Can Someone Who is Over 40 Please Explain the Meaning of Life Please?

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No really. How are you handling the second half of life? Are you nihilistic and feel the whole thing pointless, or are you bright eyed and ready for the upcoming years?

I suspect that optimism vs. pessimism might have to do with income level, at the bottom of it. Maybe not. What do you think?

Orbit (Orbit), Sunday, 5 September 2004 02:30 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm feeling cynical, bleak, and like I'm trapped in a cross between a Woody Allen and David Lynch film. And you?

Orbit (Orbit), Sunday, 5 September 2004 02:32 (nineteen years ago) link

as I enter the twilight of my life I feel I have learned many, many, varied things...

Menelaus Darcy (Menelaus Darcy), Sunday, 5 September 2004 02:49 (nineteen years ago) link

Twilight?

Orbit (Orbit), Sunday, 5 September 2004 02:50 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm joking. ageist of me I know. I'm used to my parents pulling rank because they are over 40 and they have soooo much more life experience than I do (though it is merely that they privelege their experience above mine). True that I can't say much about being over 40 though
I am not really sure there is much meaning to it anyway, perhaps just a selected, arbitrary purpose.

All you have to do is have fun and then stage a death bed conversion.

Menelaus Darcy (Menelaus Darcy), Sunday, 5 September 2004 02:56 (nineteen years ago) link

Is the fact that I find this thread title incredibly poignant conformist? I'm 20 and have been drinking tonight, fwiw

Cheek0 (Cheek0), Sunday, 5 September 2004 04:58 (nineteen years ago) link

Live in the moment, grab all the happiness/pleasure you can, with no guilt, do what you can, and don't worry too much about what you can't, or don't want to do.

When I was 16 I couldn't imagine being in my 40s, but now that I'm here I don't feel as different as I assumed I would (the 16 year old me is still kicking and squirming in me).

Fuck youth, be here now.

nickn (nickn), Sunday, 5 September 2004 05:06 (nineteen years ago) link

Also, there is no meaning, and the sooner people realize that the happier they'll be.

nickn (nickn), Sunday, 5 September 2004 05:07 (nineteen years ago) link

its a challenge. look forward to it. grasp it.

thats what they tell me and i'm finding it hard to agree.

gaz (gaz), Sunday, 5 September 2004 05:11 (nineteen years ago) link

Side question (hopefully not considered a derailment) : how did turning 30 compare to turning 40?
I'm turning 30 in a couple of weeks, so it's about time I started considering these questions of aging and mortality :)
30 sounds sooooooooooo much older than 29, even though obviously I won't feel any different. Is the 39->40 threshold any different?

Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Sunday, 5 September 2004 05:20 (nineteen years ago) link

30 wasn't a bother.
40 sucks.

Orbit (Orbit), Sunday, 5 September 2004 05:21 (nineteen years ago) link

Yeah, I'm with Orbit, 30 is still young, but 40 isn't so much.

nickn (nickn), Sunday, 5 September 2004 05:24 (nineteen years ago) link

40.
I am thinking about mortality, and the fact that I can date senior citizens and have them be within reasonable age range of me. Both thoughts are not cheerful. I don't want to be this negative, and I want' to take nick's advice. I'm just finding it very difficult.

Orbit (Orbit), Sunday, 5 September 2004 05:25 (nineteen years ago) link

I've always found the mid-decade birthdays more meaningful (and depressing) as markers - 25, 35, and 45. It's the downward slope of the decade. Anyone who feels old at 20 deserves an ass-whuppin'.

nickn (nickn), Sunday, 5 September 2004 05:29 (nineteen years ago) link

30 i left town, fucked off around the world for 5 years. 40 i had no such escape - i had kids, a house, a job i couldn't afford to leave cos i would have been marked for life as a piker.

gaz (gaz), Sunday, 5 September 2004 05:38 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm 41. It's all in what you do with it.

Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Sunday, 5 September 2004 06:44 (nineteen years ago) link

40 is the new 30, people.

Gear! (Gear!), Sunday, 5 September 2004 06:49 (nineteen years ago) link

Im 40, no answers here yet and I spent countless hours pondering the question, til lately.
Now I just think " ah fuck it "

relax, there is no meaning other than what you create for yourself, in whatever way suits.

donna (donna), Sunday, 5 September 2004 08:40 (nineteen years ago) link

for me, turning 30 was more difficult than turning 40. "where the hell am I going" VS "well here I am."
now that Im closer to 50 than 40, the meaning of life remains elusive. carpe diem/seize the day still works for me. similarly, "it's all in what you do with it" and "there is no meaning other than what you create for yourself" resonate for me.
mid-life crises are usually touched off by the death of a parentand the creeping realization of mortality. that's really the hard part of middle age.

lovebug starski (lovebug starski), Sunday, 5 September 2004 13:31 (nineteen years ago) link

Well, we are all likely to live a lot longer, so maybe 40 is the new 30. Barry, turning 30 scared the shit out of me, but it actually doesn't matter. Nothing changes, except you gradually become wiser and more laid back. Also, out of your twenties, you're not expected to do all the crazy things that them young whippersnappers get up to.

What DOES still depress me is articles in Broadcast magazine about successful twenty-somethings. I RESENT THEM SO MUCH

Markelby (Mark C), Monday, 6 September 2004 12:12 (nineteen years ago) link

37 here

I'm just now starting to look in the mirror and feel old. I used to always swear I wouldn't be one of those people who worried about aging. Don't think about it too much, but I have a feeling that now is the time to do the things that still require physical ability, later might be too late. It's a cliche and all, but I do feel a lot wiser. I didn't care about turning 30 (28 was the one that got me) but I think I'll probably be depressed when 40 hits.

Maria D. (Maria D.), Monday, 6 September 2004 12:30 (nineteen years ago) link

I got kind of down
when I hit the big 3 8
earlier this year

then I realized
that I had no time for that
little luxury

got some therapy
lost some weight, got a new job
40? BRING IT ON

Begs2Differ (Begs2Differ), Monday, 6 September 2004 13:09 (nineteen years ago) link

oh my freakin gawd
that last post sounded just like
T.Heads' "Found a Job"

Begs2Differ (Begs2Differ), Monday, 6 September 2004 13:10 (nineteen years ago) link

i was surprised at the weekend when i found out that kirstie from location x3 on the telly is 31. i had her down as older than myself. it's that domineering air.

koogs (koogs), Monday, 6 September 2004 13:17 (nineteen years ago) link

The secret of Eternal Life? ...keep breathing....

pepektheassassin (pepektheassassin), Saturday, 11 September 2004 20:27 (nineteen years ago) link

im 25 and pretty nihilistic so let's hope 40 is better.

ryan (ryan), Saturday, 11 September 2004 21:20 (nineteen years ago) link

The news is all good ryan. At some point, as you get older, you will abandon nihilism as a hopelessly optimistic dream of youth.

the music mole (colin s barrow), Saturday, 11 September 2004 21:29 (nineteen years ago) link

Koogs OTM. Finding out I'm older than people who seem much more assured and grown-up than me reminds me that hitting my thirties hasn't made that much difference (Kirstie Allsop being one of them). I can't see me changing as I get to my forties.

ailsa (ailsa), Saturday, 11 September 2004 21:50 (nineteen years ago) link

Wow, there are a whole bunch of people in this thread who are older than I am (soon to be 37). It would be nice to have a younger body, but other than that, things get so much better. The worst thing is looking around you and seeing how immature some people in their forties can be.

