Minnesota/Minnesotans C or D

All the hippies at my school that dream of moving to Canada will be saddened by this information.

CLASSIC

IN THE HOUSE!!1

I was thinking this when composing the thread.

Dud:
Snow
St. Olaf College
Lutherans (aka 'lobotomy for religious reasons')
Mosquitoes AND midges (gnats) in summer
Knowing how to use jumper cables and snow-shovels
Racism towards Viets, especially Hmongs, and Mexicans and Somalis
The NW suburbs: Blaine, Brooklyn Park, Robbinsdale
Morbidly obese Minnesotans at State Fair in their thousands

Classic: Low, the Cows, Duluth, Ironworld, the International Wolf Center, the World's Largest Hockey Stick

http://www.wlra.us/wl/th/wlhstick1.jpg

As for the Vikings, I just like making fun of my dad's team as they choke in the playoffs year after year.. oh jeez, ya know dey won't win da Sooper Bowl so why not root for de Packers der. It would be cool if they did pull it out, but I tend to be pessimistic.

Except for when he pledged to only serve one term. But Wellstone is classic for that campaign bus.

Classic:
Hating all those cake-eaters in Edina
Hating the Bears
Hating the Packers
Lord Fletchers (hey, my aunt & uncle live on Minnetonka, too...and so did I 30 years ago)
Uptown
The Replacements
Prince
St. Paul
10,000 lakes
Boundary Waters
CP & the Strib (except for CJ)
that free zoo in that park that I can't remember the name of

Dud:
8 months of winter
mosquitos
SPAM
1am last call

This is also the gateway into teaching the French Revolution in St. Louis Park. Believe.

Lake Minnetonka must have a ley-line that acts exclusively as a preppy magnet.

Minnesota is a great place to grow up, but people like me need bigger cities than Minneapolis.

The problem with Minneapolis is the same with most large modern cities--there's not much density to it. It's all sprawl. Which is also part of its charm.

Also, SPAM IS CLASSIC.

-Lots of friends there
-Had some good gigs, at the Times and Cabooze and whatnot
-Lots of cool restaurants, and I love going to Maria's or Triple Rock for breakfast
-Halal markets that sell camel meat
-That Sun Ray sign on the way into St. Paul that's had the 'y' out for years, so it says "SUN RA"
-Happy Apple

DUD:

-Asshole drivers, for real
-I can't stand finding my way around Mpls, I've gotten lost there more than anywhere else and (partly as a result of being lost and stressed) gotten in my only car accident, which is still causing me financial trouble
-Driving from Wisconsin to Minnesota is most mind-numbing drive imaginable, and it's just long enough to feel really long but too short to settle into 'driving all day' mode.

You forgot MATOS. KCLASSIC.

Minneapolis road rage is among the most passive-aggressive in the world.

I miss Dayton's, the Lincoln Del, and Excelsior Amusement Park.

First Avenue/7th Street Entry
some restaurant a couple blocks away
some hotel (maybe it was by the airport?)
the mall in Edina
a gas station somewhere between Minneapolis and Moorhead
a Target somewhere between Minneapolis and Moorhead
a dumpy bar in Moorhead
some restaurant that kinda sucked in Moorhead
a Days Inn in Moorhead (we snuck into the pool later that night)
a Chinese buffet place in Moorhead
yet another gas station

Also, Husker Du.

Hah

I'd like to see more of the state.

Well you pretty much covered everything between Minneapolis and Moorhead (as well as Moorhead) so you can check that off the list.

Yet, somehow at the same time: Classic.

tom bernard: racist.

bizarre to see everything boarded up, burned down, or broken and covered in graffiti
neighborhood littered with ACAB and FUCK 12 tags
saw my post office smoldering, it's completely gone
the scene at east lake cub / target and environs is harrowing
folks at SKOL caught some white kids who drove in from eau claire, WI trying to break in. fucking clowns
checked in with mike at barely bros. they're fine. agartha looked fine and so did hymie's
ivy building caught fire. friends w/ studio space there lucked out but several artists evidently lost everything
everybody i know is just dazed / speechless / overwhelmed / heartbroken
not to mention angry

36th and 10th Ave S
Shots fired from pick up truck at community members.
Metro Transit PD has one detained at 34th and Columbus, and still looking for another party that was firing shots.https://t.co/HQleSFZdFc #mpls #Mplsriot2020

— CrimeWatchMpls (@CrimeWatchMpls) June 1, 2020

A friend of mine was one of the people fired at.

