"Untitled Mike Judge Comedy"?

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nickalicious (nickalicious), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 15:07 (nineteen years ago) link

Private Joe Bowers, the definition of "average American", is selected by the Pentagon to be the guinea pig for a top-secret hibernation program, set 1,000 years in the future. He discovers a society so incredibly dumbed-down that he's easily the most intelligent person alive.

Luke Wilson y Maya Rudolph y Stephen Root y MIKE JUDGE. I hate to say this, but I have high hopes.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 15:09 (nineteen years ago) link

This was mentioned on Dr. Phil last week. They were doing a show on Performance Kids and one of the kids had just finished or was about to start shooting scenes for "Untitled Mike Judge Comedy".

Huk-L, Tuesday, 30 November 2004 15:10 (nineteen years ago) link

"etan cohen" is not ethan coen btw. different guy.

stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 15:11 (nineteen years ago) link

Sounds like a funny 'Harrison Bergeron'. Still, Luke Wilson = can't be bad.

Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 15:15 (nineteen years ago) link

"etan cohen" is not ethan coen btw. different guy.

I won a bet with my brother over this.

Huk-L, Tuesday, 30 November 2004 15:18 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm kinda glad it's NOT Ethan Coen. As ginormous a fan of his ouevre (ha ha I used a fancy word) I am, I think his sense of humor would clash way too much with Mike Judge's.

One thing I love about all of Mike Judge's work so far (Beavis & Butthead, Office Space, King Of The Hill) is that, although it's definitely tongue in cheek, it's all so completely SINCERE, which I think is why so many modern comedy vehicles fail (SNL, Mad TV, etc, being "zany" for laughs, not working).

nickalicious (nickalicious), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 15:25 (nineteen years ago) link

Also, his flagrant use of Stephen Root doesn't hurt.

Huk-L, Tuesday, 30 November 2004 15:29 (nineteen years ago) link

Didn't we have some kinda Stephen Root appreciation thread once?

nickalicious (nickalicious), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 15:30 (nineteen years ago) link

My old roommate worked on this movie. He said it should be hilarious.

Dale Panopticalis (cprek), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 15:34 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm sure we did, Nickalicious.

Huk-L, Tuesday, 30 November 2004 15:40 (nineteen years ago) link

The premise of this film sounds fuckin rad.

It's hard to kill a horse with a flute (AaronHz), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 15:59 (nineteen years ago) link

There's a Joel Cohen who writes for The Simpsons -- not the same guy.

Sanjay McDougal (jaymc), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 16:00 (nineteen years ago) link

There's a Lenny Kravitz in Mordecai Richler's The Apprenticeship of Duddy Kravitz who's not a lame rocker.

Huk-L, Tuesday, 30 November 2004 16:01 (nineteen years ago) link

actually if we don't manage to kill ourselves off first, the picture paitned of the future there is entirely possible

trigonalmayhem (trigonalmayhem), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 16:02 (nineteen years ago) link

There's a Homer Simpson in The Day of the Locusts by Nathaniel Merriweather.

n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 16:27 (nineteen years ago) link

three months pass...
That Nathaniel Merriweather isn't Dan the Automator.

This movie has a title now! It is to be called 3001.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Thursday, 17 March 2005 15:21 (nineteen years ago) link

...A Space Office

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 17 March 2005 15:24 (nineteen years ago) link

From the IMDB msg bd:

WORST MOVIE EVER IN THE HISTORY OF THE UNIVERSE.

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UPDATED Sun Mar 6 2005 21:21:49

WORST. MOVIE. EVER.

i saw a free screening and i almost died. DIED!
think of the worst movie you have ever seen and multiply it by 56,678.
Mike Judge, what happened? you used to be cool.
And luke wilson, you are so attractive, what went wrong?

gahhh just do youself a favor and dont go see this when it comes out. it was so effing terrible.

and dont think i'm some human devoid of all things humorous; i love silly movies just as much as i love serious dramas, but this movie? good god. worst humor ever.

if you DO go see this, try your hardest not to kill yourself while viewing it. in fact, make sure not to take any sharp objects with you; you just may stab your eyes out.

