Cary Grant

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At long last he time has come for Jerry the Nipper to start a thread about Archie Leach. Tonight I cracked open my Cary Grant boxset and watched: 'My Favourite Wife'. What a fantastic film - Grant and Dunne reprising their relationship from 'The Awful Truth', with even more laffs... and more poignancy.

I was moved to compile my favourite CG moments thusly (no partic. order, and I'd like this to build like an ILM monstrosity):

1: "Oh, I don't know I just went GAY allovasudden!" ('Bringing up Baby')
2: "Oh she's making all this up out of motion pictures" (BuB)
3: The trapeze act with Hepburn ('Holiday')
4: "We've been in bigger trouble than this before, haven't we Hildy?" ('His Girl Friday')
5: The moment when he persuades the bandleader to play the same song again in the ballroom with Ralph and Irene. ('The Awful Truth')

Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Friday, 26 March 2004 22:15 (twenty years ago) link

To be continued....

Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Friday, 26 March 2004 22:15 (twenty years ago) link

The moment when he stops himself punching Katherine Hepburn at the start of The Philadelphia Story and shoves her face instead.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Friday, 26 March 2004 22:21 (twenty years ago) link

Martin's contribution is no. 6.

7: 'Only Angels have Wings': the Peanut Song scene.

Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Friday, 26 March 2004 22:26 (twenty years ago) link

8: 'The Talk of the Town': the breakfast scene.

Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Friday, 26 March 2004 22:30 (twenty years ago) link

9. the auction in NBNW

metfigga (metfigga), Friday, 26 March 2004 22:31 (twenty years ago) link

if you have Sky, My Favourite Wife is on tomorrow afternoon on Sky Cinema 2.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Friday, 26 March 2004 22:32 (twenty years ago) link

on the balcony with ingrid bergman in 'notorious' duh

amateur!st (amateurist), Friday, 26 March 2004 22:40 (twenty years ago) link

i like him with a cockney accent in 'sylvia scarlett' too

amateur!st (amateurist), Friday, 26 March 2004 22:40 (twenty years ago) link

Am's are nos. 10 & 11

12. From 'MFW': the scene where CG is haunted in his office by the thought of Steve on the diving board.

Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Friday, 26 March 2004 22:43 (twenty years ago) link

god they dont make movie stars like they used to

amateur!st (amateurist), Friday, 26 March 2004 22:45 (twenty years ago) link

13: The sleeper compartment kiss between CG and EMS (NbNW).

Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Friday, 26 March 2004 22:47 (twenty years ago) link

That diving board scene is magnificent.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Friday, 26 March 2004 22:53 (twenty years ago) link

my favorite actor ever!

14. bringing the glass of milk to joan fontaine in "suspicion."
15. "do you know what's wrong with you?" "what?" "absolutely nothing." ("charade")

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Friday, 26 March 2004 23:34 (twenty years ago) link

16. When he inspired "Cary Grant's Wedding" by the Fall.
17. When he took acid.

NA (Nick A.), Friday, 26 March 2004 23:43 (twenty years ago) link

18. Any exchange with Myrna Loy in Mr. Blandings Builds His Dream House.
19. Or with Ann Sheridan in I Was A Male War Bride

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Saturday, 27 March 2004 03:03 (twenty years ago) link

20. The entire nightclub scene in The Bachelor and the Bobby-Soxer with the constant singing of "Happy Birthday".

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Saturday, 27 March 2004 03:09 (twenty years ago) link

Yes I'm going to be "that guy" and say: when he allowed a camera into his "bachelor pad" to capture on film his "unique friendship" with Randolph Scott.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Saturday, 27 March 2004 07:45 (twenty years ago) link

In I Was A Male War Bride, I particularly like the subtle physical comedy of him trying to get comfortable in a chair for a night - where he thinks he gets it, then finds an arm sticking out oddly.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Saturday, 27 March 2004 08:28 (twenty years ago) link

21. The swimming scene in "To Catch a Thief" where he swallows water and starts laughing, but carries on with the scene with classic carygrantarian style

Neil Willett (Neil Willett), Saturday, 27 March 2004 09:36 (twenty years ago) link

i love only angels have wings but i always thought it seemed more like a bogart role.

s1ocki (slutsky), Saturday, 27 March 2004 16:01 (twenty years ago) link

22. Charade: "How about making me vice president in charge of cheering you up?"
23. North by Northwest "I'm an advertising man, not a red herring. I've got a job, a secretary, a mother, two ex-wives and several bartenders that depend upon me, and I don't intend to disappoint them all by getting myself 'slightly' killed."

