Hatred of Itunes

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my itunes are all fucked up. i want to completely delete the program, delete the itunes copied files folder, then reload and start it all again. will this work?

My main problem is i've downloaded a lot, then uploaded it onto itunes and then, stupidly, tried to reorganise the actual files into folders on my hard drive. hence, itunes can't find half my tunes. Does anyone know how to disable the irritating, invasive thing where everything that you play gets copied into a itunes folder on your hard drive...

sorry for boringness, but this is doing my nut.

Jay G (jaybob79), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 12:45 (sixteen years ago) link

prefs, advanced, keep iTunes music folder oranzied unchecked.

dummy

MATH BLASTER MYSTERY! (ex machina), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 13:06 (sixteen years ago) link

I've already unchecked 'keep organised' and 'copy to itunes music folder' which is, in fact, the one i'd need to uncheck if that were the problem.... sadly, it's just continuing to do it anyway.

twat.

Jay G (jaybob79), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 13:18 (sixteen years ago) link

throw your computer out the window, then draw a picture of a computer on a cardbord box, then put a small radio in the box, problem solved
naredowell

lukey (Lukey G), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 13:35 (sixteen years ago) link

I've no idea why it is carrying on doing it then.

I keep it checked and then periodically delete the original mp3s from my downloads folder. I like that iTunes keeps the them organised in one place automatically.

I also wonder whether it slows things down if it has to catalogue mp3s that are spread all over your hard drive . Does anyone know?

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 13:35 (sixteen years ago) link

i hate itunes, i dont need my life organized thanks!

david acid (gareth), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 13:37 (sixteen years ago) link

btw. your orginal problem would surely be solved by just selecting everything in the Libary and then saying 'no' when it asks if you want to delete the actual files.

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 13:37 (sixteen years ago) link

iTunes is the buggiest program Apple's produced for iLife.
We still haven't figured out what to do about Ally's CDRW drive burning at like 1.4x write speed. I checked the logs, it keeps attempting to write at 40x and then failing over to what appears to be the LOWEST SPEED POSSIBLE EVER. It's also having serious problems managing the metadata tags on mp3s from Soulseek and even (I think) tunes she ripped from CDs.

iTunes: DO IT OUR WAY OR FUCK U

TOMBOT, Tuesday, 7 September 2004 13:37 (sixteen years ago) link

Yup. It's an unintuitive, super-controlling program that only seems remotely stable because it abandons functions that go wrong.

AND THERE'S NO STOP BUTTON

Markelby (Mark C), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 14:06 (sixteen years ago) link

Dreaming....dreaming is real....dreaming...

Girolamo Savonarola, Tuesday, 7 September 2004 14:07 (sixteen years ago) link

AND THERE'S NO STOP BUTTON

Press the space bar and then hit the left arrow. Magic!

Girolamo Savonarola, Tuesday, 7 September 2004 14:08 (sixteen years ago) link

Renaming a file within iTunes stops playback for a second or two.

The first time a song loads into iTunes, iTunes "optimizes its volume" or something, which stops playback for a second or two. Wow, thanks, Apple. Everything's so seamless now.

iTunes can't do a 0-second gap between songs if you're burning a CD.

The fastest it can burn a disc on The Lovely Emma B's iBook is 4x speed, which was the norm in what, 1996?

What do people use instead? I'd love to ditch it.

You've Got to Pick Up Every Stitch (tracerhand), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 14:14 (sixteen years ago) link

On my computer, I have Soundcheck turned off, so it doesn't try to normalize the volume. I have no gap between songs selected and that works just fine when burning CDs. The burner in my PowerBook still works at maximum speed. I don't understand really, how come some people's machines are all fucked off with it and mine is doing fine? Also I have never had the renaming a file/stopping playback problem. How old is her iBook?

TOMBOT, Tuesday, 7 September 2004 14:18 (sixteen years ago) link

sometimes when you change the tag (when playing the same file) there's like a one-second pause, i can't imagine why anyone would get worked up about that (sorry tracer)

s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 14:21 (sixteen years ago) link

Tracer, I've been using Musicmatch, which is pretty good, if not the prettiest, and it's online database isn't the greatest with more obscure stuff. Rips and burns nicely though

Porkpie (porkpie), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 14:22 (sixteen years ago) link

musicmatch is such a pain in the ass!

s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 14:23 (sixteen years ago) link

's fine for me. what problem do you have with it? (bottom injuries excepted)

Porkpie (porkpie), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 14:24 (sixteen years ago) link

winamp to play
eac or cdex to rip
nero to burn

mookieproof (mookieproof), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 14:25 (sixteen years ago) link

i guess i just wasn't crazy about the interface (and the fact that you have to "save" playlists

s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 14:25 (sixteen years ago) link

Yeah, I haven't had any significant problems ever before, either. But that just as easily could be my luck. As far as the stopped playback things go, I don't really find them that annoying - yes, the computer needs to quickly integrate the song into its own organizational pattern or whatever. It only takes a second - I don't care. You can definitely do no-gap burns, I've done many myself.

