Hatred of Itunes

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my itunes are all fucked up. i want to completely delete the program, delete the itunes copied files folder, then reload and start it all again. will this work?

My main problem is i've downloaded a lot, then uploaded it onto itunes and then, stupidly, tried to reorganise the actual files into folders on my hard drive. hence, itunes can't find half my tunes. Does anyone know how to disable the irritating, invasive thing where everything that you play gets copied into a itunes folder on your hard drive...

sorry for boringness, but this is doing my nut.

Jay G (jaybob79), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 12:45 (seventeen years ago) link

prefs, advanced, keep iTunes music folder oranzied unchecked.

dummy

MATH BLASTER MYSTERY! (ex machina), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 13:06 (seventeen years ago) link

I've already unchecked 'keep organised' and 'copy to itunes music folder' which is, in fact, the one i'd need to uncheck if that were the problem.... sadly, it's just continuing to do it anyway.

twat.

Jay G (jaybob79), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 13:18 (seventeen years ago) link

throw your computer out the window, then draw a picture of a computer on a cardbord box, then put a small radio in the box, problem solved
naredowell

lukey (Lukey G), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 13:35 (seventeen years ago) link

I've no idea why it is carrying on doing it then.

I keep it checked and then periodically delete the original mp3s from my downloads folder. I like that iTunes keeps the them organised in one place automatically.

I also wonder whether it slows things down if it has to catalogue mp3s that are spread all over your hard drive . Does anyone know?

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 13:35 (seventeen years ago) link

i hate itunes, i dont need my life organized thanks!

david acid (gareth), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 13:37 (seventeen years ago) link

btw. your orginal problem would surely be solved by just selecting everything in the Libary and then saying 'no' when it asks if you want to delete the actual files.

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 13:37 (seventeen years ago) link

iTunes is the buggiest program Apple's produced for iLife.
We still haven't figured out what to do about Ally's CDRW drive burning at like 1.4x write speed. I checked the logs, it keeps attempting to write at 40x and then failing over to what appears to be the LOWEST SPEED POSSIBLE EVER. It's also having serious problems managing the metadata tags on mp3s from Soulseek and even (I think) tunes she ripped from CDs.

iTunes: DO IT OUR WAY OR FUCK U

TOMBOT, Tuesday, 7 September 2004 13:37 (seventeen years ago) link

Yup. It's an unintuitive, super-controlling program that only seems remotely stable because it abandons functions that go wrong.

AND THERE'S NO STOP BUTTON

Markelby (Mark C), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 14:06 (seventeen years ago) link

Dreaming....dreaming is real....dreaming...

Girolamo Savonarola, Tuesday, 7 September 2004 14:07 (seventeen years ago) link

AND THERE'S NO STOP BUTTON

Press the space bar and then hit the left arrow. Magic!

Girolamo Savonarola, Tuesday, 7 September 2004 14:08 (seventeen years ago) link

Renaming a file within iTunes stops playback for a second or two.

The first time a song loads into iTunes, iTunes "optimizes its volume" or something, which stops playback for a second or two. Wow, thanks, Apple. Everything's so seamless now.

iTunes can't do a 0-second gap between songs if you're burning a CD.

The fastest it can burn a disc on The Lovely Emma B's iBook is 4x speed, which was the norm in what, 1996?

What do people use instead? I'd love to ditch it.

You've Got to Pick Up Every Stitch (tracerhand), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 14:14 (seventeen years ago) link

On my computer, I have Soundcheck turned off, so it doesn't try to normalize the volume. I have no gap between songs selected and that works just fine when burning CDs. The burner in my PowerBook still works at maximum speed. I don't understand really, how come some people's machines are all fucked off with it and mine is doing fine? Also I have never had the renaming a file/stopping playback problem. How old is her iBook?

