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watching some re-runs has convinced me that this show really was very good once.

i have no time to write more now, but i would like to hear some opinions on the show's strengths and weaknesses.

at what point did it tail off? where should they have stopped?

weasel diesel (K1l14n), Friday, 1 October 2004 15:50 (sixteen years ago) link

God the show was great until about season 4 or 5. The conspiracy-arc episodes started meandering and it became clear they were basically making it up as they went along.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Friday, 1 October 2004 15:59 (sixteen years ago) link

it got crap when it all became about the conspiracy stuff and there were never any episodes where they just went and did cases.

there are still some great episodes though.

Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 1 October 2004 16:00 (sixteen years ago) link

What was that one where they investigated some inbreeding freaks who had been burying their kids in the yard and it turned out the lady of the house had spawned the child of satan or something?

nickalicious (nickalicious), Friday, 1 October 2004 16:01 (sixteen years ago) link

THAT ONE WAS NASTY!!!

n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 1 October 2004 16:01 (sixteen years ago) link

Ah, that would be 'Home', from Season 4. Classic episode, really creepy.

My favorite episode is "Jose Chung's from Outer Space" (from season 3), which is as close as the X-files got to portraying the absurdity of the UFO phenomenon.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Friday, 1 October 2004 16:02 (sixteen years ago) link

I liked the one with the Chinese guys gambling off their organs.

n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 1 October 2004 16:03 (sixteen years ago) link

"Blood Money", season 3 i believe.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Friday, 1 October 2004 16:11 (sixteen years ago) link

Nickalicious that was the exact episode I was going to mention!

Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 1 October 2004 16:12 (sixteen years ago) link

carter used to write many episdoes the night before or the morning of shooting. i think i prefer the mark frost/carter episodes, the non alien cases

kephm (kephm), Friday, 1 October 2004 16:16 (sixteen years ago) link

i like the alien/ufo episodes in the first three seasons, but after that it's like, "wtf?"

latebloomer (latebloomer), Friday, 1 October 2004 16:20 (sixteen years ago) link

That one episode just REALLY sticks out to me among all of those one-off storylines, which are probably all my favs in retrospect.

The whole tying-loose-threads-together way they began down the alien conspiracy route actually totally drew me in, it was when they started answering the questions I got tired of it. They should've just left it perpetually open-ended or something.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Friday, 1 October 2004 16:21 (sixteen years ago) link

The vampire episode with Luke Wilson.

Gold Teeth II (kenan), Friday, 1 October 2004 16:22 (sixteen years ago) link

Oh, and that one where they inhaled those spores that made them hallucinate and then the ground ate them or something, that was a good one too.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Friday, 1 October 2004 16:25 (sixteen years ago) link

"Field Day" from Season 6.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Friday, 1 October 2004 16:31 (sixteen years ago) link

Or "Field Trip", not sure.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Friday, 1 October 2004 16:36 (sixteen years ago) link

What was the one about the teen who was a human-insiect hybrid who could control insects with his pheremones?

Dan Perry '08 (Dan Perry), Friday, 1 October 2004 16:38 (sixteen years ago) link

i love the pizza boy vampire, hotel massage-bed one!

and jack black was in one, can't remember. why is the dvd set like 1/2 my paycheck?

kephm (kephm), Friday, 1 October 2004 16:49 (sixteen years ago) link

Started to go downhill right after the movie - they went mersh and dumbed down the whole thing. Then Duchovny left, and after that it was like "why bother?"

The finale was one of the most unspectacular things I've ever seen.

Joshua Houk (chascarrillo), Saturday, 2 October 2004 02:56 (sixteen years ago) link

Another TV show where it was better left open-ended as nickalicious said, exactly like Twin Peaks. Oh how I long for back in the day, when popular TV was delightfully wacky!

lemin (lemin), Saturday, 2 October 2004 05:00 (sixteen years ago) link

The show was great as long as it was in Vancouver. When Mr Red Shoes forced them to move to LA it lost a lot of the atmosphere for a nicer shine. It's quite noticable in the lighting, the use of sharp lines was basically eliminated.

Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Saturday, 2 October 2004 14:15 (sixteen years ago) link

The Lone Gunmen, they were fucking rubbish, weren't they?