Huk-L, Thursday, 17 March 2005 15:34 (nineteen years ago) link

!

I mean, I'm not an Office Space cultist or anything but it was good fun and his other stuff's been great, so I'm kinda surprised by the vehemence of this! The lack of detail on what exactly WAS wrong makes me suspicious.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 17 March 2005 15:36 (nineteen years ago) link

There were lots of people who thought Beavis & Butthead weren't funny, either.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Thursday, 17 March 2005 15:39 (nineteen years ago) link

Yes, well, they were wrong and deserved to be poked with sticks. I trust you agree with me on this.

(Actually, Nickalicious, you ever going to take a visit out here? I keep meaning to get out there but reality always intervenes.)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 17 March 2005 15:41 (nineteen years ago) link

I may be coming out there this fall! Unfortunately, by 'there' I actually mean San Fran.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Thursday, 17 March 2005 15:45 (nineteen years ago) link

That's more than all right! NICKSFFAP -- bring your kid with if you can (and if you can't bring him in spirit!).

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 17 March 2005 15:46 (nineteen years ago) link

That bad review looks like an inside job. ASTROTURF

Zebra, Alpha Go! (cprek), Thursday, 17 March 2005 16:24 (nineteen years ago) link

one year passes...
Idiocracy is definitely not the grim disaster that it's un-release would have you suppose. AS you probably know, the plot is your basic Sleeper/Buck Rogers rip, with a regular guy from the present sent to the far future (the deus ex plot device here is a military experiment,) the twist being that in the future things have gotten worse as people have gotten stupider. An opening montage with a pompous high school science class film strip narrator explaining how natural selection backfires because of selfishness is worth the price of admission. The vicious satire of dumbing down is absolutely hilarious - it's great to see all the most obnoxious quirks and behaviors that grow ever more ubiquitous treated with unironic scorn instead of unironic love or ironic approval. It has pretty much the same problem as Office Space has, which is that Judge is clearly more interested in puncturing worthy targets and writing good gags than constructing compelling plots or character arcs. There's plenty of big laughs here from one-liners and especially sight gags to the point that it'll certainly stand up to repeat viewings just to get all the corner-of-the-screen minijokes. One insidious thing about the film is the focus it gives to the media/entertainment aspect of the future, since some of the shitheaded TV that's swept the world actually had me roaring with laughter, especially the reality show "Ow, My Balls!"

In a way, Luke Wilson's Joe - an ordinary unambitious guy turned savior of a dunderheaded world - feels like a guilty conscience's reaction against Office Space's Peter Gibbon, for whom lack of ambition turned out to be the key to happiness and his greatest virtue. Joe has a revelation late in the movie that he was part of the problem in his own time but was able to skate by because of other, smarter people doing the hard work of running the world. When he becomes the smartest man on earth he accepts the responsibility that goes with such a position. The other 20th Centurian, a prostitute recruited by the army is less negative about the fucktard's dystopia she finds herself in, at first because she discovers it's really easy to rip off the morons she's surrounded by, then later because it's a chance at a new life. One of the better running gags is that Joe never figures out she's a hooker, accepting her story that she's a struggling painter long after it's clear she's bullshitting him.

I fully expect Idiocracy is going to become a cable/video sensation, especially since it looks like even fewer people will see it at the cinema than saw Office Space on it's first release. Watching it on Comedy Central or TNT would be especially wierd, since the culture they exemplify are the subject of so many of Idiocracy's skewerings. Still, they'll run anything that gets good ratings and is highly quotable and rewatchable, so I bet by this time next year it happens.

100% CHAMPS with a Yes! Attitude. (Austin, Still), Saturday, 2 September 2006 21:47 (seventeen years ago) link

when's this out?

kingfish high command (kingfish 2.0), Sunday, 3 September 2006 02:13 (seventeen years ago) link

Yesterday, sorta. I think I read it's on 125 screens nationwide. It's a serious burial job. The dope is that test audiences hated it. Maybe, but sounds crooked to me - the theater I was in was roaring. I think it has more to do with some really nasty satire of some really big companies.

