Audrey Hepburn or Katherine Hepburn?

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I used to be obsessed with Audrey and still consider her the most perfect-looking person ever, but a lot of her actual movies are underwhelming. I always found Katherine kind of annoying, but I've only seen her in "Bringing Up Baby."

I read somewhere that they were very distantly related.

Justyn Dillingham, Wednesday, 14 November 2001 01:00 (twenty years ago) link

Oh, Jeez. Audrey for Breakfast at Tiffany's alone, as well as being perfect looking. Katherine was the better actor tho.

JM, Wednesday, 14 November 2001 01:00 (twenty years ago) link

Audrey for Roman Holiday. Even after she had her hair cut she still looked wonderful.

DavidM, Wednesday, 14 November 2001 01:00 (twenty years ago) link

Especially with the bob, hell-o!

http://www.synapse- imaging.com/images/Audrey.jpg

"Sabrina" is one of my most favoritest movies of all time. It's almost perfectly written.

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 14 November 2001 01:00 (twenty years ago) link

i like Audrey best but top marks to KathArine for spelling her name the correct way, which none of you have done you rotters you :)

katie, Wednesday, 14 November 2001 01:00 (twenty years ago) link

God look at those eyes...

JM, Wednesday, 14 November 2001 01:00 (twenty years ago) link

Of course we all love Audrey, but Katharine was great too; "Bringing Up Baby" is high-sterical.

Sean, Wednesday, 14 November 2001 01:00 (twenty years ago) link

Oh, Katie, that's the spelling for Kate St Claire's version.

But I would not be without either Hepburn.

suzy, Wednesday, 14 November 2001 01:00 (twenty years ago) link

Suzy's answer I like best. :-)

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 14 November 2001 01:00 (twenty years ago) link

i don't like either of them.

ethan, Wednesday, 14 November 2001 01:00 (twenty years ago) link

That's because I'm a perfect meld of both. Seriously.

The pair are very distantly related. K's dad was a very famous urologist, her mum was an early suffragette and advocate of legalising abortion. Audrey was, on her mother's side, minor royalty.

suzy, Wednesday, 14 November 2001 01:00 (twenty years ago) link

Kate because of those sensible pantsuits and that withering glare.

anthony, Wednesday, 14 November 2001 01:00 (twenty years ago) link

Oh, oh, what a choice! I'd rather look like Audrey, but act like Katharine, both had fantastic attitudes to life well into old age and did plenty of Good Deeds. I say had... K is still alive, isn't she? I'm never quite sure about these things after all the time I've spent abroad.

Katharine's drunken scene in Bringing Up Baby is perfection - the way she curls her toes when she's picked up is just brilliant. But then Audrey has such grace and poise. I will not pick, it's like asking a mother to choose between her children.

Madchen, Wednesday, 14 November 2001 01:00 (twenty years ago) link

I like Audrey H a lot - "orm a good girrrl, Oi am!!!"

However, as time goes on, I find that I am likin Katharine more. That voice = rowr.

Let's get real tho' Neither could hold a candle to:

Norman Phay, Wednesday, 14 November 2001 01:00 (twenty years ago) link

damn greenspun w/their "lets insert spaces in yr URL" technique. Let's try again:

Try this if it doesn't work a 2nd time (sigh)

Norman Phay, Wednesday, 14 November 2001 01:00 (twenty years ago) link

http://www.pandorasbox.com/louisebrooks/pix/portraits/193 0/thirties08. jpg

JM, Wednesday, 14 November 2001 01:00 (twenty years ago) link

audrey by the thinnest of margins

Ed, Wednesday, 14 November 2001 01:00 (twenty years ago) link

Also my fashionista grandmother = the French K Hepburn. She had the same posh accent. KH is still alive and although demented, does that stoical new England thing of swimming every day, even in icy Connecticut water. She still keeps a townhouse over by the UN, which I used to walk by, just for luck. And BOTH Hepburns were in films with my personal screen god, Peter O'Toole. I've said before that Peter O'Toole is the world's best user of profanity and KH gives him a total run for his money in The Lion In Winter.