TOMBOT, Tuesday, 7 September 2004 14:18 (seventeen years ago) link

sometimes when you change the tag (when playing the same file) there's like a one-second pause, i can't imagine why anyone would get worked up about that (sorry tracer)

s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 14:21 (seventeen years ago) link

Tracer, I've been using Musicmatch, which is pretty good, if not the prettiest, and it's online database isn't the greatest with more obscure stuff. Rips and burns nicely though

Porkpie (porkpie), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 14:22 (seventeen years ago) link

musicmatch is such a pain in the ass!

s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 14:23 (seventeen years ago) link

's fine for me. what problem do you have with it? (bottom injuries excepted)

Porkpie (porkpie), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 14:24 (seventeen years ago) link

winamp to play
eac or cdex to rip
nero to burn

mookieproof (mookieproof), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 14:25 (seventeen years ago) link

i guess i just wasn't crazy about the interface (and the fact that you have to "save" playlists

s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 14:25 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, I haven't had any significant problems ever before, either. But that just as easily could be my luck. As far as the stopped playback things go, I don't really find them that annoying - yes, the computer needs to quickly integrate the song into its own organizational pattern or whatever. It only takes a second - I don't care. You can definitely do no-gap burns, I've done many myself.

I've never thought that iTunes was TEH GRATEST or anything like that, but I do think that overall, it handles everything together better than most other programs. It's certainly not flawless, though, but to get everything I need at a perfect level (for me) in a music/ripping/encoding/purchasing/burning package, it takes at least six different programs. Luckily, I don't usually need anything that precision, though, so iTunes handles most everything else just fine.

Girolamo Savonarola, Tuesday, 7 September 2004 14:26 (seventeen years ago) link

I must admit I don't like Musicmatch playlist functions, plus they save weird making it hard to put them on teh iriver. So I kick up winamp for that. Winamp is just too lame when it comes to ripping though, won't even rip to MP3 without forking out for the sooper-dooper one.

Porkpie (porkpie), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 14:28 (seventeen years ago) link

If you're blasting a just-downloaded Candi Staton track and the room has just stepped up onto the furniture en masse it is VERY annoying for the song to stop for a second into total silence and then kick back in.

her iBook is two years old. The file renaming thing happens on my machine though, which is a relatevely ancient 1st gen silver Powerbook with a paltry 284M RAM, so maybe it's the RAM that's doing it.

I've actually just tried burning a CD on her iBook with Toast, and it fucks up the gap between songs, too, so iTunes is off the hook for that.

I'll check out Musicmatch.

You've Got to Pick Up Every Stitch (tracerhand), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 14:29 (seventeen years ago) link

iTunes = quick portal to my iPod
Winamp = decoding mp3s
Audiograbber = encoding wavs
Nero = burning CDs

It's four programs, but two of them are free legally (as long as you stick to Winamp 2.9 or no later), the other two are cheap.

For winXPers, it's a way of life, but it works well.

iChoose iChoonz, Tuesday, 7 September 2004 14:30 (seventeen years ago) link

iTunes is the best program I have ever used in my life, one or two bugs aside. With the latest release you can even do nested smart playlists, allowing pretty much full Boolean control. I spend half my life on iTunes.

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 14:31 (seventeen years ago) link

best way of burning an audio cd is using Spark to master the CD and toast to burn it. The gap between tracks issue may be the optical drive giving out if both iTunes and Toast are fucking it up.

Ed (dali), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 14:31 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm using MM on the PC though, not sure if it does Macs.

T, which Candi have you been downloading?

Porkpie (porkpie), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 14:31 (seventeen years ago) link

If you're blasting a just-downloaded Candi Staton track and the room has just stepped up onto the furniture en masse it is VERY annoying for the song to stop for a second into total silence and then kick back in.

you shouldn't be futzing with your id tags during a party, you should be partying!

s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 14:31 (seventeen years ago) link

Is 4X burning really an implausible upper end for an iBook burner that's two years old? I'm just curious.

Girolamo Savonarola, Tuesday, 7 September 2004 14:33 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh also: if you want to put a playlist of songs onto another computer (in order to burn a CD), is there any way to do it and keep the playing order intact? I find myself opening a playlist, selecting all, dragging the songs in the playlist to a Finder folder, dragging that to the Lovely Emma B's share directory, going over to her computer, creating a new playlist, dragging the songs into it, and then trying to remember what order they songs ought to be in but I can't, so I go back over to my computer and look, and then go back to Emma's, and then there are a couple that aren't in the right place so I go back to mine, and then go back to Emma's.

s1ocki the party is often only in my head.

I think it was "Do Your Duty," Porkpie.

