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watching some re-runs has convinced me that this show really was very good once.

i have no time to write more now, but i would like to hear some opinions on the show's strengths and weaknesses.

at what point did it tail off? where should they have stopped?

weasel diesel (K1l14n), Friday, 1 October 2004 15:50 (sixteen years ago) link

God the show was great until about season 4 or 5. The conspiracy-arc episodes started meandering and it became clear they were basically making it up as they went along.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Friday, 1 October 2004 15:59 (sixteen years ago) link

it got crap when it all became about the conspiracy stuff and there were never any episodes where they just went and did cases.

there are still some great episodes though.

Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 1 October 2004 16:00 (sixteen years ago) link

What was that one where they investigated some inbreeding freaks who had been burying their kids in the yard and it turned out the lady of the house had spawned the child of satan or something?

nickalicious (nickalicious), Friday, 1 October 2004 16:01 (sixteen years ago) link

THAT ONE WAS NASTY!!!

n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 1 October 2004 16:01 (sixteen years ago) link

Ah, that would be 'Home', from Season 4. Classic episode, really creepy.

My favorite episode is "Jose Chung's from Outer Space" (from season 3), which is as close as the X-files got to portraying the absurdity of the UFO phenomenon.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Friday, 1 October 2004 16:02 (sixteen years ago) link

I liked the one with the Chinese guys gambling off their organs.

n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 1 October 2004 16:03 (sixteen years ago) link

"Blood Money", season 3 i believe.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Friday, 1 October 2004 16:11 (sixteen years ago) link

Nickalicious that was the exact episode I was going to mention!

Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 1 October 2004 16:12 (sixteen years ago) link

carter used to write many episdoes the night before or the morning of shooting. i think i prefer the mark frost/carter episodes, the non alien cases

kephm (kephm), Friday, 1 October 2004 16:16 (sixteen years ago) link

i like the alien/ufo episodes in the first three seasons, but after that it's like, "wtf?"

latebloomer (latebloomer), Friday, 1 October 2004 16:20 (sixteen years ago) link

That one episode just REALLY sticks out to me among all of those one-off storylines, which are probably all my favs in retrospect.

The whole tying-loose-threads-together way they began down the alien conspiracy route actually totally drew me in, it was when they started answering the questions I got tired of it. They should've just left it perpetually open-ended or something.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Friday, 1 October 2004 16:21 (sixteen years ago) link

The vampire episode with Luke Wilson.

Gold Teeth II (kenan), Friday, 1 October 2004 16:22 (sixteen years ago) link

Oh, and that one where they inhaled those spores that made them hallucinate and then the ground ate them or something, that was a good one too.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Friday, 1 October 2004 16:25 (sixteen years ago) link

"Field Day" from Season 6.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Friday, 1 October 2004 16:31 (sixteen years ago) link

Or "Field Trip", not sure.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Friday, 1 October 2004 16:36 (sixteen years ago) link

What was the one about the teen who was a human-insiect hybrid who could control insects with his pheremones?

Dan Perry '08 (Dan Perry), Friday, 1 October 2004 16:38 (sixteen years ago) link

i love the pizza boy vampire, hotel massage-bed one!

and jack black was in one, can't remember. why is the dvd set like 1/2 my paycheck?

kephm (kephm), Friday, 1 October 2004 16:49 (sixteen years ago) link

Started to go downhill right after the movie - they went mersh and dumbed down the whole thing. Then Duchovny left, and after that it was like "why bother?"

The finale was one of the most unspectacular things I've ever seen.

Joshua Houk (chascarrillo), Saturday, 2 October 2004 02:56 (sixteen years ago) link

Another TV show where it was better left open-ended as nickalicious said, exactly like Twin Peaks. Oh how I long for back in the day, when popular TV was delightfully wacky!

lemin (lemin), Saturday, 2 October 2004 05:00 (sixteen years ago) link

The show was great as long as it was in Vancouver. When Mr Red Shoes forced them to move to LA it lost a lot of the atmosphere for a nicer shine. It's quite noticable in the lighting, the use of sharp lines was basically eliminated.

Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Saturday, 2 October 2004 14:15 (sixteen years ago) link

The Lone Gunmen, they were fucking rubbish, weren't they?

