Marijuana: Classic or Dud?

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Dud. I now have a once intelligent, now zombified husband on my hands.
― king of the eyesores (papa november), Sunday, 14 November 2004 17:33 (eighteen years ago) bookmarkflaglink

Eep, that's no good. :-(
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 14 November 2004 17:38 (eighteen years ago) bookmarkflaglink

Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 5 October 2023 09:25 (seven months ago) link

i get a massive laugh when i cross the CT/MA border on I-91 and just get bombarded with weed billboards as if i were driving into the south.

― Western® with Bacon Flavor, Thursday, October 5, 2023 12:06 AM (six hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

I moved out of Boston about a month before this happened. Will be so weird to see the first time I go back. I had a medical card before that for a few years but I've never seen the recreational stores or billboards etc. Going from having a medical card to having a text a dude who shows up in fake pizza delivery gear was something else.

I can usually tell the diff between sativa and indica. I like both but it's nice to be able to choose if I know I have stuff to do.

How long do you need to abstain for a tolerance break? The last edible I had was 50mg. I have the tolerance of a pothead elephant. :/

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Thursday, 5 October 2023 10:33 (seven months ago) link

I can't tell a difference between strains, but you know, just an anecdote.

I had been a daily user for the last couple of years and it was taking 50mg+ every day to get me to where I wanted to be. Primarily gummies, but had switched to full spectrum hash oil to get the most bang for my buck. But I kept squirting more and more on my daily graham cracker.

Have taken a break for the last 25 days, not sure how much longer I'll go. My understanding is that you don't have to go too long to get the tolerance back down, but I've never done this before.

My sleep has been terrible for the last 25 days.

Jeff, Thursday, 5 October 2023 10:49 (seven months ago) link

Honestly that's the thing I'd be worried about most - sleep. Idk maybe I'll just cut way back for a bit and only smoke right before bed. We'll see.

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Thursday, 5 October 2023 10:57 (seven months ago) link

I think it's really interesting that so many people say they can't tell the diff between strains. I wonder if it's because there are a lot of hybrids?

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Thursday, 5 October 2023 10:59 (seven months ago) link

Probably due in part to me barely paying attention to the strain. It all got me where I wanted to go.

Jeff, Thursday, 5 October 2023 11:02 (seven months ago) link

I definitely get different effects from different edibles, I don't know if this is just different strains or because they are made with different extracts i.e. BHO vs distillate vs FECO etc or because of ratio of THC to CBD or CBG. probably some combination of all the above.

I have boiled sweets which I can eat several of and I just get a head high and can still function and do things, and chocolate fudge which is total couch lock but really nice, and THC syrup which is somewhere between those 2 extremes. talking to other people who get the same stuff, there is a pretty wide range in how this hits everyone, some people get pretty fucked up on a couple of the boiled sweets, but can take much more syrup than I can. definitely affects different people differently.

this is all much better than when all I could get was random shitty skunk on the street. wish it was legal here though, it's still a bit precarious, if the person I get this from quits or gets busted then I'm back to shitty skunk again

Colonel Poo, Thursday, 5 October 2023 11:02 (seven months ago) link

"not gonna claim that all 7000 strains of weed have their own unique profile but I can tell the difference between an indica and sativa. maybe not in edibles though."

i only take edibles and i stay away from straight indica ones because of their effect on me. i buy hybrids or sativa. i only take them at night. and sativa does make me feel less wasted and more speedy which i enjoy. some indica can make me really bummed out. sativa never does this.

it helps that now people are actually starting to give you more info on their packaging. i think most edibles used to be whatever they swept off of the floor but its different now. and they used to be less consistent. but there are companies now that JUST make large amounts of edibles and distillates, etc. Keva and Wana are big ones i trust. (both companies run by women too, i think...?) the Keva Camino gummies are....just way better that most others. it's like taking a real drug! they are clean like a good drug should be.

but everything can effect how you feel on them. how much you've eaten, how tired you are, etc.
i think edibles are a good alternative to smoking and even other drugs. you don't have to take a lot. i can take three puffs of today's pot and be really really stoned for hours. i can take 2 or 3 gummies if i want and just be fine. relaxed. not tired after i take them, etc.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4YlJQUtfBc

scott seward, Thursday, 5 October 2023 13:16 (seven months ago) link

i only take edibles and i stay away from straight indica ones because of their effect on me. i buy hybrids or sativa. i only take them at night. and sativa does make me feel less wasted and more speedy which i enjoy. some indica can make me really bummed out. sativa never does this.

