A question for those whom have never known snow...

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... or have had very limited exposure.

What do you think of it?

Apparently now known as (o )( o) (Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 17:32 (sixteen years ago) link

Just curious.

Apparently now known as (o )( o) (Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 17:32 (sixteen years ago) link

I had a huge crush on this girl named Magda in high school. She was originally Egyptian-born, had lived in all sorts of places - Tel Aviv, Los Angeles, etc. By some stroke of luck I got to be sitting right next to her the first time she ever saw snow. She got quite a kick out of it.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 17:42 (sixteen years ago) link

you should have brought her outside and snorted it.

Big Baby Bingo (Chris V), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 17:43 (sixteen years ago) link

She got quite a kick out of it.
A post in and the thread has already turned perverted!

Apparently now known as (o )( o) (Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 17:44 (sixteen years ago) link

Nicka, I used to date a girl that had recently moved up here from Miami. And, like your Egyptian girl, had never seen a single flake before. She observed: "It's a lot wetter than I was expecting... and heavier. I thought it would be fluffier". I wasn't really surprised by her reaction to be honest.

Apparently now known as (o )( o) (Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 17:48 (sixteen years ago) link

I somehow read "kick as lick". Apologies.

Apparently now known as (o )( o) (Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 18:08 (sixteen years ago) link

It's OK for the first day, then just gets dull.

Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 19:15 (sixteen years ago) link

Snow is still a novelty for me. I like it.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 19:15 (sixteen years ago) link

Love snow. Can't get enough of it, in my mouth and in...

Having grown up in Minnesota and leaving in a week for a second season of ski bumming, snow is a real staple with me. Like potatoes and beer.

giboyeux (skowly), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 19:25 (sixteen years ago) link

(Is anyone else bothered by the grammar in the thread question or is it just me?)

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 21:27 (sixteen years ago) link

not just you.

kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 21:28 (sixteen years ago) link

My command of the english language is crap. I get it.
If it's that offensive ask a mod to fix it.

Apparently now known as (o )( o) (Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 21:36 (sixteen years ago) link

THINE GRAMMAR DOTH REEK OF FOUL OFFENSIVE, CRUEL KNAVE

The Olde English Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 21:47 (sixteen years ago) link

I like snow. I want more of it. I want so much of it that I cannot leave my apartment.

Pears can just fuck right off. (kenan), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 21:48 (sixteen years ago) link

Initial reactions to snow

a) snowballs are just compacted ice and they hurt
b) snow deadens sound

everything else I pretty much expected

Jedmond (Jedmond), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 23:35 (sixteen years ago) link

a) snowballs are just compacted ice and they hurt

That really depends on how wet and dense the snow is.

Michael White (Hereward), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 23:37 (sixteen years ago) link

a) snowballs are just compacted ice and they hurt

Yes, but this early in the year, you've probably only seen icy snow. January snow is fluff.

b) snow deadens sound

Yes, but at the same time cold air is denser and carries sound farther. So you get this weird effect where the world is totally quiet, except for the sound of a train a mile away.

Pears can just fuck right off. (kenan), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 23:38 (sixteen years ago) link

x-post to Michael

Pears can just fuck right off. (kenan), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 23:39 (sixteen years ago) link

i've only seen snow a few times, and was VERY surprised by how wet it is, it looks fluffy on tv. also i was living in dublin one winter when it snowed a bit and it all got so dirty. yuk.

gem (trisk), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 00:47 (sixteen years ago) link

I haven't really ever seen a big snow and haven't been around it enough on a everyday basis to lose my fascination with it

In general, I do not like cold weather.

Miss Misery (thatgirl), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 02:26 (sixteen years ago) link

I was living outside of S.A. the two or three days the city has received its only big snowfall in about 50-plus years (this would be in January 1985). I remember my parents and I getting a phone call from one of my aunts, telling us about the snowfall, what my cousins were doing outside, etc. I never got to see anything like that anywhere outside S.A., and once I got back to S.A., nothing like that happened ever again. I would love to see actual snowfall up close and in real life. I love cold weather. I would rather have chattering teeth than air you could almost literally cut through with a knife.

Drama Queen Wannabe (Dee the Lurker), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 03:51 (sixteen years ago) link

I'm with you, Dee. Heat is bad for you.

