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I hate all characters, SJP's character dresses like a Chess King employee, but I keep watching. Is it cause the Sopranos are off till next March? WHat keeps you coming back for more / avoiding show at all costs? And was Aidan's attitude towards SJP this week a perfect snapshot of post-heartbreak ex-boyfriend coldness or what? Do you wax your bikini line? Pube-trimming for guys - dud or just creepy?

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 12 July 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Classic.
Read Restoration Comedies of Manners, Read Sex in tHe City.
Same thing !

anthony, Thursday, 12 July 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

I see it like that too. It's about privacy, the machinations and allegiances that surround/support sex and its consequences. Technically it's a melodrama and I guess that's why I like it, since there are so few around these days. Ally McBeal came close but missed by a mile - too much "manly" plot about court cases, deaths, the Future of the Firm, etc. SatC is *all* about the private life. Even Kyle McLachlan's wife (name?? (just became a convert)) handing the reins of her job to the new girl was framed in terms of a private decision; their conversation was intimate, like 2 friends exchanging confidences - the girl gets the job not thru some rational bureacratic review process but thru the "vibe" of private interpersonal contact.

My housemate tells me she's never had a boyfriend who didn't "trim his pubes".. Why does this disgust me?

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 12 July 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm with Anthony on this one, but you are absolutely right, Tracer, about "Carrie's" dress sense, it's vile. One should be able to enter the lovely world of Patricia Field and at least find something worth wearing on TV, ja?

suzy, Thursday, 12 July 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

I love Carries Clothes . Diania Veerland lives

anthony, Thursday, 12 July 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Guys shaving anything = dud, though I've been thinking about shaving my chest in case that might make the hair on it grow back twice as thick, ooh (kick ass). First season Sex & the City, I thought was alright, but I just watched a bunch of episodes from the second season, and what I remembered as a good soap opera was actually a bad sitcom.

Otis Wheeler, Thursday, 12 July 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

dud.

gareth, Thursday, 12 July 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Carrie is my fashion hero. Go Carrie. What is Chess King? Is it like Burger King at all?

My idiot brother charmingly informed me on my last birthday that I could tell if I was getting old and past it as I would stop laughing at SatC and start empathising. Thanks bro.

Emma, Thursday, 12 July 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Maybe it's the bad hair that makes me so upset. Love the show but tchhh, conditioner now please!

La Vreeland (a woman who shared many traits with my fashionista grandmother, the least of which would be sleek hair in chignon) would not have been so impressed by the mall rat's locks, and would be with me in thinking SJP had nicer hair in Square Pegs.

She's not even as cool as Kay Thompson (author of the Eloise books) who played the Think Pink! fash editor in Funny Face.

Also, if you take a look at the girls having cigarette breaks in front of Vogue House, they all look like Charlotte. Especially in the hair department. SJP in Carrie Bradshaw mode looks like she works for Marie bloody Claire.

Sorry about this, I joined the Fashion Police at a very early age and with my punkywave friends in Mpls, used to actually issue citations to feather-cut Minnewegians in those ghastly Forenza sweaters from The Limited. We made the doormen at Taboo in London (who would hold up a mirror to the style-unconscious, then ask 'if you were me, would you let this come in?') look like Salvation Army workers. V. naughty I know...

suzy, Thursday, 12 July 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Is there a dress code for the roof picnic?

Emma, Thursday, 12 July 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Crampons and hiking boots are de riguer else we'll never get up there.

Sex And The City is shit, I've never been able to watch it because Sarah Jessica Parkers face is so pointy I fear she may break the TV Screen. How does that Ferris Bueller put up with her at home?

Pete, Thursday, 12 July 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

No Emma, no dress code for the roof picnic! I worried instantly about that question being raised two seconds after hitting SUBMIT. Aaaargh.

