Lance Armstrong is a God

it's dull, he's smug, already used the "everybody was doing it" line. I'll just leave it in the background and shake my head occasionally.

the fact that they stretched this into 2.5 hrs of content is the biggest travesty of all

someone tell me when he flies into a roid rage

Richard Moore ‏@richardmoore73

Trending topics in UK: #BBCLance, #Oprah, #Lance, #EPO and #JEDWARDmissMUCH

omg this is the most boring thing i've ever watched

i've turned on drumline

Bec ‏@Brocklesnitch

I hope Lance Armstrong cries and then Oprah softly licks all of his tears from his face to help her do some more time in her workout later

Well he's still lying.

He's obviously protecting people (that lied for him under oath) and denying any recent wrongdoing that is still within the statute of limitations.

He's only admitting enough to try to gain some sponsorship back and to get some of his supporters back.

His mind is so evil and calculating that he'll believe only what he wants to... It's hard to say what's going to happen to him next.

BUT...

If he really wanted to reverse the damage done to the support he could provide intel to USADA/WADA connecting his management, his financiers to the top of the UCI, all the while fixing the races, and probably the biggest kicker is how his financiers bankrolled the Amgen IPO which possibly led to a highly illegal team sponsorship for Amgen's branded EPO.

http://i.imgur.com/yuysz.jpg

@pbump: FYI, Lance Armstong actually just tried to rationalize attempts to destroy a woman's reputation by noting that he didn't call her fat.

"If there was a truth and reconciliation commission - and I can't call for that - and I'm invited I'll be first man through the door."

ball of steel

thread title needs a change, maybe just had "in the Nietzschean sense" or something i dunno

This is the woman who is not Fat. 1000000000x better human being than Lance

http://www.cnn.com/video/?hpt=hp_t1#/video/us/2013/01/18/ac-armstrong-andreu-reacts-to-intv.cnn

RIP Lance, heaven needed a really shit reason for having seven really boring Tours in a row.

Anyway, I'm off to see what L'Equipe has to say about this, I bet it will be quite reasoned.

can we change thread title to "Lance Armstrong is a Golden God"

There was a perfectly good I hate Lance Armstrong. thread we could have used for this.

xp how about 'Lance Armstrong has a Golden Arm'?

guys, thread title is perfect

http://www.uk-muscle.co.uk/steroid-testosterone-information/172626-performance-enhancing-drugs-professional-sports-long-interview.html

very revealing

I have expected him to start laying down plastic sheets on Oprah's set and start lecturing her about Huey Lewis

LOL otm

re: moullet's post, have long said they should just legalise everything

an oft mentioned awful idea that would ensure victors would be those most willing to risk their lives via medical experimentation, not to mention the vast majority of fans dont want to see that shit in the first place and the whole thing becomes kinda moot w/o fans

what a lot of people don't realize about PEDs is that they affect different people in widely different ways.

in the case of endurance sports, EPO can only help some people slightly, and others immensely.

this is why when LA talks about how the era when he won the tours was "an even playing field", it's 100% bullshit.

If they legalize everything, I expect to see surgically-created human-animal hybrids before 2020.

as the link says, it's not necessarily that life-threatening if done *well*

the main issue with it would be that of access, and consequent unfairness when the bigger nations won the arms-race to develop the most effective chemicals, although extremely talented individuals from poorer nations will always find sponsorship

i'd foresee a breakaway 'clean' movement, and YOU, THE PEOPLE would choose which to follow, if either

that said, extend this to other sports and i begin to feel a trifle repulsed, so perhaps these are just my dismissive thoughts about athletics being projected

aimless, that would be amazing. see the human cheetah! only 7 farthings a view! for a fortnight only!

this is why when LA talks about how the era when he won the tours was "an even playing field", it's 100% bullshit.

bingo, but on the spectrum of "reprehensible things Lance Armstrong said during the Oprah interview" I don't think it places that high, he really came off badly in so many ways

Imago - aside from everything else where would the money come from? What brands would want to be associated with an openly 'dirty' cycling competition?

well, that's where a 'clean' breakaway would form, with far more stringent testing

dunno, this narrative needs some work

But surely there would be more money in the 'clean' version so you would just get people spending big money to come up with ways to beat the tests/bully people into silence and win that one as there would be greater rewards.

And then it'll be won a bunch of times by some guy called Bance Harmstong do u see

maybe we shouldn't look up to sportspeople so much as paragons of human achievement or virtue, but as entertainers

idk this kinda kills me to write as I would like to believe in corinthian values, level playing-fields and the like

team sports don't bring out the cynic in me nearly so much - cycling and athletics are rigged games trying their damnedest to put on an outward show of cleanness and it's a shame because they can be extremely good fun to watch - they can carry with them the catharsis of sublime victory - but beneath it all is the drugs narrative and it puts me off

The PED testing done today, while not perfect, is incredibly more advanced than it was even say like 4 years ago... particularly in the chemical analysis regarding steroids, blood/oxygen-boosters, blood transfusions.

Hormone testing is much more sophisticated, but a lot of the masking agents are now easier to detect (FSchleck for example).

strange guy http://gawker.com/5977073/presenting-the-most-awkward-moment-from-lance-armstrongs-oprah-interview-his-failed-fat-joke

A smirk smeared across his face, Armstrong wistfully recalls how he called Besty "crazy" and "a bitch."

Then, for one horrible moment, you can and watch Lance sit back "read the room."

Time for a little comedy.

"I did call her crazy….I did. I did. I think she'd be okay with me saying this, but…I'm gonna take the liberty to say it. [When we spoke on the phone recently,] I said 'Listen, I called you ‘crazy,' I called you ‘a bitch.' I called you all these things…but I never called you ‘fat.'"

Then, Armstrong pauses for laughter.

He pauses a little longer for laughter.

He waits and waits for the laughter to come, while the camera cuts to a brilliant shot of Oprah blinking at him, her eyelids heavy under the weight of gravitas.

"'Cause…" he begins. Maybe Oprah didn't get the joke? Maybe if he explains the joke it will become funny and he and Oprah will laugh and laugh and she'll scrap the whole interview and take him to OS-TRAIL-YAAAAA instead?

"…She thought I said ‘You are a fat, crazy bitch,'" he flails, reaching out for a lifesaver. Unfortunately Oprah's soul has already left her body; she floats above the room and watches him die.

"…And I said," he repeats "‘Betsy…I never said you were fat.'"

Okay, Oprah's done. She moves on.

u_u

making a fat joke to oprah is just...alien behavior.

these are the the things that make me feel okay for disliking him all these years. douche

He called her fat and ugly for the record.

espn is really burying this story

at least on their website. 8th story down on the sidebar, below alvin gentry getting canned and tiger missing the cut.

lance armstrong on oprah: sort of like watching a play about the crucifixion?

but actor jesus reaaaally sucks

http://gawker.com/5977456/australian-library-moves-lance-armstrongs-books-to-the-fiction-section

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jan/21/australian-library-lance-armstrong-fiction

True Crime surely?

http://www.cnn.com/2013/01/21/us/actually-that-lance-armstrong-library-thing-was-real-after-all-man-this-is-confusing/index.html?hpt=us_c2

http://veloclinic.tumblr.com/post/41480107464

http://playtrue.wada-ama.org/news/statement-from-wada-president-john-fahey-in-response-to-uci-press-release-of-january-28-2013/