yeah that live version of bring it on home to me is tremendous
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkLZ_pVwU3k
― marios balls in 3d for 3ds (Princess TamTam), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 05:57 (thirteen years ago) link
Cruise is great in Collateral. If Delon can use his good looks and coldness, Cruise can use his charm offensive to achieve the same thing.
― Gukbe, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 06:20 (thirteen years ago) link
Tubbs: So what's going on?Crockett: As in?Tubbs: As in there is undercover and then there is "Which way is up?".Crockett: What? Do you think I'm in so deep I forgot?Tubbs: [Tubbs and Crockett look at each other closely] I will never doubt you.
― omar little, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 06:37 (thirteen years ago) link
lets take this to the limit... one more time
― marios balls in 3d for 3ds (Princess TamTam), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 06:42 (thirteen years ago) link
Yes, no, maybe so.
― An Artily Shot Sesame Street (Eazy), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 06:53 (thirteen years ago) link
That's not what happens. What will happen is... what will happen is I will put a round at twenty-seven hundred feet per second into the medulla at the base of your brain. And you will be dead from the neck down before your body knows it. Your finger won't even twitch. Only you get dead. So tell me, sport, do you believe that?
― boots get knocked from here to czechoslovakier (milo z), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 06:53 (thirteen years ago) link
love that the trailer is basically a lot of guns being cocked
'ali' shd have been ALL like the opening sequence, like an entire sam cooke gig inter cut with fragments from the life of ali
― history mayne, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 08:51 (thirteen years ago) link
schnabels transformation from awful painter to rad filmmaker is one of the great mysteries of contpo art - before night falls is a straight up classic great movie
― ice cr?m, Tuesday, February 1, 2011 12:29 AM (9 hours ago)
yah maybe this disproves auteur bs for me. like how can this guy suddenly compose a frame?
― plax (ico), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 09:48 (thirteen years ago) link
You seem okay. But him, I don't like how he looks.
― pf smangs (San Te), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 11:14 (thirteen years ago) link
Do you wanna fuck with my partner or do you wanna do business with us? 'Cause I don't give a shit how you think he looks.
-with
― pf smangs (San Te), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 11:15 (thirteen years ago) link
i kinda like history mayne's idea, kinda like make an entire film out of that style or maybe like the end of the right stuff, when the astronauts are kicking it in the astrodome watching the performance while sam shepard is taking aim at the altitude record.
― omar little, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 16:27 (thirteen years ago) link
Pre-shooting screenplay, by the way.
― A double shot of Sesame Street (Eazy), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 00:28 (thirteen years ago) link
Rewatching this at the minute.
― w/no hesitation (mh), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 00:30 (thirteen years ago) link
I'm gonna tell you what's gonna happen. People are gonna come in here, and you know what they gonna say? They gonna look around and go 'Ola Hijo. That's some crazy motherfucking wallpaper, what is that? Jackson Pollock?'
― The all-jazz interpreter (Eazy), Tuesday, 8 March 2011 15:24 (thirteen years ago) link
So, I watched this again last night. And one thing that struck me is that after Trudie gets taken, it's not like Crockett has any moment of reckoning from his team, especially since it follows the scene in the club where he's dancing with Gong Li--like, none of his crew (or Trudie, after she gets out of her coma) says anything like "Maybe this came down on us this way because you fucked the boss's boss's boss's gal and CFO?"
― 27 Dresses, 13 Assassins (Eazy), Friday, 17 June 2011 15:10 (twelve years ago) link
Idk I think that was because they were seasoned professionals and knew they had to focus on the job at hand or lose their lives.
Even in the hospital scene they still had a task remaining.
Then again, that romantic subplot was the least convincing thing about the movie...
― Nebuchadnezzar Buchanan (Neanderthal), Friday, 17 June 2011 15:17 (twelve years ago) link
romantic subplot probably the best part of the movie.
― Gukbe, Friday, 17 June 2011 15:18 (twelve years ago) link
at least, the dancing-scene
without the romantic subplot there is no shot of montoya's back
― caek, Friday, 17 June 2011 15:20 (twelve years ago) link
It seemed very incongruous to Crockett's character, like it made sense why Gong Li played along, but even if his initial primary motivation was infiltration, he clearly fell for her really quick. I have to think an undercover would know it was a really poor course of action, given his experience.
I really took it as Mann trying to throw fans of the TV show a bone, since the rest of it so little resembled the shiny experience.
Still a great movie tho...
― Nebuchadnezzar Buchanan (Neanderthal), Friday, 17 June 2011 15:23 (twelve years ago) link
'Shiny experience'? I meant 'shiny exterior' (of the show)
― Nebuchadnezzar Buchanan (Neanderthal), Friday, 17 June 2011 15:24 (twelve years ago) link
Underrated movie. Still the best cold opening of all time.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 17 June 2011 15:36 (twelve years ago) link
Yea I hated the stupid director's cut opening they added on the DVD.
