flash didn't rap that, c'mon jep
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 11 February 2014 01:21 (ten years ago) link
ken jennings weighs in - http://www.slate.com/articles/arts/culturebox/2014/02/ken_jennings_on_jeopardy_champion_arthur_chu_and_daily_double_hunting.html
jennings somewhat off in thinking baseball, football, etc embrace innovation - the actual teams might (and in baseball's case there was considerable resistance here even) but there's considerable resistance from the media and the fans to a certain extent. football is pretty much constantly innovating to the extent that sometimes long ago discarded innovations or ideas can momentarily become evolutionarily advantageous again but there are still considerable segments of the fans and the media that want to see the game 'the way it used to be played', this kind of conservatism generally is exhibited more during discussions of concussions or other areas where the game is perceived to be under attack and under threat of some sort of emasculation, it's pretty rare this griping really focuses on actual schemes or specific innovations but you can see it flare up from time to time eg some of the chip kelly stuff earlier this season. another difference is that sports at any level where 'fans' comes into play is generally played by ppl who have played the sport before. jeopardy is generally played by ppl who are learning how to play as they play, to the extent that simply googling 'how to play jeopardy' beforehand can be a considerable advantage. i've never been on jeopardy so i could be way off (maybe jaymc can weigh in) but it seems like there are aspects of actually playing it that couldn't be anticipated by someone playing along at home. the other night i watched an episode of community i had dvred and there was 15 minutes of jeopardy before it and lo and behold it was a chu episode. anyway these ppl were pretty bright clearly (they'd made it on jeopardy) and there was a question that was basically 'what is 5 times 12' and nobody got it so there is clearly something about the game that makes actual thought (as opposed to mere memory) difficult. in this respect this makes what chu is doing more impressive to me now, actually having the presence of mind to execute the strategy and still having to yknow actually answer the questions (which is something that kinda diminishes the innovation in that it's not an innovation that allows a player to overcome a talent deficit against an opponent, it's not a gamechanger) is pretty impressive. strategy also seems like it tends to leave the easier questions on the board so maybe this makes the game 'harder' for ppl playing at home and they resent him for it.
― balls, Tuesday, 11 February 2014 07:17 (ten years ago) link
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BgvmTFlCMAA52vl.jpg
― polyphonic, Wednesday, 19 February 2014 00:10 (ten years ago) link
lmao
WS the hell out of the girl on the left tho
― k3vin k., Wednesday, 19 February 2014 00:14 (ten years ago) link
I really dont get why people dont go nuts on the daily doubles. I thought the point of this game was to win money yall.
― panettone for the painfully alone (mayor jingleberries), Wednesday, 19 February 2014 01:44 (ten years ago) link
haha yeah I kinda always mark someone for a doomed loser when they're sorta behind, or even when they're sorta ahead, and they get a Daily Double and bet a thousand when they could bet two or three. IMO they tend to get the question right, and lose the game. I can totally see making that same mistake in person - it's hard to overcome a lifetime of cautious instincts and remember that you must win the game or it's not real money, and always go big. I mean unless it's a category you just know jack shit about, fucking go for it, the main obstacle on the other questions is not having time to think and come up with it.
― Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 19 February 2014 02:52 (ten years ago) link
Extensive (and kind of fascinating) interview with Arthur Chu:http://www.avclub.com/article/controversial-jeopardy-champ-arthur-chu-tells-his--201355
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 24 February 2014 15:09 (ten years ago) link
Arthur will be back on today for those who have wanted to watch.
― justfanoe (Greg Fanoe), Monday, 24 February 2014 15:14 (ten years ago) link
thanks, i forgot about this
― Nhex, Monday, 24 February 2014 15:18 (ten years ago) link
loving that interview on the avclub
― Nhex, Monday, 24 February 2014 15:26 (ten years ago) link
Yeah, I dug this:
I think I mentioned that I have some experience as an actor, and I was like, “I’m going to be playing a role and that role is of an unstoppable Jeopardy! champion.”