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Saturday, 2 October 2004 15:13 (sixteen years ago) link

well they were ok when they were kept as minor characters who would be on once in a while. but just as in "the simpsons", once the producers recognized the popularity of the characters among fans they decided to make them into obnoxious regulars.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Saturday, 2 October 2004 16:01 (sixteen years ago) link

did anyone actually watch their spinoff? I loved the X-Files and even I didn't watch it

kyle (akmonday), Saturday, 2 October 2004 16:03 (sixteen years ago) link

X-Files is a show that I liked in theory better than in practice - good premise, good characters, great actors, technically flawless. I would watch the odd episode and think "this is really good, why don't I watch it more often?" Then I'd tune in a month or two later, be completely baffled as to where the story arc had gone, and tune out again in frustration. This happened during pretty much every season that the show was aired.

Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Saturday, 2 October 2004 16:41 (sixteen years ago) link

Never watched in it's heyday, but we're renting alkl the DVD is sequence now. Actually, season 2 disc 4 is in the player right now. I absolutely love them, at least the first two seasons. About 85% of the episodes are total gold; there's the occasional filler, but it's excuseable for brilliant eps. like "Erlenmeyer Flask", "Darkness Falls", "Eve", "Duane Barry/Ascension".

I'm dreading watching the season 6(was it?) move to California; we live in vancouver, and half the fun is identifying the locations (that's the rogers tower in burnaby! that's in gastown! it's the art gallery! stanley park!).

derrick (derrick), Saturday, 2 October 2004 19:16 (sixteen years ago) link

I watched the show and was hooked right from the beginning (the third episode, "squeeze" actually), so I guess I always had somewhat of an emotional investment in it.

As for the story arc I have a feeling Chris Carter originally had a rough plan or idea of where he wanted it to go, (I think I even remember him around '95 or so saying he wanted the show to last about five years and then do movies or spinoffs after that). But as the show got more popular, there was pressure to keep it going and drag it out, so the conspiracy-arc episodes started becoming more labyrynthine and covoluted.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Saturday, 2 October 2004 19:26 (sixteen years ago) link

one year passes...
So it is time for ironic hipster reevaluation of this show yet or is it too soon?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 00:39 (fifteen years ago) link

It's still great and don't kid yourself Nef. Though the most shocking thing I've noticed is how horribly dressed Scully was in the whole first season.

Rufus 3000 (Mr Noodles), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 01:17 (fifteen years ago) link

Good ol' Nef.

I actually didn't watch the show all that much but always liked it whenever I caught it, so maybe I lucked out with the episodes. And the movie was all right.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 01:19 (fifteen years ago) link

Sorry Ned, so used to typing Newf the f just slipped.

Rufus 3000 (Mr Noodles), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 01:21 (fifteen years ago) link

Hahah

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 01:23 (fifteen years ago) link

My wife and daughter are steadily plowing through the first six seasons. I sit in occasionally if an episode is playing during dinner, but it's just nonstop Mulder and Scully taking turns playing Basil Exposition, except when Scully is screeching at Mulder for whatever he believes in.

Whitman Mayonnaise (Rock Hardy), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 01:30 (fifteen years ago) link

Favorites: Bad Blood (vampire story from differing perspectives of Scully and Mulder, Small Potatoes (guy who can change his face to look like anyone, basically), and the episode where Scully and Mulder pretend to be "Rob and Laura Petrie" and they live in some kind of seriously screwed up townhouse/condo association (especially since I lived in a townhouse association at the time).

First episode I ever saw was called Revelations, I think and it scared the holy hell out of me. I didn't watch the show for a couple of years because I kept thinking of the tagline, "the truth is out there..." and then thinking, "but hell if I want to know what it is!" Eventually I was pulled into it, though.

Sara R-C (Sara R-C), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 01:55 (fifteen years ago) link

rewatching the mythology episodes on the DVD sets i bought (yeah i'm die hard), the conspiracy arc actually makes A LOT more sense, especially when viewed together rather than spread across several seasons. i mean, it still got sillier as the show got older, but it was a lot more coherent than it seemed.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 02:25 (fifteen years ago) link

No, no it wasn't. The pinnacle of "god, this shit is awful" for me was when they reveal the truth about Mulder's sister to the tunes of Moby.

taco freebie (mike h.), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 03:13 (fifteen years ago) link

Please tell me it was '1000'.

Search: Seasons 1&2, particulary the three parter at the end of season 2 and the start of season 3. All epsiodes written by Darin Morgan: Humbug, Clyde Bruckman's Final Repose, War Of The Coprophages, Jose Chung's From Outer Space (or, the Freaks one, the Psychics one, the Cockroaches one, the Alex Trebek one)

Destroy: the rest of it, more so as it goes on.

