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I live on Oakland Walk.

Sick Nouthall (Nick Southall), Monday, 3 May 2004 14:36 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Bubb Rubb and L'il Siss to thread.

hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 3 May 2004 14:42 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 3 May 2004 14:44 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

So @d@ml, you will be showing Gareth around Oakland I trust.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 3 May 2004 14:45 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Nah. He can just read this thread.

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Monday, 3 May 2004 14:45 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

http://www.fairyland.org/images/entrance2.gif

gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 3 May 2004 16:03 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Apropos of nothing in particular, gygax!, did you enjoy B&S on Friday?

Michael White (Hereward), Monday, 3 May 2004 16:05 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

http://www.pazsaz.com/pic/hanglogo.gif

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 3 May 2004 16:13 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

http://www.abbrecords.com/abb/images/g_pic05.jpg

this guy's coming to get me

JaXoN (JasonD), Monday, 3 May 2004 16:59 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

http://www.danfontes.com/images/fentons.jpg

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 3 May 2004 17:03 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

http://www.whiskeyclone.net/ghost/images/humpty2.jpg

waxyjax (waxyjax), Monday, 3 May 2004 17:06 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Southern belle gentility in Oakland. Who knew?

Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Monday, 3 May 2004 17:08 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Dunsmuir House. It's owned by the Oakland Parks Dept.

Michael White (Hereward), Monday, 3 May 2004 17:26 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Spencer...what is that in your third post?

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Monday, 3 May 2004 17:27 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

You can now tour the port of oakland by boat.

www.portofoakland.com

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Monday, 3 May 2004 17:28 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Mormon temple in the hills.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 3 May 2004 17:28 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

JUICY GOTCHA KRAZY!

http://image.allmusic.com/00/amg/cov200/dre700/e709/e70966j73o0.jpg

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 3 May 2004 17:37 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Spencer, did you know that Fenton's burned down? My XGF lives right by there and we heard the sirens one night and the cops were there taking the manager and 2 workers away in cuffs in the parking lot while the place erupted in flames despite several firetrucks on the scene (must have been gasoline).

The employees had a rental truck filled with the safe and the jukebox (?).

It reopened after a year but I never went back.

gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 3 May 2004 17:43 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

wow! I had no idea. when did this happen???

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 3 May 2004 18:38 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

mmmm... summer 2002-ish.

gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 3 May 2004 18:42 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

actually, just looked it up. November of '01 and reopened in '03

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 3 May 2004 18:44 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

haha, so much for my memory.

gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 3 May 2004 18:44 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I will be at Oakland airport Sunday morning for two hours close to 10am. Anyone wanna come over and have breakfast with me?

donut bitch (donut), Monday, 3 May 2004 21:38 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

also, fail to understand what the flights to Gatwick have to do with anything preceding that bit of information.

akm, Friday, 14 April 2017 04:46 (two years ago) Permalink

also, unreal-beautiful lynch protoge and nu-twin peaks star Chrysta Bell apparently has moved to Oakland (and is playing a show wih david j next month) and has published this twaddle

http://bbook.com/nightlife/singer-twin-peaks-star-chrysta-bells-hip-guide-to-oakland/

akm, Friday, 14 April 2017 05:32 (two years ago) Permalink

Oakland is the most raw, exciting, brutal, depressing, vibrant and inspiring place I have ever lived. The plight of existence and the will to overcome adversity is everywhere. The duality of the organic ice cream shop next door to a tent community of homeless is commonplace. There are signs of life, death, struggle, survival, compassion and courage on every block. I have been undeniably enriched and expanded by my time living here.

I would be embarrassed to the point of move-out-of-town shame if I said this aloud, let alone agreed to put it in print

PURE, BEAUTIFUL OIL (Sparkle Motion), Friday, 14 April 2017 14:54 (two years ago) Permalink

I'd just wonder where else this person has lived.

sarahell, Friday, 14 April 2017 16:22 (two years ago) Permalink

yeah for real

PURE, BEAUTIFUL OIL (Sparkle Motion), Friday, 14 April 2017 17:18 (two years ago) Permalink

Sarahell how long have you been in Oakland

PURE, BEAUTIFUL OIL (Sparkle Motion), Friday, 14 April 2017 17:19 (two years ago) Permalink

it will be 20 years in November!

sarahell, Friday, 14 April 2017 17:24 (two years ago) Permalink

hey wow. It's strangely been over a decade for me now, hard to believe

PURE, BEAUTIFUL OIL (Sparkle Motion), Friday, 14 April 2017 17:47 (two years ago) Permalink

http://www.eastbayexpress.com/oakland/blacklisted-how-the-oakland-police-department-discriminates-against-rappers-and-music-venues/Content?oid=6482231

i was at that task force meeting, and of the 5 people of color there, 4 were representatives of City/County/State government agencies

sarahell, Wednesday, 26 April 2017 19:48 (one year ago) Permalink

i'm not sure what that implies

akm, Wednesday, 26 April 2017 19:55 (one year ago) Permalink

one month passes...