Kerry (dymaxia), Saturday, 11 September 2004 22:16 (nineteen years ago) link

I am almost at the point where I can distinguish between luxuries and necessities. For me, a lifelong lesson. I'll be 51 in November.

jim wentworth (wench), Sunday, 12 September 2004 01:42 (nineteen years ago) link

nihilism is the new 'black' for bored kids with no real worries.

be happy.

and everyone knows the meaning of life is 42. but who can remember the question?

darraghmac, Sunday, 12 September 2004 04:10 (nineteen years ago) link

i nearly thought this was a thread 'bout the monty python movie
...any other over-40 here who thought the same?

t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Sunday, 12 September 2004 11:28 (nineteen years ago) link

darraghmac brutally otm

42 really is where it's at, at least for the next month

dan (dan), Sunday, 12 September 2004 12:47 (nineteen years ago) link

i've always suspected that it becomes a bit more about cooking

You've Got to Pick Up Every Stitch (tracerhand), Sunday, 12 September 2004 18:30 (nineteen years ago) link

five years pass...

Love and only love will endure.

Rage, Resentment, Spleen (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 22 December 2009 16:51 (fourteen years ago) link

What about great art?

Zelda Zonk, Tuesday, 22 December 2009 16:58 (fourteen years ago) link

will be dust soon enough.

Rage, Resentment, Spleen (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 22 December 2009 17:01 (fourteen years ago) link

ars longa vita brevis

that sex version of "blue thunder." (Mr. Que), Tuesday, 22 December 2009 17:03 (fourteen years ago) link

that's great. good to see someone take the way they felt at 16 seriously, reaffirm it even.

ogmor, Tuesday, 22 December 2009 17:38 (fourteen years ago) link

i'm not 40 yet - just!!!!! - and although my 16 yr old self never wrote my adult self any letters, i certainly wrote certain songs as messages to my future self

should dig them out on my 40th birthday and see if they still have any resonance (apart from "lay off that effing delay pedal you cunt")

Karen Tregaskin, Tuesday, 22 December 2009 17:44 (fourteen years ago) link

Asking what is the meaning of life is like asking what is the meaning of rocks, or the meaning of ice cream. Those questions make no sense and answering them only generates nonsense.

Instead, ask how should I live. That question generates answers that do have a meaning. But don't expect there to be just one right answer, just as there is not one answer to a koan.

There are some wrong answers, though. The wrong answers feed our delusions, such as the delusion that we can control anything beyond ourselves, and even our self control is tenuous and requires constant attention. Another delusion is that we can avoid suffering by any means other than the arduous path of wholeheartedly removing the prefix mis- from whatever is our fortune.

So, how should we live? Here's a start: be kind, be grateful, and cultivate patience.

(I'm 55, btw. Oh and I'm white.)

Aimless, Tuesday, 22 December 2009 17:49 (fourteen years ago) link

xp Oh, you're Kate.

Francis Ford Copacabana (jaymc), Tuesday, 22 December 2009 17:50 (fourteen years ago) link

who is kate?

Karen Tregaskin, Tuesday, 22 December 2009 18:00 (fourteen years ago) link

http://17.media.tumblr.com/RaAhBBk4TosukqlmKBk3MuFeo1_400.gif

mdskltr (blueski), Tuesday, 22 December 2009 18:06 (fourteen years ago) link

^
meaning of life imo

mdskltr (blueski), Tuesday, 22 December 2009 18:07 (fourteen years ago) link

i (who am not kate by no means unnecessary) hope to be 50 next spring. yo, am i white and medieval or wot.

t**t, Tuesday, 22 December 2009 18:16 (fourteen years ago) link

oh ..as per "the meaning", i dunno wot it means.

t**t, Tuesday, 22 December 2009 18:17 (fourteen years ago) link

Sorry Karen, if you're not Kate, I think you'd get on with her: she's also a nearly 40-year-old woman in the UK who makes music and likes Aphex Twin, School of Seven Bells, Lindstrom, the Delays, and history.