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 05:22 (fifteen years ago) link

I actually really liked the Mulder's sister bit with the Moby song :(

Trayce (trayce), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 05:29 (fifteen years ago) link

it was powerful and moving!

Konal Doddz (blueski), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 08:22 (fifteen years ago) link

I heard that Burt Reynolds one is really good.

Konal Doddz (blueski), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 08:24 (fifteen years ago) link

Damon Lindelof is ALWAYS remarking on how he doesn't want LOST to go the way of the X-Files. He wants to end it after 4 or 5 seasons, then have a film. But then, it's ABC's choice if they want to milk/ruin it by dragging it out to 9+ seasons.

the doaple gonger (nickalicious), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 13:51 (fifteen years ago) link

worst series finale ever?

s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 13:52 (fifteen years ago) link

no, it was excellent in parts (OK maybe just the gratuitious CSM death scene payoff).

Konal Doddz (blueski), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 14:07 (fifteen years ago) link

I loved this when it first began (definite x-phile) but by the end was completely turned-off.

Have yet to buy the DVDs but when I moved in with my boyfriend he made me THROW AWAY my dozens and dozens of carefully recorded and labeled seasons 1-4 VHS tapes. *sob*

S-I liked the tooms episodes and pretty much any of the earlier ones written by morgan/wong

D-any later eps with those other two agents. I don't even remeber their names that's how much I hated them.

Ms. Misery TX (MissMiseryTX), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 14:15 (fifteen years ago) link

Was there a self-parody episode with Cher in it? I remember something, but not sure.

Also a question for die-hard fans: is it necessary to watch all the mythology episodes before watching the movie?

scnnr drkly (scnnr drkly), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 14:26 (fifteen years ago) link

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I too loved the Darin Morgan episodes. What happened to him? Has he written for anything else ever again.

I really liked the COPS crossover where the tv crew following some cops around LA walk slap bang into the middle of an X File.

And my heart still belongs to Gillian Anderson who, judging from her turn in Bleak House, has aged like a fine wine...

Stone Monkey (Stone Monkey), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 14:42 (fifteen years ago) link

Robert Patrick/Doggett is unfairly maligned.

Konal Doddz (blueski), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 14:44 (fifteen years ago) link

god, this is ages ago isn't it? Trying to remember movie. I think you don't need to watch the mythology. Too many non-regular viewers went to it, surely? Need to netflix this.

I loved the episode where the Jim Rose Circus starred as a freak show. Mulder has so many great one-liners.

Who's been to an X-Files convention? *raises then puts down hand in shame*

Ms. Misery TX (MissMiseryTX), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 15:04 (fifteen years ago) link

Robert Patrick/Doggett is unfairly maligned.

I hated him on the x-files only because I kept wishing he'd turn into the T1000.

Roz (Roz), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 15:11 (fifteen years ago) link

i was hoping one day Moronica would mention that an alien super soldier had been sighted at the local mall and he'd be able to ask "THE GALLERIA?!"

Konal Doddz (blueski), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 15:14 (fifteen years ago) link

The thing I really like about the Duchov-written episodes is that they aren't Mulder-centric and they show a very warm and funny and charming side of Scully. I'm sure he's a tool in real life, but as a writer/director of the X-Files he does not make it all about him and I appreciate that.

Lily Dale, Tuesday, 8 June 2021 03:46 (three months ago) link

I wish beefier douchebag Californication Duchovny wasn't the image that popped into my head of him vs. Mulder.

Joe Bombin (milo z), Tuesday, 8 June 2021 05:34 (three months ago) link

Was watching rando old eps but then my gf decided she just wanted to full-on rewatch so I guess that's what's happening now!

Anyway, 'Beyond the Sea' just never gets any less good.

Jerome Percival Jesus (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 8 June 2021 13:55 (three months ago) link

this week (for no particular reason) I was thinking of Duchovny saying he realized he wasn't cut out for Lit Scholarship while listening to Naomi Wolff speaking in Howard Bloom's class

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Tuesday, 8 June 2021 14:40 (three months ago) link

Post-modern Prometheus - just a wee bit problematic

Joe Bombin (milo z), Wednesday, 16 June 2021 19:59 (three months ago) link

Problematic and (challops alert!) not actually good

Jerome Percival Jesus (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 16 June 2021 20:14 (three months ago) link

It looks good and has some fun moments (the cuts between townspeople and their animal parents) but you’re not wrong.