I think my FP activities were a direct result of having my clothes dissed at school, by badly dressed folk of the type I described above (stonewash...don't get me started). We actually had girls who would go around saying things like 'HER Calvin Kleins/Gloria Vanderbilts/ Sassoons are forgeries' but I think I've explained about Junior High elsewhere so I'll stop!

suzy, Thursday, 12 July 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

SitC = Classic. I was planning on a SitC party for when I finished up my thesis, mainly as an excuse for all the women I know to wear unsuitable clothing. The plan foundered (a) on my personal life going astray in a big way for a short while (b) the fact that I couldn't decide whether to go as Samantha or Carrie...

alex thomson, Thursday, 12 July 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Sex in the City" TOTAL, UTTER, UNCOMPROMISING DUD. I hate that focking ugly nosed Sarah Jessica Parker and once my aunt had a fight with her so alll the more reason to hate her. I used to have a Sex in th city Busters sign on my fridge.

Mike Hanle y, Thursday, 12 July 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Um, classic? I guess I would say that since about 4 people now have described my life as "having that Sex in the City life". But seriously, it's a really great show and I'm getting annoyed that I keep going out of town on the weekends and missing the stupid show. I'm going to have to buy yet another DVD set next year because I haven't seen ANY of this season besides the modelling episode. It's a really good show, it actually is quite like how my friends are, though I don't think I know anyone as extreme as all of them. The way I see it, the four girls are like four sides of the same person, split up for comedy effect - you have the workaholic, tough side of a person (Miranda), the hobag (Samantha), the naive confused one (Charlotte), and the stupid ass one (Carrie). I love all their relationships and I sit there wondering why Charlotte hasn't murdered Kyle MacLachlan yet.

The other great thing about the show is that they really aren't particularly gorgeous women (or even remotely attractive, in the case of SJP, who looks like a haggard Bette Midler, as if Bette Midler was a great comparison point to begin with). I mean, they look like people I'd know. Kim Catrall is pretty but a bit beaten up looking these days, Cynthia Davis is a touch gawky, Kristen Davis is pretty but has a pretty "real" figure, definite hips and thighs. I find that great, it makes the show very easy to identify with, I think. At least for me, but I'm a boozy NYC slutty girl, so I guess I would.

And yes, Carrie dresses like a total crackhead. SJP, no matter her face, has a great body and I don't see why they dress her up in tutus and awful clashing patterns. She's like an expensive homeless person.

Ally, Thursday, 12 July 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

It's just so boring.

JM, Thursday, 12 July 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Sarah Jessica Parker is a mule-faced girl.

JM, Thursday, 12 July 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

She really truly is. My main problem with her has nothing to do with that sort of shallowness though. It's that she's so fake. It's like everything she says is so carefully measured and tested that you figure that she has a team of pollers in her backyard, taking focus groups on her award acceptance speech options or something.

Ally, Thursday, 12 July 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

My aunt worked in this fabric store in Puoghkipsie and Sarah Jessica came in and was having Star fits but my aunt didn't know who she was so she stood up to her and she got really pissed. WHat a piece of shit . Later the others were like " DO you knw who that WAS?" and my aunt was like " I dont give a shithouse rat!". Some woman in the background went "You GO girl!"

Mike Hanle y, Thursday, 12 July 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

along with ally mcbeal, the duddest thing to hit tv since baywatch

Geoff, Thursday, 12 July 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Crucial nomenclature divergence: Sex "in the" City or Sex "and the" City???

Chess King = poss. defunct mall-only shop that sold "cool clothes" - like Michael Jacson's "Beat It" jacket.

If SJP didn't lift so many damn weights she'd look fine - she's a big-boned girl who's twisted her arms and abdominals into hard rope-taffy, just so we can get minimum of 2 stiff-looking SJP midriffs per show. It's a wonder she can bend any of her limbs.

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 12 July 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

SJP and Helen Hunt should have made a suicide pact after Girls Just Wanna Have Fun, they really should have.

Sex and the City is fun in small doses, but I find SJP/Carrie so obnoxious/annoying it puts me off becoming a real fan. The worst part is you know she thinks she looks adorable when she's wearing kitschy little capes or necklaces with her name on it, when in fact she looks like a major twit. Chess King was a spot-on call, Tracer.

But the point is moot because I no longer have hbo anyway.