This.

hat trick of trashiness (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 5 October 2023 13:34 (seven months ago) link

daily users with a high tolerance, are you using more than once a day? Im getting high nearly every day after the kids go to bed and my tolerance has only gone up a little. but I try to switch it up frequently between smoking and edibles

frogbs, Thursday, 5 October 2023 13:39 (seven months ago) link

I started using marijuana again this summer after 1.5 years of complete sobriety from weed and booze. I don't intend on returning to alcohol, but so far the herb has been gentle to me.

During my previous usage, I stuck to sativas or sativa-dominant hybrids until the year before I quit everything. Then I decided to just try out an indica to see if it would be as different as they are rumored to be. And because I typically buy ounces and use them to make my own batches of edibles, which last me months, once I bought the indica, I was locked into it for a while.

During that time, I got as close as I acn come to depression. When I ate edibles, I'd be down for the count. My anxiety would be ratcheted up, just playing awful thought movies in my head. My adhd during the day (when not using) got a lot worse.

But there are other factors in my life that may have contributed to that. Daily drinking in conjunction with the weed. I had covid immediately prior to the switch and I've wondered if there were possibly lingering neurological symptoms. This was in general a period when I wasn't getting enough exercise, as well. So I definitely don't blame my troubles on the strain switch, but the change seemed sharp at the time.

Now that it's legal in Maryland, I've just been buying gummies (including the companies skot mentioned). I've found that it's very useful to me to be able to visualize my approximate dose (the less THC, the better for me, I think) rather than trying to guess when I dip my spoon into a batch of homemade thc coconut oil. It's cool because I can specify gummies with a ratio of 20 mg CBD to 2 mg THC, although once the dispensary messed up and sold me a 20:10 ratio. And that was a bit of a surprise, but I just ended up cutting them into smaller pieces. Problem solved.

peace, man, Thursday, 5 October 2023 14:04 (seven months ago) link

x-post Yes. I don't have kids so don't need to wait for anyone to go to bed which means there is more time in the evening etc. What I need to do is set a rule where I don't smoke before a certain time. Not for any other reason than shit's expensive and mama needs some new fall clothes!

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Thursday, 5 October 2023 14:26 (seven months ago) link

Yeah, I never waited for the kid to go to bed. She’s 9 and knows about cannabis and her parents using it, primarily for medicinal purposes. She gets more offended when she sees me drinking a beer.

So I would typically start on the way home from work. Early afternoon on weekends. Never been a morning user.

Jeff, Thursday, 5 October 2023 14:30 (seven months ago) link

I can't handle the fact that she's 9 already wtf. I mean tbf if peace, man is who I think he is then I can't believe his daughter is 13 either! Nobody tell me the ages of their kids anymore. They're 5 and 9 afaic. ;)

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Thursday, 5 October 2023 14:35 (seven months ago) link

my youngest is off the college in boston and i'm glad because i can't be sure but he might have been snagging some of my gummies.

scott seward, Thursday, 5 October 2023 14:37 (seven months ago) link

"to"college

scott seward, Thursday, 5 October 2023 14:37 (seven months ago) link

NO WAY

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Thursday, 5 October 2023 14:38 (seven months ago) link

Already?! They were only so small like yesterday. Where's he going?

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Thursday, 5 October 2023 14:38 (seven months ago) link

Remember the daughter I was asking the site about college recommendations for a few years ago? She's 35 now, lol.

WmC, Thursday, 5 October 2023 14:38 (seven months ago) link

Yeah that's nuts too.