No one injured afaik

Sorry to hear that, O. I better check in with some people. I haven't really been posting but am safe.

Here's the bookstore my husband works at:

We're ok. We're still here. We're so proud of the amazing people of Minneapolis. Abolish the police. pic.twitter.com/XoRjvRqmwm

— Moon Palace Books (@MoonPalaceBooks) June 1, 2020

I had heard that Moon Palace got burned--what a relief!

Uncle Hugo’s SFF Bookstore completely burned, moon palace intact, dreamhaven attempted but failed.

Friend of mine works at MP as well - glad they made it (so far)

fairly hopeless and terrified atm, expecting the power to go out to be honest. heard lines were down a few blocks away

a little MN historical "liberalism"

Mayor Art Naftalin (a Humphrey protege) responded by expanding civil rights committees created by Humphrey, even as the state of Minn. received new Pentagon funds for more riot training for the National Guard. These headlines were published on the same day in the Star Tribune.10/ pic.twitter.com/9Xbxm1RlQ9

— Michael Brenes (@mbrenes1) May 30, 2020

Was up until 4 am last few nights, we have a neighborhood watch group that we formed to track all these vehicles creeping or speeding (always one or the other) though our neighborhood.

My friend's neighbor had his fence soaked in gasoline, they found boards soaked in kerosene in the alley. People have been defending the Longfellow Market, the last unburned grocery store in the neighborhood,if that goes we have no place go buy food for people without cars.

I sound like a crazy person but these vehicles are driving around all night. I've seen them. Going to St Paul yesterday a black BMW SUV shot past us on 94, no plates

THE POLICE ARE NOT DOING SHIT TO PROTECT OUR NEIGHBORHOODS

I haven't seen any cruisers patrolling or responding to call

Maybe if they weren't engaged in military fashion shooting at peaceful protesters THEY COULD ACTUALLY DO THEIR FUCKING JOBS

damn bro scary

Sorry Matt, I heard the same thing from my friend (who made the decision to temporarily split town with his family), stay safe :/

I sound like a crazy person but these vehicles are driving around all night. I've seen them. Going to St Paul yesterday a black BMW SUV shot past us on 94, no plates

these are beyond dispute at this point, you are one of numerous mpls friends who have seen this in their neighborhoods. I have seen mentioned the added detail of large bags in the backs of these cars, which in light of the police's statement that they have found caches of accelerants in residential neighborhoods...

I’ve been thinking about all the people I know in the area, including ilx people, a lot lately. Hope everyone continues to be safe, and if there’s anything we can do from outside the state, let us know.

I have some friends who considered joining some students driving up from Iowa to peacefully protest and help aid, but I think it was wise they joined local efforts instead. I think having out of state people showing up is more of a risk than anything right now?

i don't think coming here is a good idea

Friend on twitter @msfeatherweight was tweeting out all the mega sus vehicles in their neighborhood last night for example:

‘28th street just had 2 vans, an SUV, and 3 sedans with their lights off, going around 50mph, with Identity Evropa regalia’

these are beyond dispute at this point

i think this is true but we've been hampered repeatedly by reports that come up disconfirmed, and then of course there's:

Walz said he got "out over my skis" on reports of people coming from outside area. He said they are still trying to get a better understanding of this.