Pears can just fuck right off. (kenan), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 03:56 (sixteen years ago) link

xpost: Snowfall, to me, is exotic, unusual, different, something to fetishize and fantasize about. Snow to me looks beautiful, gorgeous, unreal. The fact that so many holiday pictorals showcase a white landscape makes snow seem even more important and vital to this time of year. It is my dream to, one day, be able to take the month of December off, fly off to some small town somewhere in the U.S. where it is guaranteed to snow that month, live in a cozy little house encircled by snow, and actually have a white Christmas with a handful of other people. I don't care if I have to wait until I'm 70 to do this, either.

Kenan, thank you, though I wouldn't say that "heat is bad for you" -- I'd say that "TOO MUCH heat is bad for you".

Drama Queen Wannabe (Dee the Lurker), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 03:58 (sixteen years ago) link

The way that milk and bread disappears from the grocery stores in one afternoon, you'd think that the people in my mid-southern town had never seen snow before (even though we get between four to eight inches every year.)

Pleasant Plains (Pleasant Plains), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 03:59 (sixteen years ago) link

Eh, snow's overrated. Driving through it, cleaning your car off every morning, and coming inside with slushy shoes are a drag. It's nice when you're inside though.

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 04:00 (sixteen years ago) link

heat builds character. and humidity is sultry. the cold just annoys me.

It's funny, when I lived in NYC it seemed the natives complained about the cold more than Texans complained about the heat. And I really didn't think it was that cold - no more so than a TX winter. Didn't see a whole lot of snow up there either, not like I'd imagine Boston or Colorado or Nebrasksa or something where they get feet of snow.

Miss Misery (thatgirl), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 04:01 (sixteen years ago) link

Snow to me looks beautiful, gorgeous, unreal.

hee hee... would you hate me if I told you I was watching it snow right now?

Pears can just fuck right off. (kenan), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 04:03 (sixteen years ago) link

It's the length, too, Sam, I think. Unless Dallas is a lot different from the parts of Texas I know, winter's a lot shorter there -- I don't know about NYC specifically, but even in Indiana we can get 40 degree weather in September, and in New England I've had it drop below freezing on a late summer night. Those are extremes, but still -- it's four or five months of cold weather instead of two or three. (And it gets dark a hell of a lot earlier, so you're out and about during a larger percentage of the cold part of the day.)

Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 04:06 (sixteen years ago) link

That was a shocking thing to me in Chicago -- farther north + edge of time zone = dark at 4:30 on a cloudy day. You go home at night every night. Then in the summer, right after the time changes, the sun comes up at 5:30. You have full light by six, and people are having coffee and walking their dogs as if it's perfectly normal to be that awake at six o'clock in the freakin' morning.

Pears can just fuck right off. (kenan), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 04:09 (sixteen years ago) link

NYC winters ain't shit.

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 04:13 (sixteen years ago) link

Except that one year where we had a blizzared every Wednesday in February.

I once sat next to a woman from Hawaii at a conference who had never seen it snowing. She said to me, "I should be paying attention to the lecture but I've never seen it snow..." I assured her she was doing the right thing.

Casuistry (Chris P), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 04:20 (sixteen years ago) link

Was it last winter when NYC had the Valentine's Day blizzard? Or two years ago? That was some insane shit.

Pears can just fuck right off. (kenan), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 04:22 (sixteen years ago) link

(The year I'm thinking of was around 1994.)

Casuistry (Chris P), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 04:24 (sixteen years ago) link

yes I was largely unimpressed by nyc weather extremes. It was colder longer there which made it more tolerable to me. (is that what you were talking about Tep.)

Here, winter seems to be annoying to me as it's this little fucking-freezing bit of weeks before it's short-sleeved weather again. If I have enough time to settle into my mittens it's not so bad.

Miss Misery (thatgirl), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 04:26 (sixteen years ago) link

People who like snow simply haven't seen enough of it.

J-rock (Julien Sandiford), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 04:41 (sixteen years ago) link

we get a lot of snow here, and i dont really like it.

like the time i was snowed in for four days... was unfun.

jill schoelen is the queen of my dreams! (Homosexual II), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 05:10 (sixteen years ago) link

People who like snow simply haven't seen enough of it.

-- J-rock (juice_rock...), December 1st, 2004.

The wrong-est.

I've lived in snow and cold like you read about. MN --> NH --> CO --> MN --> CO

Still love it. The only that drags is the length (x-post). And, really, the more snow you get the warmer it is.... Minnepop (and NE and Boston) don't get snow so much as they get ice and bitter-kill-you cold.