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Thursday, 5 October 2023 14:39 (seven months ago) link

he's going to Massart. he likes it! at least he tells me about it and his classes and that's huge because i think i might have gotten 5 minutes of high school talk in 4 years.

scott seward, Thursday, 5 October 2023 14:43 (seven months ago) link

I can't handle the fact that she's 9 already wtf. I mean tbf if peace, man is who I think he is then I can't believe his daughter is 13 either! Nobody tell me the ages of their kids anymore. They're 5 and 9 afaic. ;)


10 next month! It is hard to believe for me too.

Jeff, Thursday, 5 October 2023 14:48 (seven months ago) link

So wild.

X-post - i think i might have gotten 5 minutes of high school talk in 4 years - awwww! I worked right there on Huntington Ave for 7ish years. The area got a lot better during that time. So glad he likes it so far.

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Thursday, 5 October 2023 14:56 (seven months ago) link

I was shocked by how cheap really good weed is in the NYC weed shops. When I compare with what I used to pay one of those guys who'd come around with a backpack full of the little hard plastic containers with tape around the lid.. I mean, I was like, what's the smallest possible amount you can sell me and they're like... this for $30? And I'm like okay and they give me this very large bag of very dank weed. I guess I'm also used to vaping it, where 1/8 will just last forever. I guess a lot of people still just rolling up 100% weed joints or ripping bong hits and I guess it goes pretty fast in that case

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 5 October 2023 15:17 (seven months ago) link

I guess

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 5 October 2023 15:17 (seven months ago) link

yea I highly recommend getting the dry herb vape, they're easier on your lungs and really do make the weed you have last way longer. the Js I used to roll were like .5g but sticking .2-.25 in the vape gets you just as high. also much less pungent if you care about such matters

frogbs, Thursday, 5 October 2023 15:23 (seven months ago) link

cannabinoid hyperemesis, which to be fair is very rare and I think was both a genetic component and the way too high proof shit from the beginning issue

I personally know three people who had to quit because of this fwiw

out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Thursday, 5 October 2023 15:24 (seven months ago) link

OH! Is that the scromiting thing???

Jeff, Thursday, 5 October 2023 15:26 (seven months ago) link

I don't know that term but yeah, constant vomiting that can lead to kidney failure etc.

we did a shit ton of research on it (one of the people was my wife) and I remain convinced that using neem oil as a pesticide is a big part of the issue although some people do have the genetic marker (iirc it is a lack of something that helps metabolize THC)

out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Thursday, 5 October 2023 15:26 (seven months ago) link

solution: grow yr own (or quit)

out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Thursday, 5 October 2023 15:27 (seven months ago) link

huh i used neem oil when i grew my own. i didn’t know there were potential issues

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 5 October 2023 15:28 (seven months ago) link

Leafly says my theory is incorrect

https://www.leafly.com/news/health/neem-oil-cannabinoid-hyperemesis-syndrome

out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Thursday, 5 October 2023 15:29 (seven months ago) link

Lol I should buy a bong. Or make a gravity bong. It's been ages omg. TH - yeah, I smoke joints. I had a Pax in MA but was scared to bring it on the plane. Should get another.

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Thursday, 5 October 2023 15:44 (seven months ago) link

The vomiting thing sounds horrific. I know of it but not anyone who has had that personally. Hope L is ok now, Sleeve.

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Thursday, 5 October 2023 15:45 (seven months ago) link

she is, thank you

out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Thursday, 5 October 2023 15:47 (seven months ago) link

the only time i got desperately ill was when a dealer friend gave me that goo that comes in a plastic syringe and i put the tiniest tiniest amount on a cracker and all night i thought i was going to die. got the spins like crazy. which is another reason why i appreciate the very specific amounts on edibles at the store. i know how far i can go.

scott seward, Thursday, 5 October 2023 15:50 (seven months ago) link

they're trying to get the kid to an inpatient thing, because it's just not going well

apparently just sitting in the shower is the thing that makes you feel more comfortable and their water bill is suffering right now

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Thursday, 5 October 2023 15:52 (seven months ago) link

