Ernie Bushmiller's "Nancy": C/D?

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I always assumed this strip was terrible, mainly because of its rep (and the present-day incarnation doesn't help), but I happened to read a bunch of the old ones in a big book of newspaper comics the other day and it's absolutely amazing! There's something mildly creepy and unsettling about it that I can't quite put my finger on - that absolutely blank, deadpan tone reminds me of something like "Zippy," only Bushmiller does it a lot better.

A good case for the defense: http://www.interestingideas.com/ii/nancy.htm

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Friday, 23 July 2004 09:42 (fifteen years ago) link

It was a terrific strip in its prime, and that prime lasted for many years. I have a couple of tremendous collections.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Friday, 23 July 2004 16:02 (fifteen years ago) link

It was all about that weird mom.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 24 July 2004 03:24 (fifteen years ago) link

the one thing I like about the relatively recent return to Bushmiller type strips is that it is soooo fuuuuucckked uuup these days. ugly fat children and Elvis winking from a framed picture and shit like that.

ROLLO!

CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 24 July 2004 04:45 (fifteen years ago) link

I just got an old Comics Journal with a Dan Clowes interview, and he agrees with me!

Gary Groth: What's your position on Ernie Bushmiller?

Clowes: I'm pro-Bushmiller. I mean, I don't like to get up on my soapbox and pontificate about Bushmiller as much as some of these people because I think that defeats the whole purpose. But to me, Nancy had an amazing atmosphere to it that I found kind of scary and off-putting, and really interesting. So yeah, I love Bushmiller, and this new guy who does Nancy should be shot.

G: For betraying the Bushmiller ethos?

C: Yeah, that's just awful dreck.

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Saturday, 24 July 2004 04:53 (fifteen years ago) link

(of course that interview's from 1992, so he's not referring to the current artist on Nancy, but the other guy who did the strip for about a decade and tried to "normalize" it)

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Saturday, 24 July 2004 04:57 (fifteen years ago) link

But to me, Nancy had an amazing atmosphere to it that I found kind of scary and off-putting, and really interesting


sums up the then and now (but not the normalizer) quite well

CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 24 July 2004 05:01 (fifteen years ago) link

AH CHOO

Eisbär (llamasfur), Saturday, 24 July 2004 16:21 (fifteen years ago) link

I swear there's been a thread about this. Anyway if you want a coffee table book, WRITE a REAL LETTER to the contact info on the official Nancy site, begging for it. Basically the caretakers of Bushmiller's estate want to do it but their publisher doesn't think it'll sell.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Saturday, 24 July 2004 16:31 (fifteen years ago) link

There has been a coffee tableish book before - I have it.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Saturday, 24 July 2004 19:13 (fifteen years ago) link

five card nancy!

jess, Saturday, 24 July 2004 20:15 (fifteen years ago) link

I thought it was kinda cool that aunt fritzie wears suzy boguss t-shirts now. that dude is a serious country fan.

oh, but yeah, Bushmiller was the coolest.

scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 24 July 2004 20:28 (fifteen years ago) link

haha - the only time i've written a letter to the atlanta journal-constitution was when they dropped the daily edition of nancy.

cinniblount (James Blount), Saturday, 24 July 2004 23:21 (fifteen years ago) link


cinniblount (James Blount), Saturday, 24 July 2004 23:30 (fifteen years ago) link

o goddammit

ihttp://www.gilchriststudios.com/nancy/celeb2/10b.gif

cinniblount (James Blount), Saturday, 24 July 2004 23:30 (fifteen years ago) link

Okay, that hurt my head, but it was also immeasurably better than freakin' Mutts. So is the whole Bettie Page thing the Gilchrists' special touch?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 24 July 2004 23:48 (fifteen years ago) link

one year passes...
back in 1994 ivan brunetti tried out for nancy - he came spookily close to the original strip's look and tone: http://www.ivanbrunetti.com/portfolio/misc/nancystrips.html

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Monday, 12 September 2005 07:40 (fourteen years ago) link

http://www.joebrainard.org/NANCY_MAIN.htm

anthony, Monday, 12 September 2005 08:04 (fourteen years ago) link

three years pass...

cuz it's kinda awesome.

forksclovetofu, Monday, 17 November 2008 23:13 (eleven years ago) link

That's freaking Little Lulu.

Abbott of the Trapezoid Monks (Abbott), Monday, 17 November 2008 23:13 (eleven years ago) link

My first thought too, Abbott.
But the "Field Enterprises" mark is the folks what own the Nancy trademark.