BREAKING: #GhostShip master tenant, Derick Almena, creative director, Max Harris arrested on susp. of 36 counts of involuntary manslaughter

— Evan Sernoffsky (@EvanSernoffsky) June 5, 2017

Ned Raggett, Monday, 5 June 2017 17:32 (one year ago) Permalink

one month passes...

Yeesh, but after everyone's various posts here, I guess I'm not surprised.

http://www.eastbaytimes.com/2017/07/16/huge-failure-80-percent-of-oakland-firefighter-warnings-of-unsafe-buildings-go-unchecked/

Ned Raggett, Monday, 17 July 2017 01:26 (one year ago) Permalink

wasn't this "news" back in January?

sarahell, Monday, 17 July 2017 07:51 (one year ago) Permalink

four months pass...

The first anniversary is tomorrow. Lovely piece here about preserving the work and memory of many who passed.

https://ww2.kqed.org/arts/2017/12/01/saving-the-music-of-ghost-ship-victims-helps-loved-ones-heal/

Ned Raggett, Friday, 1 December 2017 23:03 (one year ago) Permalink

the exhibition actually only runs through the 8th ... the reception is tonight, and we're showing a mostly finished Coral Remains video

sarahell, Friday, 1 December 2017 23:10 (one year ago) Permalink

Best to everyone at the memorials today.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 3 December 2017 01:42 (one year ago) Permalink

six months pass...

A plea bargain is apparently happening tomorrow:

Two men are expected to take plea deals of 6 and 9 years by pleading no contest to 36 counts of involuntary manslaughter connected to the Dec. 2, 2016 Ghost Ship warehouse fire in Oakland that killed 36 people in one of the state’s deadliest fires.

An email sent by the Alameda County District Attorney David Lim to victims’ families on Saturday — obtained by this newspaper — says Derick Almena, 48, is expected to accept a deal that will give him nine years behind bars while Max Harris, 28, is expected to receive six years. Both will serve out their sentences locally, at the Alameda County Jail, instead of state prison.

Prosecutors had argued that both Almena and Harris were criminally negligent in causing the deaths of the 36 people in the art collective warehouse known as the Ghost Ship, or Satya Yuga, at 1305 31st Ave. in East Oakland. Almena, 48, was said to be the head of the art collective while Harris, 28, was the self-titled “executive director” and took rent from other residents.

On Tuesday, they’ll appear before Alameda County Superior Court Judge Morris Jacobson and are expected to accept their plea deals to avoid a jury trial that had been scheduled for July 16.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 2 July 2018 21:01 (nine months ago) Permalink

one month passes...

Ghost Ship plea deal thrown out

Οὖτις, Friday, 10 August 2018 23:09 (eight months ago) Permalink

so it goes to trial?

"But when he offered to have his body tattooed with flames and the faces of the victims, some families in the gallery recoiled" this stood out to me

Dan S, Friday, 10 August 2018 23:22 (eight months ago) Permalink

wow, that’s some news

O_o at his tattoo remark...talk about not reading the room jfc. “I feel terrible... I’ve created a handcrafted coldbrew beverage in your honor”

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 11 August 2018 02:58 (eight months ago) Permalink

two months pass...

No idea if this is just gonna stick to the bribery/extortion and conflict of interest stuff

https://www.eastbayexpress.com/SevenDays/archives/2018/11/06/corruption-probe-into-oaklands-code-enforcement-inspectors-widens

sarahell, Tuesday, 6 November 2018 19:01 (five months ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...

http://extras.mercurynews.com/ghostship/

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Monday, 3 December 2018 01:19 (four months ago) Permalink

Massive new NYT story on Harris, the other person charged along with Almena:

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/12/magazine/oakland-warehouse-fire-ghost-ship.html

Strong point:

NYT Mag goes deep on Max Harris. One piece not mentioned in this retelling: Harris blocked passageways inside the warehouse as he prepared for the event, according to witnesses at the prelim hearing https://t.co/4ykQ61wDWl pic.twitter.com/SbGdIV3gMN

— Kimberly Veklerov (@KVeklerov) December 12, 2018

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 18:21 (four months ago) Permalink

Ghost ship was kinda the venue of "last resort" for that show ... the organizers had asked other places (at least one, one that a friend of mine ran) and the other places couldn't do the show.

sarahell, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 18:47 (four months ago) Permalink

Harris took his first studio art class and, like a cure in epoxy, it transformed and gave solidity to his life.

that's an odd phrasing ... wouldn't you say "like cured epoxy" or "epoxy curing" ... the epoxy is the substance that cures, with curing being a process rather than a thing?

sarahell, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 18:58 (four months ago) Permalink

Maybe referring to the chemical that's added to make the rest harden?

nickn, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 19:24 (four months ago) Permalink

The mayor then tried to mend her relationship with her more creative constituents by signing an executive order giving owners of illegally inhabited spaces up to 60 days to come up with plans to bring those properties into compliance with building regulations.

it was a bit more than that, the executive order also had strong language about preventing eviction and displacement of tenants ... but you know, this was only covered in a bunch of other places that the NYT writer could have read and taken from, rather than "getting it wrong" ... this article is weird.