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 24 February 2014 15:27 (ten years ago) link
You have no idea that Jeopardy! picks the top 5 percent of telegenic appeal from their pool. I was probably one of those super awkward people. My glasses were crooked, and I stammered and stumbled a lot my first audition. And I didn’t get called. I don’t know that that’s why, but I was like, “Next time I’ve got to prepare like it’s a real audition.” Since then, I’d done some more community theater
― PSY talks The Nut Job (forksclovetofu), Monday, 24 February 2014 15:30 (ten years ago) link
he won again btw
― frogbs, Tuesday, 25 February 2014 16:27 (ten years ago) link
yup, he blew 'em away
― Nhex, Tuesday, 25 February 2014 16:31 (ten years ago) link
I don't know how the taping schedule went, but I have to wonder if last night's episode was taped after the controversy took off. There was just something a little winking or snarky in the way Alex introduced him by talking about his winning streak before adding "and that's all you need to know about him."
― Inside Lewellyn Sinclair (cryptosicko), Tuesday, 25 February 2014 16:34 (ten years ago) link
i think they were filmed last week or the week before, so probably. in that AV Club interview he mentions he already taped this week of shows (without saying how far he got)
― Nhex, Tuesday, 25 February 2014 16:38 (ten years ago) link
AVClub interview also points out (iirc) that beyond being a strategy, tieng in Final Jeopardy lets the two tieing players each take home a pile of cash, vs. the typical winner takes all, loser gets a couple of grand system.
It was a great interview all around. For an awkward nerd or whatever, this dude sure knows how to work the press. I wonder if he googled that, too?
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 25 February 2014 16:54 (ten years ago) link
doesn't seem like he's that awkward at all, just a dude who knows how to use self-deprecating humor and wants to work his 15 minutes for all they're worth
― frogbs, Tuesday, 25 February 2014 16:58 (ten years ago) link
Well, in the interview he gives lots of reasons why someone might seem awkward, not least that Jeopardy! culls the most photogenic 5% from a pool of the nerdiest nerds in the nation, but also that everyone is exhausted and nervous and not operating at 100%. Also he says he was so focused on his strategy he pretty much ignored about how he may or may not be coming across. He's been pretty consistent: you're there to win. Everything else is a distraction.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 25 February 2014 17:03 (ten years ago) link
Awkward on the show, I should have stressed. Every interview comments on what a nice, normal dude he seems irl, at odds with his Jeopardy! performance.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 25 February 2014 17:04 (ten years ago) link
I mean he's right in that it's similar to how people tend to judge a man's character by what he does on the football field, for instance. Few people look totally comfortable on Jeopardy - well maybe Ken Jennings by his 30th episode
― frogbs, Tuesday, 25 February 2014 17:06 (ten years ago) link
i remembered to watch tonight!!
― Mordy , Thursday, 27 February 2014 00:18 (ten years ago) link
does he always dominate this dramatically?
― Mordy , Thursday, 27 February 2014 00:20 (ten years ago) link
spoiler alert dude, cmon
― Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 27 February 2014 00:22 (ten years ago) link
oops sorry!
― Mordy , Thursday, 27 February 2014 00:22 (ten years ago) link
7pm jeopardy ppl are the worst
― Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 27 February 2014 00:23 (ten years ago) link
Man, it's been forever, but I want to say it comes on at like 4 or 5 here. Maybe that was just in the Oprah era.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 27 February 2014 01:18 (ten years ago) link
Trebek compared him to Ken Jennings today. I can only hope!!! (I don't understand this dude's status as a "Jeopardy villain", but the very idea of a "Jeopardy villain" is entertaining)
― frogbs, Thursday, 27 February 2014 02:34 (ten years ago) link
aw crap, i fell asleep and forgot. must remember tomorrow
― Nhex, Thursday, 27 February 2014 03:03 (ten years ago) link
def in favor of game show villainy: "if i win this episode, three audience will not make it home today
your move, trebek"
― rhyme heals all goons (m bison), Thursday, 27 February 2014 03:04 (ten years ago) link
*audience membersfuck i cant even do my shitty sub-custos shit anymore
He's up by something ridiculous like 10 grand after the first round. His opponents' attempts at beating him with his strategy are pointless and futile.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 28 February 2014 00:43 (ten years ago) link
Hilarious. When he's winning by over double the next opponent, there's basically no point in even doing Final Jeopardy, right? (I believe in this case it was 44K to 6K!)