Nicole, Thursday, 12 July 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Vanity Fair said it was all about being watched totally by gay men: ie four half- pretty narcissists shag the entire state but deep down crave love. (Pah!) But it is mainly dud because you KNOW SJP is a more terrible writer even than [insert whoever you like] because she gets all her material from her own and her friends' lives!!??

mark s, Thursday, 12 July 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Oh i totally view it as an update/gender switched Boys in the Band.

anthony, Thursday, 12 July 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Which reminds me, Mark. That thing where she looks thoughtfully up at the ceiling because she's having Sentence Inspiration, then keys in the sentence? That's so cheesy.

Everyone I know that's gay seems to have taken the who are you in SITC test online.

suzy, Thursday, 12 July 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

I am a combo of Samantha and Charlotte .

anthony, Thursday, 12 July 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

So for anyone who wants to take the test, clic k here

For the record, I am apparently Samantha:

Well, well, well… it’s no mystery what subject matter occupies the majority of your thoughts. You are certainly one sensual lady, who knows exactly what she wants from that other gender and isn’t about to waste her time diddling with the accompanying bullshit. Your power exudes beyond the bedroom as well. Whether it be at work or with your friends, beating around the bush is a foreign concept, it’s nothing but direct, frankness with you. Of course, that doesn’t mean there isn’t room for the odd, manipulative mind game… Nevertheless, you are the poster girl for a new kind of feminism, where a plunging neckline and colourful personal life are by every means compatible with an influential, professional position.

Ally, Thursday, 12 July 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Ooh! I'm Samantha too, apparently. Which means nothing to me as I don't watch the show.

DG, Thursday, 12 July 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

I always knew you were a slapper, DG.

Ally, Thursday, 12 July 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm ... Miranda?

Hell, you can call me Senor Wiencis for all that means. (My hair is a lovely shade of red, though.)

David Raposa, Thursday, 12 July 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Argh! Not Miranda!

Ally, Thursday, 12 July 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

She's the uptight one, ain't she? Just gimme the bad news.

David Raposa, Thursday, 12 July 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Even worse, merely a wannabe slapper.

DG, Thursday, 12 July 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

This Miranda is apparently "ambitious" and "success-driven". I have a "corporate lap" and a "Microsoft notebook".

Feeble laugh—

I saw SJP at Aggie's ( =overpriced "real diner" on Houston St.) 3 years ago w/Matthew Broderick and a bunch of other people and our waitstaff blew us off so much that we left in a huff.

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 12 July 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

There's also a whole NYC trainspotter aspect to it that I'm guilty of - not just street corners but "oh, I've heard that before..."

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 12 July 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm Miranda too. Which means I'm a part of a boring cable show.

JM, Thursday, 12 July 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

never seen the show but i have to say that Ferris needs Mia Sara (from buellers day off) instead of SJP..and..yeah. she was hot. not mule faced

kevin enas, Friday, 13 July 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm bloody Carrie. Crivens. But without the muscley arms, mind.

However I was put off during the test due to the bizarre description of London as a holiday destination and therefore my result was skewed. Cucumber sandwiches? Eh? Eton? That's not London, it's somewhere in Berkshire goddamnit. These interweb quiz folk should pull their collective fingers out.

Emma, Friday, 13 July 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm Miranda. I guess I should have known...

alex thomson, Friday, 13 July 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

six months pass...
Depends how you view it. If you assume the show is serious, then it's a dud. If you treat it as social satire, in which the purpose of these horrible people is for us to be disgusted and decide NEVER to behave like them, then it's a classic.

FYI - if you watch Absolutely Fabulous, it becomes clear that Carrie will turn into Edina and Samantha will turn into Patsy.

Sarah, Thursday, 31 January 2002 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

If you treat it as social satire, in which the purpose of these horrible people is for us to be disgusted and decide NEVER to behave like them, then it's a classic.

this is the new prism through which i shall view all life.

jess, Thursday, 31 January 2002 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

how am I Charlotte ?

