 10:36 (eighteen years ago) link

flop, river, pocket -- these are funny names

RJG (RJG), Monday, 9 January 2006 10:39 (eighteen years ago) link

or "terms"

RJG (RJG), Monday, 9 January 2006 10:39 (eighteen years ago) link

Did full stops kill your parents?

Markelby (Mark C), Monday, 9 January 2006 11:01 (eighteen years ago) link

are you on your periods?

i had QQ and made these two folks go all-in pre-flop with their one A.

Flop: 2 Q 5
Turn: 4
River: 3

heh. i roffled.

ken c (ken c), Monday, 9 January 2006 13:05 (eighteen years ago) link

There's one guy at my table who has consistently been beat by betting big with As-Ks to someone's Jc-Qd only to have something like 2h-4h-5h-8h-10h dealt out onto the table. And it just keeps happening to the poor guy, like a bad dream.

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Monday, 9 January 2006 20:05 (eighteen years ago) link

oh, you've been playing me!

ken c (ken c), Monday, 9 January 2006 22:02 (eighteen years ago) link

heh, just tonight. pwn3d by 4 straight draws in an hour. hands included 3 x 10. JJ KK. etc.

ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 03:08 (eighteen years ago) link

pwn3d me once, shame on you. pwn3d me twice, shame on me.

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 03:23 (eighteen years ago) link

make it 5.

and also. when i have the slicks it had to be when someone else has rockets.

ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 03:24 (eighteen years ago) link

Out of how many hands in that hour?

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 03:26 (eighteen years ago) link


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