Bad point is I take the K Hepburn/S Tracy bitchfest as perfect model for male/female relationship, therefore boys scared of my putdowns which I don't bother with uunless I care. But the best thing of hers is Summertime, where she falls into canal in Venice. That whole film = swoon.

suzy, Wednesday, 14 November 2001 01:00 (twenty years ago) link

Thanx jimmy....

Norman Phay, Wednesday, 14 November 2001 01:00 (twenty years ago) link

Oh Katharine, you know it should be Kathryn.

Ally C, Wednesday, 14 November 2001 01:00 (twenty years ago) link

Audrey for sure!

toraneko, Wednesday, 14 November 2001 01:00 (twenty years ago) link

meees gorightry!!

chris, Thursday, 15 November 2001 01:00 (twenty years ago) link

they both have the most sensational eyebrows

Ed, Thursday, 15 November 2001 01:00 (twenty years ago) link

I find Katharine the better actor and sexier. Her in the Philadelphia Story - rwor! Audrey had a beautiful face, for sure, but she was just a bit too prissy. Especially in later years.

Nick, Thursday, 15 November 2001 01:00 (twenty years ago) link

I realised on the way home last night that the drunken scene I mentioned was Philadelphia Story, not Bringing Up Baby.

Madchen, Thursday, 15 November 2001 01:00 (twenty years ago) link

But Nick, I quite like prissy girls. yum.

a nonnymouse, Thursday, 15 November 2001 01:00 (twenty years ago) link

Don't make me pick! It would just seem so wrong somehow.

Speaking of wrong, phuck AMC for putting commercial breaks into their movies thus spoiling my enjoyment of Sabrina. I used to wuv AMC, but now they are bar-stards.

Nicole, Thursday, 15 November 2001 01:00 (twenty years ago) link

two years pass...
I have the audrey boxset ('sabrina', 'tiffany's', 'funnyface', 'paris when in...') sat here on my desk.

cºzen (Cozen), Sunday, 12 September 2004 13:51 (seventeen years ago) link

one year passes...
did she see herself as duth or british? both?

weird question i know but i'm just curious for some reason.

Lovelace (Lovelace), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 19:50 (sixteen years ago) link

i watched the jennifer love hewett as audrey biopic a few weekends ago. she is as wretched as you'd expect

kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 19:55 (sixteen years ago) link

Katherine no contest. For teh roffles as well as teh hotness.

Amity Wong (noodle vague), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 19:56 (sixteen years ago) link

No way. AH is so much more teh hotness than KH. Or anyone else.

Erick Dampier is better than Shaq (miloaukerman), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 20:05 (sixteen years ago) link

Audrey is too prissy and banal.

Amity Wong (noodle vague), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 20:07 (sixteen years ago) link

God, someone should have smacked the twee out of me upthread.

Lars and Jagger (Ex Leon), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 20:08 (sixteen years ago) link

katherine was probably better in bed but sex isn't everything, sometimes you want to look at ART

kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 20:12 (sixteen years ago) link

But then you would have bledsoe.

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Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 20:12 (sixteen years ago) link

I think it was Gore Vidal who said Audrey Hepburn was "every American man's dream: a girl who looks like a 12-year-old boy."

Maybe. A really sexy 12-year-old boy, though.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 20:21 (sixteen years ago) link

i don't really care for sabrina, or love in the afternoon (creepy) for that matter

s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 21:13 (sixteen years ago) link

what's wrong with love in the afternoon?

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 21:16 (sixteen years ago) link

Too obvious an age diff between the leads. Maurice Chevalier is good though.

k/l (Ken L), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 21:29 (sixteen years ago) link

was this supposed to be a serious question?

Mitya (mitya), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 21:31 (sixteen years ago) link

love in the afternoon is so gross

s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 21:32 (sixteen years ago) link

the movie or the practice?

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 21:32 (sixteen years ago) link

I do like when private detective Maurice C. asks soon-to-be-dating-his-daughter ladies man Gary C. the rhetorical question "Does an artist know Picasso?"

k/l (Ken L), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 21:37 (sixteen years ago) link

As I grow older I seem to be coming down on the Katherine side. Bringing up Baby is one of the best comedies of its era.