You've Got to Pick Up Every Stitch (tracerhand), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 14:33 (seventeen years ago) link

my futzing/partying argument still stands

s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 14:34 (seventeen years ago) link

a very good choice. If uyou haven't got the compilation that came out at the start of the year I suggest you do (it's on my soulseek stuff btw)

Porkpie (porkpie), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 14:36 (seventeen years ago) link

Mr Hand. Fancy The Social later tonight?

Ed (dali), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 14:37 (seventeen years ago) link

EVERYBODY ID3 TAG NOW!

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 14:43 (seventeen years ago) link

(sorry, that was supposed to be sung to the sound of 2Unlimited)

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 14:43 (seventeen years ago) link

Ed u r being texted

You've Got to Pick Up Every Stitch (tracerhand), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 14:44 (seventeen years ago) link

I used to be firmly in the Audiograbber camp but then I dscovered QCD and didn't look back.

Dan Perry '08 (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 16:06 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm sick of iTunes, I want to go back to Winamp, but I figure if I get an iPod I'll have to reinstall it anyway. :(

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 16:46 (seventeen years ago) link

why not just keep both on your computer?

s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 17:01 (seventeen years ago) link

I have the same problem The Illustrious Tracer Hand mentions above, that iTunes stops playing if I change tags or when it "optimizes the volume" (which as far as I can tell means "do nothing for a second"). I haven't tried to burn a CD recently but as far as I can tell it's fucked. It's ridiculous, I have no idea what to do about it. The renaming tags SEEMED to be working the other day but OTOH I didn't overly test it by clicking back on the songs.

Allyzay Science Explosion (allyzay), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 22:50 (seventeen years ago) link

The only bug I've come across (stopping playback of a tune for a second if you're changing the tags on it at the same time doesn't really seem a bug or big deal to me) is the same as yours, I think.

Just occasionally, a track (downloaded ones it seems - never ripped ones) will not let me change the tags on it. It looks like it's changed, but as soon as I play it again, it reverts to the old data. Looked elsewhere on net for an answer, but no one seems to have worked out why it sometimes does it. The only solution I've found: using (the free) MP3 Rage to retag these rogue tracks.

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 22:56 (seventeen years ago) link

I find musicmatch for useful for organizing my mp3s than itunes, it's a bit more hands-on so you can load up whole mislabeled albums and reshape them into scrumptiously correct mp3s in a matter of seconds.

The itunes version of this (aside from the slightly clunkier hands-on interface after you load it) is to take your entire mp3 folder and, based on what might be incorrect tags, just put them into the folders it deems best in an automatic process that you have no control over. Have a compilation folder with a bunch of different' artist's tracks? It'll create a folder for each individual song. That gets really tiring after you get more than a few gigs of mp3s downloaded or ripped.

Slim Pickens (Slim Pickens), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 23:10 (seventeen years ago) link

Yes that is the problem I am having, rogue MP3s refusing to change tags, ever. They look changed but when they play, they are not changed.

Allyzay Science Explosion (allyzay), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 23:11 (seventeen years ago) link

Well yeah, use MP3 Rage to fix them, if you're on a Mac. If you get it a lot it must be a pain. I've only had like four ever that have done that.

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 23:13 (seventeen years ago) link

could it be a permissions thing? like could they be read-only or something? (click on a pesky one in the finder, hit command-i, and see what it says under permissions)

s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 23:18 (seventeen years ago) link

The itunes version of this (aside from the slightly clunkier hands-on interface after you load it) is to take your entire mp3 folder and, based on what might be incorrect tags, just put them into the folders it deems best in an automatic process that you have no control over. Have a compilation folder with a bunch of different' artist's tracks? It'll create a folder for each individual song. That gets really tiring after you get more than a few gigs of mp3s downloaded or ripped.

What I still don't understand about all this is why it matters to you what folders the mp3s are in. I hardly ever even look at the file directories for mp3s. I just use the Library. If you retag the tracks correctly then it will put them in right artist folder. I'm not sure why you are having that problem with compilations - the V/A compilations I have all seem to go in a folder called 'Compilations' and then in subfolders named after the title of the compilation. It doesn't create a separate folder for each song at all. I don't know if this is caused by checking that 'part of a compilation' check box. As I say, I never really look at the folder structure when it comes to my mp3s.