— Jessie Van Berkel (@jessvanb) June 1, 2020

j. I think the outside agitators thing is being overdone in one way - MN is so fucking high on our own supply that we need to believe violent white supremacists are nefariously imported from out of state when they are probably just from Coon Rapids or Lakeville or St. Cloud

otm

forest lake

exactly

but I personally in Minneapolis consider someone from Forest Lake being in the city after curfew just as much of an outsider as someone from Michigan, all due respect to the two Twins games they attend each year

yeah, i think we're saying the same thing

Minn AG Keith Ellison is quoted acknowledging the mysterious no license plate vehicles in this article (which I otherwise have no particular opinion of):
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/31/us/george-floyd-protests-white-supremacists-antifa.html

Scary stuff.

friend relayed from ANOTHER friend who got it from HIS neighbors (the actual signal chain): someone found two full propane tanks between their houses in s mpls

Jesus fuck

that is terrifying

that sounds v much like white supremacist militia shit

I live in nempls and am kind of shocked at how quiet it has been here, keep waiting for the other shoe to drop

neighbors have found kerosene soaked wood in the alleys and I have seen pics online of bottles of gas and such, but that's really about it other than the shops on Central being boarded up and the police station looking like a Mad Max fort

oh and let's not forget the police union offices on University, honestly surprised there hasn't been protests there yet

I had heard that Moon Palace got burned--what a relief!

― Dan I.

I've been worried about this place too because of their location. Glad they're doing ok.

Just saw Hymies Records posting that they're doing alright and thanking the support they've had. As I mentioned on the other thread, I feel extra protective over the record stores having got to know a lot of the people working at them. We managed to get boarded up at Agharta and are closed at the moment. Hoping that my boss has been able to get home and get some rest. He had a few long nights staying over at the shop.

My wife's sister and partner live in Minneapolis and said it has been rough by them. They got out of town on Friday as they could see buildings on fire from their home. Heartbreaking to hear my sister in law say they expected to come back to their place being burned down.

Hope that everyone is hanging in there.

I hope that people are recognising the presence of that accelerant and prepared firewood and warning others about it being around. So people have a chance to check for and therefore dispose of it.
Sounds nightmarish.

Reports of a basement fire and lighter fluid found at an apartment building across the street from me last night. Seemingly the entire national guard arrived with the fire truck.

What neighborhood Geoffrey?

Stevens Square

i heard that was the building with boiler room coffee

Great thread:

Bob Kroll’s letter yesterday to the Minneapolis Police Federation membership showed us what rank-and-file officers voted for in their leadership, and it is yet another sign that the department is irredeemably beyond reform.

— Steve Fletcher - Minneapolis Ward 3 (@MplsWard3) June 2, 2020

#BREAKING: Minneapolis Public Schools votes unanimously to terminate its contract with the Minneapolis Police Department, in response to the death of #GeorgeFloyd.

— Ryan Faircloth (@RyanFaircloth) June 2, 2020

xp

This is literally my exact experience as a Councilmember. https://t.co/8jg0YdDou4

— Phillipe Cunningham (@CunninghamMPLS) June 2, 2020

no idea what Steve Fletcher's prior record is, but respect to him for speaking truth now

Naomi Kritzer on the arsonists: https://naomikritzer.com/2020/06/03/minneapolis-outside-agitators/

Booming. Thanks. Crossposting to fuck the police thread.

Imagine being someone that actually knew and cared about George Floyd and seeing this in person pic.twitter.com/lAyXZjmibR

— Neizan (@PMDawnStan) June 4, 2020

hmmmmm

No one who lives the North Loop should be allowed to hold public office

that neizan person ... is a huge racist asshole ?

Oof

https://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2020/06/04/holy-land-ceo-fires-daughter-after-racist-posts-from-her-past-resurface/

The Minneapolis Police Department has proven themselves beyond reform.

It’s time to disband them and reimagine public safety in Minneapolis.

Thank you to @MplsWard3 for your leadership on this! https://t.co/AQfHM5M6eR

— Ilhan Omar (@IlhanMN) June 5, 2020

that Holy Land shit is fucked up

I buy that a lot

yeah hittin minnesotans where it hurts

I guess it felt better to support local than, like, Sabra or whatever

I think Emily's sells some too though