, Thursday, 31 January 2002 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

They grill-shilled like stars in last nights episode. Carrie's bloke (not Big, the other one, Aidan, that's it) was cooking on the Amazing George Foreman Mean Grilling Machine when Carrie came in. Cue exposition on how great the grill is from Aidan followed by snoggage and handy cut away from tongue action to show tasty stuff grilling on grill. It was just beautiful.

RickyT, Thursday, 31 January 2002 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

four months pass...
If there is an anti-sex and the city web site, please direct me! I honestly can't believe this show continues to air. I gave it a fair chance and watched like 6 or 7 episodes........barf. These are the most childish group of characters I've ever seen on one program in my life. These issues are the most nonsensical, redundant.....and I might add predictable outcomes to the list of adjectives. I feel dumb when I watch this show......I feel like the writers are saying, "hey, we know you're stupid so watch this". If it's so necessary for a program to center itself around dialogue, then it's also necessary to hire good dialogue actors. The acting level of these women rivals that of Lacey Chabert in Lost in Space. If you like Sex and the City because it tackles real life issues, please ask someone to slap you until you come out of it(I bet you watched 90210 religiously). If you watch Sex and the City because you enjoy the fantasy escape from reality you could probably get more intense drama from a book with Fabio on the cover. This show has Sorority Girl written all over it.......if you happen to be a sorority girl then I apologize and don't get punch on your khakis at the mixer. Without a doubt.......DUD.

Punk Rock, Tuesday, 25 June 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Sex And The City? Who prefers my alternative name: 'Sex In The Title'?

It's lame WITH all that URST and RST. How tedious would it be without it...we'd be comparing it with the absolute death-throes of Murphy Brown or 90210. The fact that this time the plastic yuppies are female and 30-something and rich as a Murdoch fails to make them any more interesting or make me identify with them any better than Dallas or Dynasty, or Home and Away or Neighbours for that matter. Noisy mediocrity is a still a sure fire winner. Just call it 'cutting edge' or 'confrontational' and it's instantly critically bulletproof. The sex angle is just another layer of armor, making it easy to put any criticism in the PC or 'moral police' bin.

Overpublicised, over-rated DUD.

Karen, Wednesday, 26 June 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

six months pass...
Had a look at this show (I'd caught odd episodes previously) and good lord it's shallow fluff. Still, Samantha is quite amusing. I know female colleagues who watch and covet the characters' jobs, clothes, money, lifestyles. The show isn't about sex as such - it's pure aspirational telly in the very best Gold Blend tradition. On that level I suppose it works.

Ben Mott (Ben Mott), Thursday, 16 January 2003 14:23 (eighteen years ago) link

Dud.

sundar subramanian (sundar), Thursday, 16 January 2003 21:50 (eighteen years ago) link

Karen's post = CLASSIC.

Venga, Thursday, 16 January 2003 22:10 (eighteen years ago) link

The other great thing about the show is that they really aren't particularly gorgeous women (or even remotely attractive, in the case of SJP, who looks like a haggard Bette Midler, as if Bette Midler was a great comparison point to begin with).

Great. I've been told I look like both.

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 16 January 2003 22:24 (eighteen years ago) link

watchable.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Friday, 17 January 2003 10:11 (eighteen years ago) link

i know :/
i am caught up
i can't control it

rrrobyn, Friday, 14 September 2007 05:35 (thirteen years ago) link

these paris episodes are ridiculous i gotta say

rrrobyn, Friday, 14 September 2007 05:36 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm surprised, Robyn -- I remember liking the first season or so when it was on, when it was still trying to be sharp and clever and HBO-y. It was the gradual descent into soap-com ridiculousness after that that made it really laughable.

