(I promise I’ll stop reviving this thread after this third viewing)
― Yawnsomely Literal Cover Band (morrisp), Saturday, 17 April 2021 05:50 (three years ago) link
i think a revive per view is to be expected
― Zach_TBD (Karl Malone), Saturday, 17 April 2021 05:53 (three years ago) link
“What’s it open?”
― Yawnsomely Literal Cover Band (morrisp), Saturday, 17 April 2021 06:26 (three years ago) link
Ah – I knew the guy sitting next to Diane at the dinner party (“Oh, Camilla was great in that!”) looked familiar:https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/ferrisbueller/images/9/94/Adams.PNG/revision/latest?cb=20180407120617(He seems to be sort of a Lynch regular.)
― Yawnsomely Literal Cover Band (morrisp), Saturday, 17 April 2021 06:32 (three years ago) link
(Link was to this)
― Yawnsomely Literal Cover Band (morrisp), Saturday, 17 April 2021 06:33 (three years ago) link
http://static1.1.sqspcdn.com/static/f/709071/28245310/1579540743427/bonnie+aarons+david+lynch.png
― a murmuration of pigeons at manor house (Matt #2), Saturday, 17 April 2021 09:02 (three years ago) link
Rewatched this for the first time in about 15 years last night. It's staggering. I'd absolutely internalised the feel of it (and realised that I was still feeding off it in some way - in the way that the best art continues to be nourishing long, long after the encounter) and remembered a significant amount of it but had also forgotten chunks: the cowboy, the audition(s), the ending.
I've only recently started watching Mad Men (I don't like to rush these things) and I'm more than happy to accept Lynch's Vedic dreamlogic and have Jimmy Barret and 'Dan' echoing within the same universe and the dumpster scene functioning as a kind of karmic reckoning.
― Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Saturday, 17 April 2021 10:20 (three years ago) link
That interview with Bonnie Aarons is great. I love that Lynch was happy for to be projecting sexuality in that scene (however buried).
― Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Saturday, 17 April 2021 10:22 (three years ago) link
“This is one of the finest espressos in the country!”
― calstars, Saturday, 17 April 2021 11:46 (three years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZ9t869USqs
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 17 April 2021 11:49 (three years ago) link
I'd like to know more about Cookie's backstory. The way Adam talks about his flophouse makes it sound legendary, and then he has a sweet side gig working at club silencio?!?
― Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Saturday, 17 April 2021 11:54 (three years ago) link
xp I think it’s — “That is considered one of the finest espressos in the world!”Sadly, it’s not a very “quotable” movie (my only knock against it!); that’s one of the few lines that qualifies. Maybe also, “Don’t drink all the Coke!”
― Yawnsomely Literal Cover Band (morrisp), Saturday, 17 April 2021 15:18 (three years ago) link
I've lived scenes like Diane's at that party: being alert to humiliations from people once in your life, being seated beside weary sour old ladies while a beat box pitter-patters in the background.
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 17 April 2021 15:21 (three years ago) link
Btw, I was very satisfied w/my 3rd viewing... I picked out even a few more connections btw. the two sections that I hadn't noticed before; and even the "extra pieces" which aren't so easily incorporated – Club Silencio, the old couple, the "bum" behind Winkie's – seemed to make a sort of sense to me.
However you "interpret" those elements – or even if you just think they're random surrealism (ha) – I think they're necessary to keep the story from feeling too pat and "just-so," if that makes sense.
― Yawnsomely Literal Cover Band (morrisp), Saturday, 17 April 2021 15:35 (three years ago) link
Sadly, it’s not a very “quotable” movie (my only knock against it!); that’s one of the few lines that qualifies. Maybe also, “Don’t drink all the Coke!”
― Alba, Saturday, 17 April 2021 17:36 (three years ago) link
Good call, a few of those others you mentioned are good lines (huh, I hadn’t processed the relevance of “this dream place”—glad you highlighted it!)
― Yawnsomely Literal Cover Band (morrisp), Saturday, 17 April 2021 17:39 (three years ago) link
I watched the beginning of the Behind the Scenes segment on the Blu-ray – it opens with the Diane/hitman scene in the diner, and Naomi Watts keeps tripping over the line: "It's just an actress's photo resume!" Funny that Lynch insisted on using that phrase, rather than just "headshot."
― Yawnsomely Literal Cover Band (morrisp), Saturday, 17 April 2021 17:54 (three years ago) link
the one that really feels quotable is the Cowboy, esp. “No, you’re not thinking; you’re too busy being a smart alec to be thinking”.
"There's sometimes a buggy. How many drivers does a buggy have?"
― peace, man, Sunday, 18 April 2021 11:30 (three years ago) link
^ Buggy seals it
― calstars, Sunday, 18 April 2021 12:13 (three years ago) link
In the Blu-ray extras, Justin Theroux tells a great anecdote about filming that scene. The producer guy who played the Cowboy didn’t/couldn’t learn his lines, so Lynch ended up taping them to Theroux’s head, face, and chest... he was literally reading them aloud for the performance.
― Yawnsomely Literal Cover Band (morrisp), Sunday, 18 April 2021 14:49 (three years ago) link
One thing I remember from one of the extras was Laura Harring talking about the direction Lynch gave her for her stumbling walk though the hills. “You’re like a broken doll”, which she found very useful. It struck me, because I’m pretty sure I heard him give exactly the same direction to an actress in another of his works, maybe Phoebe Augustine in Twin Peaks, or Isabella Rossellini in Blue Velvet or Sherilyn Fenn in Wild at Heart or, well, you get the idea. That childhood experience he talks about with the naked bloody woman staggering out of the darkness runs deep, eh?
― Alba, Sunday, 18 April 2021 15:00 (three years ago) link
For leading Diane up the “secret path” to the dinner party, he told her to “walk like a kitty cat.”