Joe Bombin (milo z), Wednesday, 16 June 2021 20:25 (three months ago) link

one month passes...

Mulder and Scully openly flirting in season 6 is so uncomfortable.

Joe Bombin (milo z), Thursday, 29 July 2021 04:36 (one month ago) link

The whole vibe of season 6 is so weird. They sort of come off like angry exes who still hook up sometimes.

Lily Dale, Thursday, 29 July 2021 06:15 (one month ago) link

Feel like although it's not all bad, and there are some great eps, everything after they moved to LA from Van is not as good.

《Myst1kOblivi0n》 (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 29 July 2021 06:19 (one month ago) link

I actually like the Mulder and Scully romance/ sexual tension thing in every other season, but season 6 made it wrong and gross somehow.

With S6 I feel like the individual episodes are often good in a big technicolor movie kind of way, but there are too many episodes that are very similar and the overall tone of the season is really off.

Lily Dale, Thursday, 29 July 2021 06:23 (one month ago) link

Season 7 has a slightly weird tone (Gillian Anderson is playing Scully like the grizzled veteran cop tired of Mulder's bullshit - which is fair, really) but Millennium to the Amazing Maleeni is the longest run of good episodes in several seasons (Maleeni is not great but Ricky Jay compensates for the plot).

Joe Bombin (milo z), Wednesday, 11 August 2021 01:43 (one month ago) link

“All Things” is the worst thing

Joe Bombin (milo z), Friday, 20 August 2021 04:26 (one month ago) link

The Amazing Maleeni is pure comfort food for me; it was the first episode I saw and it just makes me happy. Totally absurd, in retrospect, to start the series with this cheerful sun-drenched episode where there are no deaths and nothing supernatural and the only crime is attempted fraud.

Lily Dale, Friday, 20 August 2021 04:53 (one month ago) link

There’s a song that gets repeated a dozen times in “All Things” that makes a bad episode unbearable… it was Moby.

Joe Bombin (milo z), Friday, 20 August 2021 04:57 (one month ago) link

All Things is the worst, I agree. I love the weird vibe of Season 7, though. I had this epiphany while watching X-Cops that the defining thing about Season 7 is that Mulder and Scully aren't scared anymore. Or in danger, or really personally invested in the cases in a big way. it feels like they're way more interested in hooking up offscreen than in whatever's going on with the X-files. It could actually have been a really good way to ease into ending the show if Chris Carter had been willing to let it end.

Lily Dale, Friday, 20 August 2021 05:03 (one month ago) link

The range of the show is really impressive, that in the span of a month they could produce both “First Person Shooter” and “all things,” which are both so awful in such vastly different ways.

JoeStork, Friday, 20 August 2021 05:48 (one month ago) link

X-post Yes I think once the characters became self-aware it broke the show a bit, it's like they've stopped believing in their own reality which makes it harder for the viewer to care about what happens.

I guess it kind-of makes sense narratively with most of the ongoing plot threads wrapped up and the sense of things winding down, except the series wouldn't die and plodded on for another two seasons, which leaves the S6/7 detour into meta-humour wackiness feel more odd in retrospect.

"Spaghetti" Thompson (Pheeel), Friday, 20 August 2021 06:36 (one month ago) link

I also agree re: the weirdness of M&S's relationship in S6. It's like they've finally acknowledged there's something there after dancing around the issue for years, but don't know what to do with it. The romantic/sexual chemistry is still there but feels forced somehow, like it's having to be written into the scripts rather than just occurring naturally between the two actors.

"Spaghetti" Thompson (Pheeel), Friday, 20 August 2021 08:36 (one month ago) link

Got back onto Hulu and picked up a few days ago where I left off watching the series from scratch. I realized into a bit that I had never seen this episode "Chinga" before and was thinking - damn this is a total Stephen King homage and was kind of surprised when I looked it up afterwards that he wrote it. New to me.

earlnash, Sunday, 22 August 2021 02:02 (one month ago) link

One episode to go in season 7 before I decide if I'm going to skip 8 & 9 and finally watch the relaunch or just end it and let myself revert to only remembering the first four seasons.