We should compare this to the Girlfriends thread -- the first bit of that show is so wildly aping Sex+City that it's kind of uncomfortable. You spend the whole time imagining a pitch meeting where people are like "Black Sex and the City!" "Black Sex and the City?" "Sex and the City -- black!" "City black Sex and!"

nabisco, Friday, 14 September 2007 05:54 (thirteen years ago) link

at certain times i have a soft spot for soap-com ridiculousness, believe it

i liked the sharp & clever of the first couple of seasons but i don't know, maybe it wasn't my kinda sharp & clever, also somewhat alienating to me. or maybe that was b/c it was so very late-90s. i can see why i had no interest in it in the first place but also why it makes sense that i got into it now. anyway, it's all watched now! i can see how regular viewers would get choked up at the finale - i mean, most people watched this over many years; i watched it over a couple of months, and partly as distraction/procrastination. it worked! and now it is over

rrrobyn, Friday, 14 September 2007 06:20 (thirteen years ago) link

I like some soap-com ridiculousness, too -- I was gonna say that I prefer it to be more camp or knowing than this show tended to be, but then I realized that (a) this would have really blown if it had ever attempted camp or knowingness, plus (b) Bring It On is still on my favorite-movies list. (I prefer it like that, but I don't know what that is: "seeming like it's going to be knowingly campy but then it's actually scarily earnest and thus unintentionally campy?" Sex+City might actually age into that category, it'll be poignant and hilarious to the teenagers of the 2040s.)

nabisco, Friday, 14 September 2007 06:55 (thirteen years ago) link

I love Bring It On so much.

whatevs dudes, seasons 1 and 2 are good but seasons 3 and 4 are fucking amazing when it comes to entertainment value (plus carrie's fucking hair). not to mention season 5.

season 6 rocks but baryshnikov's character is a schmuck, charlotte's baby storyline and samantha's cancer storyline are pure schmaltz and the paris episodes are way too fucking cute.

but the thick of the 6th has Harry marrying Charlotte and Berger breaking up with Carrie, which is priceless ("this will no longer be known as the day i got broken up with on a post-it -- it will now be known as the day i got arrested for smokin a doobie!")

fuck

Surmounter, Friday, 14 September 2007 13:10 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah, except I saw that episode recently and I couldn't help thinking that if my friend kept shiting on about being broken up with on a post-it in that annoying way, I would just go home.

The thing, even though I don't love every tiny thing about it, I still really like the show.

Harry is my favourite, though.

accentmonkey, Friday, 14 September 2007 13:18 (thirteen years ago) link

so great

Surmounter, Friday, 14 September 2007 13:34 (thirteen years ago) link

Especially his pride in walking about the apartment naked.

accentmonkey, Friday, 14 September 2007 13:40 (thirteen years ago) link

hahaha yes so funny

on that beautiful couch

Surmounter, Friday, 14 September 2007 14:12 (thirteen years ago) link

Just the thought of the way she says "doobie" is grossing me out.

nabisco, Friday, 14 September 2007 14:19 (thirteen years ago) link

i think season 6 was when miranda finally got a normal, or at least not hideous, hairstyle.

lauren, Friday, 14 September 2007 14:36 (thirteen years ago) link

four months pass...

steve seems like a bro

deej, Saturday, 19 January 2008 04:09 (thirteen years ago) link

total classic

69, Saturday, 19 January 2008 04:11 (thirteen years ago) link

three months pass...

we really haven't had enough SJP here yet

gabbneb, Monday, 5 May 2008 17:43 (twelve years ago) link

can you imagine what the opening night of that movie in Chelsea will be like? The Rocky Horror Asshole Show.

Dr Morbius, Monday, 5 May 2008 17:46 (twelve years ago) link

i still love this show. carrie is still one of my favorite characters ever. but i really hope she's less whiny/codependent in the movie than she was toward the end of the show.

get bent, Monday, 5 May 2008 18:12 (twelve years ago) link

i know, i love her too. i'm excited! hoping my friend can sneak me into some opening night premiere bla bla bla cuz of her job. but it probs won't happen.

Surmounter, Monday, 5 May 2008 18:13 (twelve years ago) link

sometimes this show makes me incredibly angry because it is so unrealistic but then there will be little things that happen that are so spot-on re: being single in nyc. blahhh.

tehresa, Monday, 5 May 2008 18:27 (twelve years ago) link

As if anyone anywhere has enough money to open a bar in Soho or wherever.