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 23:22 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah me neith, it seems like a totally ok way for my mp3s to be arranged, so what do i care

s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 23:23 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm a bit of a hypocrite, because I hate the way iPhoto does this and just use the Finder and Photoshop Elements instead. But that's mainly cause I want to do things to photos in Photoshop. I'm not arsing around tweaking my mp3s in other applications all the time. I guess some people are (though it's pretty intuitive where locate an mp3 when you need to, and there's always 'Find' if you're struggling).

Anyway, if it's working properly then you should just be able to uncheck 'keep organised' and 'copy to itunes music folder' in Advanced Prefs, to stop it doing all the auto organising, should you wish. I don't know why this wasn't working for Jay. I wish one could do the same in iPhoto.

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 23:28 (seventeen years ago) link

I've been using iTunes for 6 months now without any problems.

AaronHz (AaronHz), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 23:43 (seventeen years ago) link

If you retag the tracks correctly then it will put them in right artist folder.

Well, do you mean manually? Because that seems to make itunes' first-time-run "we'll organize your files for you" function irrelevant. I care about what folders my mp3s are in because I use different programs for burning them than playing them...either musicmatch or nero, and usually browse my music folder and click 'n drag the files into those programs. Also, I've mostly used winamp to play mp3s so I queue them up from folders as well. I'm just used to dealing with folders so it's much more of a psychological thing.

Slim Pickens (Slim Pickens), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 23:51 (seventeen years ago) link

you're a folder fanatic! that's cool

s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 00:37 (seventeen years ago) link

another thought, iTunes / Music will not play FLAC files, you need to transcode to ALAC using something like XLD.

assert (MatthewK), Friday, 30 October 2020 03:16 (one year ago) link

if you miss winamp why not just use winamp?

(VLC seems likely better for your purposes, but if you're more comfortable with the llama's ass...)

edited for dog profanity (sic), Friday, 30 October 2020 03:18 (one year ago) link

Or Vox, like stet has already mentioned. I think I needed to add a plugin to get it to play flac or ogg files but since then it's been 0 trouble.

koogs, Friday, 30 October 2020 07:44 (one year ago) link

why are play counts only recorded when I listen on my mac? I listen on my stupid phone all the time but iTunes doesn't record the plays. sigh

― calstars


It does update play counts, every time you sync the phone with iTunes/Music.

Siegbran, Friday, 30 October 2020 09:08 (one year ago) link

Nope

calstars, Friday, 30 October 2020 12:09 (one year ago) link

one month passes...

In 'song view' is there a way to always view small artwork on the left hand side? This used to be available but now I can't find the option

calstars, Monday, 28 December 2020 21:09 (one year ago) link

Ctrl+J and show artwork?

thanks, but there's no check box for artwork (I'm on Mac Catalina if that matters)

calstars, Monday, 28 December 2020 22:12 (one year ago) link

seems apple has removed this option in catalina but reinstated it in bug sir *sigh

calstars, Monday, 28 December 2020 22:22 (one year ago) link

bug sir
lmao

assert (MatthewK), Tuesday, 29 December 2020 01:17 (one year ago) link

four weeks pass...

I'm really stuck with my new Mac.

I'm really more of a Windows user and have never used iTunes beyond just playing the odd thing. I find it really annoying to use, but maybe I am not using it properly?

In Windows Explorer, I used to be able to organise columns by ID3 tags, for example bitrate etc. Looks like Finder (for reasons beyond my comprehension) doesn't let you do this (thanks Apple). I'm told the solution is to use iTunes/Music but I'm scared it will start rooting through my HD and reorganising everything.

I just found a random folder full of duplicate files which I'd played in iTunes taking up space on my internal HD (thanks again Apple). If I hadn't discovered this folder, my internal drive would have filled up very quickly. I unticked the option that makes it do this, but it filled me with rage. Why would anyone in their right mind want this to happen?

For context, I have a two-decade old music library, 2TB big, on an external HD which I have curated in folders, sorted in alphabetical order, and then artist, and then album. That's how I find my music. I also use Serato, so music from around the HD is in various crates. Serato is very picky about indexing. If you even change the capitalisation on a track filename, Serato won't see it.

So I'm not really sure how I'm meant to use iTunes/Music to continue to curate my music. How do normal people with large libraries do it?