100% CHAMPS with a Yes! Attitude. (Austin, Still), Sunday, 3 September 2006 02:28 (seventeen years ago) link

i will go see this tomorrow

cousin larry bundgee (bundgee), Sunday, 3 September 2006 04:57 (seventeen years ago) link

hacks GOD FUCKING HELL

WJAT (pete38), Sunday, 3 September 2006 05:20 (seventeen years ago) link

dammit, i want to see this. i feel like the "tested poorly in screenings" thing is the badge of quality.

GOD PUNCH TO HAWKWIND (yournullfame), Sunday, 3 September 2006 05:52 (seventeen years ago) link

Just got back from a late screening in Hollywood. It's BRILLIANT. Haven't laughed that hard in a movie in a long time.

"Go away! 'Batin'!"

Tiki Theater Xymposium (Bent Over at the Arclight), Sunday, 3 September 2006 06:22 (seventeen years ago) link

I think it has more to do with some really nasty satire of some really big companies.

Yeah, this is pretty fucking fishy.

Marmot (marmotwolof), Sunday, 3 September 2006 06:27 (seventeen years ago) link

not even playing in NYC or philly AT ALL, apparently. fuck you, fox.

GOD PUNCH TO HAWKWIND (yournullfame), Sunday, 3 September 2006 09:26 (seventeen years ago) link

http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1808674683/details

this still lists the wider opening as TBA

kingfish high command (kingfish 2.0), Sunday, 3 September 2006 09:37 (seventeen years ago) link

random post from imdb:

Los Angeles
Chicago
Dallas
Houston
Austin
Atlanta
Toronto

are the cities.

kingfish high command (kingfish 2.0), Sunday, 3 September 2006 09:48 (seventeen years ago) link

with a handful more here & there. Weird.

kingfish high command (kingfish 2.0), Sunday, 3 September 2006 09:49 (seventeen years ago) link

AHHHHH! MUST SEE! I had no idea this was actually coming out!

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Sunday, 3 September 2006 13:09 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.worstpreviews.com/images/idiocracy.gif

señor citizen (eman), Sunday, 3 September 2006 15:41 (seventeen years ago) link

got my ticket for this -- 1:10 showing @ the arclight!

el borracho (Jody Beth Rosen), Sunday, 3 September 2006 15:51 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.mrmovietimes.com/movie-images/04622101.jpg

señor citizen (eman), Sunday, 3 September 2006 16:02 (seventeen years ago) link

luke wilson, you are so attractive, what went wrong

Machibuse '80 (ex machina), Sunday, 3 September 2006 16:26 (seventeen years ago) link

pretty funny. i wished maya rudolph had a better part, though.

el borracho (Jody Beth Rosen), Sunday, 3 September 2006 22:51 (seventeen years ago) link

Awful in every way. I was seriously getting ready to leave the second time he gets arrested, but I never do so I stuck around, to my regret.

I think it has more to do with some really nasty satire of some really big companies.
That's crazy talk. This is the most de-fanged satire of all time. Ghetto people talk funny! Americans are stupid and obsessed with violence! Starbucks handjobs! Poor/stupid people breed like rabbits!

milo z (mlp), Monday, 4 September 2006 02:55 (seventeen years ago) link

aw damn.. wait milo, did u like office space?

señor citizen (eman), Monday, 4 September 2006 05:34 (seventeen years ago) link

Lots.

milo z (mlp), Monday, 4 September 2006 05:45 (seventeen years ago) link

APOSTATE!

Yeah, well, it's definitely a flawed picture. Sorry you didn't like it more. I'm willing to concede that

a - I am a total Mike Judge fanboy
and
b - Going after some of my favorite targets (dumb tv, anti-intellectualism, corporate overlording) may have influenced me to be kinder to it than deserved.

On the other hand, I really did laugh a LOT.