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Saturday, 2 October 2004 15:13 (sixteen years ago) link

well they were ok when they were kept as minor characters who would be on once in a while. but just as in "the simpsons", once the producers recognized the popularity of the characters among fans they decided to make them into obnoxious regulars.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Saturday, 2 October 2004 16:01 (sixteen years ago) link

did anyone actually watch their spinoff? I loved the X-Files and even I didn't watch it

kyle (akmonday), Saturday, 2 October 2004 16:03 (sixteen years ago) link

X-Files is a show that I liked in theory better than in practice - good premise, good characters, great actors, technically flawless. I would watch the odd episode and think "this is really good, why don't I watch it more often?" Then I'd tune in a month or two later, be completely baffled as to where the story arc had gone, and tune out again in frustration. This happened during pretty much every season that the show was aired.

Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Saturday, 2 October 2004 16:41 (sixteen years ago) link

Never watched in it's heyday, but we're renting alkl the DVD is sequence now. Actually, season 2 disc 4 is in the player right now. I absolutely love them, at least the first two seasons. About 85% of the episodes are total gold; there's the occasional filler, but it's excuseable for brilliant eps. like "Erlenmeyer Flask", "Darkness Falls", "Eve", "Duane Barry/Ascension".

I'm dreading watching the season 6(was it?) move to California; we live in vancouver, and half the fun is identifying the locations (that's the rogers tower in burnaby! that's in gastown! it's the art gallery! stanley park!).

derrick (derrick), Saturday, 2 October 2004 19:16 (sixteen years ago) link

I watched the show and was hooked right from the beginning (the third episode, "squeeze" actually), so I guess I always had somewhat of an emotional investment in it.

As for the story arc I have a feeling Chris Carter originally had a rough plan or idea of where he wanted it to go, (I think I even remember him around '95 or so saying he wanted the show to last about five years and then do movies or spinoffs after that). But as the show got more popular, there was pressure to keep it going and drag it out, so the conspiracy-arc episodes started becoming more labyrynthine and covoluted.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Saturday, 2 October 2004 19:26 (sixteen years ago) link

one year passes...
So it is time for ironic hipster reevaluation of this show yet or is it too soon?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 00:39 (fourteen years ago) link

It's still great and don't kid yourself Nef. Though the most shocking thing I've noticed is how horribly dressed Scully was in the whole first season.

Rufus 3000 (Mr Noodles), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 01:17 (fourteen years ago) link

Good ol' Nef.

I actually didn't watch the show all that much but always liked it whenever I caught it, so maybe I lucked out with the episodes. And the movie was all right.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 01:19 (fourteen years ago) link

Sorry Ned, so used to typing Newf the f just slipped.

Rufus 3000 (Mr Noodles), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 01:21 (fourteen years ago) link

Hahah

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 01:23 (fourteen years ago) link

My wife and daughter are steadily plowing through the first six seasons. I sit in occasionally if an episode is playing during dinner, but it's just nonstop Mulder and Scully taking turns playing Basil Exposition, except when Scully is screeching at Mulder for whatever he believes in.

Whitman Mayonnaise (Rock Hardy), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 01:30 (fourteen years ago) link

Favorites: Bad Blood (vampire story from differing perspectives of Scully and Mulder, Small Potatoes (guy who can change his face to look like anyone, basically), and the episode where Scully and Mulder pretend to be "Rob and Laura Petrie" and they live in some kind of seriously screwed up townhouse/condo association (especially since I lived in a townhouse association at the time).

First episode I ever saw was called Revelations, I think and it scared the holy hell out of me. I didn't watch the show for a couple of years because I kept thinking of the tagline, "the truth is out there..." and then thinking, "but hell if I want to know what it is!" Eventually I was pulled into it, though.

Sara R-C (Sara R-C), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 01:55 (fourteen years ago) link

rewatching the mythology episodes on the DVD sets i bought (yeah i'm die hard), the conspiracy arc actually makes A LOT more sense, especially when viewed together rather than spread across several seasons. i mean, it still got sillier as the show got older, but it was a lot more coherent than it seemed.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 02:25 (fourteen years ago) link

No, no it wasn't. The pinnacle of "god, this shit is awful" for me was when they reveal the truth about Mulder's sister to the tunes of Moby.

taco freebie (mike h.), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 03:13 (fourteen years ago) link

Please tell me it was '1000'.