Trump card: In junior high I had to go to school when it was -90 F (w/wind chill). They closed school the next day just because the collective ire of the Parents was so destructive.

giboyeux (skowly), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 05:23 (sixteen years ago) link

Sam is OTM. When you have time to get used to it, like during a real, two- or three-month-long fall, winter ain't so bad. The other thing: 30 degrees isn't that cold, but if you live in a warm climate, no way you have the clothes for it.

Pears can just fuck right off. (kenan), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 05:26 (sixteen years ago) link

I've seen plenty of snow. I'm seeing snow right now. I stiil think it's pretty neato.

The harshness of a winter is relative to each person based on what they've been accustomed to. A 60 degree day now would feel warm, in June, cold. Same thing.

oops (Oops), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 05:40 (sixteen years ago) link

I'm seeing snow right now. I stiil think it's pretty neato.

Isn't it, though? So pretty as it falls. It's starting to stick, too... 2 to 4 inches by morning.

Pears can just fuck right off. (kenan), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 05:42 (sixteen years ago) link

Snow was cool until about the age of 12. The first day my father handed me the shovel and told me to clear the driveway on my own, that was it. Going out the front door on a winter morning when it's still dark, and having to dig the car out before you can even leave is the worst thing in the world. I hate driving in it, I hate being splashed by disgusting brown slush. It looks good on postcards, but the reality is much harsher. Snowballs are fun, but they hardly make up for the rest.

J-rock (Julien Sandiford), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 06:08 (sixteen years ago) link

It looks even more neatoer while driving.
xpost

oops (Oops), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 06:10 (sixteen years ago) link

You're forgetting snow forts!
xpost

Apparently now known as (o )( o) (Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 06:11 (sixteen years ago) link

Ah - it is the driving thing that inspired this thread.
I was telling my Australian g/f that it might be snowing for my drive to Québec City in December. Her response was along the lines of "Ooohh, that will make for a nice drive". I then explained to her why it would make for anything but.

I kind of realized that to those with little snow experience; snow = lovely & picturesque, something to appreciate for its beauty.
But to those who(m) have become accustomed it and what it brings; snow = chaos & pain, something to fear!

Apparently now known as (o )( o) (Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 06:22 (sixteen years ago) link

I miss snow.

luna (luna.c), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 06:29 (sixteen years ago) link

in chicago everyone complains about the heat and the cold.

we all suck and are bitches.

todd swiss (eliti), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 07:33 (sixteen years ago) link

J-rock's old-enough-to-hold-a-shovel story otm.

Ken L (Ken L), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 07:35 (sixteen years ago) link

Yep. In fact, I don't think I'm ever going to own a house/live at my parents' house in Wisconsin just to avoid the snow shovelling.

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 13:38 (sixteen years ago) link

I actually meant it the other way around, Sam -- that the long duration of the winters would make people complain about it more, because you have time for the novelty to wear off and you get sick of being sick (or everyone around you being sick; somehow that's worse because you can't do anything about it). But for NY, I don't know -- I was guessing based on NH (which, granted, I lived in back when things were colder).

For me, heat will always trump cold because in few parts of the country does heat hurt. Sure, you can suffer heat stroke and heat exhaustion, but rarely by just standing around, and even in hot parts of the country those aren't usual risks for a typical summer day. Waiting for the bus in sub-zero weather, bundled up like that kid from A Christmas Story, and still in pain because of how cold the air is when I inhale? Dud. But that's just the "I hate being covered in sweat after walking to the mailbox" analogue; ultimately there is not much objective to say about weather except to note that it happens.

Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 14:00 (sixteen years ago) link

friend rescued, we even stopped at a 7-11 that was open on the way back and stocked up on junk food and wine so it's festive (as long as my power holds out). driving wasn't as bad as I thought (although still wildly unsafe, mostly due to people in SUVs and trucks that seem to think gunning it is the way to deal with not being able to get up an icy hill).

3/4 of my friends have been sitting in the dark and cold without power for over 24 hours now, all over the state. some of 'em have gas stoves so they can at least make coffee. stay warm everyone!

fbclid=fhAZ3l (f. hazel), Tuesday, 16 February 2021 19:45 (two weeks ago) link

wonder how many tech workers who were planning on leaving California for Texas are reconsidering their plans rn ... 55F and partly cloudy ... it drizzled a bit the other day

sarahell, Tuesday, 16 February 2021 20:16 (two weeks ago) link

or rather, to use the term from the place I lived where I did get to know snow -- it was "Providencing"

sarahell, Tuesday, 16 February 2021 20:17 (two weeks ago) link

I'm also in Austin. My electricity has been out for over 36 hours and it looks like we are getting at least another night of this. This was clusterfuck I was not anticipating at all.

Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Tuesday, 16 February 2021 20:33 (two weeks ago) link

iving wasn't as bad as I thought (although still wildly unsafe, mostly due to people in SUVs and trucks that seem to think gunning it is the way to deal with not being able to get up an icy hill)

when i lived in north carolina it snowed a half-inch or so once or twice, and i still remember how all the cars that were spun out onto shoulders or into ditches were always the gigantic 4WD monster machines, apparently driven by people who had no idea how to actually use them in adverse driving conditions.

nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Tuesday, 16 February 2021 20:46 (two weeks ago) link

there's a main north-south artery here called Lamar Boulevard which has a curved incline between 24th and 29th streets, and it was just littered with spun out cars on the shoulders. and people were seeing the like eight beached cars and still not turning around! then a big truck came spinning down the southbound lane caroming off the cars scattered along the shoulders, that was enough to get everyone waiting for their attempt to crest the hill to say "fuck this" and turn around.

fbclid=fhAZ3l (f. hazel), Tuesday, 16 February 2021 21:01 (two weeks ago) link

and yeah, Moodles... freezing rain coming after midnight until morning, that's going to turn the roads into complete chaos

fbclid=fhAZ3l (f. hazel), Tuesday, 16 February 2021 21:02 (two weeks ago) link

We've had a ton of snow in WI as well, and it's been getting down to -10', but it's more or less business as usual here.

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it was like 30 all January, I kinda figured we were gonna pay for it

every time it snows I lose 2 more inches off my driveway. I'm running out of room here

frogbs, Tuesday, 16 February 2021 21:07 (two weeks ago) link

You Yankees should've seen me trying to kick the snow out of my driveway today. Then I got the (non-snow) shovel out, which was about as helpful as a tablespoon.

Finally, I got the big janitor's broom out, swept the snow off the Honda and called it a day.

pplains, Wednesday, 17 February 2021 00:49 (two weeks ago) link

Lost power at 5:30 PM, and it seems like afterwards that also happened to everyone I know on Facebook.

"what are you DOING to fleetwood mac??" (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 17 February 2021 03:56 (two weeks ago) link

I spent two hours in Walmart getting an air mattress for my mom and as I was being rung up she called to say her power just came back on.

Complete hell on Earth in there, shocked I didn’t see anyone throw a punch about line cutting or anything.

Joe Biden Stan Account (milo z), Wednesday, 17 February 2021 05:56 (two weeks ago) link

The 11-year-old boy wanted to go to Home Depot to get a sled.

I think he was impressed by my vivid reply about "how are we going to get there?" and "do you really think they still have any sleds left back there?"

pplains, Wednesday, 17 February 2021 14:17 (two weeks ago) link

now have a nice layer of ice coating everything from a night of freezing rain... still have power and water though!

fbclid=fhAZ3l (f. hazel), Wednesday, 17 February 2021 15:39 (two weeks ago) link

Got my power back a little while ago. I can see my breath inside!

"what are you DOING to fleetwood mac??" (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 17 February 2021 17:16 (two weeks ago) link

I just shoveled out my long inclined driveway with a garden shovel

Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Wednesday, 17 February 2021 18:22 (two weeks ago) link

just spent hours digging in the ice and dirt to find the water shutoff valve for a unit in my condo complex with a burst pipe. watching a waterfall sprouting out of the side of my building was an unsettling feeling.

fbclid=fhAZ3l (f. hazel), Thursday, 18 February 2021 01:41 (one week ago) link

No water, shocked at how long it takes to melt a pot of snow.

Joe Biden Stan Account (milo z), Thursday, 18 February 2021 03:46 (one week ago) link

Weirdly last night I dreamt I was in a house where pipes in the walls/ceiling were bursting and flooding shit.

Then this morning I read in the news somewhere this has been happening to some ppl.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Thursday, 18 February 2021 04:04 (one week ago) link

Texas' lieutenant governor said older Texans should sacrifice themselves to the coronavirus to save the economy.