Jesus :/

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Thursday, 5 October 2023 15:57 (seven months ago) link

yep that's exactly what we went through

out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Thursday, 5 October 2023 16:04 (seven months ago) link

oof. that sounds horrible.

i feel so bad for these little kids going to the hospital after eating chocolate or gummies. they must be so scared.

i actually prefer buying edibles that are just pills. and something that a kid would never eat. i don't need the sugar or some great snack. they sell so much ice cream and seltzer at the one local place here. i just need the goods.

scott seward, Thursday, 5 October 2023 16:08 (seven months ago) link

i have a feeling once big pharma gets in on things you definitely will see a difference in strains and types. you will get a pot pill that mimics adderall or valium or prozac. oh its gonna happen mark my words.

scott seward, Thursday, 5 October 2023 16:10 (seven months ago) link

I think it's really interesting that so many people say they can't tell the diff between strains. I wonder if it's because there are a lot of hybrids?

Not just a lot of hybrids, it’s all hybrid, it’s a distinction that doesn’t really exist.

https://bedrocan.com/international-research-shows-no-genetic-distinction-between-sativa-and-indica-cannabis/

papal hotwife (milo z), Thursday, 5 October 2023 16:33 (seven months ago) link

yeah its kind of amusing to me that so much focus seems to be put on the flavors of edibles or all the different types of snacks you can get THC in, I mean I get the novelty of it but like the chocolate bars and rice crispy treats all seem so silly to me. gummies are good because they don't break apart or melt, the other stuff its like...just get high and get yourself a real snack, something that actually tastes good

that said I do dig the THC drinks a lot, especially as someone who likes to go out but tries to cut back on alcohol. they sell this THC syrup now which is super potent (I have to use the children's Tylenol syrenge, which makes me feel a bit like a degenerate) and you can mix it into all sorts of stuff. you can make Moscow Mules with it, or old fashioneds, or combine it with lemonade and iced tea and an energy drink and maybe a shot of rum if you're really looking for a good time

frogbs, Thursday, 5 October 2023 16:58 (seven months ago) link

I mean tbf if peace, man is who I think he is then I can't believe his daughter is 13 either!

― Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Thursday, October 5, 2023 10:35 AM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

That is correct. She turns 13 next week. Nice spreadsheet, ENBB ;) And my son is 19 and pursuing a freaking pilot's license.

I'm increasingly nervous about drugs about as my daughter gets older. When our son sprang his teenage drug problems on us, it came as a surprise. We thought that we had given him a reasonable discussion about drugs before he started using them, but it wasn't nearly enough. He and his buddies were into dabbing and getting blackout drunk and taking large quantities of acid and he was just a real mess for a few years. He's evened out now, just smoking flower and mostly just drinking beer. So I've gotta have a more serious, open conversation with my daughter about drugs before they make their way into her orbit, but I'm concerned about getting the right messages across.

peace, man, Thursday, 5 October 2023 17:09 (seven months ago) link

they sell this THC syrup now which is super potent

this is what I get, it's great, I usually just put it in orange juice & sparkling water, but it's also good if I come home from a night out and I'm drunk and want another beer but don't want to stay up all night so I put some in the beer (sometimes I stay up anyway but I drink less beer if I do so it's still better for me)

Colonel Poo, Thursday, 5 October 2023 17:29 (seven months ago) link

I think edibles are fine but I much prefer smoking/vaping or what Scott described. I don't want candy. I just want the weed.

Peace - I swear I don't have a spreadsheet just a stupidly good memory. 19! Glad to hear he's doing better.

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Thursday, 5 October 2023 17:53 (seven months ago) link

Oh and lozenges/gummies also easy to travel with which is a bonus.

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Thursday, 5 October 2023 17:54 (seven months ago) link

eating candy a lot easier than sparking up a bowl though

frogbs, Thursday, 5 October 2023 17:56 (seven months ago) link

ew

hat trick of trashiness (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 5 October 2023 17:57 (seven months ago) link

oh you mean gummies. Yeah, those are cool. I hate regular candy, though.

hat trick of trashiness (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 5 October 2023 17:58 (seven months ago) link


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