But who would pay for all those upgrades: the sprinkler systems, the insulation, the fire doors?

Sprinklers are fucking expensive. Not sure what the writer means by "insulation" -- are they talking about Title 24 energy efficiency improvements -- that's the only thing that could make sense here that would be expensive, but that's an odd term to describe it. Fire doors are cheap. Not mentioned: building fire rated walls and fixing walls that don't have an adequate fire rating; likely seismic retrofits because many of these buildings weren't retrofitted after the 89 earthquake and that is why they were cheap to rent; replacing old windows with energy efficient windows (the Title 24 thing); bringing heat into the building; the fact that it is actually technically illegal to have live/work housing in the same building (at least the way Ghostship was configured) with event space use ...

Jesus fucking christ this article makes me angry because this stuff has been covered, cited, and discussed so many other places, in so many other articles, and this person who writes for the NY FUCKING TIMES can't simply copy and paste something that is accurate, as opposed to try to be "poetic" or something ...

sarahell, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 19:25 (four months ago) Permalink

Maybe referring to the chemical that's added to make the rest harden?

― nickn, Wednesday, December 12, 2018 11:24 AM (one minute ago

maybe! I just have never heard it described that way ...

sarahell, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 19:26 (four months ago) Permalink

(back to previous rant) there are a half dozen more upgrades that affect almost all buildings of this type that are way more expensive than "fire doors" yet that's all this person could come up with?

sarahell, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 19:27 (four months ago) Permalink

and this person who writes for the NY FUCKING TIMES can't simply copy and paste something that is accurate

yes well it is the NYT after all, carrying on in the rich tradition of Jayson Blair and Judith Miller one assumes

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 19:28 (four months ago) Permalink

they give props to the East Bay Times for their reporting but would have been well served by c&p-ing from a EB Times article rather than poetic improvisation once the article stops being a bio piece about Harris

sarahell, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 19:38 (four months ago) Permalink

one month passes...

https://www.facebook.com/events/2402422093131045/

trying hard not to be publicly angry

sarahell, Tuesday, 5 February 2019 20:00 (two months ago) Permalink

wtf

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 5 February 2019 20:03 (two months ago) Permalink

for those not wanting to click, the event is the "Free M@x Fest" to raise money for one of the Ghost Ship fire defendants whose "mentally deficient" approach to safety led to the deaths of 36 people, 6 of whom were my friends.

sarahell, Tuesday, 5 February 2019 20:06 (two months ago) Permalink

absolutely ridiculous. Look I think other people share the blame on this, surely; it wasn't wholly Harris' fault. Owner, landlord, Almena are all at fault. But that doesn't mean Harris is innocent.

akm, Tuesday, 5 February 2019 20:29 (two months ago) Permalink

agreed

legislative fanboy halfwit (Οὖτις), Tuesday, 5 February 2019 20:30 (two months ago) Permalink

it's tough, because i don't think Harris belongs in jail, but that's because of my ethical and political opposition to the current criminal justice system

sarahell, Tuesday, 5 February 2019 20:31 (two months ago) Permalink

so you think he should be free?

legislative fanboy halfwit (Οὖτις), Tuesday, 5 February 2019 20:33 (two months ago) Permalink

i think he deserves some sort of "punishment" but not prison ... idk ... it's complicated

sarahell, Tuesday, 5 February 2019 20:35 (two months ago) Permalink

honestly I think his lawyer should try to defend him on the grounds of "mental deficiency" because he doesn't strike me as an intelligent person, in general, and also, you would have to be a total idiot to think that blocking exits and doing a show in that place with the history of electrical problems is safe.

sarahell, Tuesday, 5 February 2019 20:37 (two months ago) Permalink

he seems like the kind of guy that should be isolated from society, ie, dangerous to himself and others.

legislative fanboy halfwit (Οὖτις), Tuesday, 5 February 2019 20:47 (two months ago) Permalink

https://i.imgur.com/Dhurfvn.jpg

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 5 February 2019 20:52 (two months ago) Permalink

During his preparations, he blocked off one of two exits from the second floor, which “effectively reduced the upstairs guests to a single point of escape” down a makeshift front staircase constructed of wood pallets.

In an interview with this news agency shortly after the fire, Harris spoke about the plans for the party.

“I was getting ready for the event, cleaning up, closing off areas, preparing to welcome people into the space. I was moving furniture around to change things up,” he said.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 5 February 2019 20:54 (two months ago) Permalink

i so don't want to see that large a picture of that guy ... like, idk, replace it with goatse or something

sarahell, Tuesday, 5 February 2019 21:05 (two months ago) Permalink

one month passes...

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7826/47481859831_07a3e820db.jpg

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 27 March 2019 22:09 (three weeks ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

bump for this Thurs

Οὖτις, Monday, 15 April 2019 16:07 (one week ago) Permalink


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