Sergio Leone!

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I realize he made relatively few films but I'd take his "Man With No Name" trilogy, Once Upon a Time In the West, Fistful of Dynamite, and Once Upon a Time In America to a desert island with no other films and I think I could live out my days quite happily.

Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 14 April 2004 20:11 (sixteen years ago) link

You OTM.

I once saw a very very early matinee of The Good, The Bad & The Ugly (with ice cream and everything) and I have rarely ever been so truly truly happy.

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 14 April 2004 20:14 (sixteen years ago) link

They are comic books on film, in the best possible sense.

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 14 April 2004 20:15 (sixteen years ago) link

They're great films - Once Upon A Time In The West particularly is full of gorgeous and memorable scenes and shots, I think. I once went out with a woman who was named Leone because her father loved Sergio's films so much.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Wednesday, 14 April 2004 20:29 (sixteen years ago) link

There's that line that Jason Robards say to Claudia Cardinale's character, which starts off sort of funny and a split second later because of Leone's camera movement, the Morricone music, and her expression is is unbearably touching:

Cheyenne: You know, Jill, you remind me of my mother. She was the biggest whore in Alameda and the finest woman that ever lived.

Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 14 April 2004 20:31 (sixteen years ago) link

Leone crafts a much better Western than musty old blowhard Sam Peckinpah ( who I do actually like sometimes, but...).

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 14 April 2004 20:32 (sixteen years ago) link

The Good, The Bad & The Ugly may be my all-time favorite movie, the more I think about it.

El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Wednesday, 14 April 2004 20:35 (sixteen years ago) link

This seems like a good idea. I'm charting a boat as we speak.

sexyDancer, Wednesday, 14 April 2004 20:44 (sixteen years ago) link

xpost
the best part is in the beginning where one of the gunman is plagued by an obnoxious fly and then he catches it in the barrel of his revolver and listens to its angry frustrated buzz inside the barrell of his gun in utter satisfaction.

turner (turner), Wednesday, 14 April 2004 20:49 (sixteen years ago) link

Jack Elam! What a face! He died recently. :(

sexyDancer, Wednesday, 14 April 2004 21:10 (sixteen years ago) link

as did victor argo. the man who shot the knig of new york. stop dying good peolpe :((

anyway i t hink the dollartrilogy is flwaless but loene lost mometnum after that.

:|, Wednesday, 14 April 2004 23:20 (sixteen years ago) link

I think "The Wild Bunch" is a greater movie than "Once Upon a Time in the West," but the latter is a fucking great movie. Those two are pretty much the pinnacle of the whole western-movie genre, in my estimation. I love Robards and Cardinale in that film, and the scene in which the dying officer, who won't reach the west coast, is lying face down near a little puddle of water--never fails to get me.

Leone is too much; there are times when I'm very impatient with his whole shtick. I also love the ringing telephone sequence in "Once Upon a Time in America," but what a fucked-up movie experience that is.

eddie hurt (ddduncan), Thursday, 15 April 2004 03:02 (sixteen years ago) link

I'm gonna get on that boat, SexyD.

Yeah, Leone and Peckinpah own the western genre. I might sneak The Wild Bunch and Pat Garrett and Billy the Kid on the boat as well...

Gear! (Gear!), Thursday, 15 April 2004 03:39 (sixteen years ago) link

"Fistful of Dynamite" is probably my fave but that could be because it has the best Morricone of all time.

Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 15 April 2004 08:53 (sixteen years ago) link

one month passes...
I just acquired the new double disc DVD of The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly. Amazing! I planned on watching one hour of it tonight so I could do something else later, but I watched all 179 minutes of it. Fucking beautiful.

Gear! (Gear!), Tuesday, 25 May 2004 06:27 (sixteen years ago) link

nine months pass...
The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly gets better with each viewing. And what is often forgotten is that it contains one of cinema's more inexplicably haunting depictions of war. Aside from the battle between a couple of liquored-up armies fighting over a useless bridge, the war is nothing but retreating armies, dead bodies, military cemeteries, and prisoner-of-war camps.

What I didn't know was that Leone was actually depicting a very real part of the Civil War that took place in New Mexico. I always assumed that he was creating a surreal version of the war. Perhaps the scope of what occurred was implicitly larger in Leone's fiction, but it's based in truth.

Gear! (can Jung shill it, Mu?) (Gear!), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 07:31 (fifteen years ago) link

duck, you sucker! is a lot of fun.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 07:48 (fifteen years ago) link

Duck You Sucker might be my favorite of his. Well, no, nothing could top OUATITW. but Duck You Sucker is one hell of a romp. Coburn and Steiger are amazing.