Ed (dali), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 08:36 (sixteen years ago) link

katherine, no question!

"don't say anything, hilary. just... go."


my grandfather gave me a bio of her to read - kate remembered. i started but then got sidetracked, but even the first few pages were more entertaining than most audrey hepburn movies.

tres letraj (tehresa), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 08:39 (sixteen years ago) link

katharine slays all comers. end of story.

like a circle in a spiral, like a wheel within a wheel (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 08:50 (sixteen years ago) link

i'm so embarrassed that i misspelled her name in the thread title!

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 08:53 (sixteen years ago) link

me too, in my answer!
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tres letraj (tehresa), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 08:55 (sixteen years ago) link

i refuse to live in a world where people find this ugly:

http://delirium.lejournal.free.fr/Katharine_Hepburn1.jpg

like a circle in a spiral, like a wheel within a wheel (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 08:56 (sixteen years ago) link

Oh, Jeez. Audrey for Breakfast at Tiffany's alone

I do prefer Audrey but her character in breakfast at tiffany’s did my head in, no guy would put up with that.

not-goodwin (not-goodwin), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 09:01 (sixteen years ago) link

Audrey never knew how to needle people. Kate could bore in like a steam drill. She also had a stronger jaw line. Natch.

Aimless (Aimless), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 18:11 (sixteen years ago) link

Katherine...especially in Holiday.

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 18:49 (sixteen years ago) link

Katherine = annoying and not sexy
Audrey = intensely annoying and not even remotely sexy

Katherine wins... just

Oh No, It's Dadaismus (and His Endless Stupid Jokes) (Dada), Thursday, 1 December 2005 10:30 (sixteen years ago) link

... both very attractive of course, just not sexy

Oh No, It's Dadaismus (and His Endless Stupid Jokes) (Dada), Thursday, 1 December 2005 10:31 (sixteen years ago) link

did she see herself as duth or british? both?

You mean dud or Dutch? ;-) I do know that she could speak Dutch quite well. I think her granny made sure she continued using the language so she didn't forget it. I think she's so lovely. Very ethereal. Like a fragile porcelain angel. But not really sexy. If I remember correctly she said she was so skinny because of the war: the atrocities made her feel guilty of eating (or something along those lines). :-(

Nathalie (stevie nixed), Thursday, 1 December 2005 10:36 (sixteen years ago) link

Women generally find Audrey Hepburn much more attractive than men do

Oh No, It's Dadaismus (and His Endless Stupid Jokes) (Dada), Thursday, 1 December 2005 10:43 (sixteen years ago) link

yeah, but audrey's just too demure and slight for me. i'm so not into people that i could knock over with a feather. i don't see the appeal.

it's very telling that so many people prefer audrey.

like a circle in a spiral, like a wheel within a wheel (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 1 December 2005 10:59 (sixteen years ago) link

whereas katharine would PWN any room she walked into. now that's a woman.

like a circle in a spiral, like a wheel within a wheel (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 1 December 2005 11:00 (sixteen years ago) link

I think Nathalie nailed it above with Very ethereal. Like a fragile porcelain angel. I prefer flesh and blood, meself.

Oh No, It's Dadaismus (and His Endless Stupid Jokes) (Dada), Thursday, 1 December 2005 11:01 (sixteen years ago) link

katharine reminds me of david bowie in many ways.

Very ethereal. Like a fragile porcelain angel

if i wanted one of those, i'd buy it off the home shopping network.

like a circle in a spiral, like a wheel within a wheel (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 1 December 2005 11:03 (sixteen years ago) link

Audrey - beautiful and cute in Roman Holiday... Elegant and wonderful as UNICEF ambassador.

Katherine - knockout ihttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:KH_40s-10.jpg and better actress. Admired for her confidence
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/36/Katharinehepburn1.jpg
..which got annoying with old age.

Still, Kate.