I've never thought that iTunes was TEH GRATEST or anything like that, but I do think that overall, it handles everything together better than most other programs. It's certainly not flawless, though, but to get everything I need at a perfect level (for me) in a music/ripping/encoding/purchasing/burning package, it takes at least six different programs. Luckily, I don't usually need anything that precision, though, so iTunes handles most everything else just fine.

Girolamo Savonarola, Tuesday, 7 September 2004 14:26 (sixteen years ago) link

I must admit I don't like Musicmatch playlist functions, plus they save weird making it hard to put them on teh iriver. So I kick up winamp for that. Winamp is just too lame when it comes to ripping though, won't even rip to MP3 without forking out for the sooper-dooper one.

Porkpie (porkpie), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 14:28 (sixteen years ago) link

If you're blasting a just-downloaded Candi Staton track and the room has just stepped up onto the furniture en masse it is VERY annoying for the song to stop for a second into total silence and then kick back in.

her iBook is two years old. The file renaming thing happens on my machine though, which is a relatevely ancient 1st gen silver Powerbook with a paltry 284M RAM, so maybe it's the RAM that's doing it.

I've actually just tried burning a CD on her iBook with Toast, and it fucks up the gap between songs, too, so iTunes is off the hook for that.

I'll check out Musicmatch.

You've Got to Pick Up Every Stitch (tracerhand), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 14:29 (sixteen years ago) link

iTunes = quick portal to my iPod
Winamp = decoding mp3s
Audiograbber = encoding wavs
Nero = burning CDs

It's four programs, but two of them are free legally (as long as you stick to Winamp 2.9 or no later), the other two are cheap.

For winXPers, it's a way of life, but it works well.

iChoose iChoonz, Tuesday, 7 September 2004 14:30 (sixteen years ago) link

iTunes is the best program I have ever used in my life, one or two bugs aside. With the latest release you can even do nested smart playlists, allowing pretty much full Boolean control. I spend half my life on iTunes.

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 14:31 (sixteen years ago) link

best way of burning an audio cd is using Spark to master the CD and toast to burn it. The gap between tracks issue may be the optical drive giving out if both iTunes and Toast are fucking it up.

Ed (dali), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 14:31 (sixteen years ago) link

I'm using MM on the PC though, not sure if it does Macs.

T, which Candi have you been downloading?

Porkpie (porkpie), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 14:31 (sixteen years ago) link

If you're blasting a just-downloaded Candi Staton track and the room has just stepped up onto the furniture en masse it is VERY annoying for the song to stop for a second into total silence and then kick back in.

you shouldn't be futzing with your id tags during a party, you should be partying!

s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 14:31 (sixteen years ago) link

Is 4X burning really an implausible upper end for an iBook burner that's two years old? I'm just curious.

Girolamo Savonarola, Tuesday, 7 September 2004 14:33 (sixteen years ago) link

Oh also: if you want to put a playlist of songs onto another computer (in order to burn a CD), is there any way to do it and keep the playing order intact? I find myself opening a playlist, selecting all, dragging the songs in the playlist to a Finder folder, dragging that to the Lovely Emma B's share directory, going over to her computer, creating a new playlist, dragging the songs into it, and then trying to remember what order they songs ought to be in but I can't, so I go back over to my computer and look, and then go back to Emma's, and then there are a couple that aren't in the right place so I go back to mine, and then go back to Emma's.

s1ocki the party is often only in my head.

I think it was "Do Your Duty," Porkpie.

You've Got to Pick Up Every Stitch (tracerhand), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 14:33 (sixteen years ago) link

my futzing/partying argument still stands

s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 14:34 (sixteen years ago) link

a very good choice. If uyou haven't got the compilation that came out at the start of the year I suggest you do (it's on my soulseek stuff btw)

Porkpie (porkpie), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 14:36 (sixteen years ago) link

Mr Hand. Fancy The Social later tonight?