Francis Ford Copacabana (jaymc), Tuesday, 22 December 2009 18:27 (fourteen years ago) link

hey, is she single?

kidding!

quite flattered that i've been able to pass for an actual woman on an internet messageboard despite posting quite incongruously about the gender of my self and my screen name (also implicitly stated in the choice of screen name, if you anything about the artist whose name i've chosen) - i've never pulled that off before

Karen Tregaskin, Tuesday, 22 December 2009 18:34 (fourteen years ago) link

off-topic but would anyone like a banger in the mouth?

mdskltr (blueski), Tuesday, 22 December 2009 19:00 (fourteen years ago) link

we call them sausages

that sex version of "blue thunder." (Mr. Que), Tuesday, 22 December 2009 19:02 (fourteen years ago) link

sausages are in fact the meaning of life

everyone stop (dan m), Tuesday, 22 December 2009 19:06 (fourteen years ago) link

I mean just look at this dude

http://www.danielefoods.com/images/product/sopressata_large.jpg

everyone stop (dan m), Tuesday, 22 December 2009 19:07 (fourteen years ago) link

Sausages by Jewel

While leaving the airport,
a gypsy woman stole my luggage.
She wore a rice paper mask over her eyes.
A mole showed neatly on her chin, hairless.
She laughed while sausages
fell from her pockets in heavy shivers.
I hope she misses them sorely.

that sex version of "blue thunder." (Mr. Que), Tuesday, 22 December 2009 19:07 (fourteen years ago) link

sausages are in fact the meaning of life

But what is the meaning of sausage?

We should have called Suzie and Bobby (NickB), Tuesday, 22 December 2009 19:09 (fourteen years ago) link

life

that sex version of "blue thunder." (Mr. Que), Tuesday, 22 December 2009 19:09 (fourteen years ago) link

Love and only love will endure.

― Rage, Resentment, Spleen (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, December 22, 2009 8:51 AM (2 hours ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ww-88rwt4ms

pantalols (omar little), Tuesday, 22 December 2009 19:09 (fourteen years ago) link

"You poor dear, dear thing. Look at you weltering in your misery. The extraordinary truth is that you want to stay there. Unlike so many of the young, you do not yearn for adulthood, pubs and car keys. You want to stay where you are, in the Republic of Pubescence, where feeling has primacy and pain is beautiful. And you know what ... ?

I think you are right." otm steven fry

Meteor Crater (jdchurchill), Tuesday, 22 December 2009 19:47 (fourteen years ago) link

But what is the meaning of sausage?

leftover meatparts + spices

everyone stop (dan m), Tuesday, 22 December 2009 19:51 (fourteen years ago) link

def one of my fave scenes in TP there, omar.

Rage, Resentment, Spleen (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 22 December 2009 19:53 (fourteen years ago) link

Do species have an inherit right to exist?

the shit's tits (CaptainLorax), Tuesday, 22 December 2009 23:21 (fourteen years ago) link

eight years pass...

Exhibit A:

Can Someone Who is Over 40 Please Explain the Meaning of Life Please?

Exhibit B:

― darraghmac, Saturday, September 11, 2004 9:10 PM (thirteen years ago)

Proof positive that dmac is MUCH older than he lets on.

A is for (Aimless), Friday, 19 January 2018 19:48 (six years ago) link

Answer to OPQ: no

Curly Morlocks (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 19 January 2018 23:24 (six years ago) link

be kind

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Friday, 19 January 2018 23:25 (six years ago) link

Yeah, pretty much. At least try.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 19 January 2018 23:25 (six years ago) link

Huh

You don't even wanna know how disgustingly young I was if that timestamp is accurate

remember the lmao (darraghmac), Friday, 19 January 2018 23:49 (six years ago) link

47?

grim-n-gritty hooty reboot (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 19 January 2018 23:51 (six years ago) link

Days I doubt I'll see 47 tbh

remember the lmao (darraghmac), Friday, 19 January 2018 23:52 (six years ago) link

