Ernie Bushmiller's "Nancy": C/D?

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I always assumed this strip was terrible, mainly because of its rep (and the present-day incarnation doesn't help), but I happened to read a bunch of the old ones in a big book of newspaper comics the other day and it's absolutely amazing! There's something mildly creepy and unsettling about it that I can't quite put my finger on - that absolutely blank, deadpan tone reminds me of something like "Zippy," only Bushmiller does it a lot better.

A good case for the defense: http://www.interestingideas.com/ii/nancy.htm

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Friday, 23 July 2004 09:42 (fifteen years ago) link

It was a terrific strip in its prime, and that prime lasted for many years. I have a couple of tremendous collections.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Friday, 23 July 2004 16:02 (fifteen years ago) link

It was all about that weird mom.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 24 July 2004 03:24 (fifteen years ago) link

the one thing I like about the relatively recent return to Bushmiller type strips is that it is soooo fuuuuucckked uuup these days. ugly fat children and Elvis winking from a framed picture and shit like that.

ROLLO!

CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 24 July 2004 04:45 (fifteen years ago) link

I just got an old Comics Journal with a Dan Clowes interview, and he agrees with me!

Gary Groth: What's your position on Ernie Bushmiller?

Clowes: I'm pro-Bushmiller. I mean, I don't like to get up on my soapbox and pontificate about Bushmiller as much as some of these people because I think that defeats the whole purpose. But to me, Nancy had an amazing atmosphere to it that I found kind of scary and off-putting, and really interesting. So yeah, I love Bushmiller, and this new guy who does Nancy should be shot.

G: For betraying the Bushmiller ethos?

C: Yeah, that's just awful dreck.

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Saturday, 24 July 2004 04:53 (fifteen years ago) link

(of course that interview's from 1992, so he's not referring to the current artist on Nancy, but the other guy who did the strip for about a decade and tried to "normalize" it)

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Saturday, 24 July 2004 04:57 (fifteen years ago) link

But to me, Nancy had an amazing atmosphere to it that I found kind of scary and off-putting, and really interesting


sums up the then and now (but not the normalizer) quite well

CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 24 July 2004 05:01 (fifteen years ago) link

AH CHOO

Eisbär (llamasfur), Saturday, 24 July 2004 16:21 (fifteen years ago) link

I swear there's been a thread about this. Anyway if you want a coffee table book, WRITE a REAL LETTER to the contact info on the official Nancy site, begging for it. Basically the caretakers of Bushmiller's estate want to do it but their publisher doesn't think it'll sell.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Saturday, 24 July 2004 16:31 (fifteen years ago) link

There has been a coffee tableish book before - I have it.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Saturday, 24 July 2004 19:13 (fifteen years ago) link

five card nancy!

jess, Saturday, 24 July 2004 20:15 (fifteen years ago) link

I thought it was kinda cool that aunt fritzie wears suzy boguss t-shirts now. that dude is a serious country fan.

oh, but yeah, Bushmiller was the coolest.

scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 24 July 2004 20:28 (fifteen years ago) link

haha - the only time i've written a letter to the atlanta journal-constitution was when they dropped the daily edition of nancy.

cinniblount (James Blount), Saturday, 24 July 2004 23:21 (fifteen years ago) link


cinniblount (James Blount), Saturday, 24 July 2004 23:30 (fifteen years ago) link

o goddammit

ihttp://www.gilchriststudios.com/nancy/celeb2/10b.gif

cinniblount (James Blount), Saturday, 24 July 2004 23:30 (fifteen years ago) link

Okay, that hurt my head, but it was also immeasurably better than freakin' Mutts. So is the whole Bettie Page thing the Gilchrists' special touch?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 24 July 2004 23:48 (fifteen years ago) link

one year passes...
back in 1994 ivan brunetti tried out for nancy - he came spookily close to the original strip's look and tone: http://www.ivanbrunetti.com/portfolio/misc/nancystrips.html

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Monday, 12 September 2005 07:40 (fourteen years ago) link

http://www.joebrainard.org/NANCY_MAIN.htm

anthony, Monday, 12 September 2005 08:04 (fourteen years ago) link

three years pass...

cuz it's kinda awesome.

forksclovetofu, Monday, 17 November 2008 23:13 (ten years ago) link

That's freaking Little Lulu.

Abbott of the Trapezoid Monks (Abbott), Monday, 17 November 2008 23:13 (ten years ago) link

My first thought too, Abbott.
But the "Field Enterprises" mark is the folks what own the Nancy trademark.