Ed (dali), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 14:37 (sixteen years ago) link

EVERYBODY ID3 TAG NOW!

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 14:43 (sixteen years ago) link

(sorry, that was supposed to be sung to the sound of 2Unlimited)

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 14:43 (sixteen years ago) link

Ed u r being texted

You've Got to Pick Up Every Stitch (tracerhand), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 14:44 (sixteen years ago) link

I used to be firmly in the Audiograbber camp but then I dscovered QCD and didn't look back.

Dan Perry '08 (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 16:06 (sixteen years ago) link

I'm sick of iTunes, I want to go back to Winamp, but I figure if I get an iPod I'll have to reinstall it anyway. :(

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 16:46 (sixteen years ago) link

why not just keep both on your computer?

s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 17:01 (sixteen years ago) link

I have the same problem The Illustrious Tracer Hand mentions above, that iTunes stops playing if I change tags or when it "optimizes the volume" (which as far as I can tell means "do nothing for a second"). I haven't tried to burn a CD recently but as far as I can tell it's fucked. It's ridiculous, I have no idea what to do about it. The renaming tags SEEMED to be working the other day but OTOH I didn't overly test it by clicking back on the songs.

Allyzay Science Explosion (allyzay), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 22:50 (sixteen years ago) link

The only bug I've come across (stopping playback of a tune for a second if you're changing the tags on it at the same time doesn't really seem a bug or big deal to me) is the same as yours, I think.

Just occasionally, a track (downloaded ones it seems - never ripped ones) will not let me change the tags on it. It looks like it's changed, but as soon as I play it again, it reverts to the old data. Looked elsewhere on net for an answer, but no one seems to have worked out why it sometimes does it. The only solution I've found: using (the free) MP3 Rage to retag these rogue tracks.

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 22:56 (sixteen years ago) link

I find musicmatch for useful for organizing my mp3s than itunes, it's a bit more hands-on so you can load up whole mislabeled albums and reshape them into scrumptiously correct mp3s in a matter of seconds.

The itunes version of this (aside from the slightly clunkier hands-on interface after you load it) is to take your entire mp3 folder and, based on what might be incorrect tags, just put them into the folders it deems best in an automatic process that you have no control over. Have a compilation folder with a bunch of different' artist's tracks? It'll create a folder for each individual song. That gets really tiring after you get more than a few gigs of mp3s downloaded or ripped.

Slim Pickens (Slim Pickens), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 23:10 (sixteen years ago) link

Yes that is the problem I am having, rogue MP3s refusing to change tags, ever. They look changed but when they play, they are not changed.

Allyzay Science Explosion (allyzay), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 23:11 (sixteen years ago) link

Well yeah, use MP3 Rage to fix them, if you're on a Mac. If you get it a lot it must be a pain. I've only had like four ever that have done that.

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 23:13 (sixteen years ago) link

could it be a permissions thing? like could they be read-only or something? (click on a pesky one in the finder, hit command-i, and see what it says under permissions)

s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 23:18 (sixteen years ago) link

The itunes version of this (aside from the slightly clunkier hands-on interface after you load it) is to take your entire mp3 folder and, based on what might be incorrect tags, just put them into the folders it deems best in an automatic process that you have no control over. Have a compilation folder with a bunch of different' artist's tracks? It'll create a folder for each individual song. That gets really tiring after you get more than a few gigs of mp3s downloaded or ripped.

What I still don't understand about all this is why it matters to you what folders the mp3s are in. I hardly ever even look at the file directories for mp3s. I just use the Library. If you retag the tracks correctly then it will put them in right artist folder. I'm not sure why you are having that problem with compilations - the V/A compilations I have all seem to go in a folder called 'Compilations' and then in subfolders named after the title of the compilation. It doesn't create a separate folder for each song at all. I don't know if this is caused by checking that 'part of a compilation' check box. As I say, I never really look at the folder structure when it comes to my mp3s.

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 23:22 (sixteen years ago) link

yeah me neith, it seems like a totally ok way for my mp3s to be arranged, so what do i care

s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 23:23 (sixteen years ago) link

I'm a bit of a hypocrite, because I hate the way iPhoto does this and just use the Finder and Photoshop Elements instead. But that's mainly cause I want to do things to photos in Photoshop. I'm not arsing around tweaking my mp3s in other applications all the time. I guess some people are (though it's pretty intuitive where locate an mp3 when you need to, and there's always 'Find' if you're struggling).