Rick Perry says Texans should be willing to freeze to death to preserve an unregulated power grid.

Texas politicians keep demanding human sacrifices and it's weird. https://t.co/C3i5nNOVwt

— Ashton Pittman (@ashtonpittman) February 17, 2021

"what are you DOING to fleetwood mac??" (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 18 February 2021 05:12 (one week ago) link

Choosing an electric plan in Texas is the only shopping experience worse and more incomprehensible than picking an ACA plan.

Joe Biden Stan Account (milo z), Thursday, 18 February 2021 05:16 (one week ago) link

No water, shocked at how long it takes to melt a pot of snow.

had one of those "i cant believe this is 2021 america" moments this morning reading a how-to article in the ny times about 'tips for more effectively melting snow to get drinking water'. (I guess the trick is to melt a small amount of snow and get it boiling and add more snow to the boiling water.)

nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Thursday, 18 February 2021 14:58 (one week ago) link

The Dallas Morning News with its Letters to the Editor section... I'm sure all those cold Texan hearts will be warmed by this friendly missive from The Great White North:

Canadian sends advice

I am writing from Ottawa, Canada, with great sympathy for Texans struggling with the cold, topped off by power failures. Make sure to leave the taps in your house running at a trickle to prevent the water in the pipes from freezing and rupturing the pipes. Bundle up and stay together; you’re in our thoughts.

Our thoughts... and our prayers!

pplains, Thursday, 18 February 2021 15:42 (one week ago) link

The pipes thing is decent advice, though. I wouldn't think pipes were in danger of freezing at the temps they've got in Texas, but then I don't know how the lack of insulation in the houses there would affect things, so it's worth being aware of.

Lily Dale, Thursday, 18 February 2021 15:53 (one week ago) link

CANADIAN SENDS ADVICE - three words guaranteed to make any texan sit up an take notice

(tbc i didnt mean my earlier post as snark lol ppl dont know how to melt snow, but amazed that usa citizens are so ill-served that national papers are running articles on how to get potable water)

nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Thursday, 18 February 2021 15:54 (one week ago) link

xp to myself: never mind, I just saw some photos, pipes are definitely freezing.

Lily Dale, Thursday, 18 February 2021 15:55 (one week ago) link

Most houses have pipes in exterior walls here and no insulation at all. Nothing's buried very deeply either. "Freeze" usually means overnight temps drop to around 28-30 for a couple hours, not like the past 72 hours where it drops into the teens and stays there. We had single-digit temps on Monday and Tuesday... I've never seen that happen here ever.

When I was outside struggling with the burst pipes in our complex, the same thing was happening at two other complexes adjacent to mine. Once everything thaws all the buildings here are going to turn into sprinklers.

fbclid=fhAZ3l (f. hazel), Thursday, 18 February 2021 16:12 (one week ago) link

From what I've read, a lot of water lines run in attics in Texas too, which certainly doesn't help.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 18 February 2021 16:18 (one week ago) link

my power is back on. Just boiled up a bunch of water, but it sounds like the water treatment plants are back online, so hopefully the boil notice won't last long.

My main concern at the moment is that a pipe in the bathroom seems to be leaking, which caused a bunch of water to go into the adjacent closet. I'm doing what I can to dry out the carpet in the closet and not using the bathroom at this point. The water doesn't seem to be spreading beyond that, so it isn't clear how severe this is, but I'm at a loss for what else I can do to deal with it. As far as I can tell, no plumber is going to be available any time soon, and shutting off the water line seems like overkill.

Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Thursday, 18 February 2021 16:23 (one week ago) link

if there's a leak you can't stop, I'd turn off your water line. even a small leak will cause major havoc if you let it go for a couple days.

fbclid=fhAZ3l (f. hazel), Thursday, 18 February 2021 16:29 (one week ago) link

the issue is that leaves me with no water indefinitely

Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Thursday, 18 February 2021 16:38 (one week ago) link

as best as I can tell, no plumber is showing up until some time in March

Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Thursday, 18 February 2021 16:39 (one week ago) link

yeah, no good choices... that sucks.

fbclid=fhAZ3l (f. hazel), Thursday, 18 February 2021 16:59 (one week ago) link

I obviously have no idea how your place it laid out Moodles, but any chance there is a shutoff just for that bathroom? Some houses have branch lines that can be turned off to isolate a bathroom without shutting down service for the whole place. But that's not the case everywhere and it might inaccessible, just a suggestion. If you can possible visually trace the line anywhere, you might find another shut off point.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 18 February 2021 17:03 (one week ago) link

read this as "sorrow" at first, and was really intrigued to see if anyone would identify as not having known sorrow

treeship., Thursday, 18 February 2021 17:07 (one week ago) link

unfortunately there isn't anything obviously visible

Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Thursday, 18 February 2021 17:36 (one week ago) link

Sorry, just a hopeful thought.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 18 February 2021 17:39 (one week ago) link

Water pipes on the exterior of buildings boggles my mind, and I live only one state over.

