The Cold War

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Did America win?

james hat, Saturday, 29 May 2004 08:49 (nineteen years ago) link

We got what we wanted but we lost what we had.

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Saturday, 29 May 2004 09:55 (nineteen years ago) link

And was Kevin's virginity in the Wonder Years a metaphor for whatever it is you're alluding to?

james hat, Saturday, 29 May 2004 13:31 (nineteen years ago) link

We couldn't be bothered getting involved in the Cold War, but if we had, we'd have beaten the US easily. It snows a lot more up here. Brrrrrr.

Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Saturday, 29 May 2004 15:37 (nineteen years ago) link

We got caught between the lines and, being right next to the USSR and fearing the fate of Eastern Europe, we had to make lots of political compromises. The fall of the Soviet was both a blessing and a curse thing for us: we didn't have have be on our toes anymore, but we also lost our biggest trading partner, which fuelled the depression that had already begun.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Saturday, 29 May 2004 16:18 (nineteen years ago) link

but would we have had all of that great finnish techno if there hadn't been a cold war?

Eisbär (llamasfur), Saturday, 29 May 2004 16:24 (nineteen years ago) link

The USSR dissolved and Russia became a democracy way too quickly, because it was pushed into rushing the process before it was ready, resulting in Russia's economy falling to pieces and making the United States the world's only 'superpower,' so yes, the US won.

Pack Yr Romantic Almanac (Autumn Almanac), Saturday, 29 May 2004 21:48 (nineteen years ago) link

and then the world was finally safe.

dyson (dyson), Saturday, 29 May 2004 22:09 (nineteen years ago) link

Comet had a cold war with Iceland once about freezer prices.

ken c (ken c), Saturday, 29 May 2004 22:51 (nineteen years ago) link

six years pass...

haha do u guys remember this shit at all

ice cr?m, Wednesday, 15 December 2010 05:30 (thirteen years ago) link

people used to talk abt ww3 all the time like it was a real thing that was totes gonna happen

ice cr?m, Wednesday, 15 December 2010 05:31 (thirteen years ago) link

people used to talk abt ww3 all the time like it was a real thing that was totes gonna happen

To be fair though, the rhetoric in the aftermath of the KAL 007 shootdown was strong enough that it feel like the missiles would have started flying if anyone blinked. Especially when the US got the go ahead to deploy the Pershing IIs in West Germany. My dad told me that he felt like it was the Cuban Missile Crisis all over again.

Stockhausen's Ekranoplan Quartet (Elvis Telecom), Wednesday, 15 December 2010 10:39 (thirteen years ago) link

even before KAL 007 Reagan's anti-soveit rhetoric & military build-up were scaring lots of people. it really seemed like he could start a nuclear war. there were two huge heating/AC units outside my apt window (for the restaurant downstairs) and when they rumbled loud abt 4AM I would wake up and think "the russian planes are coming..." seriously.

hubertus bigend (m coleman), Wednesday, 15 December 2010 11:11 (thirteen years ago) link

tbf there were points where the world was dangerously close to utter nuclear annihilation, its just kind of funny at this point how it was such a part of the popular imagination and now no one thinks abt it anymore, ww3 histeria was super popular even from the small less intense end piece of the cold war i remember

ice cr?m, Wednesday, 15 December 2010 16:06 (thirteen years ago) link

its kind of absurd that the u.s. policies of the era are now generally considered a success because the world was not destroyed and the ussr collapsed - and all we had to deal with was 40 years of terror, proxy wars, and ridiculous military build up!

ice cr?m, Wednesday, 15 December 2010 16:08 (thirteen years ago) link

The Day After movie! that shit scared me when i was a kid

http://www.ilxor.com/glyloop.mp3 (Aerosol), Wednesday, 15 December 2010 16:54 (thirteen years ago) link

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/c9/Thedayafter.jpg

OH SHIT WE GONNA DIE

http://www.ilxor.com/glyloop.mp3 (Aerosol), Wednesday, 15 December 2010 16:55 (thirteen years ago) link

oh man that movie

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7VG2aJyIFrA

dan m, Wednesday, 15 December 2010 16:57 (thirteen years ago) link

the only cold war the kids might remember is Janelle Monae's.

Gus Van Sotosyn (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 15 December 2010 16:57 (thirteen years ago) link

According to Edmund Morris, Reagan's response to The Day After was to write in his journal, for the first and only time in his public life, "profoundly depressed."

Gus Van Sotosyn (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 15 December 2010 16:58 (thirteen years ago) link

there was a whole, quite interesting, article about reagan's response to it in 'empire' magazine the other month

ohhhh we plop champagne (history mayne), Wednesday, 15 December 2010 16:59 (thirteen years ago) link

Link?