Anyway, if it's working properly then you should just be able to uncheck 'keep organised' and 'copy to itunes music folder' in Advanced Prefs, to stop it doing all the auto organising, should you wish. I don't know why this wasn't working for Jay. I wish one could do the same in iPhoto.

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 23:28 (sixteen years ago) link

I've been using iTunes for 6 months now without any problems.

AaronHz (AaronHz), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 23:43 (sixteen years ago) link

If you retag the tracks correctly then it will put them in right artist folder.

Well, do you mean manually? Because that seems to make itunes' first-time-run "we'll organize your files for you" function irrelevant. I care about what folders my mp3s are in because I use different programs for burning them than playing them...either musicmatch or nero, and usually browse my music folder and click 'n drag the files into those programs. Also, I've mostly used winamp to play mp3s so I queue them up from folders as well. I'm just used to dealing with folders so it's much more of a psychological thing.

Slim Pickens (Slim Pickens), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 23:51 (sixteen years ago) link

you're a folder fanatic! that's cool

s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 00:37 (sixteen years ago) link

(I will still try recovering the files in disk mode, but I need to clear 200gb on my 475gb laptop first, and get a new EHD to back up to, whee)

quelle sprocket damage (sic), Thursday, 20 June 2019 23:43 (one year ago) link

battery on my 160gb dies after 20 minutes :(

This was happening to me too. I replaced it with a Sony NW-A45 digital Walkman and have been extremely pleased.

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Friday, 21 June 2019 00:26 (one year ago) link

will still try recovering the files in disk mode

oh god even if this works I've lost all my playcounts and playlists that manage them

quelle sprocket damage (sic), Friday, 21 June 2019 00:54 (one year ago) link

Sony NW-A45 digital Walkman

maximum of 48gb?

quelle sprocket damage (sic), Friday, 21 June 2019 00:57 (one year ago) link

No. It takes a micro sd card and those come in up to 400GB now

valet doberman (Jon not Jon), Friday, 21 June 2019 01:40 (one year ago) link

Up to 48GB is just the built in memory

valet doberman (Jon not Jon), Friday, 21 June 2019 01:41 (one year ago) link

The NWZ-A17 one is my go to player now - it is NOT as good an interface as an iPod classic but great sound, great battery life and the mammoth size of modern micro sd cards makes up for it

valet doberman (Jon not Jon), Friday, 21 June 2019 01:43 (one year ago) link

Basically my classical library goes on the Walkman and everything else goes on the 160gb Classic

valet doberman (Jon not Jon), Friday, 21 June 2019 01:44 (one year ago) link

Which is rockboxed - I have not used iTunes to load music onto my iPod for years

valet doberman (Jon not Jon), Friday, 21 June 2019 01:44 (one year ago) link

ah, ta - specs said 16gb built in, and that it took SD card, which I was taking to mean a standard card

quelle sprocket damage (sic), Friday, 21 June 2019 02:38 (one year ago) link

if there was an mp3 player that could sync playlists and play counts to iTunes I'd be all in on it

frogbs, Friday, 21 June 2019 02:45 (one year ago) link

Huh, there’s software that will do that for Android phones, surprised there isn’t for the Sony.

but everybody calls me, (lukas), Friday, 21 June 2019 16:28 (one year ago) link

My recent phone purchase should cover me when my 160gb classic dies on me. I went with the 512gb galaxy s10, which will be my main mp3 player at some point. But that also means I'll probably have to find a new database soon.

Rod Steel (musicfanatic), Sunday, 30 June 2019 22:37 (one year ago) link

not iTunes, but this is the sort of scenario that bugs me the fuck out and the main reason why i don't trust a lot of these platforms for purchasing or even streaming media.

https://gizmodo.com/ebooks-purchased-from-microsoft-will-be-deleted-this-mo-1836005672?_ga=2.42903392.418273563.1561997751-2390524635.1521508273

blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Monday, 1 July 2019 16:21 (one year ago) link

don't trust a lot of these platforms

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quelle sprocket damage (sic), Monday, 1 July 2019 16:38 (one year ago) link

two months pass...

I had a bunch of tracks that were renamed to Grouping-like values – I assumed file corruption but there is a hidden metadata field since I think 2017, 'Work Name', which is meant to deal with classical music better. You can only get to it to edit it by clicking a little arrow next to 'song' under 'Details' when you get info on one track.