Perhaps this less humanized version will strike truer to home.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Old-40s-Comic-Strip-Nancy-Doll-Georgene-Averill_W0QQitemZ280285480083QQihZ018QQcategoryZ36549QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

forksclovetofu, Monday, 17 November 2008 23:18 (eleven years ago) link

THERE we go. That is the Nancy I would buy.

Abbott of the Trapezoid Monks (Abbott), Monday, 17 November 2008 23:18 (eleven years ago) link

srsly when did Nancy ever wear Moccasins?

Maybe it's like a Tijuana-style Lulu ripoff, that first one.

Abbott of the Trapezoid Monks (Abbott), Monday, 17 November 2008 23:19 (eleven years ago) link

I like the weird hydrocephalic Nancy; my gut tells me it's a licensed piece from the strips nuttier period.
Why is there no reprint set of Nancy material? It's certainly as marketable as Pogo.

forksclovetofu, Monday, 17 November 2008 23:22 (eleven years ago) link

Even '20s-'30s strips when it was Fritzi Ritz before Nancy spin-off, she didn't look like that.

Abbott of the Trapezoid Monks (Abbott), Monday, 17 November 2008 23:25 (eleven years ago) link

Now i really want to buy this just to be sure.
But I can hardly justify it.

forksclovetofu, Monday, 17 November 2008 23:29 (eleven years ago) link

I have a great Nancy compendium from eBay ($8) that has commentary from Art Spiegelman & others. v. good!

Abbott of the Trapezoid Monks (Abbott), Monday, 17 November 2008 23:30 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah, Kitchen Sink did a buncha reprints that I would buy used if I could find them at the Strand. You know the whole Griffith "Three Rocks" philosophy, right?

forksclovetofu, Monday, 17 November 2008 23:32 (eleven years ago) link

That whole strip is in there.

Abbott of the Trapezoid Monks (Abbott), Monday, 17 November 2008 23:33 (eleven years ago) link

potential tattoo for when I just don't care anymore:
http://www.rdrop.com/%7Ehalf/Personal/Hobbies/Comics/Nancy/3Rocks.gif

forksclovetofu, Monday, 17 November 2008 23:34 (eleven years ago) link

and is AWESOME and true

Abbott of the Trapezoid Monks (Abbott), Monday, 17 November 2008 23:34 (eleven years ago) link

haha forks I would get that

next tat I have lined up (hopefully as an xmas gift!) is a tat of the old Comics Code of Authority seal of approval

Abbott of the Trapezoid Monks (Abbott), Monday, 17 November 2008 23:34 (eleven years ago) link

"Art Spiegelman explains how a drawing of three rocks in a background scene was Ernie's way of showing us there were some rocks in the background. It was always three. Why? Because two rocks wouldn't be 'some rocks.' Two rocks would be a pair of rocks. And four rocks was unacceptable because four rocks would indicate 'some rocks' BUT IT WOULD BE ONE ROCK MORE THAN WAS NECESSARY TO CONVEY THE IDEA OF 'SOME ROCKS.'"

forksclovetofu, Monday, 17 November 2008 23:35 (eleven years ago) link

Okay, a girl with a comic code authority seal gets love forever.

forksclovetofu, Monday, 17 November 2008 23:37 (eleven years ago) link

I am thinking my inner arm between pit & right elbow.

Abbott of the Trapezoid Monks (Abbott), Monday, 17 November 2008 23:38 (eleven years ago) link

Those Kitchen Sink compilations are great. I wish I'd picked up more than the two I have -- they were cheaper than dirt for a while in the mid 90s.

a new Rock Hardy screen name because I can't find the old one (Rock Hardy), Monday, 17 November 2008 23:42 (eleven years ago) link

Did that publishing company die? They put out Cages, right?

Abbott of the Trapezoid Monks (Abbott), Monday, 17 November 2008 23:43 (eleven years ago) link

Denis Kitchen got caught in the speculator bubble-bust, sold out to Kevin Eastman...limbo.

a new Rock Hardy screen name because I can't find the old one (Rock Hardy), Monday, 17 November 2008 23:44 (eleven years ago) link

I would think the tramp stamp comics code would be the classy way to go.
All that Kitchen Sink stuff seems to have more or less disappeared from used book stores and comic shops in the city.
I think Tundra did Cages?
Kitchen Sink did fold, yes: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kitchen_Sink_Press
A shame, cause they were simply a decade or so ahead of their time.

forksclovetofu, Monday, 17 November 2008 23:45 (eleven years ago) link

The Lil' Abner reprints are the most priceless stuff they did; I'm often tempted to blow a shitload of money and buy up a bunch of em.

forksclovetofu, Monday, 17 November 2008 23:47 (eleven years ago) link

I am lucky, they have them at my public library.