Seeing Crockett/Tubbs in the club while the Jay-Z/Linkin Park song plays is an awes beginning
― Nebuchadnezzar Buchanan (Neanderthal), Friday, 17 June 2011 15:39 (twelve years ago) link
There was a release that not the director's cut! There was a rumor for a while that it was going to go out of print and the director's cut would be the only one so I bought it right away.
― mh, Friday, 17 June 2011 15:49 (twelve years ago) link
Only the Director's Cut is available on Blu-Ray. :(
― Gukbe, Friday, 17 June 2011 15:56 (twelve years ago) link
what other differences are there apart from the cold open?
― caek, Friday, 17 June 2011 15:57 (twelve years ago) link
More character scenes, which aren't bad or anything, but losing that cold open is a major bummer.
― Gukbe, Friday, 17 June 2011 16:01 (twelve years ago) link
You can get a HD version of the theater cut, but it's on HD-DVD.
So, it probably exists out on download sites.
― mh, Friday, 17 June 2011 16:02 (twelve years ago) link
i keep meaning to read the first draft screenplay to see if there was ever meant to be more FBI stuff. the open is totally different to either version afaict.
http://www.dailyscript.com/scripts/miamivice.pdf
― caek, Friday, 17 June 2011 16:09 (twelve years ago) link
such mixed feelings on all mann's stuff exc. heat. opening of ali def. inspired. jamie foxx is a ridiculous actor.
― by another name (amateurist), Friday, 17 June 2011 16:36 (twelve years ago) link
so i read the screenplay. it clearly wasn't final: there's a ~3 scene bit toward the end where it's just "a scene in which ..." and then placeholder description.
but anyway major differences from the director's cut (i missed this in the cinema):
isabella is afro cuban
nicholas has one line, delivered over the phone
yero has a speech where he tells this story about how pablo escobar used to execute his good pilots after six flights, and he is 3 times as good as escobar, so he will take out tubbs+crockett after two.
the fbi mole plot is even thinner: it's the same up to the bit where yero agrees to share intelligence and tells them to check their email, but in the screenplay the email never comes. i'm not sure that plot ever had an ending.
the final showdown is very different. isabella is already with crockett when they find out yero has trudy, and gives them advice (she runs the drugs in on the boats with them). the trailer doesn't get blown up after they get trudy back, no hospital scenes, totally different action set pieces in the cargo park or wherever it's supposed to be
no shot of montoya's back
― caek, Wednesday, 29 June 2011 09:42 (twelve years ago) link
why are mann's director's cuts pretty much shittier than the theatrical cuts across the board?
― by another name (amateurist), Wednesday, 29 June 2011 11:59 (twelve years ago) link
I think he works better with whatever small constraints a theatrical cut imposes in that it cuts out the last 5% of the cruft that we really didn't need.
― mh, Wednesday, 29 June 2011 15:01 (twelve years ago) link
there is an all regions UK Blu Ray release of the theatrical cut fwiw.
― circa1916, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 11:10 (eleven years ago) link
sweet! There seem to be a bunch of random stores on amazon that keep selling region-free UK copies of films. I think the version of Zodiac I have is actually the brit one.
― mh, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 14:41 (eleven years ago) link
If you're going to spend a mil or two shooting a speedboat race, you might as well put it somewhere if it doesn't make final cut.
― caro's johnson (Eazy), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 15:00 (eleven years ago) link
xpost
Ha, yeah, just bought the UK bluray of Zodiac too. Apparently the 2 Disc American release is slightly better in quality but it's OOP and going for big bucks.
― circa1916, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 16:03 (eleven years ago) link
i got laughed at irl this weekend for saying that i really like this movie
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 15 May 2012 16:04 (eleven years ago) link
^^^i have been there
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 16:04 (eleven years ago) link
ppl are idiots
I just tell people it's going to be bad the first few times, and after that amazing.
― caro's johnson (Eazy), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 16:05 (eleven years ago) link
in general ppl look at you like an alien if you say you like michael mann
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 15 May 2012 16:09 (eleven years ago) link
in general ppl look at you like an alien if you say you like Miami.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 16:10 (eleven years ago) link
well yeah that too
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 15 May 2012 16:11 (eleven years ago) link
do you like....mojitos
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 16:29 (eleven years ago) link
whenever Sarge returns we take my catamaran to Havana to cool it with some mojitos.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 16:30 (eleven years ago) link
sounds like you're a fiend for them
― Fas Ro Duh (Gukbe), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 16:33 (eleven years ago) link
i would like a mojito rn
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 16:35 (eleven years ago) link
http://philadelphia.foobooz.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/07/miami_vice_mojo.jpg
― caro's johnson (Eazy), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 16:38 (eleven years ago) link