Perhaps this less humanized version will strike truer to home.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Old-40s-Comic-Strip-Nancy-Doll-Georgene-Averill_W0QQitemZ280285480083QQihZ018QQcategoryZ36549QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

forksclovetofu, Monday, 17 November 2008 23:18 (ten years ago) link

THERE we go. That is the Nancy I would buy.

Abbott of the Trapezoid Monks (Abbott), Monday, 17 November 2008 23:18 (ten years ago) link

srsly when did Nancy ever wear Moccasins?

Maybe it's like a Tijuana-style Lulu ripoff, that first one.

Abbott of the Trapezoid Monks (Abbott), Monday, 17 November 2008 23:19 (ten years ago) link

I like the weird hydrocephalic Nancy; my gut tells me it's a licensed piece from the strips nuttier period.
Why is there no reprint set of Nancy material? It's certainly as marketable as Pogo.

forksclovetofu, Monday, 17 November 2008 23:22 (ten years ago) link

Even '20s-'30s strips when it was Fritzi Ritz before Nancy spin-off, she didn't look like that.

Abbott of the Trapezoid Monks (Abbott), Monday, 17 November 2008 23:25 (ten years ago) link

Now i really want to buy this just to be sure.
But I can hardly justify it.

forksclovetofu, Monday, 17 November 2008 23:29 (ten years ago) link

I have a great Nancy compendium from eBay ($8) that has commentary from Art Spiegelman & others. v. good!

Abbott of the Trapezoid Monks (Abbott), Monday, 17 November 2008 23:30 (ten years ago) link

Yeah, Kitchen Sink did a buncha reprints that I would buy used if I could find them at the Strand. You know the whole Griffith "Three Rocks" philosophy, right?

forksclovetofu, Monday, 17 November 2008 23:32 (ten years ago) link

That whole strip is in there.

Abbott of the Trapezoid Monks (Abbott), Monday, 17 November 2008 23:33 (ten years ago) link

potential tattoo for when I just don't care anymore:
http://www.rdrop.com/%7Ehalf/Personal/Hobbies/Comics/Nancy/3Rocks.gif

forksclovetofu, Monday, 17 November 2008 23:34 (ten years ago) link

and is AWESOME and true

Abbott of the Trapezoid Monks (Abbott), Monday, 17 November 2008 23:34 (ten years ago) link

haha forks I would get that

next tat I have lined up (hopefully as an xmas gift!) is a tat of the old Comics Code of Authority seal of approval

Abbott of the Trapezoid Monks (Abbott), Monday, 17 November 2008 23:34 (ten years ago) link

"Art Spiegelman explains how a drawing of three rocks in a background scene was Ernie's way of showing us there were some rocks in the background. It was always three. Why? Because two rocks wouldn't be 'some rocks.' Two rocks would be a pair of rocks. And four rocks was unacceptable because four rocks would indicate 'some rocks' BUT IT WOULD BE ONE ROCK MORE THAN WAS NECESSARY TO CONVEY THE IDEA OF 'SOME ROCKS.'"

forksclovetofu, Monday, 17 November 2008 23:35 (ten years ago) link

Okay, a girl with a comic code authority seal gets love forever.

forksclovetofu, Monday, 17 November 2008 23:37 (ten years ago) link

I am thinking my inner arm between pit & right elbow.

Abbott of the Trapezoid Monks (Abbott), Monday, 17 November 2008 23:38 (ten years ago) link

Those Kitchen Sink compilations are great. I wish I'd picked up more than the two I have -- they were cheaper than dirt for a while in the mid 90s.

a new Rock Hardy screen name because I can't find the old one (Rock Hardy), Monday, 17 November 2008 23:42 (ten years ago) link

Did that publishing company die? They put out Cages, right?

Abbott of the Trapezoid Monks (Abbott), Monday, 17 November 2008 23:43 (ten years ago) link

Denis Kitchen got caught in the speculator bubble-bust, sold out to Kevin Eastman...limbo.

a new Rock Hardy screen name because I can't find the old one (Rock Hardy), Monday, 17 November 2008 23:44 (ten years ago) link

I would think the tramp stamp comics code would be the classy way to go.
All that Kitchen Sink stuff seems to have more or less disappeared from used book stores and comic shops in the city.
I think Tundra did Cages?
Kitchen Sink did fold, yes: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kitchen_Sink_Press
A shame, cause they were simply a decade or so ahead of their time.

forksclovetofu, Monday, 17 November 2008 23:45 (ten years ago) link

The Lil' Abner reprints are the most priceless stuff they did; I'm often tempted to blow a shitload of money and buy up a bunch of em.

forksclovetofu, Monday, 17 November 2008 23:47 (ten years ago) link

I am lucky, they have them at my public library.