24. And of course, from Notorious:

Ingrid Bergman: My car is outside.
Cary Grant: Naturally.

Chuck Tatum (Chuck Tatum), Saturday, 27 March 2004 16:16 (twenty years ago) link

The part in The Bachelor and the Bobbysoxer whre his is acting like a teenager
AND
The part in An Affair to Remember when he goes to see Debra Kerr at the end.

Ellen Lane (Ellen Lane), Saturday, 27 March 2004 16:51 (twenty years ago) link

PENIS!!!

johnny fitz (johnny fitz), Saturday, 27 March 2004 16:51 (twenty years ago) link

all of "affair to remember" features a sublime performance by grant

amateur!st (amateurist), Saturday, 27 March 2004 21:38 (twenty years ago) link

four weeks pass...
On Friday I watched the third film in the Grant boxset: 'Indiscreet'. Typically Stanley Donen lush depiction of London, swelling strings around every soundtrack corner, Grant and - ugh - Bergman playing it slightly too straight. But then everything takes a Grantian turn - (a Cavellian turn? It's another contender for the Comedy of Remarriage genre that Cavell proposes in 'Pursuits of Happiness') when it turns out that Cary is just pretending to be married, because he is a lifelong playboy.

25: Cary screwballing for all he's worth, dancing like the acrobat he started out as, at a lavish ball at the Royal Naval College in Greenwich!

(I now only have 'Operation Petticoat' left on the boxset, and I don't have high hopes for it. It co-stars Tony Curtis, for pity's sake! Why isn't 'I was a male war bride' on DVD yet?)

Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Sunday, 25 April 2004 09:45 (twenty years ago) link

Is there anybody out there who doesn't like Cary Grant? Never met such a creature myself. What's wrong with Tony Curtis?

Dadaismus (Dada), Sunday, 25 April 2004 09:56 (twenty years ago) link

Even I like Cary Grant!

cozen (Cozen), Sunday, 25 April 2004 09:59 (twenty years ago) link

i never quite understood that "comedy of remarriage" thing that cavell returns to so often. yes, there was a spate of comedies about remarriage for a time (not THAT many, but enough) but cavell starts positing these genre "rules" and draws a few dubious conclusions from that.

i have never met anyone who does not like cary grant.

amateur!st (amateurist), Sunday, 25 April 2004 11:47 (twenty years ago) link

Operation Petticoat is fun but disposable, Steve - Curtis was always good, except perhaps when intoning "Yonda lies da castle of my fodda!", but even that is still funny.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 25 April 2004 11:47 (twenty years ago) link

i don't like tony curtis either but i'm not sure why. Maybe cos he's smarmy and not a good actor.

i only sort-of like cary grant.

jed_ (jed), Sunday, 25 April 2004 11:51 (twenty years ago) link

also read a great essay recently on the pacing of "his girl friday", highly recommended:

http://www.findarticles.com/cf_dls/m2342/3_32/55082381/p1/article.jhtml

amateur!st (amateurist), Sunday, 25 April 2004 11:52 (twenty years ago) link

tony curtis is a very good actor within a certain range

amateur!st (amateurist), Sunday, 25 April 2004 11:52 (twenty years ago) link

Or movie. "Sweet Small of Success" rules all noir ever nearly

Mr Mime (Andrew Thames), Sunday, 25 April 2004 12:29 (twenty years ago) link

sweet smell is amazing, and yeah curtis can be fantastic. i'm not so sure his range is THAT limited; look at sweet smell vs some like it hot for instance.

also i said this on another thread but his interview on the some like it hot dvd is a must-see

s1ocki (slutsky), Sunday, 25 April 2004 14:59 (twenty years ago) link

Another great Grant moment: His double-, triple-, quadruple-take on finding the body in the windowseat in Arsenic and Old Lace.

spittle (spittle), Sunday, 25 April 2004 15:21 (twenty years ago) link

hey jerry, what's with the "ugh" re: bergman?

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Sunday, 25 April 2004 15:32 (twenty years ago) link

Oh not much - I just don't want to see her in a romantic comedy.

Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Sunday, 25 April 2004 15:59 (twenty years ago) link

"I'm an expedition." - Gunga Din

When he's telling Hildy that "they'll build statues of you in the park" and then he does his impression of a statue.

Michael White (Hereward), Sunday, 25 April 2004 18:00 (twenty years ago) link

This thread is reminding me how I keep meaning to pick up Criterion's new edition of Charade.