D.I.Y. U.N.K.L.E. (dave225.3), Thursday, 1 December 2005 12:51 (sixteen years ago) link

seven years pass...

Audrey wears me down if I see too much of her. Although I like her more in the abstract.

Cunga, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 17:29 (nine years ago) link

five months pass...

College-Aged Female Finds Unlikely Kindred Spirit In Audrey Hepburn

sleepingsignal, Thursday, 5 September 2013 06:00 (eight years ago) link

three years pass...

Catching up, catching up.

I've been listening to the Julie Ruin's Run Fast in the car for a couple of days. My favourite song is "Lookout"--found this video. Could do without the oversized lyrics blocking out all the images.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4id-3mw2hsI

clemenza, Sunday, 20 August 2017 19:21 (four years ago) link

three years pass...

in fact, it is absolutely terrible

akm, Wednesday, 24 March 2021 01:33 (one year ago) link

I liked it a lot.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 24 March 2021 01:34 (one year ago) link

Pretty sure I just watched my first-ever Audrey this week (The Children's Hour). Probably not the best intro to her allure but she was quite good in it.

Clem McFlannery's Clam Phlegm Cannery (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 24 March 2021 01:35 (one year ago) link

re Audrey - Sabrina, Funny Face, Green Mansions, Breakfast at Tiffany’s, The Children’s Hour, Charade - she was great in all of them

Roman Holiday, My Fair Lady, and Wait Until Dark are my favorite performances of hers

Dan S, Wednesday, 24 March 2021 02:13 (one year ago) link

19 years later, still so embarrassed that i got kate’s name wrong in the thread title

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 24 March 2021 02:44 (one year ago) link

Katharine has the more impressive career by far.

Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 24 March 2021 11:29 (one year ago) link

Nothing in common, these two.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 24 March 2021 15:37 (one year ago) link

I can think of one thing.

You Can't Have the Woogie Without a Little Boogie (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 24 March 2021 15:46 (one year ago) link

They were into threeways and pistachio ice cream

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 24 March 2021 15:47 (one year ago) link

Beat me to it.

You Can't Have the Woogie Without a Little Boogie (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 24 March 2021 15:56 (one year ago) link

Both Katherine and Audrey were slotted into very particular types of roles throughout their careers. How one relates to them is bound to be largely dependent on how one relates to their typical characters, with a small side order of how one relates to their biographies. I happen to relate better to Katherine than Audrey, just as a matter of my personal tastes.

Judge Roi Behan (Aimless), Wednesday, 24 March 2021 17:54 (one year ago) link

Just because I got to watch and hear her for 90 minutes, I thought the documentary was pretty good. The framing bit with the ballet dancers was quite unnecessary, and they skipped over a few crucial films for some reason: Charade, The Nun's Story, The Children's Hour. (Skipping Bloodline, which played when I was an usher in 1979, a little more understandable.) I didn't know anything about her war experiences, and if I've ever seen Mel Ferrer in a film, I'm drawing a blank. (Like many, I'm sure, I probably always thought she was married to José Ferrer.) I found that guy who swooped in near the end--"Merle Oberon's companion"--a little suspicious, but it seemed like a important relationship in her life. Her time with UNICEF was moving.

clemenza, Friday, 2 April 2021 14:57 (one year ago) link

Charade is fun. But so is To Have and Have Not.

I see no necessity to choose.

calzone layer (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 2 April 2021 16:03 (one year ago) link

Wait, fuck, did I really just write that? Not To Have and Have Not. African Queen.

calzone layer (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 2 April 2021 16:04 (one year ago) link

(Lauren Bacall vs Rosalind Russell would be just as difficult, tho - To Have and Have Not vs His Girl Friday)

calzone layer (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 2 April 2021 16:06 (one year ago) link

one year passes...

Would have been KH's birthday today, so I played this clip from Woman of the Year for a grade 8 class:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3H00_NJtbJY

First time--I should have been playing this clip for the last 20 years! All that eye-play when they first look at each other--amazing.

clemenza, Thursday, 12 May 2022 18:34 (one week ago) link


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