Bunch of bad episodes in a row before the genie episode - but fascinating, the back half of the season has felt like they got word they were being cancelled but had to show up for work anyway. Gillian Anderson looks increasingly over this shit with every close-up.

papal hotwife (milo z), Wednesday, 25 August 2021 05:20 (one month ago) link

I’ve been watching the show for the first time since I was a super fan in the 90s, as my partner had never seen it. We’ve been cherry picking 13 episodes or so a season. I’m trying to make up my mind whether to proceed into the later seasons. Back then, I dropped off after the first movie—scanning episode titles, I don’t recognize anything except a few episodes in season 6. I felt obligated to tune into the finale but remember nothing about it. Perhaps I’ll just find a "best of" the last few seasons and condense the entire back half into one "season”.

We’re at mid-season 3 and I’m pining for the alternate version of the mythology that is suggested in episodes like "Paper Clip”—yes, aliens may exist, but they’re uncommon, and the majority of the conspiracy is just a cover for America’s actions during the Cold War. I think that would also let Scully appear less silly in her disbelief: Mulder is right that aliens exist, but wrong that every conspiracy plot can be reduced to "aliens did it".

blatherskite, Wednesday, 25 August 2021 14:49 (one month ago) link

watched the Chair last night and Duchovny gamely making a fool of himself in it was absolutely hilarious

Jaime Pressly and America (f. hazel), Wednesday, 25 August 2021 15:57 (one month ago) link

X-Files reboot with him and Sandra Oh would be fucking amazing

Jaime Pressly and America (f. hazel), Wednesday, 25 August 2021 15:58 (one month ago) link

The lines on his face in that scene gave him a bit of a Walter Matthau look.

blatherskite, Wednesday, 25 August 2021 16:00 (one month ago) link

the scene has a X-Files callback as well! won't spoil it but it's unmissable

Jaime Pressly and America (f. hazel), Wednesday, 25 August 2021 16:02 (one month ago) link

Perhaps I’ll just find a "best of" the last few seasons and condense the entire back half into one "season”.

I posted recs in hidden tags a few months ago if that’s helpful

bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Wednesday, 25 August 2021 17:02 (one month ago) link

I think “Via Negativa” is very much worth watching, really atmospheric dream-horror episode, but a lot of season 8 is kind of a drag. The first half is at least trying to change things up but there’s a lot of middling, grim MOTW episodes. Also there’s a really dumb and pointless retcon about Mulder at the start of the season that makes no sense in the context of Mulder and Scully’s relationship, which is used to drive the plot of a single MOTW episode and then handwaved away.

Once Duchovny returns it just feels weird, Duchovny’s subdued performance at least works for the character but the whole show seems lost and low on energy.

JoeStork, Wednesday, 25 August 2021 23:48 (one month ago) link

yeah, plus iirc there's a very weird awkward offness to all of Mulder and Scully's interactions, a bit like Season 6 but worse because of everything that's happened in the meantime. It's hard to find any of their scenes believable when you're just wondering why the hell they don't talk about the fact that Scully is pregnant with a mystery baby that might be an alien or might be Mulder's, and I get the impression the actors feel the same way.

Lily Dale, Thursday, 26 August 2021 01:27 (one month ago) link

Saw another one for the first time last night and got to say 'The Pine Bluff Variant' episode does seem a bit more topical in 2021 than it probably did in 1998. It has a couple of guest stars that you definitely know from other places too like Lost and Malcolm in the Middle/Seinfeld.

earlnash, Thursday, 26 August 2021 13:05 (one month ago) link

that movie theater scene has really stuck with me over the years

Jaime Pressly and America (f. hazel), Thursday, 26 August 2021 13:58 (one month ago) link

impressive that it's their take on The Spy Who Came in From the Cold and they manage to fit a pretty faithful and coherent adaptation of the plot into 45 minutes.

Lily Dale, Thursday, 26 August 2021 14:39 (one month ago) link

Season 10 - whoooo boy this is rough. Interesting that it starts with a credible Alex Jones impression but the show still plays it down the middle on right-wing conspiracy seasoned with just enough left-wing criticism to not seem like Alex Jones was in the writer's room.

papal hotwife (milo z), Saturday, 28 August 2021 19:27 (four weeks ago) link

Special effects looked great, though, Roswell '47 & the cloaking ship.

Episode 2 could have been a great MOTW episode if it had spent more time with the siblings.

papal hotwife (milo z), Saturday, 28 August 2021 19:29 (four weeks ago) link

Much as I love the Darin Morgan eps, and some of the Gilligan comedies, I think the show actually got a bit too light and comical in general throughout S6 and S7 (with some exceptions). Despite its flaws, I kinda like the dark, gloomy tone of S8 for that reason.