El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Sunday, 25 April 2004 18:52 (twenty years ago) link

make sure you stay away from that j demme remake!

s1ocki (slutsky), Sunday, 25 April 2004 21:24 (twenty years ago) link

Of course. I mean, Marky Mark?!?!?! Demme messed this up so badly I don't even want to think about what a cackfest The Manchurian Candidate will be.

El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Sunday, 25 April 2004 21:33 (twenty years ago) link

big sigh!

s1ocki (slutsky), Sunday, 25 April 2004 21:37 (twenty years ago) link

'His Girl Friday' is my favourite film....evah. I watched it again recentlyand was in raptures. It makes me feel really happy...

"excuse me madame! are you referring to me?" with full hand gestures. his whole performance is impeccable tho...

Robert Lumsden (Wallace), Sunday, 25 April 2004 21:41 (twenty years ago) link

has anybody else felt slightly disappointed on watching charade? it's been said to be the best hitchcock not by hitchcock, but i can't come close to agreeing. it doesn't have a drop of the charm that percolates from every frame of friday or baby, and it's so implausible and silly it's not watchable as thriller. what gives?

The Second Drummer Drowned (Atila the Honeybun), Monday, 26 April 2004 01:23 (nineteen years ago) link

i'm actually not nuts about it myself.

s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 26 April 2004 03:56 (nineteen years ago) link

26. The bit where he says 'you've led me on a-very-merry-chase-a-very-merry-chase-in... deed'

Autumn Almanac (Autumn Almanac), Monday, 26 April 2004 04:09 (nineteen years ago) link

i don't think charade is as good as an ACTUAL hitchcock film - it doesn't have the depth of north by northwest and it's not as good as the great hawks comedies you mention (but almost nothing is) - but i like the way it's perched just about perfectly between being a thriller and a romantic comedy. the tense moments work as well as the light moments - that's hard to pull off.

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Monday, 26 April 2004 05:10 (nineteen years ago) link

What is the one with the handsprings and Hepburn? And oh my God "Gunga Din"

Speedy (Speedy Gonzalas), Monday, 26 April 2004 06:33 (nineteen years ago) link

Meant to watch this for New Years, got to it a day late. Joke that made me laugh the hardest was Edward Everett Horton wandering the halls, saying “It seems to have been some sort of residence at one time...”

nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Sunday, 3 January 2021 04:52 (three years ago) link

saw Awful Truth for the first time, man it made me laugh so hard so many times, Grant & Dunne are fantastic

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 3 January 2021 05:08 (three years ago) link

I watched TO CATCH A THIEF last night. Grant is much older, perhaps even too old for the role - but still slim and noticeably agile, which the whole premise of the cat burglar requires.

A bit of a daft film, much lighter than I'd expect from Hitchcock - as though he made 'light entertainments' as well as chillers and thrillers? Some fine duelling, bantering dialogue, sometimes risqué.

the pinefox, Sunday, 3 January 2021 11:01 (three years ago) link

Some interesting discussion about this film in the archives, especially from Ward Fowler.

Dog Heavy Manners (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 3 January 2021 16:10 (three years ago) link

Speaking of Grant's age, something from Scott Eyman's bio stuck with me - to paraphrase, Grant looked about 45 for 25 years; then he looked about 60 for his last 20 years.

Josefa, Sunday, 3 January 2021 16:55 (three years ago) link

Scott Eyman wrote a Cary Grant bio?

Dog Heavy Manners (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 3 January 2021 17:01 (three years ago) link

yep! Rather good too.

Patriotic Goiter (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 3 January 2021 17:11 (three years ago) link

Yes, I'm reading it at the moment. It got a good writeup in the LRB recently, so I treated myself for Christmas.

trishyb, Sunday, 3 January 2021 17:17 (three years ago) link

Cool. I liked The Speed of Sound: Hollywood and the Talkie Revolution 1926-1930 a lot, have his John Wayne and Louis B. Mayer books but haven't read properly/pvmic

Dog Heavy Manners (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 3 January 2021 17:29 (three years ago) link

Actually my current screenname is based on something in his John Wayne book.

Dog Heavy Manners (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 3 January 2021 19:07 (three years ago) link

i am reading the Eyman bio atm too!

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 3 January 2021 19:07 (three years ago) link

Book club! Oh wait.

Dog Heavy Manners (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 3 January 2021 19:08 (three years ago) link

He also wrote a book about R.J. Wagner, which seems to me, I dunno, possibly problematic.

