ILX Poker Players Unite

PLO is so much fun but so easy to be bad at

polk won that tournament last night btw, 271k

wow good on him. definitely one of the most likeable of the newer crop of internet players.

what's really struck me about PLO is just how much different it is than regular NLHE. its such a post-flop game, you really can't ever be more than a 60% favorite before the flop and you can't win big pots if you whiff on it. thus far my "edge" is just noticing which players are unwilling to bet anything but the nuts and which ones get too gung ho about their low straights and flushes. not to mention sticking to the basic principles of aggression and position which people seem to forget in favor of a "limp every hand" strategy.

doug polk and daniel negreanu seated next to each other at the feature table of the 111k WSOP one drop. doug is wearing a "more rake is better" t shirt

is that online somewhere?

that is one of the best things i've ever heard

clay a bunch of the WSOP events are being live streamed on the pokergo app and pokergo.com. it's 10 bucks a month or 99 for a year. the main event will be free

oh thx, i don't keep up like i used to but nice to dive into a tourney on a cloudy saturday

both doug polk and haralabob make the final table of the 111k one drop

doug won and bob got 4th!

aw man the coverage last year on the wsop site was so good
looks like tuchman only doing a lil bit of the coverage on pokergo
think i'm going to leave it, might be tempted with the 10k HORSE final table

seems like a nice wsop so far tho, good to see kurganov win his first bracelet (with liv boeree too + half prize money going to charities)

10k omaha 8 final 17 look like a good bunch
cheering for ray d. obvs

its been a good couple of months for Doug Polk huh

don't really follow players online what's gone down?
i'm trying to catch up on scoop via twitch streams so am v v much behind!

oh sweet there's an 8 hour vid of his final table :)

anyone still playing online? what games/stakes are people on ?

Nah, Black Friday took all the wind out of my sails.

play every now and again on pokerstars
just $4ish tourneys - whatever game is going
play live a few times a week which is enough for me really

I'm still going on Ignition. I kinda like anon poker since it means I don't have to dick around with HUDs and I don't have a whole lot of time to study opponent tendencies and w/e. So its nice to just not have to do it. Plus the playerbase seems pretty soft. Downside is the software is absolutely atrocious.

ha I think we're very different players, don't use any software and just go on betting patterns online, hold em is hard for it - think my only two big tournament wins this past year have been in horse and badugi

honestly I hated having to deal with a HUD and a database. must've been how baseball players must've felt in the 90's - it just seemed like cheating to me, but I knew I was leaving a lot of money on the table if I didn't get one. it definitely helped my game a lot, to the point where I wished I had gotten one years ago. but I would much prefer the world where no one gets to use it.

those HORSE tournaments are the thing I miss most about Stars. Ignition offers PLO and PLO8 but that's it. and there are not a whole lot of players there. if Stars came back I'd probably stay the hell away from Hold Em, the players there are just way too good these days

negreanu mosseri heads up in 10k plo8!

riding a pretty sick heater right now. i moved up to 2/5 a month and a half ago and am +922 BB in 79 hours since then

very nice

well done, that's a solid chunk

this month has been swingy as hell for me, I've had two crazy heaters followed by two crushing downswings. probably gonna finish short of my goal but hey, any month in the plus column is a good month right?

relatively sure that doug polk has developed a cocaine habit

well he did say he was going 100 days without drinking, and despite being relatively well-adjusted that's gotta be pretty difficult in that world

he's lost over 20 pounds in a couple of weeks and his videos are becoming more and more unhinged

oh dear
i think the last one i saw was him ripping alex torelli

worth mentioning that he's big on the cryptocurrency thing (which is why I muted him on Twitter) and things have been going absolutely nutso there. bad time to quit drinking imo

his beefs have annoyed me for a while but there is a definite change in his mood and editing quality lately, it's concerning!

they interviewed that guy miles' mom and she basically compared cheering for him as he played poker to supporting a drug habit or something

commentary is lol norman chad is ranting about how he can name all the times aces has lost in the final hand in the main event, antonio is like 80% solid analysis 20% borderline soul-crushing digs at norman, lon I haven't quite figured out how to nail down even after all these years as anything other than just a solid dad, like if mitt romney smoked weed or something

been watching for the last hour or so. pretty boring hands thus far. who should i be pulling for here?