Tracer Hand, Monday, 5 May 2008 22:23 (twelve years ago) link

SJP is a horseface.

calstars, Monday, 5 May 2008 22:24 (twelve years ago) link

challops

deej, Monday, 5 May 2008 22:28 (twelve years ago) link

calstars man you could take this topical humor on the road, maybe talk about how moses' beard is getting a little shaggy

Tracer Hand, Monday, 5 May 2008 22:33 (twelve years ago) link

you should take being butthurt on the road

and what, Monday, 5 May 2008 22:40 (twelve years ago) link

three years pass...

was watching sex and the city the other night

surm, Thursday, 10 November 2011 15:10 (nine years ago) link

eight months pass...
one year passes...

Emily Nussbaum on the fashionable running-down of the show:

Although the show’s first season is its slightest, it swiftly establishes a bold mixture of moods—fizzy and sour, blunt and arch—and shifts between satirical and sincere modes of storytelling. (It’s not even especially dated: though the show has gained a reputation for over-the-top absurdity, I can tell you that these night clubs and fashion shows do exist—maybe even more so now that Manhattan has become a gated island for the wealthy.)

http://www.newyorker.com/arts/critics/television/2013/07/29/130729crte_television_nussbaum

playwright Greg Marlowe, secretly in love with Mary (Dr Morbius), Monday, 22 July 2013 15:45 (seven years ago) link

speechless

surm, Monday, 22 July 2013 16:00 (seven years ago) link

pretty much OTM this piece, i came here to post it! i like this;

The show’s basic value system aligns with Carrie: romantic, second-wave, libertine. But “Sex and the City” ’s real strength was its willingness not to stack the deck: it let every side make a case, so that complexity carried the day. When Carrie and Aidan break up, they are both right. When Miranda and Carrie argue about her move to Paris, they are both right. The show’s style could be brittle, but its substance was flexible, in a way that made the series feel peculiarly broad-ranging, covering so much ground, so fleetly, that it became easy to take it for granted.

piscesx, Monday, 22 July 2013 20:29 (seven years ago) link

surm, what left ya speechless?

playwright Greg Marlowe, secretly in love with Mary (Dr Morbius), Monday, 22 July 2013 20:39 (seven years ago) link

Yeah good piece. She has a point about the genuine character growth

the Spanish Porky's (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 22 July 2013 22:30 (seven years ago) link

What I wouldnt give to hear richard nixon expounding on this show

the Spanish Porky's (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 22 July 2013 23:22 (seven years ago) link

"And these women... they just fuck like a buncha streetwalkers..."

playwright Greg Marlowe, secretly in love with Mary (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 23 July 2013 00:53 (seven years ago) link

six years pass...

rewatching this in dribs and drabs as I do every few years and God, season 4 is really the worst as a whole. Though there are some moments I really like (Carrie and Big dancing to Moon River until the record starts skipping, Trey doing the photo shoot with Charlotte, the Lucy Liu cameo!) but Carrie is INSUFFERABLE this season. There’s some great fashion but so, so, so much cringe. What the fuck was Samantha at giving Richard that hideous heart print? Has Carrie ever been more loathsome than when she’s browbeating Charlotte to lend her money for her deposit? Also, am I supposed to believe Carrie would start working at Vogue and not knock a column about accessories out of the park? She spent a deposit’s worth of cash on shoes alone!

hyds (gyac), Friday, 7 February 2020 19:59 (eleven months ago) link

eleven months pass...

oh no

HBO Max has officially revived #SexAndTheCity https://t.co/st3CaB9MQf pic.twitter.com/IfjgbSkRTI

— The Hollywood Reporter (@THR) January 10, 2021



Fellow original star Kim Cattrall (Samantha) is not involved in the HBO Max incarnation. The actress has openly feuded with Parker and, more in October 2017, was vocal about seeing her part being recast in a bid to improve the original comedy's inclusivity.