Dog Heavy Manners (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 3 January 2021 19:09 (three years ago) link

He actually wrote two books with R.J. Wagner. I think Eyman alludes to their friendship in a recent episode of the "Maltin on Movies" podcast (can't remember exactly what he says), which mainly deals with the Grant bio for those interested.

Josefa, Sunday, 3 January 2021 20:43 (three years ago) link

This review is kind of funny: https://www.chicagotribune.com/entertainment/books/chi-robert-wagner-you-must-remember-this-20140228-story.html
The Wapo was more charitable.

Dog Heavy Manners (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 3 January 2021 22:06 (three years ago) link

one month passes...

Holiday is the best.

We are watching Holiday right now, and are a bit freaked out by the fact that it seems to be Christmas, and yet there is not a single shred of a Christmas decoration anywhere in the Seton house. It's so odd.

trishyb, Saturday, 13 February 2021 22:05 (three years ago) link

I noticed that! The opening scenes must be taking place more or less on Christmas, and yet there's no indication that anyone in the movie celebrates it; it seems like all the Setons do for Christmas is go to church.

Lily Dale, Saturday, 13 February 2021 22:11 (three years ago) link

Few, was worried this was going to be an RIP thread. Hang in there, Cary!

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 13 February 2021 22:12 (three years ago) link

Phew, lol

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 13 February 2021 22:12 (three years ago) link

Working my way there slowly, roughly in order. Have now seen 13 of the 16 films he made between 1932 and 1933. He's just such a delightful presence all the time. He even brings it in a full (and terrifying) Mock Turtle costume.

The Mandolinrainian (Old Lunch), Saturday, 13 February 2021 22:29 (three years ago) link

The opening scenes must be taking place more or less on Christmas,

I think it's actually Christmas Day, going by some things they say about days of the week. It's so weird.

trishyb, Saturday, 13 February 2021 22:29 (three years ago) link

My wife and I saw "I Was a Male War Bride" last week on DVD. Cary Grant was perfectly fine in it as he usually was in a comedy role. But he was just about the only good thing in it.

The plot was sub-basic sitcom. Howard Hawks and Grant were wasted on this film. Ann Sheridan was only just adequate. But it would have taken greater genius than those three possessed to make this into more than a plodding, predictable rehash of some very tired material.

Compromise isn't a principle, it's a method (Aimless), Sunday, 14 February 2021 04:21 (three years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Scott Eyman's biography is even better than I dared hope.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 5 March 2021 15:09 (three years ago) link

Yeah, it was so good that I'm thinking of getting the John Wayne one even though I don't care one bit about John Wayne.

trishyb, Friday, 5 March 2021 15:43 (three years ago) link

eight months pass...

just watched The Bishop's Wife, a perfectly serviceable Cary Grant Charm Delivery Vehicle that i never need to see again. i was intrigued by this bit in the wikipedia entry: "the film didn't do very well at the box office at first. Market research showed that moviegoers avoided the film because they thought it was religious. So, Goldwyn decided to re-title it Cary and the Bishop's Wife for some US markets".

i'm trying & failing to think of other movie titles that include the IRL name of the lead actor... other than abbot & costello, are there any other examples of this strange phenomenon?

nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Tuesday, 30 November 2021 04:14 (two years ago) link

Being John Malkovich obv

There's a lot of old timey comedians who would do this because their stage name would also be the name of the character - Mexican comedian Cantinflas, George Formby.

Daniel_Rf, Tuesday, 30 November 2021 10:50 (two years ago) link

The Bishop's Wife is just okay.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 30 November 2021 11:08 (two years ago) link

i'm trying & failing to think of other movie titles that include the IRL name of the lead actor... other than abbot & costello, are there any other examples of this strange phenomenon?

I can't (things like JCVD and Being John Malkovich don't really count as the actors are actually characters in the films) and I honestly think it's only convention and squeamishness that prevents it. After all, it's why a good number of people go to see a film if it's not part of a franchise (OK, that's an increasingly small number of films), so marketing could save themselves a lot of work by just calling a film Robert Pattinson's Tenet or whatever.

Alba, Tuesday, 30 November 2021 11:54 (two years ago) link

Cheech and Chongs Up In Smoke, etc

Ste, Tuesday, 30 November 2021 11:58 (two years ago) link

I can't (things like JCVD and Being John Malkovich don't really count as the actors are actually characters in the films)

That kicks out Abbott and Costello too tho. But as far as that goes, the Portuguese title for one Jackie Chan film (Police Story 2 I think?) is Jackie Chan Is The Protagonist.