right on cue big hand by miles there

if I could add up the number of hours of my life I’ve spent listening to norm and lon I’d prob spiral into a really serious depression

Never add up the time you spend on anything, none of it sounds good in that light

only time worth adding up is time spent on ILH

every moment a gem

tapped out about 1am, this went on till 8 eastern apparently!

some absolute titans clashing at the final table of the 1M one drop tonight. sick sick sick hand fedor won 20 mins ago to bust rick salomon and byron kaverman

lon just referred to fedor vs bonomo as ali-frazier and honestly it is

true that
bonomo now overtaken negreanu all time live tourney $$$!
$25 million is 2018 alone!

damn... Negreanu's been on top of that list for a long time hasn't he?

didn't watch this but Fedor vs. Bonomo seems like a must-see HU match. I watched the Super High Roller bowl tourney that involved a lot of those players and it was awesome watching poker being played at such a crazy high level. and Kevin Hart too.

had to go to bed finally but it was just a sick match, at one point fedor overbet like 6 rivers in 15 hands or something, these guys were out there throwing haymakers

some pretty crazy shit going on here

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/29/news-views-gossip/mike-postle-cheating-allegations-1753388/

basically, there is this guy named Mike Postle who plays on a 5/5 streamed game at Stones, who has been running insanely good, cashing at a rate of 220bb/100 (for reference, in a live game 15bb/100 is generally seen as "crushing it"). this has gone on for nearly 2 years before someone noticed something very strange about the way the guy was playing. he is consistently taking lines that are absolutely ridiculous - he plays nearly 50% of his hands (which no winning player can do), takes the correct river line 100% of the line (lol) and makes the most ridiculous bluffs, which just so happen to be correct every single time. a number of his plays make absolutely 0 sense unless you happen to know your opponent's exact hands. the theory is that this guy somehow got access to the RFID info that is broadcasting these hands. probably could have gotten away with it too but he makes it so incredibly blatant.

yeah I’ve been following this too. guy is clearly a cheat, and a dumb one

@Mike_Postle @AndreasFroehli @Joeingram1 @berkey11 @scott_seiver @haralabob @DougPolkPoker

I apologize in advance for how long this is going to be, but after what i have witnessed in the past 24+ hours, i couldn't sit on the sidelines any longer without giving My 2 cents. First

— Nick_Rice (@NickRic06274872) October 2, 2019

lol

ha watched a montage of his hits and it's pretty ridic

I mean the numbers speak for themselves - he's winning at a greater rate than Potripper (the Absolute Poker superuser who stole a ton of money from pros), he never screws up on the river, he wins nearly every single session (EXCEPT when the dude who runs Stones is in Vegas? WTF?!?) - the odds of someone going on this kind of streak is like, hitting the Powerball 5 times in a row. Especially playing the way he does.

What gets me about this is not just the obvious stuff - like, knowing when you're beat and when you can bluff obviously is worth a ton of money in itself, but he takes it a step further and takes lines that make zero sense UNLESS you knew exactly what your opponents are holding. The AK vs AK vs 54 3 way all in hand with Moneymaker is a good example of that, even if his "expertise" in live reads tells him his opponents don't have a premium hand there, there's still a good chance they show up with something like, I dunno, pocket 8s, which has you completely crushed. It's just so dumb. And there are dozens of examples like that.

IMO the most damning hand is the 95o one. It's a 3-way pot and he somehow gets 120 BBs in with 95o against an all-in player with 64 and another player with AQ, who he is quite deep against. The flop comes J93 and he open shoves 600bbs into the dry side pot. It is one of the most spewy plays I have ever seen and the only way it makes sense is if you somehow knew that the all-in player couldn't beat 9 high and that the other player did not have 99+ (and, even knowing this, it still might not be a profitable move!) But there's more - so he bets the AQ out and they run out the board. The turn card is a 7, which gives the 64 an inside straight draw. You clearly hear Postle say, "oh shit!" - even though the cards have not been flipped up yet. It's pretty much case closed based on that one hand alone.