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/7846590
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/7852053

Brakhage, Saturday, 21 September 2019 03:22 (one year ago) link

This is a fix - in iTunes 12.5 Apple introduced support for “Work” (TIT1) tag which is used for classical music tagging, but it had already used this TIT1 field for its “Grouping” tag.

So from v12.5 onwards, iTunes writes the Grouping tag into a new GRP1 field, however that means that for mp3 files tagged in previous iTunes versions what was previously Grouping now appears as Work.

Fixing it is a simple one time operation, go to the Songs view, select the columns Work and Grouping, populate the Grouping tag, and (mass) clear the Work tag.

Siegbran, Tuesday, 24 September 2019 15:48 (one year ago) link

two weeks pass...

anyone have any luck correcting a problem where an ipod which has been manually synced in the past mounts with the 'sync music' preference unchecked, so that it can't be newly synced unless you first rewrite it with a new selection of music (even if that selection is identical to what's already on it)?

i use two ipods which mostly receive different contents from one computer/library, and it seems that this has something to do with one or both of the ipods occasionally becoming un-syncable. but i recently switched to catalina/music app and it seems that the problem has only become constant rather than occasional.

the problem seems like it should be quite common but i've never had any luck funding advice about it on the web.

j., Monday, 14 October 2019 01:28 (eleven months ago) link

i guess it thinks the music on the ipods is coming from another library, but i don't know why it thinks that

j., Tuesday, 15 October 2019 19:40 (eleven months ago) link

four weeks pass...

Weird thing today: suddenly a lot of my music files were being read as directories, not files, so they couldn't be 'found', or manipulated. I'm not sure if it's a Music issue or a Finder issue, it may be the latter, since looking at the NAS through Finder had the same problem - half-empty directories, or directories that were just files, etc. A reboot sorted it but it was a disturbing hour wrestling with it

Brakhage, Wednesday, 13 November 2019 17:08 (ten months ago) link

two months pass...

Okay, so two different files on my computer with similar names - iTunes thinks they're the same?

I do a lot of work with audio producers who send me different iterations and cuts via email. Often if I ask for an edit to be made and reopen it in iTunes, it plays the old version. This is super confusing and COMPLETELY RIDICULOUS. The only way I can fix it is by clearing everythign from my iTunes. Seriously, who invented this shit?

doorstep jetski (dog latin), Wednesday, 22 January 2020 11:18 (eight months ago) link

You could change the file extension for audio files to open with say, QuickTime or something

calstars, Wednesday, 22 January 2020 12:11 (eight months ago) link

I’m in iTunes a lot tweaking my library and it’s really a pain in Catalina to open a finder window and sync my phone from there instead of within the program

calstars, Wednesday, 22 January 2020 12:12 (eight months ago) link

You could change the file extension for audio files to open with say, QuickTime or something

― calstars, Wednesday, January 22, 2020 12:11 PM (nineteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Tried to do this so it opens in VLC but Outlook still defaults to iTunes and I've no idea how to change it.

doorstep jetski (dog latin), Wednesday, 22 January 2020 12:31 (eight months ago) link

Drag the file out of outlook before you open it

calstars, Wednesday, 22 January 2020 17:02 (eight months ago) link

calstars, if it's mounting inside the itunes library then you can get a context menu item by clicking on it that SOMETIMES will sync as directed

j., Wednesday, 22 January 2020 17:10 (eight months ago) link

xp. I tried that too but same thing. I sometimes wonder how Apple have gotten away with such a terrible system for so long. my 2012 windows laptop can tell the difference between two files no problem

doorstep jetski (dog latin), Wednesday, 22 January 2020 17:29 (eight months ago) link

two weeks pass...

I used to be able to drag files from my desktop to a playlist, thus instantly adding it to both the playlist and library. Now it shows up on the playlist for a second, then vanishes (though still adds to the library), so I have to search for the track I just added or go to Recently Added.

Likewise, I used to be able to do a search for a song in iTunes, then drag it from the drop down result or the main window on the right to the playlist. Now, clicking on the result just brings me to the album, with the song highlighted. It's only one extra click but still annoying when doing a 20 song playlist.

blatherskite, Monday, 10 February 2020 23:11 (seven months ago) link

On Windows? On the mac it still works the old way with me.