Stormy Davis (diamond), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 07:54 (fifteen years ago) link

the whole thing maintains such a comical lightheartedness that I really wasn't prepared for the end.

Stormy Davis (diamond), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 07:58 (fifteen years ago) link

apparently leone was convinced that "duck, you sucker!" was a popular american catchphrase.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 09:20 (fifteen years ago) link

Leone > ultraviolent-phase Peckinpah

I need Ford, Hawks, Mann and Boetticher along with Leone, tho. "Johnny Guitar" too.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 16:41 (fifteen years ago) link

The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly gets better with each viewing.

It really does. The more I watch it, the more I am convinced that is my favorite movie.

Leon the Fatboy (Ex Leon), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 16:45 (fifteen years ago) link

I believe the battle scene was based on the battle of Valverde in New Mexico.

laurence kansas (lawrence kansas), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 16:50 (fifteen years ago) link

"Leone > ultraviolent-phase Peckinpah"

OTM, but I'd add Leone > EVERYONE ELSE.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 16:55 (fifteen years ago) link

Quentin Tarantino might very well be right when he says that TGTBATU is the best-directed film of all time.

Gear! (can Jung shill it, Mu?) (Gear!), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 18:02 (fifteen years ago) link

That's an interview soundbite, not an insight (plus I'm really sick of Tarantino today)... I really don't know how you compare whose "directing" is better. Leone vs Dreyer vs Murnau vs Todd Haynes? I'd rank Once Upon...West with TGTB&TU.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 18:07 (fifteen years ago) link

"today"

Gear! (can Jung shill it, Mu?) (Gear!), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 18:22 (fifteen years ago) link

Once Upon a Time In the West of course probably does deserve to be ranked there, and it's probably a more moving film, due in no small part to Morricone's score (less famous but superior to his TGTBATU one)

Gear! (can Jung shill it, Mu?) (Gear!), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 18:27 (fifteen years ago) link

They both probably have the two greatest beginnings ever, but the 30 minutes of dialogue free non-action in OUATITW is really very special. Also Bronson>>>Eastwood and Fonda (perhaps only in this case)>>>Van Cleef (of course Wallach>>>>>>>>>Robards and EVERYONE ELSE!)

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 18:33 (fifteen years ago) link

I think Robards' perf is his best on film that I've seen.

Wallach is perfect in the role, but he actually sucks in most other films (ie Magnificent 7, Godfather III).

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 18:36 (fifteen years ago) link

Yeah this was the part Wallach was born to play. It is one of Robards best performances though (up there with Melvin and Howard def.) I didn't mean it as a slight of him.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 18:38 (fifteen years ago) link

The title sequence is for The Good, The Bad and The Ugly is one of my favorite things ever (the rest of the movie is up there too!).

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 18:42 (fifteen years ago) link

Still have never seen The Good etc. in full (similarly Once Upon a Time in America), much as I love Morricone's music from those and other Leone efforts. Have caught lots of bits and pieces about the bridge, the final sequence, etc. which I did enjoy, though I'll be honest and say that Westerns in general (straight up, spaghetti, revisionist or otherwise) don't move me much -- not sure why, though I love Blazing Saddles so go figure. I remember being tickled to find out where the sampled shout title of Ministry's "You Know What You Are" comes from.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 18:44 (fifteen years ago) link

OUATITW is the movie that I show people who don't like Westerns in general. It doesn't make them like Westerns, but everyone loves that movie.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 18:47 (fifteen years ago) link

The final shot of OUATITW is remarkable on many, many levels. Primarily how in one camera move Leone shows the modern world ushering the old world out.

Gear! (can Jung shill it, Mu?) (Gear!), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 18:50 (fifteen years ago) link

why does mrs mcbain let frank do her?

charleston charge (chaki), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 19:00 (fifteen years ago) link

Cuz she thinks it might buy her life.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 19:03 (fifteen years ago) link

I think Frank has kidnapped her and she seduces him into not killing her, convincing him to let her auction off the ranch instead. It was never stated outright, but that's what I always figured.