― Yawnsomely Literal Cover Band (morrisp), Sunday, 18 April 2021 15:04 (three years ago) link
Just found this, from 2012, ha:https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/national-international/mulholland-drive-star-believes-a-david-lynch-follow-up-is-being-born/1885656/
― Alba, Sunday, 18 April 2021 15:12 (three years ago) link
Also, TIL that she retains the title Countess von Bismarck-Schönhausen from an early marriage https://www.bfi.org.uk/interviews/david-lynch-laura-harring-mulholland-dr
― Alba, Sunday, 18 April 2021 15:15 (three years ago) link
Just learned that too! Btw, she has a shitty agent:
While fellow cast members Naomi Watts, Patrick Fischler, Robert Forster, Brent Briscoe and Bonnie Aarons (the terrifying hobo) are in the upcoming season of Twin Peaks, Harring’s name is noticeably absent. “My agent didn’t want me to be one of the 200 cameos,” she explains. Instead, her agent held out for a more substantial role that didn’t materialise.
― Yawnsomely Literal Cover Band (morrisp), Sunday, 18 April 2021 15:18 (three years ago) link
(Bonnie Aarons was not in The Return, btw. But Vincent Castallanos, the bro who gets the (er) head shot, is another actor who was.)
― Yawnsomely Literal Cover Band (morrisp), Sunday, 18 April 2021 15:31 (three years ago) link
My guess is that Harring would have had the Ashley Judd part.
― Chris L, Sunday, 18 April 2021 16:25 (three years ago) link
What else of interest was she ever in?
― It Is Dangerous to Meme Inside (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 18 April 2021 16:38 (three years ago) link
xp I was thinking that, too—though that’s a pretty substantial role!
― Yawnsomely Literal Cover Band (morrisp), Sunday, 18 April 2021 16:38 (three years ago) link
Hot take : the return is about 15 hours too long
― calstars, Sunday, 18 April 2021 16:41 (three years ago) link
In terms of screen time though Judd could have probably filmed all her scenes in a day. And as far as I know most everyone but Kyle was paid scale. That’s probably what the agent saw.
― Chris L, Sunday, 18 April 2021 16:42 (three years ago) link
BTW she must have hired a new agent in between TP:TR and when she had a wordless cameo in the Inland Empire credits.
― Chris L, Sunday, 18 April 2021 16:44 (three years ago) link
Or they thought a wordless cameo in a home movie's credits was fine, bu a speaking role in a highly-publicised prestige TV series for a major cable channel deserved better.
― bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Sunday, 18 April 2021 19:20 (three years ago) link
Sure seems like she was on a lot of magazine covers though, Spanish language or otherwise.
― Bewlay Brothers & Sister Rrose (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 19 April 2021 02:24 (three years ago) link
Okay, rewatched this, slow-watched and then speed-watched, over the weekend for the first time since it came out and can't stop thinking about it.
― Bewlay Brothers & Sister Rrose (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 19 April 2021 15:36 (three years ago) link
Just want to call out my favorite shot from the movie. The long zoom-out at the start of this clip, from what looks like a live musical performance to what is then revealed as a radio broadcast and then as a filmed scene of a radio broadcast. It breaks the 4th wall and just keeps on breaking them. I think it's a perfect little encapsulation of what the movie has to say about both filmmaking and storytelling in general, including the stories we tell ourselves. Also, it's just gorgeous to watch.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGOla3r6IhA
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Monday, 19 April 2021 16:00 (three years ago) link
Yeah, that was good, just as you describe.
― Bewlay Brothers & Sister Rrose (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 19 April 2021 16:07 (three years ago) link
and they're in drag!
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 19 April 2021 16:10 (three years ago) link
btw thanks to MD I briefly thought Justin Theroux was smokin' hot.
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 19 April 2021 16:11 (three years ago) link
Same. I got over it by the Charlie's Angels sequel tho.
― avatar of a kind of respectability homosexual culture (Eric H.), Monday, 19 April 2021 16:22 (three years ago) link
At which point I entered this phase:
https://i.redd.it/l803gndh1zc21.jpg
― avatar of a kind of respectability homosexual culture (Eric H.), Monday, 19 April 2021 16:23 (three years ago) link
I’d never noticed that!What is slow-watching, James? Like stopping and starting or actual slo-no?
― Alba, Monday, 19 April 2021 16:31 (three years ago) link
Yep, another layer of masks/performances.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Monday, 19 April 2021 16:34 (three years ago) link
xp was just gonna ask is "slow-watching" ... watching a movie from front to back in normal time?
― avatar of a kind of respectability homosexual culture (Eric H.), Monday, 19 April 2021 16:46 (three years ago) link
How do you view that scene in relation to Rebekah Del Rio's performance at Club Silencio?
― Yawnsomely Literal Cover Band (morrisp), Monday, 19 April 2021 16:46 (three years ago) link
I never connected this scene to Club Silencio - no hay banda indeed
― assert (MatthewK), Monday, 19 April 2021 16:47 (three years ago) link
oops sorry
(btw, this is the point on which the interviewer weirdly tried to buttonhole Lynch, in that DVD booklet interview)
― Yawnsomely Literal Cover Band (morrisp), Monday, 19 April 2021 16:49 (three years ago) link
(I hadn't made the connection, I'm too dense - guess the i'viewer wanted to show off that he did, lol)
― Yawnsomely Literal Cover Band (morrisp), Monday, 19 April 2021 16:50 (three years ago) link
yeah me neither, is what my post was meant to sayanother favourite little thing from this film is the way the camera continuously rises in the shots in Winkies while Dan describes his dream
― assert (MatthewK), Monday, 19 April 2021 16:53 (three years ago) link