I Am The Lionel Richies (dog latin), Thursday, 28 January 2021 18:01 (one year ago) link

i’d say forget itunes and use something like vlc.

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 28 January 2021 18:02 (one year ago) link

https://iina.io

Canon in Deez (silby), Thursday, 28 January 2021 18:04 (one year ago) link

the option to copy the files when you add them to itunes is what forces the organization of the files. You don't need to do that if you prefer to keep things organized yourself.

I've actually stopped using Music app (what was itunes) for playing files for the most part, I'm just using it for streaming. If you have a large collection of mp3s, particularly that large, it's worth just using something else. I use plex, personally.

akm, Thursday, 28 January 2021 18:04 (one year ago) link

If you're a folder person simply don't fuck w iTunes

Canon in Deez (silby), Thursday, 28 January 2021 18:04 (one year ago) link

then how do i see information like bitrate, album, artist, length etc of my files?

I Am The Lionel Richies (dog latin), Thursday, 28 January 2021 18:16 (one year ago) link

it just confounds me that something i've always taken for gratned in Windows is literally impossible on a Mac. When I speak to Mac users, they don't seem to understand what the issue is, and just keep telling me to use iTunes/Music. But I assume they don't really use music in the same way I do?

I Am The Lionel Richies (dog latin), Thursday, 28 January 2021 18:18 (one year ago) link

correct

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 28 January 2021 18:19 (one year ago) link

So, short of going around to every Apple Music exec's house and threatening to stab their faces off until they improve basic functionality of their computers (which will probably be quicker), I've tentatively tried uploading part of my HD to the library. I'm hoping and praying it's not trying to copy all these files to the computer in the process. Annoyingly, Music has started playing music while it does this but the dialogue window won't let me hit Stop. Thanks Apple.

I Am The Lionel Richies (dog latin), Thursday, 28 January 2021 18:41 (one year ago) link

Wait, but this will only organise music on my HD... What about music in my downloads folder which I will later want to copy to my HD and then delete? I still won't be able to see track info in there unless I add it all to the library again? GAAHHHHHH!! FFS APPLE

I Am The Lionel Richies (dog latin), Thursday, 28 January 2021 18:46 (one year ago) link

Basically if you use iTunes, iTunes is your library. You can have music anywhere on your computer, neatly organized folders and subfolders or a complete mess (as I do), it doesn't matter, you import it into iTunes, you access it from iTunes, make playlists there and play everything from there. I have my issues with iTunes but I don't see anything bad with the way it's supposed to work. As both a Mac and Windows user I prefer the iTunes way by a long shot.

Dinsdale, Thursday, 28 January 2021 20:24 (one year ago) link

i get it. the problem is it would take me months to re-tag everything so it's in some working order. the idea of not having my music in folders gives me anxiety - what about duplicates and mis-tags? it would be fine if i were starting from scratch but there's almost 20 years of music on here

I Am The Lionel Richies (dog latin), Thursday, 28 January 2021 23:29 (one year ago) link

Just make sure the "organize my iTunes library" option is unchecked and it won't touch anything.

Millsner, Friday, 29 January 2021 12:25 (one year ago) link

I mean yeah iTunes is annoying sometimes but it does what it does quite well. No need for irrational fear of a music player.

Millsner, Friday, 29 January 2021 12:26 (one year ago) link

https://iina.io

― Canon in Deez (silby)

Just to say, thank you so much for this - just downloaded and it's exactly what I was looking for (I'm a "big hard drive with folders and lots of FLACs" guy, so iTunes/Music.app requires way too much cultivation). All the superficial niceties of using a Mac, but simple drag-drop-play operation.

bamboohouses, Friday, 29 January 2021 12:58 (one year ago) link

ah missed this - will check it out!

I Am The Lionel Richies (dog latin), Friday, 29 January 2021 13:10 (one year ago) link

All that and it embeds youtube-dl too

Canon in Deez (silby), Friday, 29 January 2021 16:29 (one year ago) link

the idea of not having my music in folders gives me anxiety

I'm probably misunderstanding the way you use folders, but iTunes/Apple Music doesn't do away with them. If you have it set to keep your library organized, it creates a Music folder, creates artists folders within there, and album folders within the artist folders. If you don't have it set to organize your library, everything stays in the folders you have them in already (admittedly that would make me twitchy; I'd always be worried that I had things sitting in folders that I'd forgotten to import, or that I'd inadvertently move something and break the iTunes index).