Gus Van Sotosyn (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 15 December 2010 16:59 (thirteen years ago) link

paper only, by someone called simon braund

ohhhh we plop champagne (history mayne), Wednesday, 15 December 2010 17:01 (thirteen years ago) link

thought of this cause a younger friend teaching english in korea was all via gchat last nite omg we did a drill and hid in the school bomb shelter - i was like pfft we used to do that IN AMERICA

ice cr?m, Wednesday, 15 December 2010 18:47 (thirteen years ago) link

http://mauriciobaccarin.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/domino_theory1.png

buzza, Wednesday, 15 December 2010 19:11 (thirteen years ago) link

loll

ice cr?m, Wednesday, 15 December 2010 19:13 (thirteen years ago) link

so much for that theory i guess

ice cr?m, Wednesday, 15 December 2010 19:13 (thirteen years ago) link

the only cold war the kids might remember is Janelle Monae's.

― Gus Van Sotosyn (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, December 15, 2010 11:57 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark

not gonna lie when i saw thread in site new answers my first thought was 'good song but did it really needs its own thread'

/\/K/\/\, Wednesday, 15 December 2010 19:14 (thirteen years ago) link

Testament >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Day After

from the lowly milligeir to the mighty gigahongro (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 15 December 2010 19:15 (thirteen years ago) link

but yeah I remember late 70s/early 80s nuclear annihilation Cold War hysteria really well. Enough that when all the OMG WE GONNA DIE bloviating/hystrionics began afte r9/11 I was just like *ppffffft* "we had thousands of nukes pointed at this country for decades - a bunch of luddite loonies with boxcutters is nothing in comparison".

from the lowly milligeir to the mighty gigahongro (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 15 December 2010 19:17 (thirteen years ago) link

Did America win?

wait, you're saying it's over?

Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 15 December 2010 19:17 (thirteen years ago) link

(I still feel that way tbh - the threat Al Qaeda poses to the US by comparison is miniscule and pathetic and we should be responding accordingly instead of having extra-judicial killings and invading random countries)

xp

from the lowly milligeir to the mighty gigahongro (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 15 December 2010 19:17 (thirteen years ago) link

when two tribes go to war, a point is all that you can score

buzza, Wednesday, 15 December 2010 19:19 (thirteen years ago) link

yah shakey otm people searching for a new cold war trying to find that juice, pitiful

ice cr?m, Wednesday, 15 December 2010 19:27 (thirteen years ago) link

"Day After" was on TV a couple of years back, Mr Veg decided it to watch it for lols. It was pretty funny, corny disaster movie etc...then the attack scene happened and I had to leave the room, it freaked me out too bad. Mr Veg was all, "but you were just a kid, right?" and I was like, yeah a kid who watched TV!
Sting singing songs about the Russians, and little kids writing crayon letters to Reagan about not pushing the button, and every news story was about Star Wars or Russia or some shit, and reading all those post-apocalyptic 'kids' books like Z for Zachariah and Children of The Dust...it sticks in a kid's head!

Square-Panted Sponge Robert (VegemiteGrrrl), Thursday, 16 December 2010 06:21 (thirteen years ago) link

yah im sayin it was everywhere, most currently unacknowledged cultural phenomenon of recent history

ice cr?m, Thursday, 16 December 2010 06:27 (thirteen years ago) link

amazing and gross how much it seems like so many of our elites loved that shit and miss it. bolton, mccain, all of them. they can't think of anything the country ought to do than more of that.

goole, Thursday, 16 December 2010 17:07 (thirteen years ago) link

having an enemy makes life easy

ice cr?m, Thursday, 16 December 2010 17:10 (thirteen years ago) link

true, even garfield has nermal

Jefferson Mansplain (DG), Thursday, 16 December 2010 17:13 (thirteen years ago) link

THAT LIL FUCKIN PUFF BALL

ice cr?m, Thursday, 16 December 2010 17:14 (thirteen years ago) link

was pretty tense that one time doctor manhattan left for mars...

srsly tho, nuclear weapons are still one of the planet's main existential threats and the dickweed republicans blocking any replacement for the start treaty isn't helping.

maxhchivan (max arrrrrgh), Friday, 17 December 2010 20:54 (thirteen years ago) link

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/af/BonzoGoesToWashington.jpg

knew his telly career was a front for something

titular character (acoleuthic), Friday, 17 December 2010 21:31 (thirteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jiW7NbkhbJ0

nuclear winter gonna FREEZE YOUR BRAIN

Mangrove Earthshoe (herb albert), Saturday, 18 December 2010 20:29 (thirteen years ago) link

seven years pass...

did the cold war ever really end? or did it just let up a bit during the 90s, then resume as before?

i remember the corned beef of my childhood (Karl Malone), Friday, 23 February 2018 22:24 (six years ago) link


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