An Australian relative was telling me once how he was trying to figure out something with his pipes because they were on the west side of his house and his water got hot in the afternoons. I was all WHAT.

I don't know how water gets to my upstairs toilet – maybe some sort of paternoster system – but I know at least that it's not snaking up the side of my house.

pplains, Thursday, 18 February 2021 17:41 (one week ago) link

Within the exterior walls, not actually on the outside of the wall. It usually doesn't get cold enough here for those "exterior" pipes to freeze, because you've still got the house's heating system overcoming the mild cold outside. This week we had a fatal combination of extended freezing temps far below what we usually see plus widespread power outages.

fbclid=fhAZ3l (f. hazel), Thursday, 18 February 2021 18:06 (one week ago) link

(also many homes here have electric heating only, no gas or oil except for maybe water heaters)

fbclid=fhAZ3l (f. hazel), Thursday, 18 February 2021 18:09 (one week ago) link

shutoff for the bathroom could be in the basement. i would call a plumber to see if they can tell you where it might be even if they can't come out right now. could save you a lot of trouble and $ in the future. like your bathtub falling through the ceiling as in breaking bad!

superdeep borehole (harbl), Thursday, 18 February 2021 18:11 (one week ago) link

we don't have basements here! as f. hazel was saying, I believe the tub that is against the exterior wall is the culprit.

Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Thursday, 18 February 2021 18:20 (one week ago) link

I've had frozen pipes in Georgia and Oregon and both times the problem was a pipe within an exterior, noninsulated wall

rob, Thursday, 18 February 2021 18:23 (one week ago) link

I worked on a gut and remodel of a Craftsman-style bungalow, when we got to tearing off the exterior walls, the insulation was torn up newspaper from the '20s.

Joe Biden Stan Account (milo z), Thursday, 18 February 2021 22:30 (one week ago) link

Tons of houses like that in Houston and Dallas - in the Sun Belt boom areas, the situation is less dire with houses built later.

Joe Biden Stan Account (milo z), Thursday, 18 February 2021 22:31 (one week ago) link

Yeah my house growing up in AU had external pipes, or at least exposed and in the garage.

Even we once had blocked pipes due to a freezing winter (about -10C). But only the once.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Thursday, 18 February 2021 22:57 (one week ago) link

...and we're back to sunny and highs in the upper 60s. it's beautiful outside, which belies how deeply traumatized people are.

fbclid=fhAZ3l (f. hazel), Sunday, 21 February 2021 17:42 (one week ago) link

only a 60 degree shift in less than a week, no biggie. It is very strange how it's just gone, but there's a lot left to do to get back to fully functioning.

Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Sunday, 21 February 2021 18:15 (one week ago) link

I think the rapid shifts increase the psychological weight - it happens every lesser winter storm, everyone is dazed for a few days because it so quickly ramps back into being nice. This time I'm seeing so many people with a thousand yard stare.

Joe Biden Stan Account (milo z), Sunday, 21 February 2021 19:10 (one week ago) link

Yeah, and after a year of COVID a lot of people went into this with not much left in the tank. And having your own home turn into hostile territory after months of being your sole refuge just breaks your brain.

I checked my receipts, and it looks like I started planning for this on the 7th, I bought a bunch of firewood and placed a big HEB curbside order for the 10th. At the time it seemed like overkill, now I'm glad I did it since I ended up hosting a guest for four days. My hands are still all torn to shit from digging in the ice for water shutoff valves.

fbclid=fhAZ3l (f. hazel), Monday, 22 February 2021 01:17 (one week ago) link

And this was a statewide disaster event, unlike a hurricane, which just pounds the coastal areas but generally falls apart into rain and minor wind incidents by the time they get to Austin or DFW.

"what are you DOING to fleetwood mac??" (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 22 February 2021 01:31 (one week ago) link


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