100% CHAMPS with a Yes! Attitude. (Austin, Still), Monday, 4 September 2006 10:46 (seventeen years ago) link

i found myself laffing quite sparsely. i was really hoping to like this, too. the one thing i consistently snickered at were all the 'reading is for fags' lines.

i also agree with milo about the defangedness of the satire. hardly what one would call hard-hitting.

robots in love (robotsinlove), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 02:07 (seventeen years ago) link

there was some really funny stuff in this, but most of the broader humor seemed to fall flat, it was the marginal jokes that were best. the movie seems sloppy, sort of ugly and shambolic, and sort half-assed. on purpose?

but i defy anyoe to watch this in suburbia and not feel a bit of painful recognition upon leaving the theater and coming out into the world again. it's not so much a feeling of elitisim i get, but just an exhaustion with the relentlessness of modern culture's attack on your intelligence and senses, ie "I'm eating! fuck you!"

ryan (ryan), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 04:12 (seventeen years ago) link

Space Merchants and its sequel (I think its called "the Merchants' War"?) are both amazingly prescient, funny shit. Pohl and Kornbluth really brought out the best in each other. (Pohl's other real masterpiece is "Jem" - highly highly recommended)

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 6 August 2008 18:26 (fifteen years ago) link

It could be just like another King of the Hill type show but from a different angle.

I pointed out the key difference above

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 6 August 2008 18:27 (fifteen years ago) link

wait, are the writers at least the same as king of the hill?

CaptainLorax, Wednesday, 6 August 2008 18:28 (fifteen years ago) link

fwiw I don't have any problem being satirized by Mike Judge - he's always skewered leftist tropes (cf hippie teacher in B&B, numerous guest characters on King of the Hill, bits of Idiocracy, etc.) its just that this seems like a really uncreative premise, not exactly fraught with possibilities.

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 6 August 2008 18:33 (fifteen years ago) link

what about the possibilites for king of the hill... who would have imagined

CaptainLorax, Wednesday, 6 August 2008 18:41 (fifteen years ago) link

I think they could make an whole episode about rescuing mice in the basement alone. Or someone getting sick and they don't want the normal medicine and they just get sicker.

CaptainLorax, Wednesday, 6 August 2008 18:42 (fifteen years ago) link

like I said above, that stuff isn't particularly funny because its just built on reinforcing an existing stereotype - King of the Hill works so well because, among other things, it actively plays against stereotypes

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 6 August 2008 18:43 (fifteen years ago) link

you could reduce yr plot suggestions to "hippy does something hippie-ish" - King of the Hill resists those kinds of reductions (for ex. Hank enjoys dancing with his dog, Hank accidentally uses crack as fishbait, etc.)

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 6 August 2008 18:47 (fifteen years ago) link

Well hopefully they won't just reinforce stereotypes but actually have some normal issues as well as that kinda stuff. I bet it wont get good like that until at lest a few episodes into the season though. Remember the earliest episodes of king of the hill. That show has come a long way.

CaptainLorax, Wednesday, 6 August 2008 18:50 (fifteen years ago) link

eight months pass...

Not so sure about this, but I'll give Judge the benefit of the doubt...

http://www.apple.com/trailers/miramax/extract/

Carroll Shelby Downard (Elvis Telecom), Saturday, 11 April 2009 10:12 (fifteen years ago) link

i predict lols. it's a pretty basic trailer.

FREE DOM AND ETHAN (special guest stars mark bronson), Saturday, 11 April 2009 10:27 (fifteen years ago) link

is it an old-fashioned movie-thing to have the male romantic lead be 15 years older than the female?

conrad, Saturday, 11 April 2009 11:31 (fifteen years ago) link

bateman is like four years older than wiig. isn't he supposed to be older than mila kunis. like, she is a significantly younger woman, in the film, and that's a thing.

whereas in (say) wedding crashers, nobody mentions it.

FREE DOM AND ETHAN (special guest stars mark bronson), Saturday, 11 April 2009 11:34 (fifteen years ago) link

OK, the story isn't clear in the trailer - just wondered after they were both kind of flirting w/ one another

is it an old-fashioned movie-thing to have the male romantic lead totally understandably and romantically pursue the much younger female in his employment because he and his wife have some problems w/ their sex life that neither of them will discuss?

conrad, Saturday, 11 April 2009 11:39 (fifteen years ago) link

well, the sweatpants gag was pretty good anyway

Zero Transfats Waller (Oilyrags), Saturday, 11 April 2009 13:01 (fifteen years ago) link

looks good.