Siegbran, Monday, 10 February 2020 23:13 (seven months ago) link

Right-click the playlist name and select “View As...” —> Songs. Then in the actual playlist window, click on the column above the numbers. when you drag your song file into the playlist window you should then be able to insert it in between any two songs. Does that fix it?

Mr. Snrub, Tuesday, 11 February 2020 03:40 (seven months ago) link

I'm on a Mac, and the problem only started when iTunes changed to Music. Sadly, the above didn't fix it; the issue seems to be specific to new files, as I dragged a song from iTunes to the desktop, and then dropped that from the desktop to the playlist window: it worked. If I drag a just downloaded file from my Soulseek folder to the playlist window, though, it appears for a second until the "adding file" circle next to it completes, then disappears off the playlist. I suppose I'll dig around in the settings to see if something switched in the upgrade.

blatherskite, Wednesday, 12 February 2020 16:37 (seven months ago) link

If you can't fix- does the library still have the ability to sort by recently added? Because then at least you can remove the annoying search step of the process and just take the most recently added from the top and move it to the playlist.

Evan, Wednesday, 12 February 2020 17:16 (seven months ago) link

Curious on the feedback here as I have yet to be forced to upgrade to Music from iTunes myself so the good to know the quirks and workarounds upfront.

Evan, Friday, 14 February 2020 16:31 (seven months ago) link

Mod request: change thread title to “Hatred of Music”

Siegbran, Friday, 14 February 2020 17:31 (seven months ago) link

Accessorily the title of an excellent essay by Pascal Quignard:

https://yalebooks.yale.edu/book/9780300211382/hatred-music

romanesque architect (pomenitul), Friday, 14 February 2020 17:34 (seven months ago) link

one month passes...

Apologies as it's probably been asked and answered before, but what are some good windows replacements for this sordid, bloated piece of shit itunes? I took my time, I realise, but it's become wholle unusable for me. What's good?

Le Bateau Ivre, Saturday, 28 March 2020 12:34 (six months ago) link

*wholly

Le Bateau Ivre, Saturday, 28 March 2020 12:34 (six months ago) link

Considered it! But I'd like something a bit more robust (without all the negatives of itunes).

Le Bateau Ivre, Saturday, 28 March 2020 12:45 (six months ago) link

Foobar, Winamp, VLC all pretty lightweight

calstars, Saturday, 28 March 2020 13:37 (six months ago) link

Thx, am going to try Foobar, MediaMonkey and MusicBee and see which one comes on top.

Le Bateau Ivre, Saturday, 28 March 2020 14:20 (six months ago) link

I use MusicBee and have no complaints

groovypanda, Saturday, 28 March 2020 15:06 (six months ago) link

Same, so far!

Le Bateau Ivre, Saturday, 28 March 2020 15:24 (six months ago) link

Also using MusicBee and no complaints. I suppose I find it a bit ugly and the sheer scope of granularity is vertiginous rather than exciting but it's quick and light and easy to use out of the box.

Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Saturday, 28 March 2020 16:55 (six months ago) link

Just FYI to LBI, deviantart and other places have a bunch of foobar skins you can just plug right in (so you don’t have to make it look “good” from scratch)

brimstead, Saturday, 28 March 2020 18:37 (six months ago) link

Thank you! I'd prefer faffing about with skins etc as little as possible, the auto-skin of MusicBee does the trick (after some minor tweaks)

Le Bateau Ivre, Sunday, 29 March 2020 10:57 (six months ago) link

Updated my Mac for the first time in years and forgot that Itunes was going to be replaced by Music. I have a large digital library and I don't stream, so it's not really optimized for me. Took a while to figure out how to get the view back to my preference: songs listed, no images, sorting windows at the top and a proper search field. For about an hour I was ready to throw the computer in the front yard.

Cow_Art, Sunday, 29 March 2020 14:48 (six months ago) link

yeah and there's still some stuff that will just never let you default to songs, very annoying

j., Sunday, 29 March 2020 15:07 (six months ago) link

The search function is what was really freaking me out. The search field gives stupid ass results. Turns out you have to enable something called filter field or some crap. Very non-intuitive, but I guess they’re not really making this product for people like me.

Cow_Art, Sunday, 29 March 2020 15:19 (six months ago) link

two weeks pass...

I've used MediaMonkey for years for mp3 organization and playlist creation. It's extremely feature rich, and I can't think of a single "power user" functionality that it doesn't have. If all you want to do is play music, then Winamp!

Dan I., Tuesday, 14 April 2020 21:41 (five months ago) link


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