― Nhex, Friday, 28 February 2014 00:45 (ten years ago) link
He kinda wussed out by not going for the one-day record tonight. But then again, I would have too.
― Inside Lewellyn Sinclair (cryptosicko), Friday, 28 February 2014 04:04 (ten years ago) link
I did love how Trebek blatantly egged him on there to go for that bet, since if he lost it, it would've given the others a chance (he would have had to bet about 30K?) to win. But we all knew he would make the smart play
― Nhex, Friday, 28 February 2014 04:38 (ten years ago) link
And how the producers apparently corrected Alex during the break to let him know that he was $2000 off. I wonder if they let Chu know that before he laid down his wager.
― Inside Lewellyn Sinclair (cryptosicko), Friday, 28 February 2014 04:40 (ten years ago) link
*$200 off
actually if he had gone for the record and missed he still would have won by a mile.
― fact checking cuz, Friday, 28 February 2014 06:00 (ten years ago) link
that's true - he would have had to lose AND the second place winner would have had to bet it all and won (doubling her $6K to $12K, and Chu would go from $44K to about 11K)
― Nhex, Friday, 28 February 2014 06:21 (ten years ago) link
http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/2014/02/28/arthur_chu_jeopardy_s_reigning_champion_talks_to_ken_jennings_about_the.html
― iatee, Friday, 28 February 2014 15:54 (ten years ago) link
yeah caught the end of last night w/ trebek egging him on and chu not taking the bait
― balls, Friday, 28 February 2014 16:02 (ten years ago) link
Pure badass. I love this guy
― PSY talks The Nut Job (forksclovetofu), Friday, 28 February 2014 16:14 (ten years ago) link
The one thing I do think is a negative thing where I wish I hadn’t done it was “cutting off Alex,” which is what I think gets people most riled up—but of course that’s what you’re likely to do when you’re in the zone and already thinking about jumping to the next clue. Problem is Alex kind of chooses the points at which he makes a little comment or joke about a question at semi-random, sparse intervals so it’s hard to predict when he’s going to do it— people accidentally “cut him off” on the show even when they aren’t all hyped-up and intense like I was. It’s something I would be more careful about if I could do it again, though, because I do think interrupting/talking over someone truly is rude in a way that just being intense and abrupt isn’t.
uh oh
― k3vin k., Friday, 28 February 2014 16:24 (ten years ago) link
Pretty sure that interview happened after his first week of shows, during the break when there were a bunch of tournaments.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 28 February 2014 16:29 (ten years ago) link
And yeah, one of the things that embitters me is that the entire Television Without Pity “brand” is now tarnished for me.
He should consider that a blessing. TWP has been ass for years now.
― Mordy , Friday, 28 February 2014 16:30 (ten years ago) link
Chu already seems a lot more "normal" in the second week, in terms of appearance/mannerisms
― Nhex, Friday, 28 February 2014 16:33 (ten years ago) link
I hadn't seen the obnoxious anti-Chu tweets featured in the Slate article, but no surprise that people are morons. LOL @ Chu-phoria
― Nhex, Friday, 28 February 2014 16:58 (ten years ago) link
Last night was the first time watching Jeopardy since Ken Jennings. I'm all in with this dude.
― Spottie, Friday, 28 February 2014 17:00 (ten years ago) link
I learned a new word today: whizbo
― frogbs, Friday, 28 February 2014 17:00 (ten years ago) link
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/style-blog/wp/2014/02/27/why-were-actually-mad-at-jeopardy-villain-arthur-chu/
Chu’s strategy wasn’t part of some long-brewing master plan, but simply the result of some Googling. He did some searching once he found out he would appear on the show and was inspired by what discovered about Chuck Forrest, a 1985 contestant whose similar Daily Double hunting even earned a phrase to describe his method of play, the “Forrest Bounce.”
― curmudgeon, Friday, 28 February 2014 17:06 (ten years ago) link