Abbott of the Trapezoid Monks (Abbott), Monday, 17 November 2008 23:50 (eleven years ago) link

I know it's not fashionable to like Al Capp so much these days, but boy he could really tell a bigoted, wingnut story!

forksclovetofu, Monday, 17 November 2008 23:53 (eleven years ago) link

Fucking Comics.com keeps interrupting their Lil Abner Classics in the middle of storylines!

There is no Grodd but Mallah and Congorilla is His Prophet. (Oilyrags), Tuesday, 18 November 2008 00:13 (eleven years ago) link

I know it's not fashionable to like Al Capp so much these days, but boy he could really tell a bigoted, wingnut story!

maybe in the 60's, but I wouldn't call stuff like the Shmoo and the Bald Iggle the products of a bigoted wingnut.

clotpoll, Tuesday, 18 November 2008 00:35 (eleven years ago) link

He could also tell hilarious slapstick nonsense story.

And is obv better (in quality, art & bigotry level) than say Katzenjammer Kids or Bringing Up Father.

Abbott of the Trapezoid Monks (Abbott), Tuesday, 18 November 2008 00:48 (eleven years ago) link

Katzenjammer Kids never made me anything other than confused and bored.

Abbott of the Trapezoid Monks (Abbott), Tuesday, 18 November 2008 00:49 (eleven years ago) link

nine months pass...

Nancy, the voice of sanity in 1970

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 23 August 2009 05:41 (ten years ago) link

I liked the floral hipsters joke

salvador dollywood (Curt1s Stephens), Sunday, 23 August 2009 08:13 (ten years ago) link

First collection of the Jaimes strip

What the heck?! JUSTICE FOR GUY GILCHRIST

quelle sprocket damage (sic), Sunday, 14 July 2019 00:20 (one year ago) link

(in this scenario, Gilchrist would be jailed [& his former assistant would have a gig ghosting for a syndicate, just not on Nancy])

quelle sprocket damage (sic), Sunday, 14 July 2019 00:22 (one year ago) link

three weeks pass...

https://www.gocomics.com/nancy/2019/08/25

They've also got pre-order links up for the two Jaimes books.

a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 25 August 2019 18:52 (ten months ago) link

i love it

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 25 August 2019 20:19 (ten months ago) link

Another Labor Day classic : https://www.gocomics.com/nancy/2019/09/02

Ρεμπετολογια, Monday, 2 September 2019 18:03 (ten months ago) link

After early enjoyment I'm kind of hating the more obnoxious personality Jaimes has given Nancy, so today was a welcome lol.

WmC, Monday, 2 September 2019 18:09 (ten months ago) link

i gotta say, it's rare that anyone invokes Harold Foster these days so kudos

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 2 September 2019 18:45 (ten months ago) link

one month passes...

Another rip-off of one of Alan Moore’s formally audacious, intricately-illustrated reinterpretations of material from the 1960s.

now let's play big lunch take little lunch (sic), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 19:02 (eight months ago) link

I don't get it.

Spironolactone T. Agnew (rushomancy), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 21:59 (eight months ago) link

^ Nancy strip published 24 hours after Damon Lindelof's Watchmen

now let's play big lunch take little lunch (sic), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 22:22 (eight months ago) link

It's also a DIY Möebius Strip.

a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 23:26 (eight months ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/a6Hdrbe.jpg

Whiney G. Weingarten, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 23:29 (eight months ago) link

Actually, I think I need someone to explain this comic to me

Whiney G. Weingarten, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 23:35 (eight months ago) link

Time is a circle

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 23:48 (eight months ago) link

It's also a DIY Möebius Strip.

not a Moebius strip, an tape-the-ends-together infinite loop, like Moore's I Can Hear The Grass Grow, from 1988

now let's play big lunch take little lunch (sic), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 23:49 (eight months ago) link

CALLING IT: Sic is Olivia Jaimes (and Quentin Tarentino)

a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 23 October 2019 00:29 (eight months ago) link

Hey sic, tell your Fanta contacts to get their heads in the game, I was finally gonna pull the trigger on the Bushmiller collections only to find that they're mostly hopelessly out of print after only a couple of years. Tell them I bought the Peanuts box sets right up to the bitter end if that helps. Thx, lylas