I guess it depends on what you're used to, but my library is about 40,000 tracks and probably around 15 years old and I've never really had a problem with it. There are the occasional annoying quirks (the one that's enraging me now is having to toggle "Show filter field" every time I open the app -- why would I ever want that field hidden??) but for the most part it works fine for me. I like that it copies files to its own folder system and keeps them organized -- talk about anxiety, I can't imagine having to maintain that structure myself (if it's not something I've ripped from CD directly, I delete the original files as soon as the import is done so no duplicates, and I tag everything/correct cover art issues/etc immediately on import). And I definitely prefer seeing things organized like a library. Looking at my music as a list of files in the Finder (or Windows Explorer) feels too abstract; I don't want to look at songs the same way I look at other data. I've never owned a PC though so the whole idea of thinking of music files in that way is just totally foreign to me. I don't think it's so much an issue of the Mac people you've been talking to not using music the same way you do, it's that they (we?) are just more familiar with a completely different way of storing/organizing/viewing/playing the files.

I suppose it's different when you're switching to a whole new system with a huge existing library though. I didn't have a digital library when I started ripping CDs and importing downloads way back when, so it was easy enough to keep everything organized and tagged from day 1 and it's the only system I've ever known. Digging through folders to find the music I want to play seems like a really weird system to me.

early rejecter, Friday, 29 January 2021 19:39 (one year ago) link

I use iTunes for one task only, and that is to auto-organize my new music files on my PC

Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Friday, 29 January 2021 19:45 (one year ago) link

Yeah, like with photos, as soon as your collection grows beyond a certain size, basic folder organising doesn’t cut it anymore. I’m fairly happy with Music (the iTunes successor on macOS) because it’s still pretty fast even with 200,000+ songs and it’s quite powerful in terms of scripting, all the ways to slice and dice the library views and the smart playlisting.

My biggest gripe is that Apple’s music ecosystem still can’t handle multiple artists per song or multiple genres per song - there’s a couple of players/library managers that do support this, but they all have various other downsides.

Siegbran, Monday, 1 February 2021 23:43 (one year ago) link

Oh, and it also appears that my library size is now too big for the Genius playlists feature - it times out every time it tries to upload the Genius analysis results to the Apple servers. I’ve understood that this starts happening somewhere beyond 50-100k songs.

Siegbran, Monday, 1 February 2021 23:47 (one year ago) link

when I speak to Mac users, they don't seem to understand what the issue is, and just keep telling me to use iTunes/Music.

The universal talking-to-Apple-fans experience! Just wait until you find a bug and they tell you all the ways that it's All Your Fault, Actually. Avoid discussions.apple.com at all costs and go straight to apple.stackexchange.com when you have a problem.

Dan I., Thursday, 4 February 2021 01:48 (one year ago) link

This is good advice, speaking as a Mac user and broad fan. The 'advice' at discussions.apple.com is comically bad and usually consists of completely ignoring what the original poster asks.

Alba, Thursday, 4 February 2021 02:24 (one year ago) link

Look, it’s simple: there is no problem that cannot be solved by resetting the NVRAM and SMC. And if that doesn’t work, go buy a new Mac. Obviously.

Dan I., Thursday, 4 February 2021 03:17 (one year ago) link

Desktop Windows iTunes:

In Artists view (and Composers and Compilations) I am shown the complete tracklisting of every album. Is there any way to change it to a grid of album covers, as in Albums or Recently Added? I can't find a way and it's annoying.

Hans Holbein (Chinchilla Volapük), Thursday, 4 February 2021 08:18 (one year ago) link

I think the best you can do is view Albums and order by artists. Which sucks of course.

assert (MatthewK), Thursday, 4 February 2021 08:48 (one year ago) link

Ah this is the doglatin thread, I’d forgotten. dl, you might consider Plex as a media server. it keeps everything organised the way you have it, and you can use Plexamp on your phone to stream from your computer if you’re out and about. it doesn’t have as powerful smart playlist features as Apple Music and i’m still not sure what the solution is for wanting to have columns in the Finder for bit rate and what have you. but you might want to check it out.