That first S10 episode is such a mess, but I can kinda see what Carter was going for; I find the idea of powerful people experimenting with aliens and their technology scarier than invasion overlords (see Paper Clip, Nisei, etc)

Duane Barry, Saturday, 28 August 2021 23:35 (four weeks ago) link

omg Tim Armstrong monologue

papal hotwife (milo z), Monday, 30 August 2021 03:33 (three weeks ago) link

My Struggle II is cringe on top of cringe

papal hotwife (milo z), Thursday, 2 September 2021 03:43 (three weeks ago) link

Cutting between Mulder’s foot stomping on the gas, revs climbing and then zoom-zoom is so funny in this context.

papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 3 September 2021 03:30 (three weeks ago) link

I'm surprised that you have no comment on 'Babylon'. Particularly the shroom trip.

We're verrrrrey slooooowly rewatching, in season two rn, enjoying the casual stroll. I may actually eventually make it through those late season episodes I still haven't seen and I guess even rewatch the reboot, god help me.

Marty J. Bilge (Old Lunch), Friday, 3 September 2021 04:43 (three weeks ago) link

Oh, yeah, that whole episode was a mess. I have a soft spot for Lauren Ambrose because of Six Feet Under but the millennial version of Mulder was a void + ripped from the headlines terrorist plot (Garland Muhammed exhibition), Mulder line dancing while tripping balls was the only saving grace.

papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 3 September 2021 04:55 (three weeks ago) link

It's hard to believe this show (by which I mean pretty much anything after S6E1) is from the same team that created "Home" and "Clyde Bruckman's Final Repose."

papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 3 September 2021 04:57 (three weeks ago) link

I picked up season 8 from the library cos it was free. Didn't notice it was 8 until after I took it home. Has no outer cover just the sleeve the dvd fit into.
Did wonder if that was too late.
Not tried to watch any yet. Imdb rates individual episodes anyway.

Stevolende, Friday, 3 September 2021 06:04 (three weeks ago) link

Not seen season 8 but just started in on 9. It's not the fault of the new (to me) leads but yeah the writing sure is a significant step down from where I left it in season 7, jarringly cliched and corny at times. I'm liking the mythology stuff more than the MOTWs so far. Very awkward weird what they're doing with Scully, as much as I love the character and actor.

Noel Emits, Friday, 3 September 2021 10:20 (three weeks ago) link

It's hard to believe this show (by which I mean pretty much anything after S6E1) is from the same team that created "Home" and "Clyde Bruckman's Final Repose."

― papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, September 3, 2021 5:57 AM (five hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

Well, the writers chiefly responsible for those episodes had long moved on by then. It was pretty much just Vince Gilligan left delivering the goods, basically any of the handful of worthwhile episodes you can name from seasons 6 - 9 was probably one of his. Drive, X-Cops, Je Souhaite, etc.

"Spaghetti" Thompson (Pheeel), Friday, 3 September 2021 10:25 (three weeks ago) link

xp might have skipped over s7 as well, looking at the episode titles.

Noel Emits, Friday, 3 September 2021 10:34 (three weeks ago) link

What was the season and episode name of that one where it was mainly flashback cuts to previous eps but with the bloke inserted into the scenes, it was a comedy episode pretty much.

Sorry, but that is how I feel (Ste), Friday, 3 September 2021 12:43 (three weeks ago) link

Season 11, "The Lost Art of Forehead Sweat." That season's Darin Morgan episode.

Lily Dale, Friday, 3 September 2021 14:20 (three weeks ago) link

Well, the writers chiefly responsible for those episodes had long moved on by then.

I agree that Gilligan is responsible for nearly all the good eps from 6-9, but milo has just watched S10, in which the only writers apart from Carter are the writers of Home and Clyde Bruckman. (The Darin Morgan ep in S10 is great though.)

bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Friday, 3 September 2021 14:27 (three weeks ago) link

S11 Black Mirror episode was pretty good. Most of the season feels like they're doing Skinner dirty, though.

papal hotwife (milo z), Monday, 13 September 2021 02:41 (one week ago) link

They always kind of do Skinner dirty, don't they? He spends his life cleaning up Mulder's messes, and in return Mulder periodically accuses him of murder.

Lily Dale, Monday, 13 September 2021 03:16 (one week ago) link


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