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Myth_of_Sisyphus

CAMUS ERRY DAYYY

I’ve decided I can get up before dawn. I did it today and it was fine, it felt great, actually

El Tomboto, Friday, 19 January 2018 23:58 (six years ago) link

I’m only 39 though

El Tomboto, Saturday, 20 January 2018 00:09 (six years ago) link

'only' gtfo granddad

remember the lmao (darraghmac), Saturday, 20 January 2018 00:15 (six years ago) link

ilxors are 27 iirc

trife's rich padgett (rip van wanko), Saturday, 20 January 2018 00:27 (six years ago) link

Have we talked about the Please Sandwich in this thread title yet because it is mod worthy imho

El Tomboto, Saturday, 20 January 2018 00:42 (six years ago) link

I think it's vital tbh

remember the lmao (darraghmac), Saturday, 20 January 2018 00:47 (six years ago) link

Synchronicity

calstars, Saturday, 20 January 2018 02:04 (six years ago) link

Okay.

Curly Morlocks (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 20 January 2018 02:10 (six years ago) link

Life
Is the only thing worth living for

Curly Morlocks (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 20 January 2018 02:10 (six years ago) link

I’ve decided I can get up before dawn

you're sick, this is sickening

j., Saturday, 20 January 2018 02:19 (six years ago) link

A particular subset of the world’s population think a particular age group think they learn some objective truth about “life” by conflating older age with life experience and/or knowledge

infinity (∞), Saturday, 20 January 2018 02:25 (six years ago) link

a certain amount of life experience always comes with age. knowledge is hit-and-miss.

A is for (Aimless), Saturday, 20 January 2018 03:36 (six years ago) link

Not so good at recognizing Shakespearean or Biblical allusions--I never miss a Flipper quote, though.

clemenza, Saturday, 20 January 2018 19:11 (six years ago) link

I’ve decided I can get up before dawn

Of course you can, but why would you?

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Saturday, 20 January 2018 19:21 (six years ago) link

Don't give your conscience a reason to kick your ass. Why because it won't stop, ever. This includes regrets over having done nothing.

Enable everyone else to do so as well. You may have heard about people without a conscience - they are the tiniest of minorities and not virulent, unless you let them make the rules.

Well, it's not much of a philosophy, I know. I'll be 40 in April.

Wes Brodicus, Saturday, 20 January 2018 19:59 (six years ago) link

live the life you love, in the god you trust, and don't take it all too seriously.

scott seward, Saturday, 20 January 2018 20:02 (six years ago) link

i only live by love & rockets lyrics.

scott seward, Saturday, 20 January 2018 20:02 (six years ago) link

Xp: Because it is the best time of the day? When the day is still virgin. Everything is still possible before dawn.

Ich bin kein Berliner (alex in mainhattan), Saturday, 20 January 2018 20:06 (six years ago) link

I’ve decided I can get up before dawn

What you gain on the swings, you lose on the roundabouts: you may have some good early mornings, but you're more tired late evening.

Luna Schlosser, Saturday, 20 January 2018 20:43 (six years ago) link

Make the best out of the bad, just laugh it off. You didn't have to come here anyway. (I do a poor job of living by these words.)

clemenza, Sunday, 21 January 2018 19:46 (six years ago) link

Laughing it off is a probably a bit manic in the face of suffering and tragedy.....Probably best to settle for the Buddha’s smile of calm acceptance and inner amusement at seeing the divine comedy of life.

Luna Schlosser, Monday, 22 January 2018 09:14 (six years ago) link

After the dissolution of your last dregs of dignity and self respect, the prospects of wearing cardboard clown shoes en-route to Skid Row and dying there very soon, don't seem so bad.

I haven't sold one fortune cookie yet.

calzino, Monday, 22 January 2018 09:46 (six years ago) link

i would buy a set of calzino-penned fortune cookies or greetings cards, though i'd probably stop short of framed embroidery

ogmor, Monday, 22 January 2018 10:19 (six years ago) link


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