Gear! (can Jung shill it, Mu?) (Gear!), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 19:04 (fifteen years ago) link

leone is totally one of those directors who i admire completely but who has an aesthetic that isn't completely my cup of tea. so none of his films really rank among my favorites although i'd never contest their greatness. i think the biggest draw for me is the morricone music, especially in OUATITW and duck, you sucker! ("sean sean sean, sean sean sean")

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 19:18 (fifteen years ago) link

what's with all these italians and their "out with the old, in with the new" tragedies? visconti and leone were both totally obsessed by this.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 19:19 (fifteen years ago) link

p.s. i think i like the weird homoerotic flashbacks in duck, you sucker!

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 19:19 (fifteen years ago) link

I always considered Fonda-Cardinale a de facto rape (precursor to the brutal De Niro-McGovern one in "America").

I guess if your nation was formerly the seat of empires and now changes governments annually, you'd dote on the past too. (plus Visconti was an aristo)

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 19:40 (fifteen years ago) link

im going to watch both One Upon a Time...'s right now thx to this thread!

charleston charge (chaki), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 19:44 (fifteen years ago) link

dude, that's going to take you all day

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 19:49 (fifteen years ago) link

im totally sick!

charleston charge (chaki), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 20:01 (fifteen years ago) link

(like sick, stuck in bed, feverish.. not like YAH MAN IM SICK IN THE HEAD ILL WATCH 3 HOUR MOVIES ALL DAY!)

charleston charge (chaki), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 20:02 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah, i watched the 47-hour* fanny and alexander last time i was stuck at home with a bad flu


*actually 6 hours, i think

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 20:11 (fifteen years ago) link

i loved leone and spaghetti westerns in general.

then i took a class about spaghetti westerns and italian horror in college. it didnt help that the class was four hours on thursday nights but most of the westerns would put me to sleep [morricone's music was a sweet lullaby somehow]. dario argento's horror movies were just so much more exciting to watch in class. it also ruined westerns to have to write lengthy papers breaking down their cultural significance while italian horror was much more sexual in nature...

still like leone but only when i have a whole afternoon free and plenty of popcorn.

jane (jane), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 21:13 (fifteen years ago) link

The non-Leone spaghetti westerns are unfortunately not so good (The Grand Duel is pretty good, Django is totally average and the I've seen a few more that were mostly sub-even those.)

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 21:17 (fifteen years ago) link

loved django! i guess i like the sillier ones more.

jane (jane), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 22:07 (fifteen years ago) link

Yesterday Criterion shared this photo of Bresson and Leone taken in Venice in '72

http://scontent-a-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/1374936_10153346893555565_1024260217_n.jpg

A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 26 September 2013 19:21 (six years ago) link

amazing pic! cld def fit on the 'people who you wldn't expect to be photogged together' thread.

i like the way bresson is always such a dandy!

Ward Fowler, Thursday, 26 September 2013 19:27 (six years ago) link

five years pass...

for all the talk about everything else associated with The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly, it's hardly ever noted how Eastwood gives such a good performance, and he's so understated throughout that it's hard to miss next to Wallach and Van Cleef and the more colorful supporting turns. And he's very good with the low-key comedy -- in particular his delivery of this line kills me every single time:

Tuco: Even when Judas hanged himself there was a storm.

Blondie: That *could* be cannon fire.

omar little, Thursday, 11 October 2018 16:12 (one year ago) link

one year passes...

Was surprised to be quite moved by Fistful Of Dynamite/Duck You Sucker. Wonderful film.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 27 December 2019 18:36 (six months ago) link

The music helps.

Soup on my lanyard (Tom D.), Friday, 27 December 2019 18:49 (six months ago) link

I'm told that many versions of it were butchered and the big relationship reveal at the end was cut, which is a big change. Apparently the current UK release is our first fully uncut one.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 27 December 2019 23:29 (six months ago) link

I don't know, I've seen various different cuts of this film over the years but, curiously, the longer cuts I've seen are more confusing and make less sense than the shorter ones.

Soup on my lanyard (Tom D.), Saturday, 28 December 2019 00:18 (six months ago) link

I really liked the ending, which features Coburn's best smile in the film. Definitely makes the film better.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 29 December 2019 20:04 (six months ago) link

five months pass...

A Fistful of Dollars was pretty good!

Dan S, Tuesday, 23 June 2020 04:14 (two weeks ago) link

Rewatched Once Upon a Time in the West and think it's my favorite now. I could watch Fonda and Bronson stare at each other all day. Which I guess is what I did.

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 23 June 2020 04:50 (two weeks ago) link

Does bug me how Bronson doesn't even feign blowing while playing the harmonica. Seems intentional tho?

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 23 June 2020 04:52 (two weeks ago) link

Harmonica : The reward for this man is 5000 dollars, is that right?