Search: Seasons 1&2, particulary the three parter at the end of season 2 and the start of season 3. All epsiodes written by Darin Morgan: Humbug, Clyde Bruckman's Final Repose, War Of The Coprophages, Jose Chung's From Outer Space (or, the Freaks one, the Psychics one, the Cockroaches one, the Alex Trebek one)

Destroy: the rest of it, more so as it goes on.

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 05:22 (fourteen years ago) link

I actually really liked the Mulder's sister bit with the Moby song :(

Trayce (trayce), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 05:29 (fourteen years ago) link

it was powerful and moving!

Konal Doddz (blueski), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 08:22 (fourteen years ago) link

I heard that Burt Reynolds one is really good.

Konal Doddz (blueski), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 08:24 (fourteen years ago) link

Damon Lindelof is ALWAYS remarking on how he doesn't want LOST to go the way of the X-Files. He wants to end it after 4 or 5 seasons, then have a film. But then, it's ABC's choice if they want to milk/ruin it by dragging it out to 9+ seasons.

the doaple gonger (nickalicious), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 13:51 (fourteen years ago) link

worst series finale ever?

s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 13:52 (fourteen years ago) link

no, it was excellent in parts (OK maybe just the gratuitious CSM death scene payoff).

Konal Doddz (blueski), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 14:07 (fourteen years ago) link

I loved this when it first began (definite x-phile) but by the end was completely turned-off.

Have yet to buy the DVDs but when I moved in with my boyfriend he made me THROW AWAY my dozens and dozens of carefully recorded and labeled seasons 1-4 VHS tapes. *sob*

S-I liked the tooms episodes and pretty much any of the earlier ones written by morgan/wong

D-any later eps with those other two agents. I don't even remeber their names that's how much I hated them.

Ms. Misery TX (MissMiseryTX), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 14:15 (fourteen years ago) link

Was there a self-parody episode with Cher in it? I remember something, but not sure.

Also a question for die-hard fans: is it necessary to watch all the mythology episodes before watching the movie?

scnnr drkly (scnnr drkly), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 14:26 (fourteen years ago) link

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I too loved the Darin Morgan episodes. What happened to him? Has he written for anything else ever again.

I really liked the COPS crossover where the tv crew following some cops around LA walk slap bang into the middle of an X File.

And my heart still belongs to Gillian Anderson who, judging from her turn in Bleak House, has aged like a fine wine...

Stone Monkey (Stone Monkey), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 14:42 (fourteen years ago) link

Robert Patrick/Doggett is unfairly maligned.

Konal Doddz (blueski), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 14:44 (fourteen years ago) link

god, this is ages ago isn't it? Trying to remember movie. I think you don't need to watch the mythology. Too many non-regular viewers went to it, surely? Need to netflix this.

I loved the episode where the Jim Rose Circus starred as a freak show. Mulder has so many great one-liners.

Who's been to an X-Files convention? *raises then puts down hand in shame*

Ms. Misery TX (MissMiseryTX), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 15:04 (fourteen years ago) link

Robert Patrick/Doggett is unfairly maligned.

I hated him on the x-files only because I kept wishing he'd turn into the T1000.

Roz (Roz), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 15:11 (fourteen years ago) link

i was hoping one day Moronica would mention that an alien super soldier had been sighted at the local mall and he'd be able to ask "THE GALLERIA?!"

Konal Doddz (blueski), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 15:14 (fourteen years ago) link

not quite that, but it was about 5 minutes out of a 43-minute episode... one thing I've found funny about rewatching this show in the present is how much the dialog (which seemed perfectly modern in the 90s) now sounds like something out of a 50s b-movie... like from Quagmire, you have the frog scientist during the opening scene portentously shouting "don't turn your back on nature... or nature will turn its back on you!"

so tonight that I might ramona quimby (f. hazel), Friday, 12 March 2021 15:55 (three months ago) link

After two decades of 24/Bourne/SEAL Team/et al. the MP SWAT team in the second episode looks like a group of high school kids playing paintball.