Abbott of the Trapezoid Monks (Abbott), Monday, 17 November 2008 23:50 (ten years ago) link

I know it's not fashionable to like Al Capp so much these days, but boy he could really tell a bigoted, wingnut story!

forksclovetofu, Monday, 17 November 2008 23:53 (ten years ago) link

Fucking Comics.com keeps interrupting their Lil Abner Classics in the middle of storylines!

There is no Grodd but Mallah and Congorilla is His Prophet. (Oilyrags), Tuesday, 18 November 2008 00:13 (ten years ago) link

I know it's not fashionable to like Al Capp so much these days, but boy he could really tell a bigoted, wingnut story!

maybe in the 60's, but I wouldn't call stuff like the Shmoo and the Bald Iggle the products of a bigoted wingnut.

clotpoll, Tuesday, 18 November 2008 00:35 (ten years ago) link

He could also tell hilarious slapstick nonsense story.

And is obv better (in quality, art & bigotry level) than say Katzenjammer Kids or Bringing Up Father.

Abbott of the Trapezoid Monks (Abbott), Tuesday, 18 November 2008 00:48 (ten years ago) link

Katzenjammer Kids never made me anything other than confused and bored.

Abbott of the Trapezoid Monks (Abbott), Tuesday, 18 November 2008 00:49 (ten years ago) link

nine months pass...

Nancy, the voice of sanity in 1970

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 23 August 2009 05:41 (ten years ago) link

I liked the floral hipsters joke

salvador dollywood (Curt1s Stephens), Sunday, 23 August 2009 08:13 (ten years ago) link

what's fueling other projects is the fact that United Features owns the IP and is going to wring every penny out of it they can.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 10 April 2019 03:41 (seven months ago) link

Nancy The Flamethrower! The kids love this one.

Lil' Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 10 April 2019 08:22 (seven months ago) link

Sorry but it's impossible to get angry over _NANCY_ getting an all out multi-platform brand expansion. That's just deliciously funny.

abcfsk, Wednesday, 10 April 2019 09:09 (seven months ago) link

Good for OJ, though

Chuck_Tatum, Wednesday, 10 April 2019 10:01 (seven months ago) link

last week's strips were all pretty damn funny

i get where the schulz comparisons are coming from, a lot of the non-meta nancy is dealing with the ridiculous things we do, and it's expressed through children on top of that

like schulz nancy's behavior is genuinely childlike most of the time, but her selfishness, laziness, and petty narcissism is something that's easy to relate to as an adult

it's actually kind of interesting how relatable a character nancy is for being a narcissist

Jaki Liebowitz (rushomancy), Wednesday, 10 April 2019 13:31 (seven months ago) link

Good for OJ, though

if she's not getting a cut, she should walk

blokes you can't rust (sic), Wednesday, 10 April 2019 17:36 (seven months ago) link

i am skeptical

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 10 April 2019 17:41 (seven months ago) link

wowww

Jeff Bathos (symsymsym), Thursday, 18 April 2019 02:18 (six months ago) link

one month passes...

https://www.gocomics.com/nancy/2019/05/29

Last Sunday's was great as well.

a large tuna called “Justice” (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 29 May 2019 16:47 (five months ago) link

yeah this one is amazing

https://www.gocomics.com/nancy/2019/05/26

frogbs, Wednesday, 29 May 2019 17:30 (five months ago) link

Poor Melissa Bangles.

a large tuna called “Justice” (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 29 May 2019 17:52 (five months ago) link

i gotta say that name is... perfect

Nhex, Wednesday, 29 May 2019 18:17 (five months ago) link

aw, I thought it must have been in repeats this week, comicsrss hasn't updated

RIP, me reading Nancy

quelle sprocket damage (sic), Wednesday, 29 May 2019 19:19 (five months ago) link

same here, hopefully it'll wake up soon

Nhex, Wednesday, 29 May 2019 19:48 (five months ago) link

i really loved sunday's having seen olivia's "self-portrait" recently

Flood-Resistant Mirror-Drilling Machine (rushomancy), Wednesday, 29 May 2019 23:22 (five months ago) link

hah!