Cheyenne : Judas was content for 4970 dollars less.

Harmonica : There were no dollars in them days.

Cheyenne : But sons of bitches... yeah.

Daniel_Rf, Tuesday, 23 June 2020 09:57 (two weeks ago) link

OUATITW German title: Play Me The Song Of Death

Daniel_Rf, Tuesday, 23 June 2020 09:59 (two weeks ago) link

I recently rewatched The Good, the Bad and the Ugly for the umpteenth time, only this time I looked up some of the making-of. Apparently Wallach's classic scene at the gun shop was mostly improvised! I also saw this incredible fan video comparing filming locations:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjDBUL_zhqs

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 23 June 2020 13:47 (two weeks ago) link

I hate knowing that almost nothing was actually filmed in the West, though the locales are pretty good facsimile obv. Likewise kinda bugs me when Ford would literally plant a few saguaro in Monument Valley shots when they don't grow there naturally. That's movies for ya tho eh.

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 23 June 2020 15:38 (two weeks ago) link

lol that's kind of awesome that you didn't know his movies were made in Italy and Spain!

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 23 June 2020 15:46 (two weeks ago) link

no I knew that. and I saw that video a couple weeks ago, it's p cool.

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 23 June 2020 15:57 (two weeks ago) link

on one of the dvd commentaries they mention how you can tell they're not US horses based on their gait

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 23 June 2020 15:59 (two weeks ago) link

for me it's the flora that makes it obvious it's not in the Americas

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 23 June 2020 16:00 (two weeks ago) link

It's actually one of my favorite facets of those films. there's nothing like the over familiar monument valley to take you out of them. they're all vaguely familiar but not specific.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 23 June 2020 16:05 (two weeks ago) link

I can see that. And mon valley def overused to point where it just looks like a generic set.

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 23 June 2020 16:11 (two weeks ago) link

The Good, the Bad and the Ugly is a fantastic film

Dan S, Saturday, 27 June 2020 00:21 (two weeks ago) link

Too bad the sequel with Eli Wallach's character Tuco in the lead role never happened. That's one of my all time favorite movie characters.

earlnash, Saturday, 27 June 2020 00:49 (two weeks ago) link

The Rod Steiger character in "Fistful of Duck You Sucker" pretty much is Tuco.

Future England Captain (Tom D.), Saturday, 27 June 2020 00:51 (two weeks ago) link

Wallach's Tuco was a great character. I liked the unfamiliar landscapes. Eastwood has always been confident but I like that he seemed so comfortable in this role. The music was as iconic as I expected

Dan S, Saturday, 27 June 2020 01:34 (two weeks ago) link

I need to watch the 1st 2 in the trilogy again but I think my favorite is Few Dollars More. Love how they flesh out the villian's character, and they actor does a great job. And I prefer Van Cleef as a vengeful hero to a sadistic baddie. His unique face gets mentioned a lot as his appeal but man that voice is incredible too.

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Saturday, 27 June 2020 03:36 (two weeks ago) link

Watching "My Name is Nobody". Majority of it shot in US but I bet none of the landscapes look familiar even to those who've seen a lot of westerns.

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Sunday, 28 June 2020 04:52 (two weeks ago) link

(Not directed by Leone. Based on an "idea" of his, w a Morricone score)

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Sunday, 28 June 2020 04:59 (two weeks ago) link

Sergio that's not Sergio. This movie is a trip and the theme song is an all time WTF?.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j46FDG8UeXw

earlnash, Sunday, 28 June 2020 12:05 (two weeks ago) link

The Fall should have covered 'Captain Apache', that would have been excellent.

earlnash, Sunday, 28 June 2020 12:06 (two weeks ago) link

Never heard of that one! There's some channels over here that show spaghetti westerns all the time, though usually really early in the morning, and they're generally pretty bad but there's the occasional good one.

Future England Captain (Tom D.), Sunday, 28 June 2020 12:15 (two weeks ago) link

From the wiki for "Captain Apache":

The vocals of the opening and credits song were performed by Van Cleef.

!!!

My fave campy Ennio deep cut is this one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewtB8GPqWLw

It's from a movie called "Duello new Texas," or "Dual at Red Sands." apparently the first western with a Morricone score.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 28 June 2020 13:58 (two weeks ago) link

Ugh, autocorrect. The movie was called "Duello nel Texas," aka "Gunfight at Red Sands."