I bet they killed her off. 😞

lol
For his part, creator Star told The Hollywood Reporter in October that he had no interest in returning to the series today. "I May Destroy You is the Sex and the City for now," he said as part of a Creative Space interview pegged to his Netflix comedy Emily in Paris. "Girls was the Sex and the City for its moment. I wouldn't be doing Sex and the City today. Twenty years ago, I knew those people that I was writing about. I understood the time and I understood the characters and also what needed to be said."

scampish inquisition (gyac), Sunday, 10 January 2021 23:39 (two weeks ago) link

Continuing my commitment to being the only person posting itt,

I find it fascinating that Sex and the City - a show about a bunch of white women making jokes and shagging - is considered embarrassingly retro and borderline offensive, but The Sopranos - a show about a bunch of white men killing each other -is considered an untouchable classic

— Hadley Freeman (@HadleyFreeman) January 12, 2021



I’ve never seen The Sopranos but even I know that’s a shitty and reductive take - and it’s a shitty and reductive take about SATC too. Some parts of SATC have really not aged well - Carrie raging at Charlotte for not selling her engagement ring to help Carrie out with her deposit would come across even worse than it did at the time, the racism, the aggressively ‘apolitical’ small c conservatism - and some are still great. I love every moment the show acknowledges, either through narratives or telling us, that Carrie is full of shit, and the later seasons are really lacking in that regard.

scampish inquisition (gyac), Tuesday, 12 January 2021 10:40 (one week ago) link

One reason why Sopranos is an untouchable classic compared to SATC us that it's not coming back

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 12 January 2021 10:50 (one week ago) link

there is no take so shitty it cannot be topped by a shittier one

i think my hell would be having to watch people like this discuss art pic.twitter.com/flUwzdyHYK

— Shaun (@shaun_vids) January 12, 2021

٩(͡๏̯͡๏)۶ (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 12 January 2021 10:59 (one week ago) link

which SATC character blacked up ?

marg bar āmrikā (||||||||), Tuesday, 12 January 2021 11:00 (one week ago) link

One reason why Sopranos is an untouchable classic compared to SATC us that it's not coming back

The Many Saints of Newark is an upcoming American crime drama film directed by Alan Taylor and written by David Chase and Lawrence Konner as a prequel to Chase's HBO crime drama series The Sopranos.

you are like a scampicane, there's calm in your fries (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 12 January 2021 11:04 (one week ago) link

Baddiel's two fave bands is Morrissey and Al Jolson

calzino, Tuesday, 12 January 2021 11:05 (one week ago) link

Oh jfc, every time the series had black characters in it it was so bad

scampish inquisition (gyac), Tuesday, 12 January 2021 11:05 (one week ago) link

BG - that's not the same as coming back ;-)

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 12 January 2021 11:15 (one week ago) link

New title for memoir: Men Explain Sex and the City to Me

— Hadley Freeman (@HadleyFreeman) January 12, 2021

Gulag middle-class women already

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 12 January 2021 14:05 (one week ago) link

sexist. why not middle class men as well?

as#d,.F:ddz;,c#,;;,;,;,sdf' (Left), Tuesday, 12 January 2021 14:11 (one week ago) link

Glad to know only men have reductive takes on the show. Emily Nussbaum actually wrote a good piece about the show’s retrospective standing back in 2013, which answers the question of the inane original tweet and then some.

scampish inquisition (gyac), Tuesday, 12 January 2021 14:14 (one week ago) link

Nah just the women. Mao Zedong does not give a shit about SATC, it's in the red book xp

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 12 January 2021 14:15 (one week ago) link

The most famous such conversation took place four episodes in, after Charlotte’s boyfriend asked her to have anal sex. The friends pile into a cab for a raucous debate about whether her choice is about power-exchange (Miranda) or about finding a fun new hole (Samantha). “I’m not a hole!” Charlotte protests, and they hit a pothole. “What was that?” Charlotte asks. “A preview,” Miranda and Samantha say in unison, and burst out laughing.

Lol this was so funny, and ofc reads as extremely quaint in 2021.

scampish inquisition (gyac), Tuesday, 12 January 2021 14:21 (one week ago) link

SATC is Entourage for women

Fenners' Pen (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 12 January 2021 17:23 (one week ago) link

Left...otm

I watched the first episode of Sex and the City thinking it would be about sort of erotic psychogeography

— Rob Palk (@robpalkwriter) January 12, 2021

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 12 January 2021 18:19 (one week ago) link


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