Joe Bombin (milo z), Friday, 12 March 2021 17:47 (three months ago) link

I haven't watched the show since the original run, so I was startled by how great the remastered episodes look on a 21st century television ... it's made a pleasing contrast to my trek through the sub-VHS blur of Dark Shadows c. 1969

Brad C., Friday, 12 March 2021 17:57 (three months ago) link

yeah its gorgeous

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 12 March 2021 18:47 (three months ago) link

i am only 2 episodes in but the s1e2 Deep Throat ep was such a great fever-dream of alien conspiracy tropes. it’s like watching reddit being born lol (but in a good way)

also: Seth Green :D

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 12 March 2021 18:50 (three months ago) link

I’d add Terms of Endearment as a S6 ep worth watching.

Perhaps a more controversial choice would be The Field Where I Died from S4. Widely disliked when it came out, but some, me included, have grown to love it.

Badlaa is one of the better examples of a bad XF episode - so many things wrong with it, but it still manages to be pretty enjoyable!

Duane Barry, Saturday, 13 March 2021 01:22 (three months ago) link

A really controversial choice is S7's Sein und Zeit/Closure, where Mulder's mom dies by suicide and Mulder hugs Samantha's ghost in a field while Moby appropriates a traditional Melanesian song in the background. Many people hate it; I think it's clumsy but also quite beautiful, and anchored by really solid acting from Duchovny.

Lily Dale, Saturday, 13 March 2021 01:34 (three months ago) link

awww forgot about babyface Donal Logue

Joe Bombin (milo z), Saturday, 13 March 2021 01:55 (three months ago) link

at my office we printed out a copy of the homeless person's drawing and use it to surprise and annoy our co-workers by acting like there's some important document we need them to see and then showing them that.

this keeps popping up in my mind and cracking me up

Piven After Midnight (The Yellow Kid), Saturday, 13 March 2021 03:59 (three months ago) link

https://i.redd.it/ghb7efs8ix351.jpg

Stefan Twerkelle (Old Lunch), Saturday, 13 March 2021 04:56 (three months ago) link

Sorry to spoil that the Jersey Devil is actually Ric Ocasek

Stefan Twerkelle (Old Lunch), Saturday, 13 March 2021 04:59 (three months ago) link

My house rewatch just got to Season 4, which means we got to watch the scene where Mulder dumps gasoline all over his head and into his eyes and then is like, "You'll have to lead me! I can't see!"

Lily Dale, Saturday, 13 March 2021 18:21 (three months ago) link

First absolute dog of an episode, episode 9, "Space."

Joe Bombin (milo z), Monday, 15 March 2021 03:27 (three months ago) link

We watched ep3 tonight - “Squeeze”
TOOOOOOOOMS D:

First Morgan & Wong-penned episode! first flashlight scene! the dialogue feels noticeably snappier in places, some v good laugh out loud lines (“what’s the quickest way to get this off me without betraying my cool-guy exterior”)

I lovw how the mythology of Tooms is laid out with ~just~ enough breadcrumbs - bitsized info to make it creepy & wtf but no deepdive attempt at explanation to take you out of it.

Still as creepy as the first time I saw it. Maybe even more so now since it was established that Doug Hutchinson is an irl actual creep.

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 15 March 2021 05:02 (three months ago) link

Squeeze! I love that the first monster-of-the-week episode is such a good one. Is that the one that also has the Mulder line, "Sometimes the need to mess with their heads outweighs the millstone of humiliation?"

I noticed at some point that Mick Jagger on the Ed Sullivan Show looks freakishly like Tooms when he's just about to eat a liver, and now I can't unsee it. Look at him around the 20-second mark:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ANhU4AcK04

Lily Dale, Monday, 15 March 2021 05:52 (three months ago) link

SCULLY: You're so consumed by your personal vengeance against life, whether it be its inherent cruelties or mysteries, everything takes on a warped significance to fit your megalomaniacal cosmology.