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 28 June 2020 13:59 (two weeks ago) link

Was just looking around on wiki and realized how few non-Leone spaghetti westerns I've actually seen. I've seen, say, A Bullet for the General, and My Name is Nobody, but do any/many more of them approach the mastery and majesty of Leone?

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 28 June 2020 14:06 (two weeks ago) link

Rick Dalton's spaghettis are supposed to be great.

"...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 28 June 2020 15:24 (two weeks ago) link

I've seen dozens of spaghetti westerns so I'll try to answer. The first four Leones are undeniable and there's a reason they each topped the Italian box office in their respective years. I'd maintain there are a good handful (a fistful?) of non-Leones that are great in their own way and not too imitative of him - depending on taste, perhaps a bit more than a handful.

My non-Leone POX would look something like this (in chronological order):

A Pistol for Ringo
The Return of Ringo
Django
The Ugly Ones (aka The Bounty Killer)
A Bullet for the General
The Big Gundown
The Great Silence
Cemetery Without Crosses
Tepepa
The Price of Power

Josefa, Sunday, 28 June 2020 15:34 (two weeks ago) link

I've seen a lot of them but they were usually released under a dozen different titles so it's difficult to distinguish them. One of the best is the one with Jean-Louis Trintingnant that's set in winter, The Big Silence, I think? Also the first (or second?) Django with Franco Nero.. there's dozens of films with Django in the title though. A particularly memorable one, I think called Requiescant, has Pasolini on it, playing a priest

Future England Captain (Tom D.), Sunday, 28 June 2020 15:36 (two weeks ago) link

... The Great Silence (xp)

Future England Captain (Tom D.), Sunday, 28 June 2020 15:36 (two weeks ago) link

Saw quite an entertaining one the other day with Klaus Kinski as the unluckiest gambler in the west - possibly one of the Sartana (sp?) films.

Future England Captain (Tom D.), Sunday, 28 June 2020 15:41 (two weeks ago) link

Requiescant is great, good call

Josefa, Sunday, 28 June 2020 15:41 (two weeks ago) link

Thanks! How far do a lot of these veer from style into exploitation film grit and grime, sex and violence qua sex and violence? I'd like to avoid that, if possible.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 28 June 2020 15:46 (two weeks ago) link

The ones I mentioned all have more going on than gross-out/shock elements. Most have some sort of political angle. Fwiw spaghettis tend to downplay sex (as opposed to sexual assault, which may be what you mean)

Josefa, Sunday, 28 June 2020 15:58 (two weeks ago) link

My Name is Nobody score sounds like a Morricone compilation that couldn't get the rights to the actual original compositions

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Sunday, 28 June 2020 16:00 (two weeks ago) link

xpost Yeah, sexual assault (or its threat) is pretty prevalent even in stuff like "Once Upon a Time in the West" and "For a Few Dollars More," but I never got the feeling they were playing for shock, just legit gross man menace. A la Mann's "Man of the West," which goes pretty far down that road for 1958 - Jack Lord's character is like a spaghetti western villain prototype - but which is just too old fashioned to make the impact that the sweaty, dirty spaghetti stuff does, imo. The women in these movies are often so sad, tired and tragic, stuck in this macho world that doesn't value them as much more than servants or playthings.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 28 June 2020 16:40 (two weeks ago) link

The most objectionable spaghetti I've seen in terms of ugliness and base pandering is Blindman (1971)

Josefa, Sunday, 28 June 2020 16:51 (two weeks ago) link

Violence and misogyny are pretty much a constant.

Future England Captain (Tom D.), Sunday, 28 June 2020 16:55 (two weeks ago) link

For sure (see also: most movies with guns). But Leone offers a real sense of poetry and vision that helps escape the gravitational pull of that particular gutter. A lot of action movies, esp. low budget action movies of that era, struggle to pull that off.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 28 June 2020 17:01 (two weeks ago) link

The rape of the rich white woman at the beginning of duck you sucker is treated so casually

(I quite liked the film by the end - some amazing scenes - but it was a drag in places and rod steiger is fucking terrible as the annoying caricature mexican)

covid coronenberg (wins), Sunday, 28 June 2020 17:05 (two weeks ago) link

His accent is abysmal and you need a tolerance for his customary scenery chewing, which I've got tbh.

Future England Captain (Tom D.), Sunday, 28 June 2020 17:33 (two weeks ago) link

He’s so one-note and shouty, I just wanted him to fuck off. Didn’t have this reaction to wallach

covid coronenberg (wins), Sunday, 28 June 2020 17:53 (two weeks ago) link


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