Go-Gurt Ops (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 23 October 2019 00:47 (eight months ago) link

Fanta are kind of a clown shoes operation

president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Wednesday, 23 October 2019 01:19 (eight months ago) link

not a Moebius strip, an tape-the-ends-together infinite loop, like Moore's I Can Hear The Grass Grow, from 1988

― now let's play big lunch take little lunch (sic)

pretty sure that was roy wood

Spironolactone T. Agnew (rushomancy), Wednesday, 23 October 2019 01:29 (eight months ago) link

reinterpretations of material from the 1960s.

now let's play big lunch take little lunch (sic), Wednesday, 23 October 2019 01:45 (eight months ago) link

two weeks pass...
two months pass...

This one hits all the feels:

https://www.gocomics.com/nancy/2020/01/06

a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 7 February 2020 21:02 (five months ago) link

read today's and said to myself "jaimes is going to wind up doing blink in four panels"

you know my name, look up the number of the beast (rushomancy), Saturday, 8 February 2020 02:50 (five months ago) link

one month passes...
one month passes...

So here for Woke Sluggo

https://www.gocomics.com/nancy/2020/05/03

"...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 3 May 2020 16:50 (two months ago) link

OMG

My Chess Hustler (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 3 May 2020 16:55 (two months ago) link

i chuckled, but a liiiiiittle too much effort there

Nhex, Sunday, 3 May 2020 18:48 (two months ago) link

lol the ott-ness makes it better imo

so good. is there a coffee table book yet??

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 3 May 2020 19:39 (two months ago) link

nhex's take is my take on her whole take on nancy period. i'm not mad at it tho, beats the hell outta gilchrist.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Sunday, 3 May 2020 19:40 (two months ago) link

I took a look at the first Jaimes strip collection at the bookstore and was disappointed that 1) it’s in color 2) it looks like it has JPEG artifacts or some such poor reproduction. No sale.

silby, Sunday, 3 May 2020 20:00 (two months ago) link

is it running in B&W anywhere at all? she seems to be drawing it in/for colour, would assume a B&W book would require someone spotting every single strip

Elon's musk (sic), Sunday, 3 May 2020 22:30 (two months ago) link

Iirc, Jaimes draws and colors the strips on an iPad. It also seems like any papers still running daily strips run them in color (the last time I looked at the Houston paper--admittedly awhile ago--they were cut down from two b&w pages to the color back page of the culture/style section).

"...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 3 May 2020 22:58 (two months ago) link

I haven’t clapped eyes on a daily comics page in aeons but I assumed they were still black and white

silby, Monday, 4 May 2020 00:06 (two months ago) link

Guess I also assumed that the color strips were produced in the traditional way where the artist hands in a black and white version and some hack at the syndicate does colors.

silby, Monday, 4 May 2020 00:07 (two months ago) link

two months pass...

https://i.imgur.com/A1ThYI0.gif
Honestly I just want to know there's a legit answer to that puzzle!

Nhex, Friday, 10 July 2020 06:36 (five days ago) link

Yes.

all cats are beautiful (silby), Friday, 10 July 2020 06:44 (five days ago) link

Stack the cake

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 10 July 2020 06:48 (five days ago) link

1 becomes 2, 2 becomes 4, cut 3 stacked into 6, cut 7 stacked in half

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 10 July 2020 06:51 (five days ago) link

#justup2L8thoughts

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 10 July 2020 06:52 (five days ago) link

ahhh stacking. ok.

Nhex, Friday, 10 July 2020 07:00 (five days ago) link

thanks!

Nhex, Friday, 10 July 2020 07:00 (five days ago) link

yep, slice it once horizontally through the middle, then do the remaining three cuts in this pattern:


\ /
x
___/_\___
/ \

avellano medio inglés (f. hazel), Friday, 10 July 2020 07:02 (five days ago) link

Such timing! I just had a whole discussion abt Nancy w my coworker yesterday, and then looked at the Fantagraphics collections which are all super out of print and $$$$ :(

vision joanna newsom (Stevie D(eux)), Friday, 10 July 2020 13:16 (five days ago) link

I hate answers like that because you're just going to fuck up the frosting.

pplains, Saturday, 11 July 2020 00:07 (four days ago) link

these are pedagogical cake scenarios, the real party is the math

avellano medio inglés (f. hazel), Saturday, 11 July 2020 01:53 (four days ago) link


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