MULDER: Scully, are you coming on to me?

intern at pepe le pew research (Simon H.), Monday, 15 March 2021 12:46 (three months ago) link

four weeks pass...

milo otm re S1E9 Space

definitely a dud. even as a space nerd, i was trying to find something to like about it but it’s just so “...huh”?

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 12 April 2021 05:29 (two months ago) link

Yeah if I remember it just blunders on and nothing really great happens. A shame because I like the actor who plays the astronaut hero, Ed something? (fuck google imo)

Diggin Holes (Ste), Monday, 12 April 2021 11:31 (two months ago) link

oh Ed Lauter, remember him from Family Plot

Diggin Holes (Ste), Monday, 12 April 2021 11:34 (two months ago) link

three weeks pass...

In the second half of Duane Barry/Ascension, Krycek pistol whips the tram operator and temporarily stops the tram, Mulder never asks what happened with the tram and somehow the operator doesn’t complain to anyone?

Joe Bombin (milo z), Sunday, 9 May 2021 04:16 (one month ago) link

three weeks pass...

Season 4 with all the conspiracy stuff leading into cancer stuff is kind of a drag.

Joe Bombin (milo z), Saturday, 5 June 2021 04:34 (two weeks ago) link

I think some of the conspiracy episodes that season are highlights - the black oil one where everyone is constantly beating up Krycek is pretty fun, and the UFO/plane crash episodes are really well done if completely bonkers. The cancer stuff is a drag, and there are an awful lot of flat and depressing monster-of-the-weeks that I never feel compelled to rewatch. And there’s the chupacabra episode.

JoeStork, Saturday, 5 June 2021 05:43 (two weeks ago) link

Watching two a night instead of one a week, the clash between conspiracy-then we're just FBI agents checkin' out a case-never mention that cult that committed mass suicide again-back to conspiracy is jarring.

Joe Bombin (milo z), Saturday, 5 June 2021 16:19 (two weeks ago) link

The chupacabra episode was the least offensive of the run of 'exploring other cultures' episodes but I'm so happy that I'm past almost all of them.

Joe Bombin (milo z), Saturday, 5 June 2021 16:20 (two weeks ago) link

I do find some of the S4 conspiracy episodes a bit aimless and boring (just wait until you get to Redux in S5!), but really like Tempus Fugit/Max, partly because it has an actual narrative and feels coherent, and has some good characters.

Leonard Betts was one of the best XF monsters-of-the-week. He's essentially another Tooms/2Shy variant, but a sympathetic one. Teliko is a bit rubbish though.

The Chupacabra episode was commonly known as "El Mucho Sucko" back in the day

Duane Barry, Saturday, 5 June 2021 21:06 (two weeks ago) link

I like Tempus Fugit/ Max as well, and I'm not usually a fan of the conspiracy episodes. I love the opening scene in the bar with the keychain; it might be the warmest, most natural Mulder & Scully hanging out scene in the whole show.

Lily Dale, Saturday, 5 June 2021 22:11 (two weeks ago) link

I just started rewatching this last night and was trying to decide if I should try to slog through every episode or be more selective. I guess I might as well go for it, at least to begin with.

MrDasher, Saturday, 5 June 2021 22:14 (two weeks ago) link

xp I did a season 4 rewatch a while back and I agree that season is all over the place. some really high highs and really low lows. Where are you in the season now?

Lily Dale, Saturday, 5 June 2021 22:58 (two weeks ago) link

Just before Tempus Fugit. Leonard Betts was great, and I liked the Scully tattoo episode of the last few.

Joe Bombin (milo z), Saturday, 5 June 2021 23:11 (two weeks ago) link

The Lone Gunmen recounting the supposed life of the Cigarette Smoking Man is another highlight. What if George HW Bush was also a frustrated action novelist?

Joe Bombin (milo z), Saturday, 5 June 2021 23:19 (two weeks ago) link

Well, at least George W. finally got to paint dogs and wounded veterans from his wars (also interviewed them, I think)(the veterans, not the dogs?)

dow, Saturday, 5 June 2021 23:56 (two weeks ago) link

Which reminds me, I liked the episode that told how Scully got her dog.

dow, Saturday, 5 June 2021 23:58 (two weeks ago) link

The dog getting eaten also A+.