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 4 February 2021 09:13 (one year ago) link

So this week I went to backup my iTunes files to an external HD, as I do periodically with never a problem, the only difference this time being a new HD. This time however something went terribly terribly wrong. Result: no files show up on the HD, and in iTunes about 15% of all of my songs will not play bc the files cannot be located. "The original file could not be found" is exactly what it says. I'm mystified as to where these files could have gone.

A tech guy looked at this for about an hour and could not figure it out. I told him I happen to have every file in my iPod Classic as well, which led to downloading an app that can transfer iPod files back to iTunes. This *seemed* to be working but after it was done I opened up iTunes and found the problem the same as before. Again no idea of where these files went when they were supposedly transferring.

So now I'm desperately clinging to my iPod Classic hoping it lives as long as possible, bc when it dies there goes 15% of my collection.

Josefa, Thursday, 4 February 2021 23:42 (one year ago) link

that's terrible. there does exist software I think to get the music off of your phone and onto your computer though—or at least there used to

John Wesley Glasscock (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 5 February 2021 00:03 (one year ago) link

I have most of these files on my phone too, but my phone is confusing me at the moment too, because there songs show up (and play) from my playlists but the same songs don't appear in the main list of songs, or in the list of artists. Admittedly I very rarely play music thru my phone so maybe I'm overlooking something obvious.

Josefa, Friday, 5 February 2021 00:16 (one year ago) link

Have you tried using that app to transfer the iPod files to a fresh iTunes library rather than the old ones that sounds like it’s corrupt?

Alba, Friday, 5 February 2021 01:10 (one year ago) link

Good question, I think that was an idea that came up but it seemed so simple just to transfer back to the original iTunes. The app reads what's already in your iTunes so that it only transfers back the files that aren't already there, and the total number of files the app said were missing was roughly the number I expected, so I thought OK the app is smart. But as you suggest, something seems wrong with the iTunes library itself, so making a new library could be an option.

Josefa, Friday, 5 February 2021 01:25 (one year ago) link

two months pass...

just moved to Music from iTunes

"Recently Played" is worse now. click an album and:

- where iTunes had a double-column list of songs, we're now at single-column, track name and track length are basically on separate continents.

- for SOME REASON, the keyboard focus is on the song rating when you get into this view. (see the little outline box around the star rating.) so hitting space to play/pause does nothing until you ... click something outside the song rating? NOPE. you gotta hit tab twice.

lukas, Tuesday, 6 April 2021 18:09 (one year ago) link

holy shit do i hate Music dot app mostly for not letting me change how things appear on the screen

joygoat, Tuesday, 6 April 2021 18:14 (one year ago) link

" "The original file could not be found" is exactly what it says. " I don't know if your problem ever got solved, but I've def had weird situations with songs that I uploaded to iCloud that weren't matched with something in their catalog; and then, months later, for whatever reason, i can no longer play them. "no longer available'. Where the fuck did it go? Not sure if it's an icloud storage space issue where it purges files after a certain amount of time (I have a terrible feeling it did this with photos too, but I'm frankly too scared to actually investigate).

akm, Tuesday, 6 April 2021 18:42 (one year ago) link

eight months pass...

I have one artist that shows up twice in the Artists list. There is an extremely annoying-looking fix that involves adding an X to the end of every field that should be the same, then removing it ... it just seems there should be a script that does this automatically.

lukas, Tuesday, 4 January 2022 17:55 (five months ago) link

removing and adding files back usually fixes bugs like that for me.

calstars, Tuesday, 4 January 2022 18:15 (five months ago) link

Select everything by that artist (from both lists), right click, "Get Info", delete and retype the artist name in the proper field.

Or look at metadata for both lists... maybe one of the artist fields has a space at the end of it. I've had that issue.

Hans Holbein (Chinchilla Volapük), Tuesday, 4 January 2022 18:56 (five months ago) link

Thanks both. The X thing was actually quite easy, just had to select all the tracks, changed the artist name to AutechreX, and then back to Autechre. Merged.

lukas, Thursday, 6 January 2022 01:03 (five months ago) link

five months pass...

When you open the Get Info window, it grays out all the icons in the main window, so if you're wondering why you're not hearing audio and glance over to the AirPlay icon, iTunes might just be lying to you.

death generator (lukas), Tuesday, 21 June 2022 19:31 (one week ago) link


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