Suggesteban Cambiasso (jim), Saturday, 11 April 2009 14:48 (fifteen years ago) link

especially after idiocracy :(

Suggesteban Cambiasso (jim), Saturday, 11 April 2009 14:48 (fifteen years ago) link

bateman is like four years older than wiig.

Read this as "batman is like four years older than wiig" and was like, huh?

OK, fine, yes, I Goggled it (Pancakes Hackman), Saturday, 11 April 2009 15:11 (fifteen years ago) link

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2253574/

conrad, Saturday, 11 April 2009 15:22 (fifteen years ago) link

I liked Idiocracy but yeah mostly cos it made shots at the anti-intellectual pro-materialist America that I grew up in and have come to loath. After the first half hour it starts going downhill, cos the plot itself takes over, and the plot is pretty mind-numbingly stupid.

Adam Bruneau, Sunday, 12 April 2009 00:56 (fifteen years ago) link

one month passes...

Goode Family premiere tonight. Anyone else watch?

(in short, rather promising for a pilot episode despite obvious unintentional KOTH/Beavis & Butthead flashbacks)

Carroll Shelby Downard (Elvis Telecom), Thursday, 28 May 2009 06:36 (fourteen years ago) link

How long should it take the characters to build for a proper show?

kingfish, Thursday, 28 May 2009 07:41 (fourteen years ago) link

that show looks horrible. is there any joke beyond LOL LIBERALS?

brian krakow has a posse (bug), Thursday, 28 May 2009 07:41 (fourteen years ago) link

i didn't watch it. i guess i'm hoping it'll be more than lol-liberals in the same way king of the hill is more than lol-texans. but i don't know.

would you ask tom petty that? (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 28 May 2009 13:24 (fourteen years ago) link

watching clips on youtube and this shit is just lethal

da croupier, Friday, 29 May 2009 16:11 (fourteen years ago) link

What could be funnier than an indictment of Mr. Van Driessen.

da croupier, Friday, 29 May 2009 16:17 (fourteen years ago) link

Following this and the movie about how only the stupid mongrel poor are breeding, I can't say I'm anticipating his new movie about a factory owner whose employees are exploiting him.

da croupier, Friday, 29 May 2009 16:23 (fourteen years ago) link

that show is pretty obviously getting burned off over the summer.

akm, Friday, 29 May 2009 16:39 (fourteen years ago) link

two months pass...

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1225822/

"Extract"

Joel, the owner of an Extract plant, tries to contend with myriad personal and professional problems, such as his potentially unfaithful wife and employees who want to take advantage of him.

Mila Kunis, Ben Affleck, Jason Bateman, J.k. Simmons, Kristen Wiig, and imdb doesn't list if David Herman will be in this or not.

Had no idea this was coming until it popped up as a sidebar advert on facebook.

kingfish, Friday, 7 August 2009 08:55 (fourteen years ago) link

http://s3.amazonaws.com/hitfix/assets/21/extract_movie_poster.jpg

kingfish, Friday, 7 August 2009 08:56 (fourteen years ago) link

Idiocracy was so bad! Such an elitist/classist story, and there weren't even that many good jokes. The only funny bits where the TV shows the dude was watching.

Tuomas, Friday, 7 August 2009 08:59 (fourteen years ago) link

canNOT get a read on this movie. the concept/trailer are baffling and unfunny.

sean gramophone, Friday, 7 August 2009 13:07 (fourteen years ago) link

there's a lot of catharsis in watching Idiocracy, elitist or not (i dont think it is, even if it is in the tradition of decline of the West types like Spengler or Heidegger).

ryan, Friday, 7 August 2009 13:14 (fourteen years ago) link

poor ppl are the most disgusting savages in all the world imo

galumphing lummox (bug), Friday, 7 August 2009 13:35 (fourteen years ago) link

maybe im giving it too much credit but i took its target to be more the lowest common denominator drives of capitalism or the mass media. (this is probably some creative misreading on my part, I'll admit.)