Joe Bombin (milo z), Saturday, 5 June 2021 23:59 (two weeks ago) link

I guess that 'queg getting eaten

bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Sunday, 6 June 2021 00:16 (two weeks ago) link

One in between: Mulder peeking in Scully's (motel?) window, sees her blowdrying dog, big cig hanging out of her mouth, near the doggie.

dow, Sunday, 6 June 2021 00:19 (two weeks ago) link

The chupacabra episode was the least offensive of the run of 'exploring other cultures' episodes but I'm so happy that I'm past almost all of them.

― Joe Bombin (milo z), Saturday, June 5, 2021 9:20 AM (two days ago) bookmarkflaglink

They're all awful but the Chinese one is probably the most offensive.

《Myst1kOblivi0n》 (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 8 June 2021 02:21 (two weeks ago) link

I find the chupacabra one to be one of the worst because of the "it's a telenovela!" conceit. It wouldn't be quite so bad if everyone was acting like a telenovela character, including Mulder and Scully, but Mulder and Scully are acting like their normal selves (though more callous than usual), so you end up with all the Latinx characters being hyper-emotional and melodramatic and Mulder and Scully making fun of them.

Lily Dale, Tuesday, 8 June 2021 02:41 (two weeks ago) link

The effects in the Inca episode have not aged well.

Kaddish was pretty bad as well.

Joe Bombin (milo z), Tuesday, 8 June 2021 02:48 (two weeks ago) link

The Duchovny-directed ‘wot if Jackie Robinson was an alien’ episode is still to come.

Joe Bombin (milo z), Tuesday, 8 June 2021 02:51 (two weeks ago) link

Kaddish didn't bother me as much for some reason; it struck me as pretty respectful if a bit flat story-wise, but then I am the most non-practicing of Jews so it's not my area of expertise.

Lily Dale, Tuesday, 8 June 2021 02:53 (two weeks ago) link

I’m curious if they actually thought Roma was just short for Romanian in the cursed stillborn twin episode.

Joe Bombin (milo z), Tuesday, 8 June 2021 02:56 (two weeks ago) link

xp and Duchovny-written, right? I actually like that one in spite of myself. It's just such an accurate and loving pastiche of the whole baseball movie genre, I can't not like it despite its obvious flaws.

Lily Dale, Tuesday, 8 June 2021 02:57 (two weeks ago) link

yeah, written too. that one mainly comes off as Duchovny being well-meaning but cheesy and doofy in many directions at once

his later meta-satirical ep w/ Garry Shandling and Tea Leoni is similarly unfocused but much better

bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Tuesday, 8 June 2021 03:21 (two weeks ago) link

The thing I really like about the Duchov-written episodes is that they aren't Mulder-centric and they show a very warm and funny and charming side of Scully. I'm sure he's a tool in real life, but as a writer/director of the X-Files he does not make it all about him and I appreciate that.

Lily Dale, Tuesday, 8 June 2021 03:46 (two weeks ago) link

I wish beefier douchebag Californication Duchovny wasn't the image that popped into my head of him vs. Mulder.

Joe Bombin (milo z), Tuesday, 8 June 2021 05:34 (two weeks ago) link

Was watching rando old eps but then my gf decided she just wanted to full-on rewatch so I guess that's what's happening now!

Anyway, 'Beyond the Sea' just never gets any less good.

Jerome Percival Jesus (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 8 June 2021 13:55 (two weeks ago) link

this week (for no particular reason) I was thinking of Duchovny saying he realized he wasn't cut out for Lit Scholarship while listening to Naomi Wolff speaking in Howard Bloom's class

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Tuesday, 8 June 2021 14:40 (two weeks ago) link

Post-modern Prometheus - just a wee bit problematic

Joe Bombin (milo z), Wednesday, 16 June 2021 19:59 (one week ago) link

Problematic and (challops alert!) not actually good

Jerome Percival Jesus (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 16 June 2021 20:14 (one week ago) link

It looks good and has some fun moments (the cuts between townspeople and their animal parents) but you’re not wrong.

Joe Bombin (milo z), Wednesday, 16 June 2021 20:25 (one week ago) link


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