Daniel_Rf, Tuesday, 30 November 2021 12:00 (two years ago) link

ha, I was just wondering if a Chan film was one.

Ste, Tuesday, 30 November 2021 12:01 (two years ago) link

Bela Lugosi Meets a Brooklyn Gorilla
Abbott and Costello Meet the Killer, Boris Karloff
(you got a threefer right there)

Rep. Cobra Commander (R-TX) (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 30 November 2021 12:13 (two years ago) link

Abbott and Costello Meet the Killer, Boris Karloff

Particularly keen on this formulation being employed more often

The Last Temptation of Christ, Willem Dafoe
The English Patient, Ralph Fiennes
Three Men – Tom Selleck, Steve Guttenberg and Ted Danson – and a Baby 
An Officer and a Gentleman, both Richard Gere perhaps

Alba, Tuesday, 30 November 2021 12:58 (two years ago) link

its hilarious to me that karloff is personally identified as a murderer. hard to imagine a modern equivalent: The Green Room Attacked By A Nazi, Patrick Stewart

nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Tuesday, 30 November 2021 13:39 (two years ago) link

What's Eating Gilbert Grape, Johnny Depp? Leonardo DiCaprio

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Tuesday, 30 November 2021 15:14 (two years ago) link

I honestly think it's only convention and squeamishness that prevents it

Yeah, though it's always been accepted in tv.

Kim Kimberly, Tuesday, 30 November 2021 17:05 (two years ago) link

moviegoers avoided the film because they thought it was religious

In 1947 ... will wonders never cease.

Milm & Foovies (Eric H.), Tuesday, 30 November 2021 17:24 (two years ago) link

His name could almost be City Guess if you squinted

Christmas in Davenport (cherry blossom), Tuesday, 30 November 2021 17:29 (two years ago) link

Movie Titles with the Star’s Name in Them

(Though most are actors playing characters that have their name.)

Kim Kimberly, Tuesday, 30 November 2021 17:41 (two years ago) link

ha thats awesome, its just what i need, thanks for posting that

nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Tuesday, 30 November 2021 23:12 (two years ago) link

There's also the weird example of Ruggles of Red Gap (1935) in which actor Charlie Ruggles is one of the principal cast but does not play "Ruggles." What were the odds.

Josefa, Tuesday, 30 November 2021 23:27 (two years ago) link

the Portuguese title for one Jackie Chan film (Police Story 2 I think?) is Jackie Chan Is The Protagonist.

― Daniel_Rf, Tuesday, November 30, 2021 6:00 AM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

I think there was a Jackie Chan movie marketed in the U.S. as Jackie Chan's First Strike also. Not quite as good as Jackie Chan is the Protagonist, though.

JRN, Wednesday, 1 December 2021 15:56 (two years ago) link

JRN i can confirm that bc i actually watched it last night, lol

nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Wednesday, 1 December 2021 16:15 (two years ago) link

How was it? I haven't seen it since whenever it came out in theaters here.

JRN, Wednesday, 1 December 2021 16:38 (two years ago) link

i would say just watch the highlights on youtube, but the whole thing is only like 75 minutes. scene where he fights a gang using an a-frame ladder is a career highlight. also kills a guy using spiny sea urchins, which i believe is a cinematic first.

nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Wednesday, 1 December 2021 17:03 (two years ago) link

one year passes...

Lateraling over here from watching Jean Arthur in Easy Living on the Sturges thread (actually there are more than one) to rewatching The Talk of the Town. Ronald Colman is kind of a dud which makes this not quite up to its close silbing The More the Merrier but it is still nearly as good. Cary is very watchable, even with his Magwitch limp.

And Your Borad Can Zing (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 5 February 2023 15:55 (one year ago) link

Jean Arthur apparently complained about Cary Grant upstaging her with his mugging which of course she would. She is superb in this, hitting all her notes, including one in particular involving eggs, doing a little hair-involved improv in the mirror in another bit. Haters need not watch.

And Your Borad Can Zing (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 5 February 2023 15:58 (one year ago) link

Speaking of Jean's hair, need to travel back to the other thread. Ta-ta!

And Your Borad Can Zing (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 5 February 2023 15:59 (one year ago) link

Been working my way through the Indicator Mae West box and Cary really brought out the best in her.

Hello I'm shitty gatsworth (aldo), Sunday, 5 February 2023 23:18 (one year ago) link


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