ryan, Friday, 7 August 2009 13:52 (fourteen years ago) link

<3 Idiocracy, F y'all

°⌉ 3⊥∀N (╓abies), Friday, 7 August 2009 13:57 (fourteen years ago) link

maybe im giving it too much credit but i took its target to be more the lowest common denominator drives of capitalism or the mass media. (this is probably some creative misreading on my part, I'll admit.)

no i definitely think that was Judge's intent. it seemed like he got half way into it, realized the classist, potentially objectionable angles he was working and started pulling his punches (or losing interest altogether). the result managed to be both toothless and kind of offensive.

but i totally lol'd at the opening 3-4 minutes so I'm basically the most disgusting of savages in the world etc

^prizes the praise of the media, and the Europeans (will), Friday, 7 August 2009 14:10 (fourteen years ago) link

and will definitely go see Extract

^prizes the praise of the media, and the Europeans (will), Friday, 7 August 2009 14:11 (fourteen years ago) link

ten months pass...

extract was really good.

akm, Thursday, 10 June 2010 05:56 (thirteen years ago) link

i didn't think there was a single good thing about extract, and i am honestly baffled when people say they liked it. my whole family dug it and i'm more of a fan of both mike judge and jason bateman than any of them tbh

sleepingbag, Thursday, 10 June 2010 08:47 (thirteen years ago) link

it was funny? it was kind of sweet and understated too. also ben affleck: "xanax is good for everything. i take it for a common head cold. codeine cough syrup is good." "good for what?" "it's just good".

akm, Friday, 11 June 2010 04:43 (thirteen years ago) link

five years pass...

I watched Extract this weekend. It wasn't terrible but I think I only laughed once. I think Judge might have been going more for 'good natured' than 'hilarious'. There were some fairly well-observed character types (which is one of his greatest strengths, imo). But ultimately it was pretty much just an episode of a half-decent sitcom stretched out to three times the normal length. I don't really get why this had to be a movie.

Probably the first and last time I'll ever say this but: Ben Affleck was the best thing in this movie.

maybe my clam is just more toxic (Old Lunch), Monday, 22 February 2016 19:04 (eight years ago) link

Extract, iirc, was a big nothing. Like they cranked out a first draft, asked Judge if he wanted to work on it some more, and he just sort of shrugged and said "eh." As opposed to "Idiocracy," which is a great idea and was packed with jokes but clearly came off compromised by studio interference and Judge's lack of interest in salvaging a project for the same people that screwed him over.

I keep forgetting "Silicone Valley" is Judge.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 22 February 2016 19:21 (eight years ago) link

Ha, Silicon. But I bet Judge could make a funny Silicone Valley, too.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 22 February 2016 19:22 (eight years ago) link

two years pass...

surprised there's no talk of Tales From the Tourbus around here, non-stop awesomeness

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPTT6Kp3Ob8

Οὖτις, Thursday, 14 June 2018 20:15 (five years ago) link

five months pass...

season 2 pretty great - covering George, Bootsy and James Brown means certain things get repeated a bit, which is annoying, but whatever. More than a few anecdotes that were totally new to me (like Kush putting James Brown in a headlock the night of the JBs inaugural gig)

Οὖτις, Monday, 10 December 2018 16:56 (five years ago) link

three weeks pass...

pretty clear that Judge leans conservative but finding out he's a fucking Ben Shapiro stan ("liking" his dipshit tweets going back months) kinda bums me out :/

constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Sunday, 6 January 2019 22:52 (five years ago) link

Maybe the same sort of libertarianism that the South Park guys espouse. Wikipedia entry links to a report that Judge was at one point prepared to produce a series of anti Trump ads in the vein of Idiocracy for what that's worth.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 6 January 2019 23:04 (five years ago) link

Yeah I get more of a libertarian vibe

Οὖτις, Sunday, 6 January 2019 23:11 (five years ago) link

like i get that Shapiro's touted as this big "free speech" guy and i'm sure that appeals to someone like Judge. but he's also an unrepentant trans & homophobe, generally emblematic of Ted Cruz's millennial fan base (insofar as one exists)

constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Sunday, 6 January 2019 23:11 (five years ago) link


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