Nhex, Thursday, 30 May 2019 19:48 (five months ago) link

three weeks pass...

There's some codgers commenting on this one about OJ making up the word "up-voted".

https://www.gocomics.com/nancy/2019/06/22

frustration and wonky passion (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 23 June 2019 00:19 (four months ago) link

I clicked through on one of the codgers' accounts and he is following hundreds of strips and cartoonists, so: respect

quelle sprocket damage (sic), Sunday, 23 June 2019 00:43 (four months ago) link

cool.

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 2 July 2019 19:56 (four months ago) link

lol

bookmarkflaglink (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 2 July 2019 19:57 (four months ago) link

the RSS has been killed now :( :(

quelle sprocket damage (sic), Saturday, 13 July 2019 20:02 (four months ago) link

First collection of the Jaimes strip and a board book for the kids (entitled Nancy's Genius Plan, also by Jaimes) coming Oct. 1.

Logy Psycho (Old Lunch), Saturday, 13 July 2019 23:52 (four months ago) link

First collection of the Jaimes strip

What the heck?! JUSTICE FOR GUY GILCHRIST

quelle sprocket damage (sic), Sunday, 14 July 2019 00:20 (three months ago) link

(in this scenario, Gilchrist would be jailed [& his former assistant would have a gig ghosting for a syndicate, just not on Nancy])

quelle sprocket damage (sic), Sunday, 14 July 2019 00:22 (three months ago) link

three weeks pass...

https://www.gocomics.com/nancy/2019/08/25

They've also got pre-order links up for the two Jaimes books.

a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 25 August 2019 18:52 (two months ago) link

i love it

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 25 August 2019 20:19 (two months ago) link

Another Labor Day classic : https://www.gocomics.com/nancy/2019/09/02

Ρεμπετολογια, Monday, 2 September 2019 18:03 (two months ago) link

After early enjoyment I'm kind of hating the more obnoxious personality Jaimes has given Nancy, so today was a welcome lol.

WmC, Monday, 2 September 2019 18:09 (two months ago) link

i gotta say, it's rare that anyone invokes Harold Foster these days so kudos

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 2 September 2019 18:45 (two months ago) link

one month passes...

Another rip-off of one of Alan Moore’s formally audacious, intricately-illustrated reinterpretations of material from the 1960s.

now let's play big lunch take little lunch (sic), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 19:02 (three weeks ago) link

I don't get it.

Spironolactone T. Agnew (rushomancy), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 21:59 (three weeks ago) link

^ Nancy strip published 24 hours after Damon Lindelof's Watchmen

now let's play big lunch take little lunch (sic), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 22:22 (three weeks ago) link

It's also a DIY Möebius Strip.

a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 23:26 (three weeks ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/a6Hdrbe.jpg

Whiney G. Weingarten, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 23:29 (three weeks ago) link

Actually, I think I need someone to explain this comic to me

Whiney G. Weingarten, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 23:35 (three weeks ago) link

Time is a circle

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 23:48 (three weeks ago) link

It's also a DIY Möebius Strip.

not a Moebius strip, an tape-the-ends-together infinite loop, like Moore's I Can Hear The Grass Grow, from 1988

now let's play big lunch take little lunch (sic), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 23:49 (three weeks ago) link

CALLING IT: Sic is Olivia Jaimes (and Quentin Tarentino)

a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 23 October 2019 00:29 (three weeks ago) link

Hey sic, tell your Fanta contacts to get their heads in the game, I was finally gonna pull the trigger on the Bushmiller collections only to find that they're mostly hopelessly out of print after only a couple of years. Tell them I bought the Peanuts box sets right up to the bitter end if that helps. Thx, lylas

Go-Gurt Ops (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 23 October 2019 00:47 (three weeks ago) link

Fanta are kind of a clown shoes operation

president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Wednesday, 23 October 2019 01:19 (three weeks ago) link

not a Moebius strip, an tape-the-ends-together infinite loop, like Moore's I Can Hear The Grass Grow, from 1988

― now let's play big lunch take little lunch (sic)

pretty sure that was roy wood

Spironolactone T. Agnew (rushomancy), Wednesday, 23 October 2019 01:29 (three weeks ago) link

reinterpretations of material from the 1960s.

now let's play big lunch take little lunch (sic), Wednesday, 23 October 2019 01:45 (three weeks ago) link

two weeks pass...

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